[H] Label dvd discs

[Mesdaq, Ali]

Anyone use those dvd discs that you can flip over and label by burning
your label to the top of it? How is the overall quality of those dvd's?

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Chris Reeves]

You mean Lightscribe.  

I use lightscribe discs for clients; it works well, the text quality is
very, very good.  However, to burn a lightscribe label in, it takes almost
30 minutes per disc, which is a downside.  And it is a black/white (more
kind of an off-brown/gold) type label, so monochrome.

But they do wear very well and they look impressive to clients.

For the most part, I tend to use either a sharpie or my Epson R200 which
will print directly onto DVDs via it's CD Print engine for great effect.

CW

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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:02 PM
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Subject: [H] Label dvd discs

Anyone use those dvd discs that you can flip over and label by burning
your label to the top of it? How is the overall quality of those dvd's?

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Mesdaq, Ali]

So your happy with the Epson r200 as a printer for dvd's? Curious is
there a separate tray for loading the dvd for printing. Also how is the
other uses of the Epson r200 is it good for digital picture printing?
Its only $99 at epsons website so it seems kinda cheap for a good
printer.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:03 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs

You mean Lightscribe.  

I use lightscribe discs for clients; it works well, the text quality is
very, very good.  However, to burn a lightscribe label in, it takes
almost
30 minutes per disc, which is a downside.  And it is a black/white (more
kind of an off-brown/gold) type label, so monochrome.

But they do wear very well and they look impressive to clients.

For the most part, I tend to use either a sharpie or my Epson R200 which
will print directly onto DVDs via it's CD Print engine for great effect.

CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:02 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: [H] Label dvd discs

Anyone use those dvd discs that you can flip over and label by burning
your label to the top of it? How is the overall quality of those dvd's?

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Chris Reeves]

It comes with a separate "CD Holder" tray that seems to be very functional.
Is it the best printer out there?  Probably not, but it is very functional,
ink cost is fairly cheap, and the output to DVD as a label is stunning.  

I don't use the Epson for much else, I keep a laser printer for almost all
of my daily printing and print almost nothing in color except for CD/DVD
labels.. so I can't comment thoroughly on the other part.  But for what it
does, it's been a real winner for me.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:47 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs

So your happy with the Epson r200 as a printer for dvd's? Curious is
there a separate tray for loading the dvd for printing. Also how is the
other uses of the Epson r200 is it good for digital picture printing?
Its only $99 at epsons website so it seems kinda cheap for a good
printer.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:03 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs

You mean Lightscribe.  

I use lightscribe discs for clients; it works well, the text quality is
very, very good.  However, to burn a lightscribe label in, it takes
almost
30 minutes per disc, which is a downside.  And it is a black/white (more
kind of an off-brown/gold) type label, so monochrome.

But they do wear very well and they look impressive to clients.

For the most part, I tend to use either a sharpie or my Epson R200 which
will print directly onto DVDs via it's CD Print engine for great effect.

CW

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:02 PM
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Subject: [H] Label dvd discs

Anyone use those dvd discs that you can flip over and label by burning
your label to the top of it? How is the overall quality of those dvd's?

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Harry McGregor]

Also around here both the R200 and R300 come up on sale at compuseless
(compusa) for about $50 after rebates.


Harry

On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 19:01 -0500, Chris Reeves wrote:
> It comes with a separate "CD Holder" tray that seems to be very functional.
> Is it the best printer out there?  Probably not, but it is very functional,
> ink cost is fairly cheap, and the output to DVD as a label is stunning.  
> 
> I don't use the Epson for much else, I keep a laser printer for almost all
> of my daily printing and print almost nothing in color except for CD/DVD
> labels.. so I can't comment thoroughly on the other part.  But for what it
> does, it's been a real winner for me.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:47 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
> 
> So your happy with the Epson r200 as a printer for dvd's? Curious is
> there a separate tray for loading the dvd for printing. Also how is the
> other uses of the Epson r200 is it good for digital picture printing?
> Its only $99 at epsons website so it seems kinda cheap for a good
> printer.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:03 PM
> To: 'The Hardware List'
> Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
> 
> You mean Lightscribe.  
> 
> I use lightscribe discs for clients; it works well, the text quality is
> very, very good.  However, to burn a lightscribe label in, it takes
> almost
> 30 minutes per disc, which is a downside.  And it is a black/white (more
> kind of an off-brown/gold) type label, so monochrome.
> 
> But they do wear very well and they look impressive to clients.
> 
> For the most part, I tend to use either a sharpie or my Epson R200 which
> will print directly onto DVDs via it's CD Print engine for great effect.
> 
> CW
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:02 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: [H] Label dvd discs
> 
> Anyone use those dvd discs that you can flip over and label by burning
> your label to the top of it? How is the overall quality of those dvd's?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
-- 
Harry McGregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Open Source Education Foundation

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[rls]

I agree 100% - use my R200 just for cd/dvd's and it does very, very well. I
am totally pleased with the guality of text and graphics. The discs look
every bit as good as commercial - but soak them in water and the ink will
somewhat dissolve and the surface not as smooth as commercial, but these are
minor quibbles - I don't suspect you soak you dvd's regularly - I paid $70
for mine - my lasers are for anything else. Actually using this thing has
given me a great deal of respect for Epson - to produce a printer at this
price point with what it does is great.

If you want high end photo, Epson has an R8xx series, sells for about $560
Bob

"-Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:02 PM
"To: 'The Hardware List'
"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"It comes with a separate "CD Holder" tray that seems to be very functional.
"Is it the best printer out there?  Probably not, but it is very functional,
"ink cost is fairly cheap, and the output to DVD as a label is stunning.
"
"I don't use the Epson for much else, I keep a laser printer for almost all
"of my daily printing and print almost nothing in color except for CD/DVD
"labels.. so I can't comment thoroughly on the other part.  But for what it
"does, it's been a real winner for me.
"
"-Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:47 PM
"To: The Hardware List
"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"So your happy with the Epson r200 as a printer for dvd's? Curious is
"there a separate tray for loading the dvd for printing. Also how is the
"other uses of the Epson r200 is it good for digital picture printing?
"Its only $99 at epsons website so it seems kinda cheap for a good
"printer.
"
"-----Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:03 PM
"To: 'The Hardware List'
"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"You mean Lightscribe.
"
"I use lightscribe discs for clients; it works well, the text quality is
"very, very good.  However, to burn a lightscribe label in, it takes
"almost
"30 minutes per disc, which is a downside.  And it is a black/white (more
"kind of an off-brown/gold) type label, so monochrome.
"
"But they do wear very well and they look impressive to clients.
"
"For the most part, I tend to use either a sharpie or my Epson R200 which
"will print directly onto DVDs via it's CD Print engine for great effect.
"
"CW
"
"-Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:02 PM
"To: The Hardware List
"Subject: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"Anyone use those dvd discs that you can flip over and label by burning
"your label to the top of it? How is the overall quality of those dvd's?
"
"
"
"

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Winterlight]

Are these just regular DVD blanks, or do you need to use a special DVD blank?



