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Thank you for this, there they are, although a little bit harder to get to what I want. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:10 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Not yet http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/ mark.dodge wrote: Side question.. I used to be able to go to Tom's and look at the VGA charts to compare a lot of video cards at once I cannot find those same charts and I was wondering if anyone knew if a 7200GS is faster than a 6600GT?? Both being PCI EX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:57 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Not yet :-* At 05:03 PM 11/12/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Bite Me! Master! LOL! Duncan At 16:31 11/12/2008 -0700, you wrote: Resistance is futile padawan fp At 12:37 PM 11/12/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: I will get over this as I move forward. I know this. Just painful in the interim ATM. Best, Duncan -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Never forget: 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.
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I got that point, it's a given that all devices with memory are going to restrict how much of 4GB can be mapped available as RAM. SO if you have 4GB total, 3.5GB usable; 3GB total, 3GB usable since there's 1GB of mapping left over for video ram. Winterlight wrote: At 09:31 PM 11/15/2008, you wrote: Got a link to the KB article? Makes me wonder if that's related to not having PAE since XP32 is most definitely supports a 4GB map: Yes, it supports a 4GB map, but that wasn't my issue. I wrote that all devices with memory, including your video card(s) are deducted from the total of that map.
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At 07:12 PM 11/14/2008, you wrote: No, it's a 4GB wide address space so you'd loose nothing @3GB of RAM with a 512-1024MB card. I disagree, there is lots of articles about this including in MS Knowledge base. I have actually experienced the drop after installing a video card. In Control Panel\System\General Tab I started out with so much ram and then installed a video card with twice as much RAM and when I checked again my system ram had dropped an appropriate amount. Winterlight wrote: At 08:34 AM 11/14/2008, you wrote: heck running 512 and thinking I need to goto gig, except needs more POWER If you are running 32 bit OS, then a one GB card will take another 512megs of addressable memory. this means if you are currently showing 3GB of RAM with a 512meg video card, and you install a 1GB video card then you will reduce your system memory by 512megs. power leads to heat, heat leads to trouble, trouble leads to the dark side fp
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Got a link to the KB article? Makes me wonder if that's related to not having PAE since XP32 is most definitely supports a 4GB map: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEdrv.mspx My current system is PAE enabled, 2GB RAM w/ a 512MB video card (512MB*2 actually) and I'm not showing an RAM loss. Why would I @3GB given the 4GB limit? Winterlight wrote: At 07:12 PM 11/14/2008, you wrote: No, it's a 4GB wide address space so you'd loose nothing @3GB of RAM with a 512-1024MB card. I disagree, there is lots of articles about this including in MS Knowledge base. I have actually experienced the drop after installing a video card. In Control Panel\System\General Tab I started out with so much ram and then installed a video card with twice as much RAM and when I checked again my system ram had dropped an appropriate amount. Winterlight wrote: At 08:34 AM 11/14/2008, you wrote: heck running 512 and thinking I need to goto gig, except needs more POWER If you are running 32 bit OS, then a one GB card will take another 512megs of addressable memory. this means if you are currently showing 3GB of RAM with a 512meg video card, and you install a 1GB video card then you will reduce your system memory by 512megs. power leads to heat, heat leads to trouble, trouble leads to the dark side fp
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At 09:31 PM 11/15/2008, you wrote: Got a link to the KB article? Makes me wonder if that's related to not having PAE since XP32 is most definitely supports a 4GB map: Yes, it supports a 4GB map, but that wasn't my issue. I wrote that all devices with memory, including your video card(s) are deducted from the total of that map.
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Five dollars more and you can get a 512 version -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:05 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Not yet You mentioned a video card is in your future? See here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130098 I just got one, but have not had a chance to install it anywhere. (It seems to be sa good card for the bucks.) From: DHSinclair I have not burned any trons in the new toy.
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Side question.. I used to be able to go to Tom's and look at the VGA charts to compare a lot of video cards at once I cannot find those same charts and I was wondering if anyone knew if a 7200GS is faster than a 6600GT?? Both being PCI EX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:57 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Not yet :-* At 05:03 PM 11/12/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Bite Me! Master! LOL! Duncan At 16:31 11/12/2008 -0700, you wrote: Resistance is futile padawan fp At 12:37 PM 11/12/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: I will get over this as I move forward. I know this. Just painful in the interim ATM. Best, Duncan -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Never forget: 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Do not remove this tag under penalty of death.
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6600 would eat the 7200 for breakfast. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: mark.dodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:59:37 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Not yet Side question.. I used to be able to go to Tom's and look at the VGA charts to compare a lot of video cards at once I cannot find those same charts and I was wondering if anyone knew if a 7200GS is faster than a 6600GT?? Both being PCI EX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:57 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Not yet :-* At 05:03 PM 11/12/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Bite Me! Master! LOL! Duncan At 16:31 11/12/2008 -0700, you wrote: Resistance is futile padawan fp At 12:37 PM 11/12/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: I will get over this as I move forward. I know this. Just painful in the interim ATM. Best, Duncan -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Never forget: 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Do not remove this tag under penalty of death.
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Opps, and too late... I'm used to thinking 32M was a lot grin From: mark.dodge Five dollars more and you can get a 512 version I just got one, but have not had a chance to install it anywhere.
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heck running 512 and thinking I need to goto gig, except needs more POWER :-[ power leads to heat, heat leads to trouble, trouble leads to the dark side :-| fp At 08:12 AM 11/14/2008, Rick Glazier Poked the stick with: Opps, and too late... I'm used to thinking 32M was a lot grin From: mark.dodge Five dollars more and you can get a 512 version I just got one, but have not had a chance to install it anywhere. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Promises and performances vary with hopes and fears.
