Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-10 Thread j maccraw
Granted, I just meant to say is for $179 they could
have built the unit too look/be 
more like a legit consumer product rather than a
homebrew prototype. That is worst 
made/looking external 3.5" enclosure money can buy &
they're all over ebay like a 
plague, Red China plague to be exact! Could have been
built in a plastic RS project 
box and looked more legit, LOL.

Sadly we'd have choices besides ammature homebrew and
no-name ROC sweatshops if the 
content cops would stop fighting imaginary battles &
let the evolution happen. =(


Tharin Olsen wrote:
> No doubt a real HTPC built by anyone here would be
> much better but there are some definite Pros when
> using a STB (turnkey, compact, low power, quiet, no
> movable parts, etc). At the moment I wouldn't dream
of
> replacing my HTPC with something like this, but I
> don't want 3-4 HTPCs in my home. Something like this
> will be fine for the kitchen, guest bedroom, outdoor
> stereo, etc.
> 
> -Tharin O.
> 
> --- j maccraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I'm not impressed.
>>
>> Starting with the case that I would not even cram
my
>> hdd into (had one, returned as 
>> junk), the spartan product web site, lastly the
>> current bug list tells me this is 
>> slightly above homebrew. Whatever hardware goes
into
>> this, I'll bet any of us could 
>> build better.
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Reeves
:).  Just what I was trying to get at.  The xbox360 doesn't have a seper high 
end cpu, but it has a native video transcoder. Enough where the usb hd-dvd 
drive worked.  So I don't see why this wouldn't work.  I was trying to point 
out cpu horsepower isn't only variable.  
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-Original Message-
From: James Boswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 17:13:37 
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour


Or just maybe the 780G is doing the decode :P

On 9 Apr 2008, at 16:50, Chris Reeves wrote:
> Haven't checked  Really on a core2. :). Hmm.  Using a 780g I can
> watch real blueray fullscreen at 1080p on a samsung 56" without a
> single stutter.  Of course, I'm using the all powerful le-1640 $42
> cpu.  So might make a difference.  :)
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tharin Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:51:03
> To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour
>
>
> I didn't think the Xbox had the horsepower to handle
> high bitrate H.264 very well if it all. I've got
> hi-def rips from BluRay/HDDVD and what not that made a
> Core2Duo 2180 stutter, display artifacts, etc. because
> one of the cores was hitting 100% utilization. It
> wasn't until I installed the CoreAVC codecs that
> supported SMP that I could achieve flawless playback
> on such files. Xbox's also require hard drives and
> aftermarket mods don't they?
>
> -Tharin O.
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Then one htpc and xbox's everywhere else.  Hell,
>> with plugins they relay divx/xvid, interface and
>> stored dvd, plus mcl applications.
>> Sent via BlackBerry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tharin Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:14:38
>> To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>> Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour
>>
>>
>> No doubt a real HTPC built by anyone here would be
>> much better but there are some definite Pros when
>> using a STB (turnkey, compact, low power, quiet, no
>> movable parts, etc). At the moment I wouldn't dream
>> of
>> replacing my HTPC with something like this, but I
>> don't want 3-4 HTPCs in my home. Something like this
>> will be fine for the kitchen, guest bedroom, outdoor
>> stereo, etc.
>>
>> -Tharin O.
>>
>> --- j maccraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not impressed.
>>>
>>> Starting with the case that I would not even cram
>> my
>>> hdd into (had one, returned as
>>> junk), the spartan product web site, lastly the
>>> current bug list tells me this is
>>> slightly above homebrew. Whatever hardware goes
>> into
>>> this, I'll bet any of us could
>>> build better.
>>>
>>
>> 
>>



Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-09 Thread James Boswell

Or just maybe the 780G is doing the decode :P

On 9 Apr 2008, at 16:50, Chris Reeves wrote:
Haven't checked  Really on a core2. :). Hmm.  Using a 780g I can  
watch real blueray fullscreen at 1080p on a samsung 56" without a  
single stutter.  Of course, I'm using the all powerful le-1640 $42  
cpu.  So might make a difference.  :)



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-Original Message-
From: Tharin Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:51:03
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour


I didn't think the Xbox had the horsepower to handle
high bitrate H.264 very well if it all. I've got
hi-def rips from BluRay/HDDVD and what not that made a
Core2Duo 2180 stutter, display artifacts, etc. because
one of the cores was hitting 100% utilization. It
wasn't until I installed the CoreAVC codecs that
supported SMP that I could achieve flawless playback
on such files. Xbox's also require hard drives and
aftermarket mods don't they?