At 08:49 PM 9/14/2005, you wrote:

I agree 100% - use my R200 just for cd/dvd's and it does very, very well. I
am totally pleased with the guality of text and graphics. The discs look
every bit as good as commercial - but soak them in water and the ink will
somewhat dissolve and the surface not as smooth as commercial, but these are
minor quibbles - I don't suspect you soak you dvd's regularly - I paid $70
for mine - my lasers are for anything else. Actually using this thing has
given me a great deal of respect for Epson - to produce a printer at this
price point with what it does is great.

If you want high end photo, Epson has an R8xx series, sells for about $560
Bob

"-Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:02 PM
"To: 'The Hardware List'
"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"It comes with a separate "CD Holder" tray that seems to be very functional.
"Is it the best printer out there?  Probably not, but it is very functional,
"ink cost is fairly cheap, and the output to DVD as a label is stunning.
"
"I don't use the Epson for much else, I keep a laser printer for almost all
"of my daily printing and print almost nothing in color except for CD/DVD
"labels.. so I can't comment thoroughly on the other part.  But for what it
"does, it's been a real winner for me.
"
"-Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:47 PM
"To: The Hardware List
"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"So your happy with the Epson r200 as a printer for dvd's? Curious is
"there a separate tray for loading the dvd for printing. Also how is the
"other uses of the Epson r200 is it good for digital picture printing?
"Its only $99 at epsons website so it seems kinda cheap for a good
"printer.
"
"-----Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:03 PM
"To: 'The Hardware List'
"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"You mean Lightscribe.
"
"I use lightscribe discs for clients; it works well, the text quality is
"very, very good.  However, to burn a lightscribe label in, it takes
"almost
"30 minutes per disc, which is a downside.  And it is a black/white (more
"kind of an off-brown/gold) type label, so monochrome.
"
"But they do wear very well and they look impressive to clients.
"
"For the most part, I tend to use either a sharpie or my Epson R200 which
"will print directly onto DVDs via it's CD Print engine for great effect.
"
"CW
"
"-Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:02 PM
"To: The Hardware List
"Subject: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"Anyone use those dvd discs that you can flip over and label by burning
"your label to the top of it? How is the overall quality of those dvd's?
"
"
"
"

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Chris Reeves]

DVD Printables.

Example:

http://tinyurl.com/buol4


CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:40 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs

Are these just regular DVD blanks, or do you need to use a special DVD
blank?



At 08:49 PM 9/14/2005, you wrote:
>I agree 100% - use my R200 just for cd/dvd's and it does very, very well. I
>am totally pleased with the guality of text and graphics. The discs look
>every bit as good as commercial - but soak them in water and the ink will
>somewhat dissolve and the surface not as smooth as commercial, but these
are
>minor quibbles - I don't suspect you soak you dvd's regularly - I paid $70
>for mine - my lasers are for anything else. Actually using this thing has
>given me a great deal of respect for Epson - to produce a printer at this
>price point with what it does is great.
>
>If you want high end photo, Epson has an R8xx series, sells for about $560
>Bob
>
>"-Original Message-
>"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
>"[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
>"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:02 PM
>"To: 'The Hardware List'
>"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
>"
>"It comes with a separate "CD Holder" tray that seems to be very
functional.
>"Is it the best printer out there?  Probably not, but it is very
functional,
>"ink cost is fairly cheap, and the output to DVD as a label is stunning.
>"
>"I don't use the Epson for much else, I keep a laser printer for almost all
>"of my daily printing and print almost nothing in color except for CD/DVD
>"labels.. so I can't comment thoroughly on the other part.  But for what it
>"does, it's been a real winner for me.
>"
>"-Original Message-
>"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
>"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:47 PM
>"To: The Hardware List
>"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
>"
>"So your happy with the Epson r200 as a printer for dvd's? Curious is
>"there a separate tray for loading the dvd for printing. Also how is the
>"other uses of the Epson r200 is it good for digital picture printing?
>"Its only $99 at epsons website so it seems kinda cheap for a good
>"printer.
>"
>"-Original Message-
>"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
>"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:03 PM
>"To: 'The Hardware List'
>"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
>"
>"You mean Lightscribe.
>"
>"I use lightscribe discs for clients; it works well, the text quality is
>"very, very good.  However, to burn a lightscribe label in, it takes
>"almost
>"30 minutes per disc, which is a downside.  And it is a black/white (more
>"kind of an off-brown/gold) type label, so monochrome.
>"
>"But they do wear very well and they look impressive to clients.
>"
>"For the most part, I tend to use either a sharpie or my Epson R200 which
>"will print directly onto DVDs via it's CD Print engine for great effect.
>"
>"CW
>"
>"-Original Message-
>"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
>"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:02 PM
>"To: The Hardware List
>"Subject: [H] Label dvd discs
>"
>"Anyone use those dvd discs that you can flip over and label by burning
>"your label to the top of it? How is the overall quality of those dvd's?
>"
>"
>"
>"

Re: [H] Label dvd discs

[chuck]

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'The Hardware List'" 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:52 AM
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs



DVD Printables.

Example:

http://tinyurl.com/buol4



Although I have made a "work copy" of some DVD movies I own to protect the 
original, I have not gotten extensively involved in DVD copying. This means 
my opinion is from inexperience.


To me, those fancy CD and DVD homemade labels are like counterfeit money, 
easy to spot. To me it looks "cheap" to doll up a bootleg copy with a fancy 
label. I simply hand wrote the title on every CD or DVD I have ever copied. 
Although in some people's opinion some of my copies may be bootleg. It is 
much simpler to admit this than to get into a debate over what is legal to 
copy and what is not. Since 99% of my copies are for personal use I am the 
only one who sees the label. If I were not running a computer business I may 
be more willing to "share" some of my copies. When I provide the extra 
service of making a "work copy" for a customer of one of their CD's or DVD's 
they know the label will be handwritten.


I have never heard of a computer business being busted for receiving copies 
of copyrighted data. Again, legal or illegal is often a hotly debated topic. 
This means a computer shop can add to its personal library by receiving 
copies and it not be looked upon near as hard as distributing copies. The 
officials do not associate receiving with profit taking like they associate 
distribution with profit taking. I am merely stating my opinion here, not 
making suggestions.


I am not advocating abandoning your ideas of nice looking labels. I am just 
throwing in a twist of humor or a different viewpoint. As I said, printed 
labels look nice, but to me look "cheap." This opinion surely involves some 
jealousy on my part because I am too lazy to establish the labeling process. 
Although in one sense they may look "cheap", they do look lots better than 
handwritten labels and are much easier to read.


Is scanning the original label and making an exact copy of it onto the 
surface of the CD or DVD a feature in this process? If so those could look 
so good nobody would know it is a copy.


