[H] activation of XP questions

[rls]

Really don't want to have to go through the re-activation on XP - have new
CPU (but both are AMD 939 - one is just a bit faster though), Motherboard,
video card, and memory // with motherboard will also be new NIC. 

So I could stage this install if it would help.

Before I start, would it help if I uninstalled the NIC before the swap?


Ok I can start with the new motherboard and use the old cpu, current cd/dvd
drives, same amt of memory amount ( I guess its not brand just amount will
install 1 stick of 1 gig not 2 @ 512) , obviously use the old hard drive.

According to my understanding of reactivation scheme - 
to start with it will be new video
New nic,
IDE controller serial number

So my number is only 3 and I am thinking that my cpu change should only
account for 1 not 2 points that I might include that in the first iteration.

Then in the course of the week add the additional memory, swap a DVD-ram for
the cd writer and DVD player. I have seen no references that one has to wait
any predetermined amount of time between updates.

Am I missing something?  Any other suggestions?

Thanks

[H] activation of XP questions

[Robert Turnbull]

>Why does everybody use the phone...why not the online activation?

Here's a scrap that I picked up somewhere - not sure where:

When you activate windows it gives you the option to do it automatically or 
by phone. If you do it automatically your computer sends an ID code to 
Microsoft and if the code is accepted Microsoft sends back an activation 
code which is stored in an encrypted file in the system32 folder (wpa.dbl)
To get around this you should choose to activate by phone. This will open a 
window giving you a phone number to call, an ID number, and a set of blocks 
to type in the [WPA] key. When you call the number you get an automated 
system that will ask you to read the ID number. If it accepts the number it 
will give you the [WPA] key a few numbers at a time. it will ask you if you 
got the numbers after each set and give you the option to have them 
repeated. Just write down the numbers the first time and ask to have them 
repeated and type them in the appropriate box the second time. Keep doing 
that until you have all the numbers, and then activate your windows 
installation. Keep the [WPA] key with your installation disk and you can 
use it to activate windows as many times as you want. Just choose activate 
by phone and type in the [WPA key you saved].




Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada

[H] Activation of XP questions

[Robert Turnbull]

Here is a clip from WXPnews this morning with another variation on this theme:


.. we talked about reformatting the hard disk and reinstalling XP. But do 
you have to go through the whole product activation hassle again when you 
do that? Actually, there's a way around it. Before you wipe out the current 
installation, backup your product activation files and then you can restore 
them to the new installation. Here's how:

   * Right click Start and click Explore.
   * In Windows Explorer, navigate to \WINDOWS\System32\ (usually on the 
c: drive but may be on a different drive depending on where you installed XP).
   * Copy the following files to a floppy, CD or second hard disk: 
wpa.dbl, wpa.bak.
To restore the files, start the computer in Safe Mode and copy them to the 
same directory (\WINDOWS\System32).




Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada

Re: [H] activation of XP questions

[Greg Sevart]

Yeah--just put all of your shit in at once and tell MS you upgraded. Seems 
like a whole lot less work than all that crap.


Greg

- Original Message - 
From: "rls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'The Hardware List'" 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 7:23 PM
Subject: [H] activation of XP questions



Really don't want to have to go through the re-activation on XP - have new
CPU (but both are AMD 939 - one is just a bit faster though), Motherboard,
video card, and memory // with motherboard will also be new NIC.

So I could stage this install if it would help.

Before I start, would it help if I uninstalled the NIC before the swap?


Ok I can start with the new motherboard and use the old cpu, current 
cd/dvd

drives, same amt of memory amount ( I guess its not brand just amount will
install 1 stick of 1 gig not 2 @ 512) , obviously use the old hard drive.

According to my understanding of reactivation scheme -
to start with it will be new video
New nic,
IDE controller serial number

So my number is only 3 and I am thinking that my cpu change should only
account for 1 not 2 points that I might include that in the first 
iteration.


Then in the course of the week add the additional memory, swap a DVD-ram 
for
the cd writer and DVD player. I have seen no references that one has to 
wait

any predetermined amount of time between updates.