-Tharin O.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Then one htpc and xbox's everywhere else.  Hell,
with plugins they relay divx/xvid, interface and
stored dvd, plus mcl applications.
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-Original Message-
From: Tharin Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:14:38
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour


No doubt a real HTPC built by anyone here would be
much better but there are some definite Pros when
using a STB (turnkey, compact, low power, quiet, no
movable parts, etc). At the moment I wouldn't dream
of
replacing my HTPC with something like this, but I
don't want 3-4 HTPCs in my home. Something like this
will be fine for the kitchen, guest bedroom, outdoor
stereo, etc.

-Tharin O.

--- j maccraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm not impressed.

Starting with the case that I would not even cram

my

hdd into (had one, returned as
junk), the spartan product web site, lastly the
current bug list tells me this is
slightly above homebrew. Whatever hardware goes

into

this, I'll bet any of us could
build better.









Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Reeves
Haven't checked  Really on a core2. :). Hmm.  Using a 780g I can watch real 
blueray fullscreen at 1080p on a samsung 56" without a single stutter.  Of 
course, I'm using the all powerful le-1640 $42 cpu.  So might make a 
difference.  :)


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-Original Message-
From: Tharin Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:51:03 
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour


I didn't think the Xbox had the horsepower to handle
high bitrate H.264 very well if it all. I've got
hi-def rips from BluRay/HDDVD and what not that made a
Core2Duo 2180 stutter, display artifacts, etc. because
one of the cores was hitting 100% utilization. It
wasn't until I installed the CoreAVC codecs that
supported SMP that I could achieve flawless playback
on such files. Xbox's also require hard drives and
aftermarket mods don't they?

-Tharin O.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Then one htpc and xbox's everywhere else.  Hell,
> with plugins they relay divx/xvid, interface and
> stored dvd, plus mcl applications.
> Sent via BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tharin Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:14:38
> To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour
>
>
> No doubt a real HTPC built by anyone here would be
> much better but there are some definite Pros when
> using a STB (turnkey, compact, low power, quiet, no
> movable parts, etc). At the moment I wouldn't dream
> of
> replacing my HTPC with something like this, but I
> don't want 3-4 HTPCs in my home. Something like this
> will be fine for the kitchen, guest bedroom, outdoor
> stereo, etc.
>
> -Tharin O.
>
> --- j maccraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm not impressed.
> >
> > Starting with the case that I would not even cram
> my
> > hdd into (had one, returned as
> > junk), the spartan product web site, lastly the
> > current bug list tells me this is
> > slightly above homebrew. Whatever hardware goes
> into
> > this, I'll bet any of us could
> > build better.
> >
>
> 
>


Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-09 Thread Tharin Olsen
I didn't think the Xbox had the horsepower to handle
high bitrate H.264 very well if it all. I've got
hi-def rips from BluRay/HDDVD and what not that made a
Core2Duo 2180 stutter, display artifacts, etc. because
one of the cores was hitting 100% utilization. It
wasn't until I installed the CoreAVC codecs that
supported SMP that I could achieve flawless playback
on such files. Xbox's also require hard drives and
aftermarket mods don't they?

-Tharin O.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Then one htpc and xbox's everywhere else.  Hell,
> with plugins they relay divx/xvid, interface and
> stored dvd, plus mcl applications. 
> Sent via BlackBerry 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tharin Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:14:38 
> To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour
> 
> 
> No doubt a real HTPC built by anyone here would be
> much better but there are some definite Pros when
> using a STB (turnkey, compact, low power, quiet, no
> movable parts, etc). At the moment I wouldn't dream
> of
> replacing my HTPC with something like this, but I
> don't want 3-4 HTPCs in my home. Something like this
> will be fine for the kitchen, guest bedroom, outdoor
> stereo, etc.
> 
> -Tharin O.
> 
> --- j maccraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I'm not impressed.
> > 
> > Starting with the case that I would not even cram
> my
> > hdd into (had one, returned as 
> > junk), the spartan product web site, lastly the
> > current bug list tells me this is 
> > slightly above homebrew. Whatever hardware goes
> into
> > this, I'll bet any of us could 
> > build better.
> > 
> 
> 
> 



Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-09 Thread tmservo
Then one htpc and xbox's everywhere else.  Hell, with plugins they relay 
divx/xvid, interface and stored dvd, plus mcl applications. 
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Tharin Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:14:38 
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour


No doubt a real HTPC built by anyone here would be
much better but there are some definite Pros when
using a STB (turnkey, compact, low power, quiet, no
movable parts, etc). At the moment I wouldn't dream of
replacing my HTPC with something like this, but I
don't want 3-4 HTPCs in my home. Something like this
will be fine for the kitchen, guest bedroom, outdoor
stereo, etc.

-Tharin O.

--- j maccraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm not impressed.
> 
> Starting with the case that I would not even cram my
> hdd into (had one, returned as 
> junk), the spartan product web site, lastly the
> current bug list tells me this is 
> slightly above homebrew. Whatever hardware goes into
> this, I'll bet any of us could 
> build better.
> 




Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-09 Thread Tharin Olsen
No doubt a real HTPC built by anyone here would be
much better but there are some definite Pros when
using a STB (turnkey, compact, low power, quiet, no
movable parts, etc). At the moment I wouldn't dream of
replacing my HTPC with something like this, but I
don't want 3-4 HTPCs in my home. Something like this
will be fine for the kitchen, guest bedroom, outdoor
stereo, etc.

-Tharin O.

--- j maccraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm not impressed.
> 
> Starting with the case that I would not even cram my
> hdd into (had one, returned as 
> junk), the spartan product web site, lastly the
> current bug list tells me this is 
> slightly above homebrew. Whatever hardware goes into
> this, I'll bet any of us could 
> build better.
> 




Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-09 Thread Tharin Olsen
Wow this sounds really awesome. When I first setup an
AppleTV for a client, it made me reconsider how I
might approach an HTPC in the future. Unfortunately
the processing capabilities weren't very good with
some of the various STB's at that time and the
firmware and GUI interfaces seemed kind of poor. If
this can support 720P and 1080i then it would be a
great way to add the HD media stored on my NAS to the
rest of the home. I'd still keep my htpc on my main
display though because I use it for gaming (MAME, NES,
SNES, Sega Genesis emulators w/ wireless Xbox360
controllers) as well as PVR/DVR and DVD upscaling.


Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-09 Thread Naushad, Zulfiqar
I'm still waiting for LED backlight screens to come down in price before I make 
the plunge.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:22 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour


Ya I loved it before I went hi-def.

On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:53:48AM +0300, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote:
> I don't have a HDTV yet, I still use a CRT TV.
> 
> I use a XBOX1 (with XBMC) as my HTPC.  It works flawlessly.  But I've seen 
> this one and have been thinking of getting it.  But to be honest, the XBOX is 
> wonderful.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:24 PM
> To: hwg
> Subject: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour
> 
> This little wonder just arrived at my place:
> 
> http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/
> 
> I am replacing my existing HTPC with the Popcorn Hour + a NAS.  The main
> reason is that the HTPC was not fast enough to do HD decoding and it was
> much simpler to use this box to replace it.  And since I was running
> Windows, no more weird config changes or bugs.
> 
> Tried it out last night for the first time and it was great.  Watched the
> 720p version of the BSG season opener and the Dr. Who premier.  On top for
> tonight is the first episode of John Adams in 720p as well.  Setup was a
> breeze, and the picture looks great.
> 
> -
> Brian

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Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-09 Thread Bryan Seitz

Ya I loved it before I went hi-def.

