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Ok, y'all sucked me in. When I can't get there on my Harley, my Toyota Tacoma can get me anywhere. Both are great on gas. 6 cylinders total here. The 13" we just got this weekend, child's play. The Toy has the 2.7 Ltr 4 and it is a mule. Hell, according to the manual, I can use the starter (in 4wd) to get me up a steep incline, out of a mud pit. It ain't that fast but with it being a stick, it can respond when needed. The Harley... don't need explaining. Jim
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Not bad cars, just meant performance wise. On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 11:34:57PM -0500, Ben Ruset wrote: > :( > > My wife's Protege5 is an awesome car. > > Bryan Seitz wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:44:22PM -0500, Ben Ruset wrote: > >>I want the Mazdaspeed 6. Yum. > > > >rofl, P O S. > > -- Bryan G. Seitz
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:( My wife's Protege5 is an awesome car. Bryan Seitz wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:44:22PM -0500, Ben Ruset wrote: I want the Mazdaspeed 6. Yum. rofl, P O S.
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:44:22PM -0500, Ben Ruset wrote: > I want the Mazdaspeed 6. Yum. rofl, P O S. -- Bryan G. Seitz
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I want the Mazdaspeed 6. Yum. Is that Jag still parked in your parents driveway? Can I have that too? Julian Zottl wrote: lol, yes ;) I was in Canada skiing, hence the slow reply ;) If you think that the Subaru WRX STI feels like a plastic bucket, you obviously haven't been in a Saturn lately. Now that feels like it's going to fall apart right from under you. I bought a Subaru WRX STI for a couple of reasons: I regularly go through 6+"'s of snow on the weekends, so I needed something AWD/4WD. My brother in law had a Forrester that went over 175k without anything other than oil/brakes/tune-ups/tires. Good gas milage. To summarize: Fast, great handling, good in the snow and reliable. Subaru's are definitely not for everyone though. If you want comfort, the Subaru Legacy GT is one hell of a car for the money, but not everyone wants to drive a "Subaru". For 5k more than a full outfitted Legacy GT, you can get a AWD 325XI. For that you get -50HP, -75lbs/ft of torque, no limited-slip differential, less leg room, no lumbar support or heated seats and less of a warrenty. Oh and you do get a cool little blue and white symbol, which means more to most people than the technical specifications. FYI: I live in a town (DC) where every other car is a BMW, Porsche or Lexus. I've been in and driven a huge number of cars since I'm the preseident of the DC All Wheel Drive car club (www.dcawd.com). Every time someone takes a drive in a STI or a Legacy, they understand where I am coming from. Most will admit right then and there though that they paid extra for the status symbol. ok, I'll stop now ;)
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Just to throw in my 2 cents, I bought a Honda Pilot almost 2 years ago and it has been awesome. Here in Colorado I have been through pouring rain, hail, fluffy snow, ice and it handles it all very well. Great comfort. great handling, decent gas milage (18-29mpg on average) and room for 7. On 2/13/06, Julian Zottl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > lol, yes ;) I was in Canada skiing, hence the slow reply ;) > > If you think that the Subaru WRX STI feels like a plastic bucket, you > obviously haven't been in a Saturn lately. Now that feels like it's going to > fall apart right from under you. > > I bought a Subaru WRX STI for a couple of reasons: I regularly go through > 6+"'s of snow on the weekends, so I needed something AWD/4WD. My brother in > law had a Forrester that went over 175k without anything other than > oil/brakes/tune-ups/tires. Good gas milage. To summarize: Fast, great > handling, good in the snow and reliable. > > Subaru's are definitely not for everyone though. If you want comfort, the > Subaru Legacy GT is one hell of a car for the money, but not everyone wants > to drive a "Subaru". For 5k more than a full outfitted Legacy GT, you can > get a AWD 325XI. For that you get -50HP, -75lbs/ft of torque, no > limited-slip differential, less leg room, no lumbar support or heated seats > and less of a warrenty. Oh and you do get a cool little blue and white > symbol, which means more to most people than the technical specifications. > > FYI: I live in a town (DC) where every other car is a BMW, Porsche or Lexus. > I've been in and driven a huge number of cars since I'm the preseident