Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...

2007-12-02 Thread j maccraw
XB 360 = 1 in 3 failure rate. There are cheaper ways
to destroy media LOL!

WII on the other hand looks cool, cheaper, has a few
good titles  inovative 
controllers.

PS what? They still make those? ;)

Christopher Fisk wrote:
 On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Veech wrote:
 
 I'm researching getting the kids an XBox 360 for
Christmas. Is the 
 XBox 360 Premium worth the extra bucks? Any pros or
cons to XBox vs 
 other platforms such as PlayStation 2?  They want
Guitar Hero, is XBox 
 the best - or only - platform to buy for this game?

 Finally, is there a way to get any deals or is it
price-locked?

 Thanks for any info...
 
 Guitar Hero 3 is available for PS2, PS3, Wii and
XBox360.  Go with 
 whichever one offers the other features you want.


  

Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs


Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...

2007-11-30 Thread Brian Weeden
You are probably not going to find a Wii. They have been sold out or
at really low inventory for the last year.  If you can find one I
would snag it immediately.  Cheapest one of the 3 and awesome games.
Hell, most people I know are happy with just the pack-in Wii Sports
games.  Add Zelda, Metroid, Super Mario Galaxy, and a whole mess of
other games and it is the best hands-down.  Even my wife, who hates
video games and never plays, got into a game of Wii bowling at a
party.

I would definitely say the premium is worth it, especially if you need
the HD cable and if you have a back catalog of Xbox games.  The HD is
very nice because you can download trailers and stuff on it but not
required as Microsoft demands that game developers assume people don't
have it.  And the killer app for the 360 is Live - it's really an
awesome experience with the headset and really, really easy to do
online gaming.

Like anything else, its the apps that really makes a device.  In this
case, games.  Sony has failed to learn from their many mistakes in the
past and assumed that by appealing to the hardcore gamers with the
technology features in their console it would win.  On launch it was
expensive and had pretty much zero games.  That has been partially
fixed with price drops and a growing number of games but still its not
great.

The only reason I would go with a PS3 is if playing Blu-Ray DVDs was a
feature.  It is the cheapest player on the market (outside of some
special deals).  Likewise you can get a pretty cheap (~$200) HD-DVD
drive addon for the 360.  But either of these consoles will not play
the other format so most people like me are simply waiting for a cheap
player that does both formats.

The PS2 is actually a decent option - its really cheap, very small
package, and has a huge library of pretty cheap games.  Which is
probably why it is outselling the PS3 still :)

On Nov 30, 2007 1:09 PM, Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Veech wrote:

  I'm researching getting the kids an XBox 360 for Christmas. Is the XBox 360
  Premium worth the extra bucks? Any pros or cons to XBox vs other platforms
  such as PlayStation 2?  They want Guitar Hero, is XBox the best - or only -
  platform to buy for this game?
 
  Finally, is there a way to get any deals or is it price-locked?
 
  Thanks for any info...

 Guitar Hero 3 is available for PS2, PS3, Wii and XBox360.  Go with
 whichever one offers the other features you want.


 Christopher Fisk
 --
 I AM NOT THE LAST DON
 I AM NOT THE LAST DON
 Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode AABF21




-- 
Brian Weeden


Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...

2007-11-30 Thread Tharin Olsen
Do you like a certain genre of games? How old are the kids??  I would assume 
they have an inclination about what console they would want, given what they've 
likely seen at the store or Johnny's house down the street. If you haven't yet; 
go into a place like Gamestop, Game Crazy, Electronics Boutique, etc to see 
what the consoles are like. There is some backwards compatability with previous 
gen consoles. Do you already have an older console?

Console pricing is supposed to be fixed, but I have seen lower pricing for 
bundles. Ebay, Craigs List, classified ads, etc. can be a free for all.

The Microsoft Xbox360 probably has most of the best as well as the largest 
selection of titles. Sony's Playstation3 is just getting there but it has some 
outstanding games available now. The Xbox360 is edged out by the PS3 when it 
comes to the raw capability of the hardware. Of course that doesn't mean much 
when you can't get any good games and the competition has more of the better 
games.

I bought a Nintendo Wii on its release date and I think it is excellent. It's 
price compared to what other consoles were going for at their inception was a 
definite plus. The controls are very different from what previous consoles have 
been using since they have gyroscopic sensors that are sensitive to motion. 
Most Wii titles implement this physical element of interaction in some manner. 
The games on Wii probably have the widest range of appeal for people of any 
age. The Wii's graphics and processing power is not near what the Xbox360 and 
PS3 have to offer though. Owning a Wii is probably close to being something 
like a Mac user.  Making something fast and powerful isn't so tough since 
computers will always be moving in that direction, but I've been totally 
captured by the different approach to gaming Nintendo has taken with the Wii. I 
now have to fight with my girlfriend over who can play video games, where as 
before she just used to watch. The Wii can draw in an audience
 that wasn't being reached before.