On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:53:48AM +0300, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote:
> I don't have a HDTV yet, I still use a CRT TV.
> 
> I use a XBOX1 (with XBMC) as my HTPC.  It works flawlessly.  But I've seen 
> this one and have been thinking of getting it.  But to be honest, the XBOX is 
> wonderful.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:24 PM
> To: hwg
> Subject: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour
> 
> This little wonder just arrived at my place:
> 
> http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/
> 
> I am replacing my existing HTPC with the Popcorn Hour + a NAS.  The main
> reason is that the HTPC was not fast enough to do HD decoding and it was
> much simpler to use this box to replace it.  And since I was running
> Windows, no more weird config changes or bugs.
> 
> Tried it out last night for the first time and it was great.  Watched the
> 720p version of the BSG season opener and the Dr. Who premier.  On top for
> tonight is the first episode of John Adams in 720p as well.  Setup was a
> breeze, and the picture looks great.
> 
> -
> Brian

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz


Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-09 Thread j maccraw
I'm not impressed.

Starting with the case that I would not even cram my
hdd into (had one, returned as 
junk), the spartan product web site, lastly the
current bug list tells me this is 
slightly above homebrew. Whatever hardware goes into
this, I'll bet any of us could 
build better.


1) YouTube and Google Video don't work [most likely
fixed by next fw update]
2) HDD spins when unit is in standby/idle mode [a
solution is being determined, maybe 
fixed by next fw]
3) Unit sends an audio signal via coax even when it's
in standby [a solution is being 
determined]
4) Aspect ratio on some MKV's gets messed up when zoom
feature is used [is fixed in 
the beta fw, so it'll be fixed in the next official
release most likely]
5) Playing raw DVD's (IFO+BUP+VOB) stutters over SMB
network [maybe fixed by next fw?]
6) Rewinding with .TS/MKV files doesn't work at all [a
solution is being determined]
7) JPG pictures that have been rotated vertically
aren't shown [a solution is being 
determined]
8 ) Playing DTS audio CD's are problematic [a solution
is being determined, check 
this:
http://www.networkedmediatank.com/viewtopic.php?t=562]
11) Subtitles can't process tags properly (eg hello is
displayed as hello) 
[fixed in latest alpha, expect it in the April fw]
12) When you watch a movie and the sub has two lines
to display, there is a one 
second delay between the two lines [a solutions is
being determined]
13) Since March fw, HDMI 720P/50Hz and HDMI 1080i/50Hz
video modes have aspect ratio 
problems with many files, they appear compressed
vertically [fixed for April fw]
14) Unit still uses old DST(daylight saving time)
setting, as opposed to newer 
standard [a solution is being determined]

http://www.networkedmediatank.com/viewtopic.php?t=2158


Brian Weeden wrote:
> This little wonder just arrived at my place:
> 
> http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/
> 
> I am replacing my existing HTPC with the Popcorn
Hour + a NAS.  The main
> reason is that the HTPC was not fast enough to do HD
decoding and it was
> much simpler to use this box to replace it.  And
since I was running
> Windows, no more weird config changes or bugs.
> 
> Tried it out last night for the first time and it
was great.  Watched the
> 720p version of the BSG season opener and the Dr.
Who premier.  On top for
> tonight is the first episode of John Adams in 720p
as well.  Setup was a
> breeze, and the picture looks great.
> 
> -
> Brian
> 
> 

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Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-09 Thread Naushad, Zulfiqar
I don't have a HDTV yet, I still use a CRT TV.

I use a XBOX1 (with XBMC) as my HTPC.  It works flawlessly.  But I've seen this 
one and have been thinking of getting it.  But to be honest, the XBOX is 
wonderful.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:24 PM
To: hwg
Subject: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

This little wonder just arrived at my place:

http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/

I am replacing my existing HTPC with the Popcorn Hour + a NAS.  The main
reason is that the HTPC was not fast enough to do HD decoding and it was
much simpler to use this box to replace it.  And since I was running
Windows, no more weird config changes or bugs.

Tried it out last night for the first time and it was great.  Watched the
720p version of the BSG season opener and the Dr. Who premier.  On top for
tonight is the first episode of John Adams in 720p as well.  Setup was a
breeze, and the picture looks great.

-
Brian


Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-08 Thread Brian Weeden
$179 in the US but when you add in $25 for international shipping (Canada)
and $40 duty from customs it turns into $250 for me :)  Still worth it.

Don't have any BluRay / HD-DVD movies as I don't own a player and until now
didn't have any way of playing them back.  As soon as I get my hands on a
movie I will let you know.

