Re: [H] SSD recommendations?
Thanks for the feedback. I just finished reading this absolutely fantastic article on SSDs over at Anandtech: http://anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631 Must read for anyone either wanting to understand just how different SSDs are from spinning hard drives or looking to buy one. His conclusions are that while the Gen 2 Intel SSDs have the best performance (largely due to the properly implementation of TRIM) they are expensive. He has been using a cheaper Vertex in his personal machine for months and loves it. And everything else (especially the SSDs with Jmicron controllers or Samsung NAND chips) is crap. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net wrote: The Vertex is a nice drive. We have 45 of them deployed at work, and they're very fast. I've become somewhat concerned with their reliability though...I've had several of them either die or become quirky. I typically am not one to judge drives based on such a tiny sample size, but SSDs are supposed to be much more reliable than magnetic drives...and I haven't experienced that. For what it's worth, I only buy Intel G2 SSDs now--including for my personal systems. They have faster sequential read performance, and much faster random write performance, but lower sequential write performance (which frankly doesn't much matter). Most real world tests put them ahead of the Vertex. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:33 PM To: hwg Subject: [H] SSD recommendations? I'm about to pull the trigger on an SSD for my laptop and wanted to know what people thought so far. It's going in a Lenovo x200t that I really love. I'm thinking of going with the OCZ Vertex 120GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227395 But I am considering the 60GB version of the same drive. My only hesitation is that AFAIK I only have one internal drive bay so I would need to keep my entire Win 7 install to below 60 GB. That's fine as long as I give up carrying my music collection with me. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US
Re: [H] SSD recommendations?
SSDs get bigger! http://www.tomshardware.com/news/kingston-ssd-now-trim-windows,9510.html On 1/27/2010 7:56 AM, Brian Weeden wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I just finished reading this absolutely fantastic article on SSDs over at Anandtech: http://anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631 Must read for anyone either wanting to understand just how different SSDs are from spinning hard drives or looking to buy one. His conclusions are that while the Gen 2 Intel SSDs have the best performance (largely due to the properly implementation of TRIM) they are expensive. He has been using a cheaper Vertex in his personal machine for months and loves it. And everything else (especially the SSDs with Jmicron controllers or Samsung NAND chips) is crap. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Greg Sevartad...@xfury.net wrote: The Vertex is a nice drive. We have 45 of them deployed at work, and they're very fast. I've become somewhat concerned with their reliability though...I've had several of them either die or become quirky. I typically am not one to judge drives based on such a tiny sample size, but SSDs are supposed to be much more reliable than magnetic drives...and I haven't experienced that. For what it's worth, I only buy Intel G2 SSDs now--including for my personal systems. They have faster sequential read performance, and much faster random write performance, but lower sequential write performance (which frankly doesn't much matter). Most real world tests put them ahead of the Vertex. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:33 PM To: hwg Subject: [H] SSD recommendations? I'm about to pull the trigger on an SSD for my laptop and wanted to know what people thought so far. It's going in a Lenovo x200t that I really love. I'm thinking of going with the OCZ Vertex 120GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227395 But I am considering the 60GB version of the same drive. My only hesitation is that AFAIK I only have one internal drive bay so I would need to keep my entire Win 7 install to below 60 GB. That's fine as long as I give up carrying my music collection with me. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2648 - Release Date: 01/27/10 02:36:00
Re: [H] SSD recommendations?
WOW, ~~$1985 vs --- $64 (less on sale.). I'm stuck with mechanical for a long time, grin Rick Glazier From: Anthony Q. Martin SSDs get bigger! http://www.tomshardware.com/news/kingston-ssd-now-trim-windows,9510.html
Re: [H] SSD recommendations?
$400 is definitely worth it though. The trick is whether or not you can re-arrange your install so that your boot drive can be 80 or 120 GB. No need to have your hundreds of GBs /TBs of data on an SSD. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Rick Glazier rickglaz...@gmail.comwrote: WOW, ~~$1985 vs --- $64 (less on sale.). I'm stuck with mechanical for a long time, grin Rick Glazier From: Anthony Q. Martin SSDs get bigger! http://www.tomshardware.com/news/kingston-ssd-now-trim-windows,9510.html
Re: [H] SSD recommendations?