This link does a good comparison job on showing some of the facts about the 
Wii, Xbox360, and PS3.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/xbox360_ps3_wii.asp

Personally I would choose the Xbox360 over the PS3, but mainly because theres 
some whizbang on the PS3 that wouldn't do me any good and it would put the 
bigger hurt on my pocketbook. 

-Tharin O. 

Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Veech wrote:

 I'm researching getting the kids an XBox 360 for Christmas. Is the XBox 360 
 Premium worth the extra bucks? Any pros or cons to XBox vs other platforms 
 such as PlayStation 2?  They want Guitar Hero, is XBox the best - or only - 
 platform to buy for this game?

 Finally, is there a way to get any deals or is it price-locked?

 Thanks for any info...

Guitar Hero 3 is available for PS2, PS3, Wii and XBox360.  Go with 
whichever one offers the other features you want.


Christopher Fisk
-- 
I AM NOT THE LAST DON
I AM NOT THE LAST DON
  Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode AABF21



Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...

2007-11-30 Thread Brian Weeden
Wii would be me first choice but if I couldn't find one then a 360.

On Nov 30, 2007 3:49 PM, Veech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 heh, that's what I'm trying to determine, PS3 vs XBox 360 vs Wii...  which
 one?

 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...


  On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Veech wrote:
 
  I'm researching getting the kids an XBox 360 for Christmas. Is the XBox
  360 Premium worth the extra bucks? Any pros or cons to XBox vs other
  platforms such as PlayStation 2?  They want Guitar Hero, is XBox the
  best - or only - platform to buy for this game?
 
  Finally, is there a way to get any deals or is it price-locked?
 
  Thanks for any info...
 
  Guitar Hero 3 is available for PS2, PS3, Wii and XBox360.  Go with
  whichever one offers the other features you want.
 
 
  Christopher Fisk
  --
  I AM NOT THE LAST DON
  I AM NOT THE LAST DON
   Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode AABF21





-- 
Brian Weeden


Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...

2007-11-30 Thread Veech
More great info, thanks Tharin!  My kids are older, and I think X-Box 360 
will be the way to go.


- Original Message - 
From: Tharin Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...


Do you like a certain genre of games? How old are the kids??  I would 
assume they have an inclination about what console they would want, given 
what they've likely seen at the store or Johnny's house down the street. 
If you haven't yet; go into a place like Gamestop, Game Crazy, Electronics 
Boutique, etc to see what the consoles are like. There is some backwards 
compatability with previous gen consoles. Do you already have an older 
console?


Console pricing is supposed to be fixed, but I have seen lower pricing for 
bundles. Ebay, Craigs List, classified ads, etc. can be a free for all.


The Microsoft Xbox360 probably has most of the best as well as the 
largest selection of titles. Sony's Playstation3 is just getting there but 
it has some outstanding games available now. The Xbox360 is edged out by 
the PS3 when it comes to the raw capability of the hardware. Of course 
that doesn't mean much when you can't get any good games and the 
competition has more of the better games.


I bought a Nintendo Wii on its release date and I think it is excellent. 
It's price compared to what other consoles were going for at their 
inception was a definite plus. The controls are very different from what 
previous consoles have been using since they have gyroscopic sensors that 
are sensitive to motion. Most Wii titles implement this physical element 
of interaction in some manner. The games on Wii probably have the widest 
range of appeal for people of any age. The Wii's graphics and processing 
power is not near what the Xbox360 and PS3 have to offer though. Owning a 
Wii is probably close to being something like a Mac user.  Making 
something fast and powerful isn't so tough since computers will always be 
moving in that direction, but I've been totally captured by the different 
approach to gaming Nintendo has taken with the Wii. I now have to fight 
with my girlfriend over who can play video games, where as before she just 
used to watch. The Wii can draw in an audience

that wasn't being reached before.

This link does a good comparison job on showing some of the facts about 
the Wii, Xbox360, and PS3.


http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/xbox360_ps3_wii.asp

Personally I would choose the Xbox360 over the PS3, but mainly because 
theres some whizbang on the PS3 that wouldn't do me any good and it would 
put the bigger hurt on my pocketbook.


-Tharin O.

Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Veech 
wrote:


I'm researching getting the kids an XBox 360 for Christmas. Is the XBox 
360
Premium worth the extra bucks? Any pros or cons to XBox vs other 
platforms
such as PlayStation 2?  They want Guitar Hero, is XBox the best - or 
only -

platform to buy for this game?

Finally, is there a way to get any deals or is it price-locked?

Thanks for any info...


Guitar Hero 3 is available for PS2, PS3, Wii and XBox360.  Go with
whichever one offers the other features you want.


Christopher Fisk
--
I AM NOT THE LAST DON
I AM NOT THE LAST DON
 Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode AABF21





Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...

2007-11-30 Thread Veech

Great info Brian, thank you!

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...



