Re: [H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Eli Allen wrote: Its not that Time Warner came up with the solution, its that the FCC forced CableLabs to have a solution avalible. The problem with tunning adaptors is they don't always work, partially because its not that reliable in how it communicates to the head end but also because they tell the headend if its a automated recording which means the headend doesn't have to honor the request. Tivo would rather have a tcp upstream communication http://www.scribd.com/doc/24455769/Tivo-s-Response-to-FCC-National-Broadband-Plan I Agree, Tivo would definitely prefer to have no additional box. I have not run into any issues with my Tuning adaptor (Other than the install snafu of them giving me a broken cable card which was resolved). It isn't a perfect solution, but is one that makes switched digital work for me. Christopher Fisk -- Fry: Michelle, I don't regret this, but I both rue and lament it.
Re: [H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Scott Sipe wrote: Devices have had this ability for years. My ReplayTV (early competitor to Tivo, probably got it around 1998-1999 and it still works! SDTV only, but it automatically skips commercials!) has an Infrared controller--a wire which plugins into the ReplayTV and then you tape one end over the front of the DVR...then pick the type of the DVR and it (hopefully) knows how to change the channel. Slingplayer has the exact same thing. Yes, but you need to keep your cable company box instead of replacing it with the TiVo. That is how the series 2 TiVo worked for me. The series 3 has the ability to plug in cable cards and to *BE* the cable box. The only thing is switched digital doesn't work without a tuning adaptor. Christopher Fisk -- Fry: Michelle, I don't regret this, but I both rue and lament it.
Re: [H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
On Apr 16, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Christopher Fisk wrote: > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > >> Most DVRs have tuners built in...either a cable card or these new things (I >> can't recall their name)...but they only let is the channel you're watching >> so bandwidth is saveda DVR is always tuned to some channel, so it will >> be watching...but they had better let in at least two channels or it will be >> an effective downgrade for people with dual tuners. > > The cable company DVR's support this, but not ones you purchase or make > yourself. > > You'll need a Tuning Adaptor, and you'll need to have it work with whatever > DVR you use. > > In my case they have a Tuning Adaptor (No charge at all) that was provided to > get my Tivo to work. > > I don't know if it would work with a MythTV setup or similar. Devices have had this ability for years. My ReplayTV (early competitor to Tivo, probably got it around 1998-1999 and it still works! SDTV only, but it automatically skips commercials!) has an Infrared controller--a wire which plugins into the ReplayTV and then you tape one end over the front of the DVR...then pick the type of the DVR and it (hopefully) knows how to change the channel. Slingplayer has the exact same thing. Scott
Re: [H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
Its not that Time Warner came up with the solution, its that the FCC forced CableLabs to have a solution avalible. The problem with tunning adaptors is they don't always work, partially because its not that reliable in how it communicates to the head end but also because they tell the headend if its a automated recording which means the headend doesn't have to honor the request. Tivo would rather have a tcp upstream communication http://www.scribd.com/doc/24455769/Tivo-s-Response-to-FCC-National-Broadband-Plan On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Christopher Fisk wrote: > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Rick Glazier wrote: > >> That begs the question... I guess a DVR does NOT count as watching? >> Is that because it may NOT go through the main "set-top" control box? >> >> I have to ask, I have no Cable... > > Time Warner in my area has Switched Digital, it is actually a very good > tech. Saves bandwidth for only what is being watched in your area. > > Works fine with my Tivo, I had to get a (free) box that plugs in via USB to > my TiVo to actually change channels, but can record 2 programs at once with > it. > > I am not against the tech, it is a good solution to a real problem, and Time > Warner came up with a solution to get it working with Tivo, can't complain > about that. > > > Christopher Fisk > -- > "We must have the attitude that every child in America, regardless of where > they're raised or how they're born, can learn." > George W. Bush, April 18, 2001 >
Re: [H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Most DVRs have tuners built in...either a cable card or these new things (I can't recall their name)...but they only let is the channel you're watching so bandwidth is saveda DVR is always tuned to some channel, so it will be watching...but they had better let in at least two channels or it will be an effective downgrade for people with dual tuners. The cable company DVR's support this, but not ones you purchase or make yourself. You'll need a Tuning Adaptor, and you'll need to have it work with whatever DVR you use. In my case they have a Tuning Adaptor (No charge at all) that was provided to get my Tivo to work. I don't know if it would work with a MythTV setup or similar. Christopher Fisk -- "We must have the attitude that every child in America, regardless of where they're raised or how they're born, can learn." George W. Bush, April 18, 2001