Am I missing something?  Any other suggestions?

Thanks

Re: [H] activation of XP questions

[FORC5]

anyone of those alone could trigger re activation. mine did
with just a video card
>:-}
At 05:23 PM 9/10/2005, rls Poked the stick with:
Really don't want to have to go
through the re-activation on XP - have new
CPU (but both are AMD 939 - one is just a bit faster though),
Motherboard,
video card, and memory // with motherboard will also be new NIC.

So I could stage this install if it would help.
Before I start, would it help if I uninstalled the NIC before the
swap?

Ok I can start with the new motherboard and use the old cpu, current
cd/dvd
drives, same amt of memory amount ( I guess its not brand just amount
will
install 1 stick of 1 gig not 2 @ 512) , obviously use the old hard
drive.
According to my understanding of reactivation scheme - 
to start with it will be new video
New nic,
IDE controller serial number
So my number is only 3 and I am thinking that my cpu change should
only
account for 1 not 2 points that I might include that in the first
iteration.
Then in the course of the week add the additional memory, swap a DVD-ram
for
the cd writer and DVD player. I have seen no references that one has to
wait
any predetermined amount of time between updates.
Am I missing something?  Any other suggestions?
Thanks

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Fear is the tax that conscience pays to guilt.

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[Chris Reeves]

Yep.  Just do it once, call MS if you have to.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 8:30 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] activation of XP questions

anyone of those alone could trigger re activation. mine did with just a
video card
>:-}

At 05:23 PM 9/10/2005, rls Poked the stick with:

Really don't want to have to go through the re-activation on XP - have new
CPU (but both are AMD 939 - one is just a bit faster though), Motherboard,
video card, and memory // with motherboard will also be new NIC. 

So I could stage this install if it would help.

Before I start, would it help if I uninstalled the NIC before the swap?


Ok I can start with the new motherboard and use the old cpu, current cd/dvd
drives, same amt of memory amount ( I guess its not brand just amount will
install 1 stick of 1 gig not 2 @ 512) , obviously use the old hard drive.

According to my understanding of reactivation scheme - 
to start with it will be new video
New nic,
IDE controller serial number

So my number is only 3 and I am thinking that my cpu change should only
account for 1 not 2 points that I might include that in the first iteration.

Then in the course of the week add the additional memory, swap a DVD-ram for
the cd writer and DVD player. I have seen no references that one has to wait
any predetermined amount of time between updates.

Am I missing something?  Any other suggestions?

Thanks
-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Fear is the tax that conscience pays to guilt.

Re: [H] activation of XP questions

[chuck]

- Original Message - 
From: "rls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'The Hardware List'" 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 8:23 PM
Subject: [H] activation of XP questions


Then in the course of the week add the additional memory, swap a DVD-ram 
for
the cd writer and DVD player. I have seen no references that one has to 
wait

any predetermined amount of time between updates.

Am I missing something?  Any other suggestions?



It is not a question of re-activation but of whether you will have to call 
Microsoft or not. You will have to reactivate any clean (I have no 
experience with overlays as all of my installs are clean, on a formatted 
partition) install of Windows XP.


The points system has meant nothing to me. I often have to call Microsoft 
when there is absolutely no change in hardware. If you are not ready to call 
Microsoft, do not do the install, is my advice.


Chuck 

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[rls]

The only reason I am trying to avoid this is that I have already reactivated
the box 3 times this year, and I heard on the 4th you have to explain
yourself which I would like to avoid.