I will all of you who have taken up this process well in your efforts,

Chuck 

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Neil Davidson]

 
Ermsome of us do make our own DVDs using our own content that is in no
way a copyright infringement (in fact the copyright belongs to us as I shot
the footage, edited it together and created the DVD). Personally I would
feel like a fool giving out DVDs containing training video of our products
to clients that just had "Technowrap Core Training DVD - English" written on
the top. ATM we print stick on labels on our disks, not ideal, but I'm
trying to get the company to buy an R200 (or similar) and a stand alone
duplicator.

We also produce documentation/marketing CDs, backup disks, DVDs of our
visual underwater camera and ROV surveys, etc. All copies that are intended
to leave the office have labels on them.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 15 September 2005 12:18
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] Label dvd discs
> 
> 
> Although I have made a "work copy" of some DVD movies I own 
> to protect the 
> original, I have not gotten extensively involved in DVD 
> copying. This means 
> my opinion is from inexperience.
> 
> To me, those fancy CD and DVD homemade labels are like 
> counterfeit money, 
> easy to spot. To me it looks "cheap" to doll up a bootleg 
> copy with a fancy 
> label. I simply hand wrote the title on every CD or DVD I 
> have ever copied. 
> Although in some people's opinion some of my copies may be 
> bootleg. It is 
> much simpler to admit this than to get into a debate over 
> what is legal to 
> copy and what is not. Since 99% of my copies are for personal 
> use I am the 
> only one who sees the label. If I were not running a computer 
> business I may 
> be more willing to "share" some of my copies. When I provide 
> the extra 
> service of making a "work copy" for a customer of one of 
> their CD's or DVD's 
> they know the label will be handwritten.
> 
> I have never heard of a computer business being busted for 
> receiving copies 
> of copyrighted data. Again, legal or illegal is often a hotly 
> debated topic. 
> This means a computer shop can add to its personal library by 
> receiving 
> copies and it not be looked upon near as hard as distributing 
> copies. The 
> officials do not associate receiving with profit taking like 
> they associate 
> distribution with profit taking. I am merely stating my 
> opinion here, not 
> making suggestions.
> 
> I am not advocating abandoning your ideas of nice looking 
> labels. I am just 
> throwing in a twist of humor or a different viewpoint. As I 
> said, printed 
> labels look nice, but to me look "cheap." This opinion surely 
> involves some 
> jealousy on my part because I am too lazy to establish the 
> labeling process. 
> Although in one sense they may look "cheap", they do look 
> lots better than 
> handwritten labels and are much easier to read.
> 
> Is scanning the original label and making an exact copy of it 
> onto the 
> surface of the CD or DVD a feature in this process? If so 
> those could look 
> so good nobody would know it is a copy.
> 
> I will all of you who have taken up this process well in your efforts,
> 
> Chuck 
> 

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Chris Reeves]

Chuck, I think it's important to remember where LightScribe and nice,
printed labels come in handy: impressing a client.

One of the largest clients assigned to me is a client in the movie business
(directly) and every month, we go through about 40 DVDs as they design
production work to design the cups, posters, popcorn bags & trays for movies
like "Alien Vs. Predator" and so on.  Their ability to print out pretty
looking discs to send to their clients (Coca Cola, McDonald's, AMC, Pepsi,
etc.) is very important.

And, after looking at the options, since they don't print heavy volume of
these but what them to look nice, I was pretty happy with the performance of
the R200 to recommend it.

For home purposes, for the most part, I "handwrite" anything that is simple
or for my own use.  But discs which contain backup sets of data where I want
a strong file list, I use the R200 or Lightscribe.  Both of them put out
much more readable text and can display more information about what is on
those discs.  For the client, it looks more professional, and when they want
to know the directory listing on the disc (something the software from Epson
will do automatically) it is a heck of a lot more informative.

I do also print CD labels for every album I've purchased off of ITunes,
because I feel as though that's legitimate, and any audio-book that I burn
to CD instead of putting in an Ipod or PocketPC from Audible.Com.  

But very rarely is it worth the time to waste on a backup copy of a DVD,
etc. hell, the movie title alone would tell you all you need to know.  It's
when you want to put more information on a disc then one line, and you want
durability and a professional look.  

I've burned DVDs of all the software I've purchased online (everything from
CoffeeCup to Acronis to WebCopier Pro, etc.) and I like having a nice label
that lists all the software - plus readable serial numbers if I need them.
My handwriting is crap for that.  But Lightscribe or a printed top make it
easy ;)

CW

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- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'The Hardware List'" 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:52 AM
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs


> DVD Printables.
>
> Example:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/buol4
>

Although I have made a "work copy" of some DVD movies I own to protect the 
original, I have not gotten extensively involved in DVD copying. This means 
my opinion is from inexperience.

To me, those fancy CD and DVD homemade labels are like counterfeit money, 
easy to spot. To me it looks "cheap" to doll up a bootleg copy with a fancy 
label. I simply hand wrote the title on every CD or DVD I have ever copied. 
Although in some people's opinion some of my copies may be bootleg. It is 
much simpler to admit this than to get into a debate over what is legal to 
copy and what is not. Since 99% of my copies are for personal use I am the 
only one who sees the label. If I were not running a computer business I may

be more willing to "share" some of my copies. When I provide the extra 
service of making a "work copy" for a customer of one of their CD's or DVD's

they know the label will be handwritten.

I have never heard of a computer business being busted for receiving copies 
of copyrighted data. Again, legal or illegal is often a hotly debated topic.

This means a computer shop can add to its personal library by receiving 
copies and it not be looked upon near as hard as distributing copies. The 
officials do not associate receiving with profit taking like they associate 
distribution with profit taking. I am merely stating my opinion here, not 
making suggestions.

I am not advocating abandoning your ideas of nice looking labels. I am just 
throwing in a twist of humor or a different viewpoint. As I said, printed 
labels look nice, but to me look "cheap." This opinion surely involves some 
jealousy on my part because I am too lazy to establish the labeling process.

Although in one sense they may look "cheap", they do look lots better than 
handwritten labels and are much easier to read.

Is scanning the original label and making an exact copy of it onto the 
surface of the CD or DVD a feature in this process? If so those could look 
so good nobody would know it is a copy.

