Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP

2009-09-04 Thread Soren
To avoid any questions of any kind of which/what media to boot from, you could use a boot manager. Google is you friend, use the most popular one. IRL, it's a matter of 
taste.


If going back from a boot manager to XP, @ command promt /fixmbr usually does 
the job.

//soren

Steve Tomporowski wrote:

Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question!

I've been thinking about this for a while.  Both my machines here have 
XP installed.  I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at 
least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due to 
the erasure of System Restore Files.


But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' 
generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world.


HOWEVER

Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP.  The first and most 
obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about installing 
each on their own drives and going from there?


Just looking for some cute ideas.

Thanks...Steve


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Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP

2009-08-01 Thread FORC5
http://www.standbydisk.com/XV/index.html

try this, even a trial version available I think

I use their backup sw for years now. Saved me more then once.
fp

At 01:47 PM 7/28/2009, Steve Tomporowski Poked the stick with:
Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question!

I've been thinking about this for a while.  Both my machines here have XP 
installed.  I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at least in 
Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due to the erasure of 
System Restore Files.

But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' generally 
have a very narrow viewpoint of the world.

HOWEVER

Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP.  The first and most 
obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about installing each 
on their own drives and going from there?

Just looking for some cute ideas.

Thanks...Steve


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Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP

2009-08-01 Thread Steve Tomporowski

That looks interesting.  Thanks!

FORC5 wrote:

http://www.standbydisk.com/XV/index.html

try this, even a trial version available I think

I use their backup sw for years now. Saved me more then once.
fp

At 01:47 PM 7/28/2009, Steve Tomporowski Poked the stick with:

Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question!

I've been thinking about this for a while.  Both my machines here have XP 
installed.  I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at least in 
Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due to the erasure of 
System Restore Files.

But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' generally 
have a very narrow viewpoint of the world.

HOWEVER

Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP.  The first and most obvious 
ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about installing each on their 
own drives and going from there?

Just looking for some cute ideas.

Thanks...Steve


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[H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP

2009-07-28 Thread Steve Tomporowski

Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question!

I've been thinking about this for a while.  Both my machines here have 
XP installed.  I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at 
least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due to 
the erasure of System Restore Files.


But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' 
generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world.


HOWEVER

Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP.  The first and most 
obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about installing 
each on their own drives and going from there?


Just looking for some cute ideas.

Thanks...Steve


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Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP

2009-07-28 Thread swzaske
Installing on separate drives is a good idea but you would have to go 
into the BIOS every time you want to boot from the other drive. AFAIK



Steve Tomporowski wrote:

Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question!

I've been thinking about this for a while.  Both my machines here have 
XP installed.  I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at 
least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due 
to the erasure of System Restore Files.


But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' 
generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world.


HOWEVER

Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP.  The first and 
most obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about 
installing each on their own drives and going from there?


Just looking for some cute ideas.

Thanks...Steve


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Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP

2009-07-28 Thread swzaske
Oh yeah forgot that when I upgraded my game box from XP Home to Vista 
Home Premium Upgrade I was no longer able to boot into XP (not that I 
wanted to). It used to irk me that every time I booted that I had to 
choose Vista or wait the default 30 seconds before the process 
continued. I came across an interesting little tip about that:


http://windows7center.com/tutorials/skip-the-boot-selection-screen-and-boot-right-into-windows-7/


Steve Tomporowski wrote:

Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question!

I've been thinking about this for a while.  Both my machines here have 
XP installed.  I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at 
least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due 
to the erasure of System Restore Files.


But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' 
generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world.


HOWEVER

Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP.  The first and 
most obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about 
installing each on their own drives and going from there?


Just looking for some cute ideas.

Thanks...Steve


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Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP

2009-07-28 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Nice to know that that is there, I usually found myself just editing the 
Boot.ini file in a text editor.


The thing I was wondering about, if XP and say, Vista overwrite each 
other's system restore files, if you install each operating system on a 
different drive, do they still try to put there system restore files in 
the same place?


I suspect so, as most Windows are pretty anal about that.

Steve

swzaske wrote:
Oh yeah forgot that when I upgraded my game box from XP Home to Vista 
Home Premium Upgrade I was no longer able to boot into XP (not that I 
wanted to). It used to irk me that every time I booted that I had to 
choose Vista or wait the default 30 seconds before the process 
continued. I came across an interesting little tip about that:


http://windows7center.com/tutorials/skip-the-boot-selection-screen-and-boot-right-into-windows-7/ 




Steve Tomporowski wrote:

Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question!

I've been thinking about this for a while.  Both my machines here have 
XP installed.  I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at 
least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due 
to the erasure of System Restore Files.


But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' 
generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world.


HOWEVER

Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP.  The first and 
most obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about 
installing each on their own drives and going from there?


Just looking for some cute ideas.

Thanks...Steve


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Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP

2009-07-28 Thread Tim Lider
Hello Steve,

This is how I did it.  I reduced the size of the volume XP was on.  I think
I used Bootlt to do it.  Then installed Windows 7 on it.  I have 2 volumes
on the primary hard drive and use the boot manager to boot between the 2.
Although, Booting into Windows XP is no longer needed since I use Windows XP
in a virtual Machine now for programs that refuse to work with Windows 7.

Regards,

Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com

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Subject: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP

Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question!

I've been thinking about this for a while.  Both my machines here have 
XP installed.  I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at 
least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due to 
the erasure of System Restore Files.

But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' 
generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world.

HOWEVER

Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP.  The first and most 
obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about installing 
each on their own drives and going from there?

Just looking for some cute ideas.

Thanks...Steve


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Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP

2009-07-28 Thread swzaske
When you boot the Vista or Win7 DVD, setup will find your XP 
installation on one of the drives it detects. Just install on the other 
drive and there shouldn't be any cross-pollination.



Steve Tomporowski wrote:
Nice to know that that is there, I usually found myself just editing 
the Boot.ini file in a text editor.


The thing I was wondering about, if XP and say, Vista overwrite each 
other's system restore files, if you install each operating system on 
a different drive, do they still try to put there system restore files 
in the same place?


I suspect so, as most Windows are pretty anal about that.

Steve

swzaske wrote:
Oh yeah forgot that when I upgraded my game box from XP Home to Vista 
Home Premium Upgrade I was no longer able to boot into XP (not that I 
wanted to). It used to irk me that every time I booted that I had to 
choose Vista or wait the default 30 seconds before the process 
continued. I came across an interesting little tip about that:


http://windows7center.com/tutorials/skip-the-boot-selection-screen-and-boot-right-into-windows-7/ 




Steve Tomporowski wrote:

Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question!

I've been thinking about this for a while.  Both my machines here 
have XP installed.  I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, 
but at least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with 
XP due to the erasure of System Restore Files.


But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' 
generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world.


HOWEVER

Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP.  The first and 
most obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about 
installing each on their own drives and going from there?


Just looking for some cute ideas.

Thanks...Steve


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