"-Original Message-
"From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
"Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:02 PM
"To: The Hardware List
"Subject: Re: [H] activation of XP questions
"
"Yeah--just put all of your shit in at once and tell MS you upgraded. Seems
"like a whole lot less work than all that crap.
"
"Greg
"
"- Original Message -
"From: "rls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"To: "'The Hardware List'" 
"Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 7:23 PM
"Subject: [H] activation of XP questions
"
"
"> Really don't want to have to go through the re-activation on XP - have
"new
"> CPU (but both are AMD 939 - one is just a bit faster though),
"Motherboard,
"> video card, and memory // with motherboard will also be new NIC.
">
"> So I could stage this install if it would help.
">
"> Before I start, would it help if I uninstalled the NIC before the swap?
">
">
"> Ok I can start with the new motherboard and use the old cpu, current
"> cd/dvd
"> drives, same amt of memory amount ( I guess its not brand just amount
"will
"> install 1 stick of 1 gig not 2 @ 512) , obviously use the old hard drive.
">
"> According to my understanding of reactivation scheme -
"> to start with it will be new video
"> New nic,
"> IDE controller serial number
">
"> So my number is only 3 and I am thinking that my cpu change should only
"> account for 1 not 2 points that I might include that in the first
"> iteration.
">
"> Then in the course of the week add the additional memory, swap a DVD-ram
"> for
"> the cd writer and DVD player. I have seen no references that one has to
"> wait
"> any predetermined amount of time between updates.
">
"> Am I missing something?  Any other suggestions?
">
"> Thanks
">
">

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[Wayne Johnson]

At 07:18 PM 9/11/2005, rls typed:

The only reason I am trying to avoid this is that I have already reactivated
the box 3 times this year, and I heard on the 4th you have to explain
yourself which I would like to avoid.


Yikes. I never heard of anyone having to do it more than twice til now.

Good Luck


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[Winterlight]

Why does everybody use the phone...why not the online activation?

At 04:52 PM 9/11/2005, you wrote:

At 07:18 PM 9/11/2005, rls typed:

The only reason I am trying to avoid this is that I have already reactivated
the box 3 times this year, and I heard on the 4th you have to explain
yourself which I would like to avoid.


Yikes. I never heard of anyone having to do it more than twice til now.

Good Luck


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[Chris Reeves]

We're assuming that online activation fails, and prompts you to contact
Microsoft by phone.

CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 6:57 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] activation of XP questions

Why does everybody use the phone...why not the online activation?

At 04:52 PM 9/11/2005, you wrote:
>At 07:18 PM 9/11/2005, rls typed:
>>The only reason I am trying to avoid this is that I have already
reactivated
>>the box 3 times this year, and I heard on the 4th you have to explain
>>yourself which I would like to avoid.
>
>Yikes. I never heard of anyone having to do it more than twice til now.
>
>Good Luck
>
>
>--+--
>Wayne D. Johnson
>Ashland, OH, USA 44805
><http://www.wavijo.com>

Re: [H] activation of XP questions

[Al]

Robert Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's a scrap that I picked up somewhere - not sure where:
> 
> When you activate windows it gives you the option to do it automatically or 
> by phone. If you do it automatically your computer sends an ID code to 
> Microsoft and if the code is accepted Microsoft sends back an activation 
> code which is stored in an encrypted file in the system32 folder (wpa.dbl)
> To get around this you should choose to activate by phone. This will open a 
> window giving you a phone number to call, an ID number, and a set of blocks 
> to type in the [WPA] key. When you call the number you get an automated 
> system that will ask you to read the ID number. If it accepts the number it 
> will give you the [WPA] key a few numbers at a time. it will ask you if you 
> got the numbers after each set and give you the option to have them 
> repeated. Just write down the numbers the first time and ask to have them 
> repeated and type them in the appropriate box the second time. Keep doing 
> that until you have all the numbers, and then activate your windows 
> installation. Keep the [WPA] key with your installation disk and you can 
> use it to activate windows as many times as you want. Just choose activate 
> by phone and type in the [WPA key you saved].

This doesn't work, or at least It didn't work for me. The ID number (the
one you give MS) is different every time, making the number MS gives you
different,  every time.

Al

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[rls]

that until you have all the numbers, and then activate your windows
"> installation. Keep the [WPA] key with your installation disk and you can
"> use it to activate windows as many times as you want. Just choose
"activate
"> by phone and type in the [WPA key you saved].
"
"This doesn't work, or at least It didn't work for me. The ID number (the
"one you give MS) is different every time, making the number MS gives you
"different,  every time.
"
"Al

That's what I think, I went through the trouble of writing it down, but as I
thought about it, I would guess MS has the 40 number generation thing tied
to the date and probably something else.