I will all of you who have taken up this process well in your efforts,

Chuck 

Re: [H] Label dvd discs

[FORC5]

one place a label ( either paper or direct ) would look good
is a custom Chuck's Computer recovery disk with a new system like most of
the big boys do. I have actually been surprised lately to work on store
bought systems to find the only disk furnished by the manufacturer is a
restore DVD, NO OS CD. I think both would be good. no way to do a repair
with a recovery disk AFAIK.
I used to do that with win98 but have not made one in a long time but may
reconsider with DVD capacity being what it is.
fp
At 04:17 AM 9/15/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poked the stick
with:
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'The Hardware List'"

Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:52 AM
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs

DVD Printables.
Example:

http://tinyurl.com/buol4

Although I have made a "work copy" of some DVD movies I own to
protect the original, I have not gotten extensively involved in DVD
copying. This means my opinion is from inexperience.
To me, those fancy CD and DVD homemade labels are like counterfeit money,
easy to spot. To me it looks "cheap" to doll up a bootleg copy
with a fancy label. I simply hand wrote the title on every CD or DVD I
have ever copied. Although in some people's opinion some of my copies may
be bootleg. It is much simpler to admit this than to get into a debate
over what is legal to copy and what is not. Since 99% of my copies are
for personal use I am the only one who sees the label. If I were not
running a computer business I may be more willing to "share"
some of my copies. When I provide the extra service of making a
"work copy" for a customer of one of their CD's or DVD's they
know the label will be handwritten.
I have never heard of a computer business being busted for receiving
copies of copyrighted data. Again, legal or illegal is often a hotly
debated topic. This means a computer shop can add to its personal library
by receiving copies and it not be looked upon near as hard as
distributing copies. The officials do not associate receiving with profit
taking like they associate distribution with profit taking. I am merely
stating my opinion here, not making suggestions.
I am not advocating abandoning your ideas of nice looking labels. I am
just throwing in a twist of humor or a different viewpoint. As I said,
printed labels look nice, but to me look "cheap." This opinion
surely involves some jealousy on my part because I am too lazy to
establish the labeling process. Although in one sense they may look
"cheap", they do look lots better than handwritten labels and
are much easier to read.
Is scanning the original label and making an exact copy of it onto the
surface of the CD or DVD a feature in this process? If so those could
look so good nobody would know it is a copy.
I will all of you who have taken up this process well in your
efforts,
Chuck 

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Man is a piece of the universe made alive.

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Winterlight]

At 09:52 PM 9/14/2005, you wrote:

DVD Printables.
Example:
http://tinyurl.com/buol4

CW


So the quality on these is as good as name brand, = Memorex, when it comes 
to long term storage?






-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:40 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs

Are these just regular DVD blanks, or do you need to use a special DVD
blank?



At 08:49 PM 9/14/2005, you wrote:
>I agree 100% - use my R200 just for cd/dvd's and it does very, very well. I
>am totally pleased with the guality of text and graphics. The discs look
>every bit as good as commercial - but soak them in water and the ink will
>somewhat dissolve and the surface not as smooth as commercial, but these
are
>minor quibbles - I don't suspect you soak you dvd's regularly - I paid $70
>for mine - my lasers are for anything else. Actually using this thing has
>given me a great deal of respect for Epson - to produce a printer at this
>price point with what it does is great.
>
>If you want high end photo, Epson has an R8xx series, sells for about $560
>Bob
>
>"-Original Message-
>"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
>"[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
>"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:02 PM
>"To: 'The Hardware List'
>"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
>"
>"It comes with a separate "CD Holder" tray that seems to be very
functional.
>"Is it the best printer out there?  Probably not, but it is very
functional,
>"ink cost is fairly cheap, and the output to DVD as a label is stunning.
>"
>"I don't use the Epson for much else, I keep a laser printer for almost all
>"of my daily printing and print almost nothing in color except for CD/DVD
>"labels.. so I can't comment thoroughly on the other part.  But for what it
>"does, it's been a real winner for me.
>"
>"-Original Message-
>"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
>"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:47 PM
>"To: The Hardware List
>"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
>"
>"So your happy with the Epson r200 as a printer for dvd's? Curious is
>"there a separate tray for loading the dvd for printing. Also how is the
>"other uses of the Epson r200 is it good for digital picture printing?
>"Its only $99 at epsons website so it seems kinda cheap for a good
>"printer.
>"
>"-Original Message-
>"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
>"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:03 PM
>"To: 'The Hardware List'
>"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
>"
>"You mean Lightscribe.
>"
>"I use lightscribe discs for clients; it works well, the text quality is
>"very, very good.  However, to burn a lightscribe label in, it takes
>"almost
>"30 minutes per disc, which is a downside.  And it is a black/white (more
>"kind of an off-brown/gold) type label, so monochrome.
>"
>"But they do wear very well and they look impressive to clients.
>"
>"For the most part, I tend to use either a sharpie or my Epson R200 which
>"will print directly onto DVDs via it's CD Print engine for great effect.
>"
>"CW
>"
>"-Original Message-
>"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
>"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:02 PM
>"To: The Hardware List
>"Subject: [H] Label dvd discs
>"
>"Anyone use those dvd discs that you can flip over and label by burning
>"your label to the top of it? How is the overall quality of those dvd's?
>"
>"
>"
>"

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[CW]

Correct.  

CW

-Original message-
From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:26:29 -0500
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs

> At 09:52 PM 9/14/2005, you wrote:
> >DVD Printables.
> >Example:
> >http://tinyurl.com/buol4
> >
> >CW
> 
> So the quality on these is as good as name brand, = Memorex, when it comes 
> to long term storage?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:40 PM
> >To: The Hardware List
> >Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
> >
> >Are these just regular DVD blanks, or do you need to use a special DVD
> >blank?
> >
> >
> >
> >At 08:49 PM 9/14/2005, you wrote:
> > >I agree 100% - use my R200 just for cd/dvd's and it does very, very well. I
> > >am totally pleased with the guality of text and graphics. The discs look
> > >every bit as good as commercial - but soak them in water and the ink will
> > >somewhat dissolve and the surface not as smooth as commercial, but these
> >are
> > >minor quibbles - I don't suspect you soak you dvd's regularly - I paid $70
> > >for mine - my lasers are for anything else. Actually using this thing has
> > >given me a great deal of respect for Epson - to produce a printer at this
> > >price point with what it does is great.
> > >
> > >If you want high end photo, Epson has an R8xx series, sells for about $560
> > >Bob
> > >
> > >"-Original Message-
> > >"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> > >"[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
> > >"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:02 PM
> > >"To: 'The Hardware List'
> > >"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
> > >"
> > >"It comes with a separate "CD Holder" tray that seems to be very
> >functional.
> > >"Is it the best printer out there?  Probably not, but it is very
> >functional,
> > >"ink cost is fairly cheap, and the output to DVD as a label is stunning.
> > >"
> > >"I don't use the Epson for much else, I keep a laser printer for almost all
> > >"of my daily printing and print almost nothing in color except for CD/DVD
> > >"labels.. so I can't comment thoroughly on the other part.  But for what it
> > >"does, it's been a real winner for me.
> > >"
> > >"-Original Message-
> > >"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
> > >"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:47 PM
> > >"To: The Hardware List
> > >"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
> > >"
> > >"So your happy with the Epson r200 as a printer for dvd's? Curious is
> > >"there a separate tray for loading the dvd for printing. Also how is the
> > >"other uses of the Epson r200 is it good for digital picture printing?
> > >"Its only $99 at epsons website so it seems kinda cheap for a good
> > >"printer.
> > >"
> > >"-Original Message-
> > >"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
> > >"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:03 PM
> > >"To: 'The Hardware List'
> > >"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
> > >"
> > >"You mean Lightscribe.
> > >"
> > >"I use lightscribe discs for clients; it works well, the text quality is
> > >"very, very good.  However, to burn a lightscribe label in, it takes
> > >"almost
> > >"30 minutes per disc, which is a downside.  And it is a black/white (more
> > >"kind of an off-brown/gold) type label, so monochrome.
> > >"
> > >"But they do wear very well and they look impressive to clients.
> > >"
> > >"For the most part, I tend to use either a sharpie or my Epson R200 which
> > >"will print directly onto DVDs via it's CD Print engine for great effect.
> > >"
> > >"CW
> > >"
> > >"-Original Message-
> > >"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >"[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali
> > >"Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:02 PM
> > >"To: The Hardware List
> > >"Subject: [H] Label dvd discs
> > >"
> > >"Anyone use those dvd discs that you can flip over and label by burning
> > >"your label to the top of it? How is the overall quality of those dvd's?
> > >"
> > >"
> > >"
> > >"
> 
> 

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Winterlight]

At 08:32 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote:

Correct.