You are probably not going to find a Wii. They have been sold out or
at really low inventory for the last year.  If you can find one I
would snag it immediately.  Cheapest one of the 3 and awesome games.
Hell, most people I know are happy with just the pack-in Wii Sports
games.  Add Zelda, Metroid, Super Mario Galaxy, and a whole mess of
other games and it is the best hands-down.  Even my wife, who hates
video games and never plays, got into a game of Wii bowling at a
party.

I would definitely say the premium is worth it, especially if you need
the HD cable and if you have a back catalog of Xbox games.  The HD is
very nice because you can download trailers and stuff on it but not
required as Microsoft demands that game developers assume people don't
have it.  And the killer app for the 360 is Live - it's really an
awesome experience with the headset and really, really easy to do
online gaming.

Like anything else, its the apps that really makes a device.  In this
case, games.  Sony has failed to learn from their many mistakes in the
past and assumed that by appealing to the hardcore gamers with the
technology features in their console it would win.  On launch it was
expensive and had pretty much zero games.  That has been partially
fixed with price drops and a growing number of games but still its not
great.

The only reason I would go with a PS3 is if playing Blu-Ray DVDs was a
feature.  It is the cheapest player on the market (outside of some
special deals).  Likewise you can get a pretty cheap (~$200) HD-DVD
drive addon for the 360.  But either of these consoles will not play
the other format so most people like me are simply waiting for a cheap
player that does both formats.

The PS2 is actually a decent option - its really cheap, very small
package, and has a huge library of pretty cheap games.  Which is
probably why it is outselling the PS3 still :)

On Nov 30, 2007 1:09 PM, Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Veech wrote:

 I'm researching getting the kids an XBox 360 for Christmas. Is the XBox 
 360
 Premium worth the extra bucks? Any pros or cons to XBox vs other 
 platforms
 such as PlayStation 2?  They want Guitar Hero, is XBox the best - or 
 only -

 platform to buy for this game?

 Finally, is there a way to get any deals or is it price-locked?

 Thanks for any info...

Guitar Hero 3 is available for PS2, PS3, Wii and XBox360.  Go with
whichever one offers the other features you want.


Christopher Fisk
--
I AM NOT THE LAST DON
I AM NOT THE LAST DON
Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode AABF21





--
Brian Weeden 




Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...

2007-11-30 Thread Veech
They have stated they want the X-Box and the Guitar Hero game.  Once I 
discovered GH is available on 3 platforms, I decided to investigate which is 
the best one to get.



- Original Message - 
From: Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...




Veech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

heh, that's what I'm trying to determine, PS3 vs XBox 360 vs Wii... 
which

one?



 On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Veech wrote:
 I'm researching getting the kids an XBox 360 for Christmas.


Ask them?, is that an option?  They'll know what they want, most likely.
Since they want Guitar Hero, it's not going to be a surprise.

best,
al 




Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...

2007-11-30 Thread Al

Veech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 heh, that's what I'm trying to determine, PS3 vs XBox 360 vs Wii...  which 
 one?

  On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Veech wrote:
  I'm researching getting the kids an XBox 360 for Christmas.

Ask them?, is that an option?  They'll know what they want, most likely.
Since they want Guitar Hero, it's not going to be a surprise. 

best,
al


Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...

2007-11-30 Thread Veech
heh, that's what I'm trying to determine, PS3 vs XBox 360 vs Wii...  which 
one?
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...



On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Veech wrote:

I'm researching getting the kids an XBox 360 for Christmas. Is the XBox 
360 Premium worth the extra bucks? Any pros or cons to XBox vs other 
platforms such as PlayStation 2?  They want Guitar Hero, is XBox the 
best - or only - platform to buy for this game?


Finally, is there a way to get any deals or is it price-locked?

Thanks for any info...


Guitar Hero 3 is available for PS2, PS3, Wii and XBox360.  Go with 
whichever one offers the other features you want.



Christopher Fisk
--
I AM NOT THE LAST DON
I AM NOT THE LAST DON
 Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode AABF21 




Re: [H] X-Box 360 questions...

2007-11-30 Thread Christopher Fisk

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Veech wrote:

I'm researching getting the kids an XBox 360 for Christmas. Is the XBox 360 
Premium worth the extra bucks? Any pros or cons to XBox vs other platforms 
such as PlayStation 2?  They want Guitar Hero, is XBox the best - or only - 
platform to buy for this game?


Finally, is there a way to get any deals or is it price-locked?

Thanks for any info...


Guitar Hero 3 is available for PS2, PS3, Wii and XBox360.  Go with 
whichever one offers the other features you want.



Christopher Fisk
--
I AM NOT THE LAST DON
I AM NOT THE LAST DON
Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode AABF21


[H] X-Box 360 questions...

2007-11-29 Thread Veech
I'm researching getting the kids an XBox 360 for Christmas. Is the XBox 360 
Premium worth the extra bucks? Any pros or cons to XBox vs other platforms 
such as PlayStation 2?  They want Guitar Hero, is XBox the best - or only - 
platform to buy for this game?


Finally, is there a way to get any deals or is it price-locked?

Thanks for any info...