Bob

Re: [H] activation of XP questions

[Winterlight]

At 05:53 PM 9/11/2005, you wrote:

>Why does everybody use the phone...why not the online activation?

Here's a scrap that I picked up somewhere - not sure where:

When you activate windows it gives you the option to do it automatically 
or by phone.


So the first time is automated on the phone but you do it a week a month or 
later.. what happens then?

Does somebody come on the phone and start grilling you?

Re: [H] activation of XP questions

[FORC5]

you can save the file but AFAIK only works on clean
reinstalls with NO HW changes, never tested it.
I still think mother may I play SUCKS
has gone way past protection
fp
At 05:53 PM 9/11/2005, Robert Turnbull Poked the stick with:
>Why does everybody use the
phone...why not the online activation?
Here's a scrap that I picked up somewhere - not sure where:
When you activate windows it gives you the option to do it automatically
or by phone. If you do it automatically your computer sends an ID code to
Microsoft and if the code is accepted Microsoft sends back an activation
code which is stored in an encrypted file in the system32 folder
(wpa.dbl)
To get around this you should choose to activate by phone. This will open
a window giving you a phone number to call, an ID number, and a set of
blocks to type in the [WPA] key. When you call the number you get an
automated system that will ask you to read the ID number. If it accepts
the number it will give you the [WPA] key a few numbers at a time. it
will ask you if you got the numbers after each set and give you the
option to have them repeated. Just write down the numbers the first time
and ask to have them repeated and type them in the appropriate box the
second time. Keep doing that until you have all the numbers, and then
activate your windows installation. Keep the [WPA] key with your
installation disk and you can use it to activate windows as many times as
you want. Just choose activate by phone and type in the [WPA key you
saved].

Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada


-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Price of admission - your premise.

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[Chris Reeves]

They don't grill you.  The automated system informs you there is a reason
why you can't activate online (like you normally would) and that it cannot
activate you by phone.  So, it passes you off to a customer rep.  You
briefly explain why you're re-activating (short) and guarantee to them that
this software is only being used on one PC, and that's it.

CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:24 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] activation of XP questions

At 05:53 PM 9/11/2005, you wrote:
> >Why does everybody use the phone...why not the online activation?
>
>Here's a scrap that I picked up somewhere - not sure where:
>
>When you activate windows it gives you the option to do it automatically 
>or by phone.

So the first time is automated on the phone but you do it a week a month or 
later.. what happens then?
Does somebody come on the phone and start grilling you?

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[James Maki]

Personal experience with "re-activation" of Windows XP Pro Upgrade:

Fresh install on a new system after about 6 months to a year --
 Activates via internet with no problem.
 (I have done this 3 or 4 times with the same XP package)
 P.S. Have never had a re-activation issue with minor hardware upgrades.

>From MS Action pak with multiple license:
When activating a "3rd" time on a 2 license number, had to "phone
home." Told the representative that this was the 3rd activation on this
number, but the previous hardware had been replaced and was no longer in
use. No problem. I was not "grilled" or given the 3rd degree. My simple
explanation that the old hardware had been replaced was sufficient to get
the software activated again. 

While I completely agree with the whole notion that product activation
sucks, MS has made it relatively easy and painless (at least in my perhaps
limited experience).

Jim Maki
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


> -Original Message-
> From: Winterlight
 
> At 05:53 PM 9/11/2005, you wrote:
> > >Why does everybody use the phone...why not the online activation?
> >
> >Here's a scrap that I picked up somewhere - not sure where:
> >
> >When you activate windows it gives you the option to do it 
> automatically 
> >or by phone.
> 
> So the first time is automated on the phone but you do it a 
> week a month or 
> later.. what happens then?
> Does somebody come on the phone and start grilling you?