CW


Well, I see where CompUSA has the r200 for 50 bucks this week so it is 
worth trying out. Is it worth looking for the R300? Are the -R blanks 
available in retail stores for any where near this price, or am I going to 
end up ordering bulk?

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Chris Reeves]

Yeah, places like Microcenter & CompUSA carry the printables fairly cheap.

The only difference between the R200 and R300 is that the R300 has a card
reader and display on it for direct photo printing.. which I found
irrelevant since I just wanted to print discs.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:42 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs

At 08:32 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote:
>Correct.
>
>CW

Well, I see where CompUSA has the r200 for 50 bucks this week so it is 
worth trying out. Is it worth looking for the R300? Are the -R blanks 
available in retail stores for any where near this price, or am I going to 
end up ordering bulk?

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Winterlight]

At 09:49 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote:

Yeah, places like Microcenter & CompUSA carry the printables fairly cheap.

The only difference between the R200 and R300 is that the R300 has a card
reader and display on it for direct photo printing.. which I found
irrelevant since I just wanted to print discs.


I guess for 50 bucks after rebates I can't really loose. I will go pick one 
up, and a some disks.

Thanks





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:42 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs

At 08:32 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote:
>Correct.
>
>CW

Well, I see where CompUSA has the r200 for 50 bucks this week so it is
worth trying out. Is it worth looking for the R300? Are the -R blanks
available in retail stores for any where near this price, or am I going to
end up ordering bulk?

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[rls]

Chuck I am not 'emulating' dvd labels. My handwriting/printing isn't the
greatest. I can label a cd with much more readable info that I can write on.
Plus I can add pictures or colors to help me spot a disk. I have enough
saved files, data, etc, that often I can't easily locate what the heck I am
looking for. This way I can. 

"-Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:18 AM
"To: The Hardware List
"Subject: Re: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"
"- Original Message -
"From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"To: "'The Hardware List'" 
"Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:52 AM
"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"
"> DVD Printables.
">
"> Example:
">
"> http://tinyurl.com/buol4
">
"
"Although I have made a "work copy" of some DVD movies I own to protect the
"original, I have not gotten extensively involved in DVD copying. This means
"my opinion is from inexperience.
"
"To me, those fancy CD and DVD homemade labels are like counterfeit money,
"easy to spot. To me it looks "cheap" to doll up a bootleg copy with a fancy
"label. I simply hand wrote the title on every CD or DVD I have ever copied.
"Although in some people's opinion some of my copies may be bootleg. It is
"much simpler to admit this than to get into a debate over what is legal to
"copy and what is not. Since 99% of my copies are for personal use I am the
"only one who sees the label. If I were not running a computer business I
"may
"be more willing to "share" some of my copies. When I provide the extra
"service of making a "work copy" for a customer of one of their CD's or
"DVD's
"they know the label will be handwritten.
"
"I have never heard of a computer business being busted for receiving copies
"of copyrighted data. Again, legal or illegal is often a hotly debated
"topic.
"This means a computer shop can add to its personal library by receiving
"copies and it not be looked upon near as hard as distributing copies. The
"officials do not associate receiving with profit taking like they associate
"distribution with profit taking. I am merely stating my opinion here, not
"making suggestions.
"
"I am not advocating abandoning your ideas of nice looking labels. I am just
"throwing in a twist of humor or a different viewpoint. As I said, printed
"labels look nice, but to me look "cheap." This opinion surely involves some
"jealousy on my part because I am too lazy to establish the labeling
"process.
"Although in one sense they may look "cheap", they do look lots better than
"handwritten labels and are much easier to read.
"
"Is scanning the original label and making an exact copy of it onto the
"surface of the CD or DVD a feature in this process? If so those could look
"so good nobody would know it is a copy.
"
"I will all of you who have taken up this process well in your efforts,
"
"Chuck

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[rls]

Prior to switching to the r200 I used to buy the stick on labels, which are
not cheap in an of themselves, then try to stick them on straight.

I never really liked it, cause unless you do it perfect the cd/dvd is going
to be slightly unbalanced. And it is my opinion that unbalanced cd/dvd's
result in reader/writer wear. So I looked at breaking even in 2 years from
what I paid for labels, plus, I have no more pain in the ass issues with
wasting time trying to stick them on straight.

"-Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
"Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:04 PM
"To: The Hardware List
"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"At 09:49 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote:
">Yeah, places like Microcenter & CompUSA carry the printables fairly cheap.
">
">The only difference between the R200 and R300 is that the R300 has a card
">reader and display on it for direct photo printing.. which I found
">irrelevant since I just wanted to print discs.
"
"I guess for 50 bucks after rebates I can't really loose. I will go pick one
"up, and a some disks.
"Thanks
"
"
"
"
">-Original Message-
">From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
">[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
">Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:42 AM
">To: The Hardware List
">Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
">
">At 08:32 AM 9/15/2005, you wrote:
"> >Correct.
"> >
"> >CW
">
">Well, I see where CompUSA has the r200 for 50 bucks this week so it is
">worth trying out. Is it worth looking for the R300? Are the -R blanks
">available in retail stores for any where near this price, or am I going to
">end up ordering bulk?

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Chris Reeves]

You know, the thing is, I looked through my drive tonight at downloadable
software I've bought over the years..

Some big (like Macromedia Dreamweaver; NetObjects Fusion; etc.) some small
(Ad-Aware SE Pro) some in between (Clark Connect Firewall/Gateway).  The
reality is, in the end, I like buying downloadable software because it means
that I can organize it as I see fit into discs as I see fit.  

Right now, on my HDDs, I have slightly more then 8 GB of Shareware that I
have yet to burn to disc.  Everything from templates to 3DMark05, etc.  And
in the end, I am the one who makes the disc the way I look at it.

I cannot think of the last time I went to a "store" and bought software out
of a box.. it's both more expensive, and more troublesome.  In 2 weeks, when
Nero7 comes out, I'll pick it up, and download and burn it off and I'll have
a nice label because Nero provides good labels to use.  I see nothing wrong
with using their nice JPEG to make my printable disc look nice.  And it's
easily worth the $25 you save to just buy online and download rather then
getting a disc.