Haven't tried the BT client yet.  Installing it now.  I've been spoiled by
uTorrent with the RSS downloader plug-in so I imagine that I will be
disappointed.  But it is totally software dependant so there is hope for
improvement.

-
Brian

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Bryan Seitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 03:13:11PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote:
> > No Wi-fi either so it will only work in networked setups.  But after
> > struggling with streaming video over Wi-Fi for the last 6 months I can
> > understand why they left that off.
>
> Duh :)
>
> > As far as Gigabit LAN, not sure why that wasn't included.  Maybe it was
> a
> > Linux support issue - the thing uses an embedded kernel, not sure what
> > version.
>
> Cause it is likely that you don't have any hi def videos @ > 25Mbit.
>
> > As I said I've run 720p AVI files from it (42 minutes, 1.2 GB file size)
> and
> > it worked flawlessly.  My TV is a native 720p box so I'm happy.  If and
> when
> > we upgrade to a 1080p set then I will have to probably reconsider, but
> > supposedly the box will do 1080p.
>
> I wonder what the max bitrate h.264 it will play, I know the appletv plays
> '720p'
> as well, but @ <= 4Mbit which kinda sucks.  Any details?  Test any good 8G
> blu ray rips?
>
> > It can connect to any sort of external NAS and also has 2 USB 2.0 ports
> to
> > connect devices.  The box will operate as a NAS itself for any drives
> > attached to those ports and even has a built-in BitTorrent server which
> is
> > like an added bonus.  Also looks like it supports DVD playback from an
> > external drive attached to the USB ports, haven't tried that yet.
>
> Hmmm interesting.  Does bit torrent bog it down?
>
> > More than exceeds my expectations for $250.
>
> $179 in the US :)
>
> --
>
> Bryan G. Seitz
>


Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-08 Thread Greg Sevart
Actually, I take that back. Even BRD's maximum is less than 50mbit, wasn't
thinking right. :)

Greg

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:13 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour
> 
> No Wi-fi either so it will only work in networked setups.  But after
> struggling with streaming video over Wi-Fi for the last 6 months I can
> understand why they left that off.
> 
> As far as Gigabit LAN, not sure why that wasn't included.  Maybe it was
> a
> Linux support issue - the thing uses an embedded kernel, not sure what
> version.
> 
> As I said I've run 720p AVI files from it (42 minutes, 1.2 GB file
> size) and
> it worked flawlessly.  My TV is a native 720p box so I'm happy.  If and
> when
> we upgrade to a 1080p set then I will have to probably reconsider, but
> supposedly the box will do 1080p.
> 
> It can connect to any sort of external NAS and also has 2 USB 2.0 ports
> to
> connect devices.  The box will operate as a NAS itself for any drives
> attached to those ports and even has a built-in BitTorrent server which
> is
> like an added bonus.  Also looks like it supports DVD playback from an
> external drive attached to the USB ports, haven't tried that yet.
> 
> More than exceeds my expectations for $250.
> 
> -
> Brian
> 
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Greg Sevart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Started looking at it (not to replace my HTPC, it does more than
> simple
> > playback), but saw it only has a 10/100 NIC. That basically means no
> > playback of non-recompressed HD content over the network interface,
> which
> > would be a deal breaker for me.
> >
> > Looks pretty solid otherwise, though.
> >
> > Greg




Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-08 Thread Bryan Seitz
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 03:13:11PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote:
> No Wi-fi either so it will only work in networked setups.  But after
> struggling with streaming video over Wi-Fi for the last 6 months I can
> understand why they left that off.

Duh :)

> As far as Gigabit LAN, not sure why that wasn't included.  Maybe it was a
> Linux support issue - the thing uses an embedded kernel, not sure what
> version.

Cause it is likely that you don't have any hi def videos @ > 25Mbit.

> As I said I've run 720p AVI files from it (42 minutes, 1.2 GB file size) and
> it worked flawlessly.  My TV is a native 720p box so I'm happy.  If and when
> we upgrade to a 1080p set then I will have to probably reconsider, but
> supposedly the box will do 1080p.