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[Wayne Johnson]

At 11:16 PM 9/11/2005, Chris Reeves typed:

They don't grill you.  The automated system informs you there is a reason
why you can't activate online (like you normally would) and that it cannot
activate you by phone.  So, it passes you off to a customer rep.  You
briefly explain why you're re-activating (short) and guarantee to them that
this software is only being used on one PC, and that's it.


On this machine I did a driver upgrade when we had a power surge that 
barely got past the backups pro & then when the machine rebooted it 
told me that I needed to reactivate even tho I made NO hardware 
changes. I called MSFT & the gal swore that I had changed some 
hardware out when all I did was upgrade a driver but she activated me 
anyway. I was ready to go off if they didn't re-activate and I didn't 
care for the way the gal insisted that I did something wrong but 
since they did reactivate everything was ok other than the wasted 
time to make the phone call.  Have had clients that had to reactivate 
because of hardware changes & those phone calls were easier.


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[Chris Reeves]

I have had only one instance where MS told someone I know to just bugger off
they wouldn't re-activate them.. they had "re-activated" four tmes in a
year.  It was mostly just a matter of continual upgrading + 1 screw up; they
started with a 3500+ AMD 939 (no SLI, just a Foxconn NFU8KK Nforce4 Ultra
MB).. upgraded with an audigy4 & new video card.. prompted for
re-activation.  Added a RAID-1 250/2 array, re-activated then as well.
Upgraded to a 4400+ Dual Core and replaced video card to a 7800GTX, asked to
re-activate again..

Then, they screwed up the cabling, burned up a 7800GTX (had wiring fall into
it) replaced the board (with the exact same board, they kind of like it,
can't blame them, it's fine for a NF4 Ultra) and another (different brand)
7800GTX, etc. 

Tried to re-activate, MS told them to go take a hike.. they found their own
solution for that problem.

CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:16 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] activation of XP questions

At 11:16 PM 9/11/2005, Chris Reeves typed:
>They don't grill you.  The automated system informs you there is a reason
>why you can't activate online (like you normally would) and that it cannot
>activate you by phone.  So, it passes you off to a customer rep.  You
>briefly explain why you're re-activating (short) and guarantee to them that
>this software is only being used on one PC, and that's it.

On this machine I did a driver upgrade when we had a power surge that 
barely got past the backups pro & then when the machine rebooted it 
told me that I needed to reactivate even tho I made NO hardware 
changes. I called MSFT & the gal swore that I had changed some 
hardware out when all I did was upgrade a driver but she activated me 
anyway. I was ready to go off if they didn't re-activate and I didn't 
care for the way the gal insisted that I did something wrong but 
since they did reactivate everything was ok other than the wasted 
time to make the phone call.  Have had clients that had to reactivate 
because of hardware changes & those phone calls were easier.

--+--
Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
<http://www.wavijo.com> 

Re: [H] activation of XP questions

[chuck]

- Original Message - 
From: "Al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [H] activation of XP questions




This doesn't work, or at least It didn't work for me. The ID number (the
one you give MS) is different every time, making the number MS gives you
different,  every time.



Let's think about this. The main reason activation has failed for me was due 
to some goofball thing the computer manufacturer did when they first 
installed Windows. Usually the problem is they use a different Product Key 
than the Product Key on the COA they affix to the computer. The computer 
technician who is doing a clean install seldom is the person who first 
installed Windows so he never had the chance to use your procedure.


Since I never have an activation problem when I format and do a clean 
install on a computer I built, I reach the following conclusion. Let's say 
there have been no hardware changes to the computer and activation fails and 
you have to call Microsoft. I know of only two possible reasons for this. If 
you know of more, please tell us. 1. The computer manufacturer used a 
different Product Key to install Windows than the one on the COA they 
affixed to the computer. 2. Perhaps Microsoft sees that somebody is 
circumventing the manufacturer's recovery arrangement by doing a format and 
clean install.


Have any of you white box manufacturers had any activation problems on 
installs you did months or years after you built and sold the computer? If 
not, I rest my case!