It is absolutely worth it IMO. And moving the data off is simple. If you have more apps than will fit, probably better to think about using a second PC for some stuff. On 1/27/2010 11:03 AM, Brian Weeden wrote: $400 is definitely worth it though. The trick is whether or not you can re-arrange your install so that your boot drive can be 80 or 120 GB. No need to have your hundreds of GBs /TBs of data on an SSD. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundationhttp://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Rick Glazierrickglaz...@gmail.comwrote: WOW, ~~$1985 vs --- $64 (less on sale.). I'm stuck with mechanical for a long time,grin Rick Glazier From: Anthony Q. Martin SSDs get bigger! http://www.tomshardware.com/news/kingston-ssd-now-trim-windows,9510.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2648 - Release Date: 01/27/10 02:36:00
Re: [H] SSD recommendations?
Yeah, I went with the 160 gig Intel G2 for the boot drive, but data drives are still 500 gig WD's. :) - Original Message From: Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 8:03:22 AM Subject: Re: [H] SSD recommendations? $400 is definitely worth it though. The trick is whether or not you can re-arrange your install so that your boot drive can be 80 or 120 GB. No need to have your hundreds of GBs /TBs of data on an SSD. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Rick Glazier wrote: WOW, ~~$1985 vs --- $64 (less on sale.). I'm stuck with mechanical for a long time, Rick Glazier From: Anthony Q. Martin SSDs get bigger! http://www.tomshardware.com/news/kingston-ssd-now-trim-windows,9510.html
Re: [H] SSD recommendations?
I have more than 2 now, another reason for staying put. Rick Glazier From: Anthony Q. Martin It is absolutely worth it IMO. And moving the data off is simple. If you have more apps than will fit, probably better to think about using a second PC for some stuff.
Re: [H] SSD recommendations?
yeah, that's one way to look at it. But on my other computers I don't worry about having quick loads and bootups/reboots. My main machine has the SSD. I'd like to put on in my tablet, but my Dell XT uses a 1.8 ZIF connector and only a few SSDs fit and they seem to be buggy right now with Win7. On 1/27/2010 11:34 AM, Rick Glazier wrote: I have more than 2 now, another reason for staying put. Rick Glazier From: Anthony Q. Martin It is absolutely worth it IMO. And moving the data off is simple. If you have more apps than will fit, probably better to think about using a second PC for some stuff. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2648 - Release Date: 01/27/10 02:36:00
[H] SSD recommendations?
I'm about to pull the trigger on an SSD for my laptop and wanted to know what people thought so far. It's going in a Lenovo x200t that I really love. I'm thinking of going with the OCZ Vertex 120GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227395 But I am considering the 60GB version of the same drive. My only hesitation is that AFAIK I only have one internal drive bay so I would need to keep my entire Win 7 install to below 60 GB. That's fine as long as I give up carrying my music collection with me. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US
Re: [H] SSD recommendations?
The Vertex is a nice drive. We have 45 of them deployed at work, and they're very fast. I've become somewhat concerned with their reliability though...I've had several of them either die or become quirky. I typically am not one to judge drives based on such a tiny sample size, but SSDs are supposed to be much more reliable than magnetic drives...and I haven't experienced that. For what it's worth, I only buy Intel G2 SSDs now--including for my personal systems. They have faster sequential read performance, and much faster random write performance, but lower sequential write performance (which frankly doesn't much matter). Most real world tests put them ahead of the Vertex. Greg -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:33 PM To: hwg Subject: [H] SSD recommendations? I'm about to pull the trigger on an SSD for my laptop and wanted to know what people thought so far. It's going in a Lenovo x200t that I really love. I'm thinking of going with the OCZ Vertex 120GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227395 But I am considering the 60GB version of the same drive. My only hesitation is that AFAIK I only have one internal drive bay so I would need to keep my entire Win 7 install to below 60 GB. That's fine as long as I give up carrying my music collection with me. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US