I wonder what the max bitrate h.264 it will play, I know the appletv plays 
'720p'
as well, but @ <= 4Mbit which kinda sucks.  Any details?  Test any good 8G blu 
ray rips?

> It can connect to any sort of external NAS and also has 2 USB 2.0 ports to
> connect devices.  The box will operate as a NAS itself for any drives
> attached to those ports and even has a built-in BitTorrent server which is
> like an added bonus.  Also looks like it supports DVD playback from an
> external drive attached to the USB ports, haven't tried that yet.

Hmmm interesting.  Does bit torrent bog it down?
 
> More than exceeds my expectations for $250.

$179 in the US :)

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz


Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-08 Thread Brian Weeden
No Wi-fi either so it will only work in networked setups.  But after
struggling with streaming video over Wi-Fi for the last 6 months I can
understand why they left that off.

As far as Gigabit LAN, not sure why that wasn't included.  Maybe it was a
Linux support issue - the thing uses an embedded kernel, not sure what
version.

As I said I've run 720p AVI files from it (42 minutes, 1.2 GB file size) and
it worked flawlessly.  My TV is a native 720p box so I'm happy.  If and when
we upgrade to a 1080p set then I will have to probably reconsider, but
supposedly the box will do 1080p.

It can connect to any sort of external NAS and also has 2 USB 2.0 ports to
connect devices.  The box will operate as a NAS itself for any drives
attached to those ports and even has a built-in BitTorrent server which is
like an added bonus.  Also looks like it supports DVD playback from an
external drive attached to the USB ports, haven't tried that yet.

More than exceeds my expectations for $250.

-
Brian

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Greg Sevart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Started looking at it (not to replace my HTPC, it does more than simple
> playback), but saw it only has a 10/100 NIC. That basically means no
> playback of non-recompressed HD content over the network interface, which
> would be a deal breaker for me.
>
> Looks pretty solid otherwise, though.
>
> Greg
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:24 PM
> > To: hwg
> > Subject: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour
> >
> > This little wonder just arrived at my place:
> >
> > http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/
> >
> > I am replacing my existing HTPC with the Popcorn Hour + a NAS.  The
> > main
> > reason is that the HTPC was not fast enough to do HD decoding and it
> > was
> > much simpler to use this box to replace it.  And since I was running
> > Windows, no more weird config changes or bugs.
> >
> > Tried it out last night for the first time and it was great.  Watched
> > the
> > 720p version of the BSG season opener and the Dr. Who premier.  On top
> > for
> > tonight is the first episode of John Adams in 720p as well.  Setup was
> > a
> > breeze, and the picture looks great.
> >
> > -
> > Brian
>
>
>


Re: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-08 Thread Greg Sevart
Started looking at it (not to replace my HTPC, it does more than simple
playback), but saw it only has a 10/100 NIC. That basically means no
playback of non-recompressed HD content over the network interface, which
would be a deal breaker for me.

Looks pretty solid otherwise, though.

Greg

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:24 PM
> To: hwg
> Subject: [H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour
> 
> This little wonder just arrived at my place:
> 
> http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/
> 
> I am replacing my existing HTPC with the Popcorn Hour + a NAS.  The
> main
> reason is that the HTPC was not fast enough to do HD decoding and it
> was
> much simpler to use this box to replace it.  And since I was running
> Windows, no more weird config changes or bugs.
> 
> Tried it out last night for the first time and it was great.  Watched
> the
> 720p version of the BSG season opener and the Dr. Who premier.  On top
> for
> tonight is the first episode of John Adams in 720p as well.  Setup was
> a
> breeze, and the picture looks great.
> 
> -
> Brian




[H] HTPC Replacement - Popcorn Hour

2008-04-08 Thread Brian Weeden
This little wonder just arrived at my place:

http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/

I am replacing my existing HTPC with the Popcorn Hour + a NAS.  The main
reason is that the HTPC was not fast enough to do HD decoding and it was
much simpler to use this box to replace it.  And since I was running
Windows, no more weird config changes or bugs.

Tried it out last night for the first time and it was great.  Watched the
720p version of the BSG season opener and the Dr. Who premier.  On top for
tonight is the first episode of John Adams in 720p as well.  Setup was a
breeze, and the picture looks great.

-
Brian