Hell, most of my clients do this with even the larger software.. and more
companies are catching on.  Yesterday, I purchased Adobe Creative Suite 2
DVD Edition.. for download:

http://store.adobe.com/store/products/master.jhtml?id=catCreativeSuite

I'm really struggling with why I would run to a store and pickup a box.
Maybe in some cases it's worth it, but for upgrades, even big upgrades, the
ability to download and implement in a day is easy.  

As I've noted before, I build my own "Autorun" programs to list programs
that are on the disc.  I have no problem with that either.

The last disc I 'burned' as a compilation had:  Photoshop; O&O Defrag,
Autopatcher, AudioDVDCreator; Norton; CyberLink PowerDVD Platinum, CloneCD,
UltraISO, TrueImage, DriveImage, Ghost, AAWSE Pro, Surething, DiVX6.  All
legit and paid for.  All nicely sorted into folders where my autorun program
finds them and allows me to chose them from a menu.  

When I burn off software discs with things I've purchased online, I tend to
like nice, pretty informative labels that can tell me everything that is on
a disc.  If I sat around and scribbled with a sharpie just the list above,
my disc would look like crap and I wouldn't have any better idea of what is
on it.  Considering Photoshop ran me almost $400 to buy & download, I'd
prefer a much nicer, prettier looking disc ;)

The purpose of a nice print-to-dvd/cd label system has saved me tons of
headache.  And it is better then stick on labels.

I am aware of people who use it to burn up fake/bogus labels for DVDs they
copy.. that's a waste.. a movie is just a movie, one thing on the disc, a
sharpie would handle that.  I've had DVDs with tons of small shareware
programs.. things like SWFConverter, CoffeeCup Suite, etc. where you've got
a ton of 2MB/10MB programs all stored... then you really need a label to
tell you exactly what is on a disc.  I like knowing that a disc has Nero
6.6.16 vs. another disc that Nero 6.3.25, etc.  Comes in handy.

This year is the first year that I have not purchased a single piece of
software without downloading it.  Not one.  Bought Taxcut online, paid for
the updates online.. CloneCD?  SureThing?  Adobe, Macromedia, heck.. even
Symantec and others are big on pushing downloads.  And it's a great system.


Combine that with labeling up BartPE discs and quarterly burns of real data
(like PSTs, Quickbooks data, etc.) which I like to label as well.. the R200
is a great tool.

I rarely openly sing the praises of something, but the R200 does a brilliant
job.  I had picked up a Lightscribe drive & discs with the hope of using
that as well.. but it takes too long, and it's not as easy on the eye.  I do
use the lightscribe for some clients who need it in a more transportable
format.. but the R200 is genious, and I'd recommend it to anyone (and have!)

CW 

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[rls]

hEY Chris,
Don't know if you know but SureThing Lable software now supports the r200 -
and they have a bunch of nice downloadable Themes, backgrounds and artwork.
Not that Epson's software is not fully functional, just that there is a bit
more to the SureThing package.

"-Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
"Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:09 AM
"To: 'The Hardware List'
"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"You know, the thing is, I looked through my drive tonight at downloadable
"software I've bought over the years..
"
"Some big (like Macromedia Dreamweaver; NetObjects Fusion; etc.) some small
"(Ad-Aware SE Pro) some in between (Clark Connect Firewall/Gateway).  The
"reality is, in the end, I like buying downloadable software because it
"means
"that I can organize it as I see fit into discs as I see fit.
"
"Right now, on my HDDs, I have slightly more then 8 GB of Shareware that I
"have yet to burn to disc.  Everything from templates to 3DMark05, etc.  And
"in the end, I am the one who makes the disc the way I look at it.
"
"I cannot think of the last time I went to a "store" and bought software out
"of a box.. it's both more expensive, and more troublesome.  In 2 weeks,
"when
"Nero7 comes out, I'll pick it up, and download and burn it off and I'll
"have
"a nice label because Nero provides good labels to use.  I see nothing wrong
"with using their nice JPEG to make my printable disc look nice.  And it's
"easily worth the $25 you save to just buy online and download rather then
"getting a disc.
"
"Hell, most of my clients do this with even the larger software.. and more
"companies are catching on.  Yesterday, I purchased Adobe Creative Suite 2
"DVD Edition.. for download:
"
"http://store.adobe.com/store/products/master.jhtml?id=catCreativeSuite
"
"I'm really struggling with why I would run to a store and pickup a box.
"Maybe in some cases it's worth it, but for upgrades, even big upgrades, the
"ability to download and implement in a day is easy.
"
"As I've noted before, I build my own "Autorun" programs to list programs
"that are on the disc.  I have no problem with that either.
"
"The last disc I 'burned' as a compilation had:  Photoshop; O&O Defrag,
"Autopatcher, AudioDVDCreator; Norton; CyberLink PowerDVD Platinum, CloneCD,
"UltraISO, TrueImage, DriveImage, Ghost, AAWSE Pro, Surething, DiVX6.  All
"legit and paid for.  All nicely sorted into folders where my autorun
"program
"finds them and allows me to chose them from a menu.
"
"When I burn off software discs with things I've purchased online, I tend to
"like nice, pretty informative labels that can tell me everything that is on
"a disc.  If I sat around and scribbled with a sharpie just the list above,
"my disc would look like crap and I wouldn't have any better idea of what is
"on it.  Considering Photoshop ran me almost $400 to buy & download, I'd
"prefer a much nicer, prettier looking disc ;)
"
"The purpose of a nice print-to-dvd/cd label system has saved me tons of
"headache.  And it is better then stick on labels.
"
"I am aware of people who use it to burn up fake/bogus labels for DVDs they
"copy.. that's a waste.. a movie is just a movie, one thing on the disc, a
"sharpie would handle that.  I've had DVDs with tons of small shareware
"programs.. things like SWFConverter, CoffeeCup Suite, etc. where you've got
"a ton of 2MB/10MB programs all stored... then you really need a label to
"tell you exactly what is on a disc.  I like knowing that a disc has Nero
"6.6.16 vs. another disc that Nero 6.3.25, etc.  Comes in handy.
"
"This year is the first year that I have not purchased a single piece of
"software without downloading it.  Not one.  Bought Taxcut online, paid for
"the updates online.. CloneCD?  SureThing?  Adobe, Macromedia, heck.. even
"Symantec and others are big on pushing downloads.  And it's a great system.
"
"
"Combine that with labeling up BartPE discs and quarterly burns of real data
"(like PSTs, Quickbooks data, etc.) which I like to label as well.. the R200
"is a great tool.
"
"I rarely openly sing the praises of something, but the R200 does a
"brilliant
"job.  I had picked up a Lightscribe drive & discs with the hope of using
"that as well.. but it takes too long, and it's not as easy on the eye.  I
"do
"use the lightscribe for some clients who need it in a more transportable
"format.. but the R200 is genious, and I'd recommend it to anyone (and
"have!)
"
"CW

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Chris Reeves]

Yep, the whole reason why I upgraded.  They also have a nice system within
it of taking a snapshot of the filestructure on the disc.. it also works
well to take discs I make from Itunes when occasionally I buy an album
(though that's been a bit).

CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rls
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:25 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs

hEY Chris,
Don't know if you know but SureThing Lable software now supports the r200 -
and they have a bunch of nice downloadable Themes, backgrounds and artwork.
Not that Epson's software is not fully functional, just that there is a bit
more to the SureThing package.

"-Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
"Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:09 AM
"To: 'The Hardware List'
"Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs
"
"You know, the thing is, I looked through my drive tonight at downloadable
"software I've bought over the years..
"
"Some big (like Macromedia Dreamweaver; NetObjects Fusion; etc.) some small
"(Ad-Aware SE Pro) some in between (Clark Connect Firewall/Gateway).  The
"reality is, in the end, I like buying downloadable software because it
"means
"that I can organize it as I see fit into discs as I see fit.
"
"Right now, on my HDDs, I have slightly more then 8 GB of Shareware that I
"have yet to burn to disc.  Everything from templates to 3DMark05, etc.  And
"in the end, I am the one who makes the disc the way I look at it.
"
"I cannot think of the last time I went to a "store" and bought software out
"of a box.. it's both more expensive, and more troublesome.  In 2 weeks,
"when
"Nero7 comes out, I'll pick it up, and download and burn it off and I'll
"have
"a nice label because Nero provides good labels to use.  I see nothing wrong
"with using their nice JPEG to make my printable disc look nice.  And it's
"easily worth the $25 you save to just buy online and download rather then
"getting a disc.
"
"Hell, most of my clients do this with even the larger software.. and more
"companies are catching on.  Yesterday, I purchased Adobe Creative Suite 2
"DVD Edition.. for download:
"
"http://store.adobe.com/store/products/master.jhtml?id=catCreativeSuite
"
"I'm really struggling with why I would run to a store and pickup a box.
"Maybe in some cases it's worth it, but for upgrades, even big upgrades, the
"ability to download and implement in a day is easy.
"
"As I've noted before, I build my own "Autorun" programs to list programs
"that are on the disc.  I have no problem with that either.
"
"The last disc I 'burned' as a compilation had:  Photoshop; O&O Defrag,
"Autopatcher, AudioDVDCreator; Norton; CyberLink PowerDVD Platinum, CloneCD,
"UltraISO, TrueImage, DriveImage, Ghost, AAWSE Pro, Surething, DiVX6.  All
"legit and paid for.  All nicely sorted into folders where my autorun
"program
"finds them and allows me to chose them from a menu.
"
"When I burn off software discs with things I've purchased online, I tend to
"like nice, pretty informative labels that can tell me everything that is on
"a disc.  If I sat around and scribbled with a sharpie just the list above,
"my disc would look like crap and I wouldn't have any better idea of what is
"on it.  Considering Photoshop ran me almost $400 to buy & download, I'd
"prefer a much nicer, prettier looking disc ;)
"
"The purpose of a nice print-to-dvd/cd label system has saved me tons of
"headache.  And it is better then stick on labels.
"
"I am aware of people who use it to burn up fake/bogus labels for DVDs they
"copy.. that's a waste.. a movie is just a movie, one thing on the disc, a
"sharpie would handle that.  I've had DVDs with tons of small shareware
"programs.. things like SWFConverter, CoffeeCup Suite, etc. where you've got
"a ton of 2MB/10MB programs all stored... then you really need a label to
"tell you exactly what is on a disc.  I like knowing that a disc has Nero
"6.6.16 vs. another disc that Nero 6.3.25, etc.  Comes in handy.
"
"This year is the first year that I have not purchased a single piece of
"software without downloading it.  Not one.  Bought Taxcut online, paid for
"the updates online.. CloneCD?  SureThing?  Adobe, Macromedia, heck.. even
"Symantec and others are big on pushing downloads.  And it's a great system.
"
"
"Combine that with labeling up BartPE discs and quarterly burns of real data
"(like PSTs, Quickbooks data, etc.) which I like to label as well.. the R200
"is a great tool.
"
"I rarely openly sing the praises of something, but the R200 does a
"brilliant
"job.  I had picked up a Lightscribe drive & discs with the hope of using
"that as well.. but it takes too long, and it's not as easy on the eye.  I
"do
"use the lightscribe for some clients who need it in a more transportable
"format.. but the R200 is genious, and I'd recommend it to anyone (and
"have!)
"
"CW

Re: [H] Label dvd discs

[chuck]

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'The Hardware List'" 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:08 AM
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs



You know, the thing is, I looked through my drive tonight at downloadable
software I've bought over the years..



I have bought some downloadable software lately, also. You do have to watch 
out. Sometimes the deal in a store is better than buying it directly from 
the factory and downloading it or having it shipped. I hate it when the 
manufacturer refuses to sell a product and turns all sales over to third 
party distributors who charge what the market will bear. All those 
distributors have to do is get together and lock down a minimum price. Back 
around 2002 when I believed in Norton, my business became a Symantec 
Partner. Symantec restricted sale of their product to a handful of approved 
distributors. All of these charged more than I could buy the product in 
local stores. How was I to mark it up and compete? It ran me to an 
unapproved distributor. Simply put, a small business can not legally buy 
hardly any product at wholesale cheaper than the large stores sell it at 
retail, especially software.


reality is, in the end, I like buying downloadable software because it 
means

that I can organize it as I see fit into discs as I see fit.



I keep all of my software installation files on my hard drive which I keep 
backed up in at least 3 other places.




I'm really struggling with why I would run to a store and pickup a box.


Unless you save money the only other reason is to stimulate the paper 
industry.


All of the posts in response to my post have been very informative.

Thank you,

Chuck 

Re: [H] Label dvd discs

[Al]

"Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I'm really struggling with why I would run to a store and pickup a box.

Only for the manual, which is becoming extinct anyway.

Al

Re: [H] Label dvd discs

[warpmedia]

"F1" or google.com, if half the users would learn & use them, we 
wouldn't need basic TS or paper manuals!


Foamy's Tech Support II should be out any time now 8)


Al wrote:

"Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm really struggling with why I would run to a store and pickup a box.



Only for the manual, which is becoming extinct anyway.

Al

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[FORC5]

this might push me, have tons of scans for labels and paper
labels are becoming a PITA
using version 4 but see no way in the proggy to specify the r200, but
looking
fp
At 09:25 PM 9/15/2005, rls Poked the stick with:
hEY Chris,
Don't know if you know but SureThing Lable software now supports the r200
-
and they have a bunch of nice downloadable Themes, backgrounds and
artwork.
Not that Epson's software is not fully functional, just that there is a
bit
more to the SureThing package.

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Adversity makes people wise but not rich.

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Winterlight]

I just picked up a R200 at CompUSA yesterday. I got the last one at my 
local store. You can check inventory on line.


 They are 99 minus 10 and two 20 dollar rebates ... so 49 plus tax. So 
nothing really. Price is good through Friday the 17th.