Chuck

Re: [H] activation of XP questions

[chuck]

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'The Hardware List'" 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: RE: [H] activation of XP questions



They don't grill you.  The automated system informs you there is a reason
why you can't activate online (like you normally would) and that it cannot
activate you by phone.  So, it passes you off to a customer rep.  You
briefly explain why you're re-activating (short) and guarantee to them 
that

this software is only being used on one PC, and that's it.



Have the model number of the computer handy and know where the computer was 
purchased. They never fail to ask you these two questions.


Chuck 

Re: [H] activation of XP questions

[chuck]

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'The Hardware List'" 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:44 AM
Subject: RE: [H] activation of XP questions




Tried to re-activate, MS told them to go take a hike.. they found their 
own

solution for that problem.



The problem is eventually your "solution" gets shot down without notice. My 
guess is the best way to stay up and running is to never allow your software 
or operating system to call home for updates. This is why I limit any monkey 
business to computers I own and would not dare put a customer at risk of 
trouble down the road.


Chuck 

Re: [H] activation of XP questions

[chuck]

- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:15 AM
Subject: RE: [H] activation of XP questions


since they did reactivate everything was ok other than the wasted time to 
make the phone call.  Have had clients that had to reactivate because of 
hardware changes & those phone calls were easier.




Remember to punch the numbers on a dial tone phone keypad because their 
voice recognition wastes your time with its errors. The keypad does not 
miss. Still, it is hard to get the phone activation done in less than 15 
minutes when you have to speak with a Microsoft representative.


Chuck 

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[Chris Reeves]

*laugh* Chuck, please do not put things in my mouth.. I never said "my
solution" I pointed out their solution.  

CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:50 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] activation of XP questions


- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'The Hardware List'" 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:44 AM
Subject: RE: [H] activation of XP questions


>
> Tried to re-activate, MS told them to go take a hike.. they found their 
> own
> solution for that problem.
>

The problem is eventually your "solution" gets shot down without notice. My 
guess is the best way to stay up and running is to never allow your software

or operating system to call home for updates. This is why I limit any monkey

business to computers I own and would not dare put a customer at risk of 
trouble down the road.

Chuck 

Re: [H] activation of XP questions

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 08:45 AM 12/09/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Remember to punch the numbers on a dial tone phone keypad because their 
voice recognition wastes your time with its errors. The keypad does not 
miss. Still, it is hard to get the phone activation done in less than 15 
minutes when you have to speak with a Microsoft representative.


Actually, I've never had errors when saying the numbers.  The system always 
tells me it can't help me and transfers me to a human, but not because it 
couldn't understand me.


T 

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[Chris Reeves]

BTW, if you know you have to get to a human (which is virtually every time
in a re-activation not first activation scenario) just yell like crazy, and
it will transfer you quickly.  

Or, just push 11-11- and so on.

CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington
(S)
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] activation of XP questions

At 08:45 AM 12/09/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Remember to punch the numbers on a dial tone phone keypad because their 
>voice recognition wastes your time with its errors. The keypad does not 
>miss. Still, it is hard to get the phone activation done in less than 15 
>minutes when you have to speak with a Microsoft representative.

Actually, I've never had errors when saying the numbers.  The system always 
tells me it can't help me and transfers me to a human, but not because it 
couldn't understand me.

T 

RE: [H] activation of XP questions

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 01:01 PM 12/09/2005, Chris Reeves wrote:

BTW, if you know you have to get to a human (which is virtually every time
in a re-activation not first activation scenario) just yell like crazy, and
it will transfer you quickly.


Good to know.  I love yelling at computers. :)

T 

Re: [H] activation of XP questions

[Brian Weeden]

Just wait till the 7 versions of Vista come out - I can't wait to see
what kind of activation loopholes they make us jump through then.

-- 
Brian

Re: [H] Activation of XP questions

[Al]

Robert Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * Copy the following files to a floppy, CD or second hard disk: 
> wpa.dbl, wpa.bak.
> To restore the files, start the computer in Safe Mode and copy them to the 
> same directory (\WINDOWS\System32).

Both times I've tried this, I lost the rest of the 30 days and had to
activate immediately. Putting back the original files didn't help.

YMMV,
Al