of the > DC All Wheel Drive car club (www.dcawd.com). Every time someone takes a > drive in a STI or a Legacy, they understand where I am coming from. Most > will admit right then and there though that they paid extra for the status > symbol. > > ok, I'll stop now ;) > > _ > Julian Zottl > CTO, Radiant Network Technology, LLC > Getting ahead in the tech sector isn't about kissing butt ... you gotta sniff > the right packets > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: The Hardware List > Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:09:23 -0500 > > >Paging Sabre in 5..4..3..2.. > > > >Christopher Klein wrote: > >> It's fairly quickbut have you been in one? It feels like a plastic > >> bucket. There isn't anything nice about the inside at all. I could see > >> picking one up if money was no object and you were into weekend racing at > >> the trackbut driving that thing for anything more than 20 minutes is > >> just painful. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz > >> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:15 PM > >> To: The Hardware List > >> Subject: Re: [H] ok, how about this... > >> > >> WRX STI :) > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:12:11PM -0500, Christopher Klein wrote: > >>> New Camaro looks great. I'm more of a domestic guyHonda/Toyota > >>> does nothing for me in terms of power and looks. I like BMW and > >>> Mercedez but I'd probably never buy one. I'll probably get a CTS-V if > >>> my Impala SS ever dies. > >>> > >> > > > > -- Brian
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lol, yes ;) I was in Canada skiing, hence the slow reply ;) If you think that the Subaru WRX STI feels like a plastic bucket, you obviously haven't been in a Saturn lately. Now that feels like it's going to fall apart right from under you. I bought a Subaru WRX STI for a couple of reasons: I regularly go through 6+"'s of snow on the weekends, so I needed something AWD/4WD. My brother in law had a Forrester that went over 175k without anything other than oil/brakes/tune-ups/tires. Good gas milage. To summarize: Fast, great handling, good in the snow and reliable. Subaru's are definitely not for everyone though. If you want comfort, the Subaru Legacy GT is one hell of a car for the money, but not everyone wants to drive a "Subaru". For 5k more than a full outfitted Legacy GT, you can get a AWD 325XI. For that you get -50HP, -75lbs/ft of torque, no limited-slip differential, less leg room, no lumbar support or heated seats and less of a warrenty. Oh and you do get a cool little blue and white symbol, which means more to most people than the technical specifications. FYI: I live in a town (DC) where every other car is a BMW, Porsche or Lexus. I've been in and driven a huge number of cars since I'm the preseident of the DC All Wheel Drive car club (www.dcawd.com). Every time someone takes a drive in a STI or a Legacy, they understand where I am coming from. Most will admit right then and there though that they paid extra for the status symbol. ok, I'll stop now ;) _ Julian Zottl CTO, Radiant Network Technology, LLC Getting ahead in the tech sector isn't about kissing butt ... you gotta sniff the right packets -- Original Message -- From: Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:09:23 -0500 >Paging Sabre in 5..4..3..2.. > >Christopher Klein wrote: >> It's fairly quickbut have you been in one? It feels like a plastic >> bucket. There isn't anything nice about the inside at all. I could see >> picking one up if money was no object and you were into weekend racing at >> the trackbut driving that thing for anything more than 20 minutes is >> just painful. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz >> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:15 PM >> To: The Hardware List >> Subject: Re: [H] ok, how about this... >> >> WRX STI :) >> >> On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:12:11PM -0500, Christopher Klein wrote: >>> New Camaro looks great. I'm more of a domestic guyHonda/Toyota >>> does nothing for me in terms of power and looks. I like BMW and >>> Mercedez but I'd probably never buy one. I'll probably get a CTS-V if >>> my Impala SS ever dies. >>> >> >
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 10:05:34AM -0500, j m g wrote: > it's the nature of the 'sport compact' - I've got an '04 WRX and nope > no creature comforts, but everything is in easy reach :) > > I've had this arguement ad naseum with friends, many of who have bmw > 330xl's - the awd, and while comfortable, feel like a slug to drive :) And and don't mention the uhm... massive price tag increase on them :) (I admit, the 330 XI is hot) -- Bryan G. Seitz
