[H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Winterlight
I have a new build on a new  MSI K8N Neo-V Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce3 250. I 
have flashed it to the latest BIOS.


It runs fine until I put in a Promise TX2 Ultra 133 with drives.. This PCI 
Promise TX2, with it's drives, was working fine in the previous board, I 
pulled it out, put it in the MSI and hooked up two PATA drives. The PC 
POSTs, all be it slowly, but then it won't boot, even to a floppy.


I see all the drives, everything appears to be normal, I have no errors, it 
just ends up at a flashing cursor. Or in the case of a floppy I see


"verifying DMI Pool Data"

. and then it hangs.

If I remove the drives from the Promise, but leave the Promise in the 
board, then it boots. It doesn't matter what hard drive is plugged into the 
Promise, if there is a drive in either channel, it won't boot.


However If I install a  single LiteOn DVD R/W into either Primary or 
Secondary channel on the Promise ...then it boots.


I am using all PATA and have SATA and RAID disabled. I have set up boot 
order correctly.

Everything appears to be OK. What am I missing.



Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Greg Sevart

You're missing voodoo magic.

Seriously. I've used Promise TX2 cards in several computers...they are just 
straight up flaky to begin with. Usually I can find a drive configuration 
that will appease it, but recently I've just started putting my drives on 
other (GbitE) computers.


Greg

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Subject: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133


I have a new build on a new  MSI K8N Neo-V Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce3 250. I 
have flashed it to the latest BIOS.


It runs fine until I put in a Promise TX2 Ultra 133 with drives.. This PCI 
Promise TX2, with it's drives, was working fine in the previous board, I 
pulled it out, put it in the MSI and hooked up two PATA drives. The PC 
POSTs, all be it slowly, but then it won't boot, even to a floppy.


I see all the drives, everything appears to be normal, I have no errors, 
it just ends up at a flashing cursor. Or in the case of a floppy I see


"verifying DMI Pool Data"

. and then it hangs.

If I remove the drives from the Promise, but leave the Promise in the 
board, then it boots. It doesn't matter what hard drive is plugged into 
the Promise, if there is a drive in either channel, it won't boot.


However If I install a  single LiteOn DVD R/W into either Primary or 
Secondary channel on the Promise ...then it boots.


I am using all PATA and have SATA and RAID disabled. I have set up boot 
order correctly.

Everything appears to be OK. What am I missing.







Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Winterlight

At 03:49 PM 12/23/2005, you wrote:

You're missing voodoo magic.

Seriously. I've used Promise TX2 cards in several computers...they are 
just straight up flaky to begin with.


That's odd, I have used them for years and this is the first time I have 
ever had a problem.







 Usually I can find a drive configuration that will appease it, but 
recently I've just started putting my drives on other (GbitE) computers.


Greg

- Original Message - From: "Winterlight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 5:40 PM
Subject: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133


I have a new build on a new  MSI K8N Neo-V Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce3 250. 
I have flashed it to the latest BIOS.


It runs fine until I put in a Promise TX2 Ultra 133 with drives.. This 
PCI Promise TX2, with it's drives, was working fine in the previous 
board, I pulled it out, put it in the MSI and hooked up two PATA drives. 
The PC POSTs, all be it slowly, but then it won't boot, even to a floppy.


I see all the drives, everything appears to be normal, I have no errors, 
it just ends up at a flashing cursor. Or in the case of a floppy I see


"verifying DMI Pool Data"

. and then it hangs.

If I remove the drives from the Promise, but leave the Promise in the 
board, then it boots. It doesn't matter what hard drive is plugged into 
the Promise, if there is a drive in either channel, it won't boot.


However If I install a  single LiteOn DVD R/W into either Primary or 
Secondary channel on the Promise ...then it boots.


I am using all PATA and have SATA and RAID disabled. I have set up boot 
order correctly.

Everything appears to be OK. What am I missing.







RE: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Chris Reeves
Any chance you have a drive on that card with a primary, active partition,
and a drive in your new PC with a primary, active partition?




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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 5:50 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133
> 
> You're missing voodoo magic.
> 
> Seriously. I've used Promise TX2 cards in several computers...they are
> just
> straight up flaky to begin with. Usually I can find a drive configuration
> that will appease it, but recently I've just started putting my drives on
> other (GbitE) computers.
> 
> Greg
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Winterlight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 5:40 PM
> Subject: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133
> 
> 
> >I have a new build on a new  MSI K8N Neo-V Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce3 250.
> I
> >have flashed it to the latest BIOS.
> >
> > It runs fine until I put in a Promise TX2 Ultra 133 with drives.. This
> PCI
> > Promise TX2, with it's drives, was working fine in the previous board, I
> > pulled it out, put it in the MSI and hooked up two PATA drives. The PC
> > POSTs, all be it slowly, but then it won't boot, even to a floppy.
> >
> > I see all the drives, everything appears to be normal, I have no errors,
> > it just ends up at a flashing cursor. Or in the case of a floppy I
> see
> >
> > "verifying DMI Pool Data"
> >
> > . and then it hangs.
> >
> > If I remove the drives from the Promise, but leave the Promise in the
> > board, then it boots. It doesn't matter what hard drive is plugged into
> > the Promise, if there is a drive in either channel, it won't boot.
> >
> > However If I install a  single LiteOn DVD R/W into either Primary or
> > Secondary channel on the Promise ...then it boots.
> >
> > I am using all PATA and have SATA and RAID disabled. I have set up boot
> > order correctly.
> > Everything appears to be OK. What am I missing.
> >
> >




Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Greg Sevart
I should clarify--I've found they are flaky on anything other than Intel 
chipsets.


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To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133



At 03:49 PM 12/23/2005, you wrote:

You're missing voodoo magic.