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At 08:34 AM 11/14/2008, you wrote: heck running 512 and thinking I need to goto gig, except needs more POWER If you are running 32 bit OS, then a one GB card will take another 512megs of addressable memory. this means if you are currently showing 3GB of RAM with a 512meg video card, and you install a 1GB video card then you will reduce your system memory by 512megs. power leads to heat, heat leads to trouble, trouble leads to the dark side fp
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do all cards @ 1 gig draw memory from the system ? or is it related to 32 bit os somehow. I seen a lot of cards that do that but did not think all did. thanks fp At 11:26 AM 11/14/2008, Winterlight Poked the stick with: At 08:34 AM 11/14/2008, you wrote: heck running 512 and thinking I need to goto gig, except needs more POWER If you are running 32 bit OS, then a one GB card will take another 512megs of addressable memory. this means if you are currently showing 3GB of RAM with a 512meg video card, and you install a 1GB video card then you will reduce your system memory by 512megs. power leads to heat, heat leads to trouble, trouble leads to the dark side fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- When someone turns things around, don't get run over.
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At 10:35 AM 11/14/2008, you wrote: do all cards @ 1 gig draw memory from the system ? or is it related to 32 bit os somehow. I seen a lot of cards that do that but did not think all did. thanks fp In a 32 bit system there is only so many memory addresses = 4GB worth. Then you start subtracting any other onboard memory from whatever source because they are using memory addresses. A 1GB card uses 1GB of memory addresses. The ability to use up to I think 2TB of RAM is the primary advantage to 64 bit
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http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/ mark.dodge wrote: Side question.. I used to be able to go to Tom's and look at the VGA charts to compare a lot of video cards at once I cannot find those same charts and I was wondering if anyone knew if a 7200GS is faster than a 6600GT?? Both being PCI EX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:57 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Not yet :-* At 05:03 PM 11/12/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Bite Me! Master! LOL! Duncan At 16:31 11/12/2008 -0700, you wrote: Resistance is futile padawan fp At 12:37 PM 11/12/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: I will get over this as I move forward. I know this. Just painful in the interim ATM. Best, Duncan -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Never forget: 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.
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No, it's a 4GB wide address space so you'd loose nothing @3GB of RAM with a 512-1024MB card. Winterlight wrote: At 08:34 AM 11/14/2008, you wrote: heck running 512 and thinking I need to goto gig, except needs more POWER If you are running 32 bit OS, then a one GB card will take another 512megs of addressable memory. this means if you are currently showing 3GB of RAM with a 512meg video card, and you install a 1GB video card then you will reduce your system memory by 512megs. power leads to heat, heat leads to trouble, trouble leads to the dark side fp
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:-* At 05:03 PM 11/12/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Bite Me! Master! LOL! Duncan At 16:31 11/12/2008 -0700, you wrote: Resistance is futile padawan fp At 12:37 PM 11/12/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: I will get over this as I move forward. I know this. Just painful in the interim ATM. Best, Duncan -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Never forget: 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Do not remove this tag under penalty of death.
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You mentioned a video card is in your future? See here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130098 I just got one, but have not had a chance to install it anywhere. (It seems to be sa good card for the bucks.) From: DHSinclair I have not burned any trons in the new toy.
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Rick, I went and read the link. It is EVGA. In the last 2 yrs I have had spotty service from EVGA video cards. I have RMA'd 3/5, and just tossed 2/5. But, to EVGA's credit, their RMA process is somewhat solid, even though I do not care for their 14-day RMA window! Still their RMA process does work OK. I can not speak to whether whatever I got back was a 'refurb' or 'new.' So far, all my EVGA RMA's are still clicking along doing video. When these cards fail; they get tossed, and, I go shopping for somebody else! I just don't think their product is really strong. But, I will think about it. It is terribly difficult now trying to pick video cards just because there seem to be so many interfaces I just do not understand yet (my problem ATM), and, the death of old PCI and old AGP. I will get over this as I move forward. I know this. Just painful in the interim ATM. Best, Duncan At 11:05 11/12/2008 -0500, you wrote: You mentioned a video card is in your future? See here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130098 I just got one, but have not had a chance to install it anywhere. (It seems to be sa good card for the bucks.) From: DHSinclair I have not burned any trons in the new toy.
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Love the moronic review: Pros: plug n play, its from evga, can play some games ok Cons: fanless gets hotter than the sun Other Thoughts: could be worse could be ati. I'm not up on PowerColor but this is a great price break on a decent ATI card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131095 Rick Glazier wrote: You mentioned a video card is in your future? See here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130098 I just got one, but have not had a chance to install it anywhere. (It seems to be sa good card for the bucks.) From: DHSinclair I have not burned any trons in the new toy.
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Bite Me! Master! LOL! Duncan At 16:31 11/12/2008 -0700, you wrote: Resistance is futile padawan fp At 12:37 PM 11/12/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: I will get over this as I move forward. I know this. Just painful in the interim ATM. Best, Duncan -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Never forget: 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.
[H] Not yet
I have not burned any trons in the new toy. It is mostly built. Do not care for the HS/Fan already! It will be the very first update. Still reading and deciding. Wish for a smooth move from old to new. Perhaps later. I'll post here when it happens. I remember when this last happened. It was 2001. Best, Duncan
