RE: [H] Intel really starting to feel AMD's bite.

2006-04-29 Thread Chris Reeves
Well, honestly, I figure Dell gets cut a much bigger discount on all items,
rather then just CPU alone.  More then that, I figure items which can cost
small OEMs big money (like a case & PSU) are virtually nothing for Dell who
does their own, Modems?  Hard Drives?  Dell often doesn't sell the new
cutting edge, and I'm sure they load up on inventory overbuys on 120G etc.
drives they pay very little on and so on.

I don't think CPU is the only place they save money.

CW

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> Doesn't this sound like Intel's CPU prices are going to be cut drastically
> to reduce that inventory???
>

Intel is simply losing the low end computer war. I am seeing Compaq's with 
AMD Sempron's now. For years we low volume OEM's have been subsidizing Dell 
and the other large computer manufacturers.

Is there any way they could sell CPU's to Dell for $20.00 if they did not 
charge us low volume OEM's $100.00 per CPU?

Oh, I am supposed to prove Dell pays only $20.00 for a CPU and perhaps less 
for Windows Home OEM? This is easy. Just add up these 8 components in the 
price of a $300.00 to $500.00 name brand computer.

Case
Motherboard
CPU
Memory
Modem
Hard drive
DVD-CDR/W
Windows XP Home OEM

There simply is not enough wiggle room there for them to pay any more than 
$20.00 for a CPU and for Windows XP Home OEM.

The only way Intel can cut prices is to pass those cuts on as increases to 
us smaller OEM's who are already paying for your Dells and if they do this 
and put us out of business, then you will pay the true costs to build your 
Dells. This is an option. If they do this, look out for the end of the cheap

Dells. Be prepared to pay from $600.00 to $1000.00 for your Dells and other 
name brands if we quit subsidizing them for you.

Chuck 



Re: [H] Intel really starting to feel AMD's bite.

2006-04-29 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)

At 08:09 AM 29/04/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, I am supposed to prove Dell pays only $20.00 for a CPU and 
perhaps less for Windows Home OEM? This is easy. Just add up these 8 
components in the price of a $300.00 to $500.00 name brand computer.


Case
Motherboard
CPU
Memory
Modem
Hard drive
DVD-CDR/W
Windows XP Home OEM

There simply is not enough wiggle room there for them to pay any 
more than $20.00 for a CPU and for Windows XP Home OEM.


So you are assuming that they only get great prices on CPUs and 
Windows?  Why wouldn't they be getting vastly better prices than we 
do on all components given that they sell millions of times more product?


T 



Re: [H] Intel really starting to feel AMD's bite.

2006-04-29 Thread chuck


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Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:29 PM
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Doesn't this sound like Intel's CPU prices are going to be cut drastically
to reduce that inventory???



Intel is simply losing the low end computer war. I am seeing Compaq's with 
AMD Sempron's now. For years we low volume OEM's have been subsidizing Dell 
and the other large computer manufacturers.


Is there any way they could sell CPU's to Dell for $20.00 if they did not 
charge us low volume OEM's $100.00 per CPU?


Oh, I am supposed to prove Dell pays only $20.00 for a CPU and perhaps less 
for Windows Home OEM? This is easy. Just add up these 8 components in the 
price of a $300.00 to $500.00 name brand computer.


Case
Motherboard
CPU
Memory
Modem
Hard drive
DVD-CDR/W
Windows XP Home OEM

There simply is not enough wiggle room there for them to pay any more than 
$20.00 for a CPU and for Windows XP Home OEM.


The only way Intel can cut prices is to pass those cuts on as increases to 
us smaller OEM's who are already paying for your Dells and if they do this 
and put us out of business, then you will pay the true costs to build your 
Dells. This is an option. If they do this, look out for the end of the cheap 
Dells. Be prepared to pay from $600.00 to $1000.00 for your Dells and other 
name brands if we quit subsidizing them for you.


Chuck 



RE: [H] Intel really starting to feel AMD's bite.

2006-04-28 Thread Mark Dodge
Doesn't this sound like Intel's CPU prices are going to be cut drastically
to reduce that inventory??? 


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
360-772-2433 
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http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/04/28/intel_announces_massive_restructuring/




[H] Intel really starting to feel AMD's bite.

2006-04-28 Thread Hayes Elkins

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/04/28/intel_announces_massive_restructuring/