Re: [H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Rick Glazier wrote: That begs the question... I guess a DVR does NOT count as watching? Is that because it may NOT go through the main "set-top" control box? I have to ask, I have no Cable... Time Warner in my area has Switched Digital, it is actually a very good tech. Saves bandwidth for only what is being watched in your area. Works fine with my Tivo, I had to get a (free) box that plugs in via USB to my TiVo to actually change channels, but can record 2 programs at once with it. I am not against the tech, it is a good solution to a real problem, and Time Warner came up with a solution to get it working with Tivo, can't complain about that. Christopher Fisk -- "We must have the attitude that every child in America, regardless of where they're raised or how they're born, can learn." George W. Bush, April 18, 2001
Re: [H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
Most DVRs have tuners built in...either a cable card or these new things (I can't recall their name)...but they only let is the channel you're watching so bandwidth is saveda DVR is always tuned to some channel, so it will be watching...but they had better let in at least two channels or it will be an effective downgrade for people with dual tuners. On 4/16/2010 10:14 AM, Rick Glazier wrote: That begs the question... I guess a DVR does NOT count as watching? Is that because it may NOT go through the main "set-top" control box? I have to ask, I have no Cable... Rick Glazier From: "Eli Allen" And then to fix that they switch to SDV which screws up DVRs. (SDV means only the channels being watched are taking up bandwidth so more stuff can fit on the cable) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2814 - Release Date: 04/16/10 02:31:00
Re: [H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
That begs the question... I guess a DVR does NOT count as watching? Is that because it may NOT go through the main "set-top" control box? I have to ask, I have no Cable... Rick Glazier From: "Eli Allen" And then to fix that they switch to SDV which screws up DVRs. (SDV means only the channels being watched are taking up bandwidth so more stuff can fit on the cable)
Re: [H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
That's what Charter is doing now. I already have some mind do new tuner thingthat is supposed to replace the cable card. Its installed, but not operational yet. How will that screw up my DVR? If I can't get two channels in, then I'm going to be royally pissed. On 4/16/2010 9:41 AM, Eli Allen wrote: And then to fix that they switch to SDV which screws up DVRs. (SDV means only the channels being watched are taking up bandwidth so more stuff can fit on the cable) On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, Rick Glazier wrote: In one word, complain. There are a million reasons this can happen, but most come down to compression and money (cost)... Compression. There is only so much bandwidth available on the wire and frankly, there isn't enough room for all the channels in hidef. They get around this by giving great HD for the most watched channels, but the upper channels that have few viewers they compress like they're trying to fit a BD on a VCD. Complain about your channels, they will blame it on you to start, so expect a few useless housecalls. Christopher Fisk -- Chris Griffin: Alright, dad! Fight the machine! Stewie Griffin: How does he know about the machine? > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2814 - Release Date: 04/16/10 02:31:00
Re: [H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
And then to fix that they switch to SDV which screws up DVRs. (SDV means only the channels being watched are taking up bandwidth so more stuff can fit on the cable) On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Christopher Fisk wrote: > On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, Rick Glazier wrote: > >> In one word, complain. >> There are a million reasons this can happen, >> but most come down to compression and money (cost)... > > Compression. There is only so much bandwidth available on the wire and > frankly, there isn't enough room for all the channels in hidef. They get > around this by giving great HD for the most watched channels, but the upper > channels that have few viewers they compress like they're trying to fit a BD > on a VCD. > > Complain about your channels, they will blame it on you to start, so expect > a few useless housecalls. > > > Christopher Fisk > -- > Chris Griffin: Alright, dad! Fight the machine! Stewie Griffin: How does > he know about the machine? >
Re: [H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, Rick Glazier wrote: In one word, complain. There are a million reasons this can happen, but most come down to compression and money (cost)... Compression. There is only so much bandwidth available on the wire and frankly, there isn't enough room for all the channels in hidef. They get around this by giving great HD for the most watched channels, but the upper channels that have few viewers they compress like they're trying to fit a BD on a VCD. Complain about your channels, they will blame it on you to start, so expect a few useless housecalls. Christopher Fisk -- Chris Griffin: Alright, dad! Fight the machine! Stewie Griffin: How does he know about the machine?
Re: [H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
In one word, complain. There are a million reasons this can happen, but most come down to compression and money (cost)... Rick Glazier From: "Anthony Q. Martin" Why is is that some of my hi-def channels on Charter suck royally while others or glorious? All of the major networks seem to do a great job, but some of the otherslike CW in my areajust plain suck. I thought perhaps my house just has subpar wiring (actually, I think it does despite this), but when some channels are really, really good and others are crap What to do about this?
[H] Channels on Hi-Def Cable
Why is is that some of my hi-def channels on Charter suck royally while others or glorious? All of the major networks seem to do a great job, but some of the otherslike CW in my areajust plain suck. I thought perhaps my house just has subpar wiring (actually, I think it does despite this), but when some channels are really, really good and others are crap What to do about this?
