Re: [H] Diagnosing a video issue?

2010-05-23 Thread maccrawj
The 9800 is actually supported under Windows 7? I though it got lumped in with the 
rest of the pre-directX 10 stuff as no longer supported (at all) by CCC above 6.5?


Just my $.02, but I'll bet it's running in VGA compatibility mode and that's all it 
will ever do.




On 5/22/2010 6:29 PM, GPL wrote:

Got this older machine we use at the house thats a P4 3.2 with a
9800XT ati card. Been running windows 7 on it. Last two weeks it's
been OK with its use.

Today it seems the desktop is very slow, goes dark screen, waits to
come back online with the working hour glass type circle spinning,
seems to just really hang up but nothing really comes of it to go back
into use. Clicking icons is delayed, that sort of thing.

If I load up in safe mode, safe mode w/ networking, or load up
normally by removing the 9800XT from the device manager and restarting
the PC it seems to run normally. Other than the resolution being less
than what the native mode of the monitor is it seems to work OK.

Tried reinstalling the ATI driver but it still hangs. Seems to only
operate now with no driver, or default windows settings.

Couple of times I see a message pop up that says The display driver
has stopped responding but has recovered type of thing.

Can the card finally be going bad, not being able to handle the full
driver? It sort of blinks black screen to desktop every once in a
while as I type this looking over at it.



Re: [H] Diagnosing a video issue?

2010-05-23 Thread GPL
The thing ran just fine to be honest with you. I downloaded the driver
from the ATI website under legacy software support structure. It's
just that I would assume that if the video card was going bad, that it
would go bad be it under it's own driver or in any video mode. Now I
can't seem to keep it in windows driver that lets it stay stable.
Windows always puts another driver on it during normal boot up to make
it slow down again.

Right now I found an old GeForce Ti4200 64MB AGP card, and let windows
just put its own standard VGA driver into it. Its running smooth
despite the graphical look not being too smooth and monitor resolution
not supported. It stays at 1024x768. At least it's usable for the
moment.

I still would like to find a video card, if that is indeed the
problem, that was equivalent to the previous or better. Hopefully it
was just the card. I don't have the parts laying around I used to
years ago to swap in and out to test machines. Ahh the good ole days!

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:06 AM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote:
 The 9800 is actually supported under Windows 7? I though it got lumped in
 with the rest of the pre-directX 10 stuff as no longer supported (at all) by
 CCC above 6.5?

 Just my $.02, but I'll bet it's running in VGA compatibility mode and that's
 all it will ever do.



 On 5/22/2010 6:29 PM, GPL wrote:

 Got this older machine we use at the house thats a P4 3.2 with a
 9800XT ati card. Been running windows 7 on it. Last two weeks it's
 been OK with its use.

 Today it seems the desktop is very slow, goes dark screen, waits to
 come back online with the working hour glass type circle spinning,
 seems to just really hang up but nothing really comes of it to go back
 into use. Clicking icons is delayed, that sort of thing.

 If I load up in safe mode, safe mode w/ networking, or load up
 normally by removing the 9800XT from the device manager and restarting
 the PC it seems to run normally. Other than the resolution being less
 than what the native mode of the monitor is it seems to work OK.

 Tried reinstalling the ATI driver but it still hangs. Seems to only
 operate now with no driver, or default windows settings.

 Couple of times I see a message pop up that says The display driver
 has stopped responding but has recovered type of thing.

 Can the card finally be going bad, not being able to handle the full
 driver? It sort of blinks black screen to desktop every once in a
 while as I type this looking over at it.




[H] Diagnosing a video issue?

2010-05-22 Thread GPL
Got this older machine we use at the house thats a P4 3.2 with a
9800XT ati card. Been running windows 7 on it. Last two weeks it's
been OK with its use.

Today it seems the desktop is very slow, goes dark screen, waits to
come back online with the working hour glass type circle spinning,
seems to just really hang up but nothing really comes of it to go back
into use. Clicking icons is delayed, that sort of thing.

If I load up in safe mode, safe mode w/ networking, or load up
normally by removing the 9800XT from the device manager and restarting
the PC it seems to run normally. Other than the resolution being less
than what the native mode of the monitor is it seems to work OK.

Tried reinstalling the ATI driver but it still hangs. Seems to only
operate now with no driver, or default windows settings.

Couple of times I see a message pop up that says The display driver
has stopped responding but has recovered type of thing.

Can the card finally be going bad, not being able to handle the full
driver? It sort of blinks black screen to desktop every once in a
while as I type this looking over at it.