At 06:43 AM 9/16/2005, you wrote:
this might push me, have tons of scans for labels and paper labels are 
becoming a PITA

using version 4 but see no way in the proggy to specify the r200, but looking
fp

At 09:25 PM 9/15/2005, rls Poked the stick with:

hEY Chris,
Don't know if you know but SureThing Lable software now supports the r200 -
and they have a bunch of nice downloadable Themes, backgrounds and artwork.
Not that Epson's software is not fully functional, just that there is a bit
more to the SureThing package.


--
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Adversity makes people wise but not rich.

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Wayne Johnson]

At 12:28 PM 9/16/2005, Winterlight typed:

Price is good through Friday the 17th.


There is no Friday the 17th the rest of this year. ;-)


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 05:04 PM 16/09/2005, Wayne Johnson wrote:

At 12:28 PM 9/16/2005, Winterlight typed:

Price is good through Friday the 17th.


There is no Friday the 17th the rest of this year. ;-)


Guess it's good for quite some time then. :)



T 

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[FORC5]

I hate CompUSA >:-}
I see my Stomper SW supports it but see no way in the sw how it is done,
I imagine there has to be a template for it.
dam them
:-)
At 09:28 AM 9/16/2005, Winterlight Poked the stick with:
I just picked up a R200 at
CompUSA yesterday. I got the last one at my local store. You can check
inventory on line.
 They are 99 minus 10 and two 20 dollar rebates ... so 49 plus tax.
So nothing really. Price is good through Friday the 17th.

At 06:43 AM 9/16/2005, you wrote:
this might push me, have tons of
scans for labels and paper labels are becoming a PITA
using version 4 but see no way in the proggy to specify the r200, but
looking
fp
At 09:25 PM 9/15/2005, rls Poked the stick with:
hEY Chris,
Don't know if you know but SureThing Lable software now supports the r200
-
and they have a bunch of nice downloadable Themes, backgrounds and
artwork.
Not that Epson's software is not fully functional, just that there is a
bit
more to the SureThing package.
--
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Adversity makes people wise but not rich.


-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Since vegetarians eat vegetables, beware of humanitarians

Re: [H] Label dvd discs

[Greg Sevart]

Went to CompUSA today to pick up a R200 on sale...and the Overland Park 
store was OOS. The salesperson suggested I try going to Best Buy (across the 
street) and doing a PM, but I figured my chances were pretty low, so I just 
went home...


Oh well, I'll try again next timethough Microcenter supposedly carries 
them


Greg

- Original Message - 
From: FORC5

To: The Hardware List
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 5:15 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Label dvd discs


I hate CompUSA >:-}

I see my Stomper SW supports it but see no way in the sw how it is done, I 
imagine there has to be a template for it.

dam them
:-)

At 09:28 AM 9/16/2005, Winterlight Poked the stick with:

I just picked up a R200 at CompUSA yesterday. I got the last one at my local 
store. You can check inventory on line.


They are 99 minus 10 and two 20 dollar rebates ... so 49 plus tax. So 
nothing really. Price is good through Friday the 17th.

Re: [H] Label dvd discs

[Wayne Johnson]

At 01:39 AM 9/17/2005, Greg Sevart typed:
Went to CompUSA today to pick up a R200 on sale...and the Overland 
Park store was OOS. The salesperson suggested I try going to Best 
Buy (across the street) and doing a PM, but I figured my chances 
were pretty low, so I just went home...


Oh well, I'll try again next timethough Microcenter supposedly 
carries them


Mwave has them but for $87.97 at 
 while 
Microcenter lists them at $99 
 
& BB has them listed for $99 
 
& CC has them at $79 on sale 
 
so if you can't wait then CC would be your best bet.


Have fun.


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] Label dvd discs

[FORC5]

Newegg for $85
I looked at these again and my TDK's do not sik screen all the way to the
center and a lot of my labels are full face.
Anyone make a full face silk screened DVD ?
fp
At 11:53 PM 9/16/2005, Wayne Johnson Poked the stick with:
At 01:39 AM 9/17/2005, Greg
Sevart typed:
Went to CompUSA today to pick up
a R200 on sale...and the Overland Park store was OOS. The salesperson
suggested I try going to Best Buy (across the street) and doing a PM, but
I figured my chances were pretty low, so I just went home...
Oh well, I'll try again next timethough Microcenter supposedly
carries them
Mwave has them but for $87.97 at
<
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3426247> while
Microcenter lists them at $99
<
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=172648
> & BB has them listed for $99
<
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6355106&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat42100050004&id=1076628578574
> & CC has them at $79 on sale
<
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Epson-Stylus-Photo-R200-Printer-C11C546011-/sem/rpsm/oid/110858/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
> so if you can't wait then CC would be your best bet.
Have fun.

--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
<
http://www.wavijo.com> 

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Money is always there but the pockets change.

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[rls]

Fred,

Sam’s Club has em for $70

 

Don’t know about Stomper but with
SureThing you select a cd/dvd printing printer under card stock selection.

 

Well if you don’t care, the full
screen images will still print to the larger ringed versions, you will just
loose that detail. 

I have some full face dvd’s –
I am pretty sure they are Fuji

 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005
11:57 AM
To: The
 Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Label dvd discs



 

Newegg for $85

I looked at these again and my TDK's do not sik screen all the way to the
center and a lot of my labels are full face.
Anyone make a full face silk screened DVD ?
fp

At 11:53 PM 9/16/2005, Wayne Johnson Poked the stick with:



At 01:39 AM 9/17/2005, Greg Sevart typed:



Went to CompUSA today to pick up a R200 on sale...and the Overland Park store was
OOS. The salesperson suggested I try going to Best Buy (across the street) and
doing a PM, but I figured my chances were pretty low, so I just went home...

Oh well, I'll try again next timethough Microcenter supposedly carries
them


Mwave has them but for $87.97 at < http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3426247>
while Microcenter lists them at $99 <
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=172648
> & BB has them listed for $99 <
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6355106&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat42100050004&id=1076628578574
> & CC has them at $79 on sale < http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Epson-Stylus-Photo-R200-Printer-C11C546011-/sem/rpsm/oid/110858/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
> so if you can't wait then CC would be your best bet.

Have fun.


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH,
 USA 44805
< http://www.wavijo.com>


--

Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Money is always there but the pockets change.

RE: [H] Label dvd discs

[FORC5]

stomper is surething
I'll check out sam's club, even with the full face bug I want to do this
and is one reason I only buy the silk screened disks.
guess the printer needs to be installed first to find this option
fp
thanks
At 07:56 PM 9/18/2005, rls Poked the stick with:

Fred,

Sam’s Club
has em for $70

 

Don’t know
about Stomper but with SureThing you select a cd/dvd printing printer
under card stock selection.

 

Well if you
don’t care, the full screen images will still print to the larger ringed
versions, you will just loose that detail. 

I have some
full face dvd’s – I am pretty sure they are Fuji


 

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Nothing works, and nobody cares.