Seriously. I've used Promise TX2 cards in several computers...they are 
just straight up flaky to begin with.


That's odd, I have used them for years and this is the first time I have 
ever had a problem.










Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread dhs
I have the same Promise Ultra133TX2 controller, but do not use it in as 
extensive a system. However, you may wish to visit the Promise site and get the 
latest drivers for it (b43, I believe). There may even be a new bios for the 
card 
depending on how old you card is. Mine dates to 1999.
Best,
Duncan


On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:40 , Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

>
>I have a new build on a new  MSI K8N Neo-V Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce3 250. I 
>have flashed it to the latest BIOS.
>
>It runs fine until I put in a Promise TX2 Ultra 133 with drives.. This PCI 
>Promise TX2, with it's drives, was working fine in the previous board, I 
>pulled it out, put it in the MSI and hooked up two PATA drives. The PC 
>POSTs, all be it slowly, but then it won't boot, even to a floppy.
>
>I see all the drives, everything appears to be normal, I have no errors, it 
>just ends up at a flashing cursor. Or in the case of a floppy I see
>
>"verifying DMI Pool Data"
>
>. and then it hangs.
>
>If I remove the drives from the Promise, but leave the Promise in the 
>board, then it boots. It doesn't matter what hard drive is plugged into the 
>Promise, if there is a drive in either channel, it won't boot.
>
>However If I install a  single LiteOn DVD R/W into either Primary or 
>Secondary channel on the Promise ...then it boots.
>
>I am using all PATA and have SATA and RAID disabled. I have set up boot 
>order correctly.
>Everything appears to be OK. What am I missing.
>





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RE: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Chris Reeves
About what I was going to check, see if there is a newer BIOS for the
Promise.  Also, any chance your MSI motherboard is overclocked, even a
little?  Promise is really finicky about the bus must be 33Mhz.




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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dhs
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 8:29 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133
> 
> I have the same Promise Ultra133TX2 controller, but do not use it in as
> extensive a system. However, you may wish to visit the Promise site and
> get the
> latest drivers for it (b43, I believe). There may even be a new bios for
> the card
> depending on how old you card is. Mine dates to 1999.
> Best,
> Duncan
> 
> 
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:40 , Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
> 
> >
> >I have a new build on a new  MSI K8N Neo-V Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce3 250.
> I
> >have flashed it to the latest BIOS.
> >
> >It runs fine until I put in a Promise TX2 Ultra 133 with drives.. This
> PCI
> >Promise TX2, with it's drives, was working fine in the previous board, I
> >pulled it out, put it in the MSI and hooked up two PATA drives. The PC
> >POSTs, all be it slowly, but then it won't boot, even to a floppy.
> >
> >I see all the drives, everything appears to be normal, I have no errors,
> it
> >just ends up at a flashing cursor. Or in the case of a floppy I see
> >
> >"verifying DMI Pool Data"
> >
> >. and then it hangs.
> >
> >If I remove the drives from the Promise, but leave the Promise in the
> >board, then it boots. It doesn't matter what hard drive is plugged into
> the
> >Promise, if there is a drive in either channel, it won't boot.
> >
> >However If I install a  single LiteOn DVD R/W into either Primary or
> >Secondary channel on the Promise ...then it boots.
> >
> >I am using all PATA and have SATA and RAID disabled. I have set up boot
> >order correctly.
> >Everything appears to be OK. What am I missing.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Stan Zaske
Go to the Promise web site and download the last TX2 Ultra 133 BIOS and 
driver for your card and that may be all there is to it. I recently did 
the same for my TX2 Ultra 100 and saw a definite improvement in 
performance. @:D>



Winterlight wrote:
I have a new build on a new  MSI K8N Neo-V Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce3 
250. I have flashed it to the latest BIOS.


It runs fine until I put in a Promise TX2 Ultra 133 with drives.. This 
PCI Promise TX2, with it's drives, was working fine in the previous 
board, I pulled it out, put it in the MSI and hooked up two PATA drives. 
The PC POSTs, all be it slowly, but then it won't boot, even to a floppy.


I see all the drives, everything appears to be normal, I have no errors, 
it just ends up at a flashing cursor. Or in the case of a floppy I see


"verifying DMI Pool Data"

. and then it hangs.

If I remove the drives from the Promise, but leave the Promise in the 
board, then it boots. It doesn't matter what hard drive is plugged into 
the Promise, if there is a drive in either channel, it won't boot.


However If I install a  single LiteOn DVD R/W into either Primary or 
Secondary channel on the Promise ...then it boots.


I am using all PATA and have SATA and RAID disabled. I have set up boot 
order correctly.

Everything appears to be OK. What am I missing.





Re: RE: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread winterlight

 Any chance you have a drive on that card with a primary, active partition,
> and a drive in your new PC with a primary, active partition?

no, only one active, and everything else is being setup as it was before... in 
a stable working setup. But I have checked everything a couple of times, and 
even moved drives around. very odd 



Re: Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread winterlight
 
> I should clarify--I've found they are flaky on anything other than Intel 
> chipsets.

Well, it was running just fine on a VIA chipset in a Tyan Tiger dual P3, but it 
probably does have something to do with the chipset.

The whole purpose of the machine is to run a lot of PATA drives. It will suck 
if I get stuck with using four.

BTW Chris MSI fixed that Media Center bug with a patch. 




Re: RE: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread winterlight
 About what I was going to check, see if there is a newer BIOS for the Promise. 

good idea but not in three years

 Also, any chance your MSI motherboard is overclocked, even a  little?  Promise 
is really finicky about the bus must be 33Mhz.

I am not familier with this board but I thought I disabled all the auto stuff 
. better sit down and read the rest of the manual.