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it's the nature of the 'sport compact' - I've got an '04 WRX and nope no creature comforts, but everything is in easy reach :) I've had this arguement ad naseum with friends, many of who have bmw 330xl's - the awd, and while comfortable, feel like a slug to drive :) On 2/12/06, Christopher Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It handles nicelybut I'm talking about the seats, dash, etc. I just get > the feeling that I'm riding in a tin can with a powerful engine. There are > no creature comforts > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:27 PM > To: The Hardware List > Subject: Re: [H] ok, how about this... > > I own one ;) I actually like the way it handles/feels. > (I have an '05). I guess each to their own though. > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 09:54:22PM -0500, Christopher Klein wrote: > > It's fairly quickbut have you been in one? It feels like a > > plastic bucket. There isn't anything nice about the inside at all. I > > could see picking one up if money was no object and you were into > > weekend racing at the trackbut driving that thing for anything > > more than 20 minutes is just painful. > > > > -- > > Bryan G. Seitz > > -- -jmg -sapere aude
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It handles nicelybut I'm talking about the seats, dash, etc. I just get the feeling that I'm riding in a tin can with a powerful engine. There are no creature comforts -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:27 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] ok, how about this... I own one ;) I actually like the way it handles/feels. (I have an '05). I guess each to their own though. On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 09:54:22PM -0500, Christopher Klein wrote: > It's fairly quickbut have you been in one? It feels like a > plastic bucket. There isn't anything nice about the inside at all. I > could see picking one up if money was no object and you were into > weekend racing at the trackbut driving that thing for anything > more than 20 minutes is just painful. > -- Bryan G. Seitz
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I own one ;) I actually like the way it handles/feels. (I have an '05). I guess each to their own though. On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 09:54:22PM -0500, Christopher Klein wrote: > It's fairly quickbut have you been in one? It feels like a plastic > bucket. There isn't anything nice about the inside at all. I could see > picking one up if money was no object and you were into weekend racing at > the trackbut driving that thing for anything more than 20 minutes is > just painful. > -- Bryan G. Seitz
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Paging Sabre in 5..4..3..2.. Christopher Klein wrote: It's fairly quickbut have you been in one? It feels like a plastic bucket. There isn't anything nice about the inside at all. I could see picking one up if money was no object and you were into weekend racing at the trackbut driving that thing for anything more than 20 minutes is just painful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:15 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] ok, how about this... WRX STI :) On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:12:11PM -0500, Christopher Klein wrote: New Camaro looks great. I'm more of a domestic guyHonda/Toyota does nothing for me in terms of power and looks. I like BMW and Mercedez but I'd probably never buy one. I'll probably get a CTS-V if my Impala SS ever dies.
RE: [H] ok, how about this...
It's fairly quickbut have you been in one? It feels like a plastic bucket. There isn't anything nice about the inside at all. I could see picking one up if money was no object and you were into weekend racing at the trackbut driving that thing for anything more than 20 minutes is just painful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:15 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] ok, how about this... WRX STI :) On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:12:11PM -0500, Christopher Klein wrote: > New Camaro looks great. I'm more of a domestic guyHonda/Toyota > does nothing for me in terms of power and looks. I like BMW and > Mercedez but I'd probably never buy one. I'll probably get a CTS-V if > my Impala SS ever dies. > -- Bryan G. Seitz
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WRX STI :) On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:12:11PM -0500, Christopher Klein wrote: > New Camaro looks great. I'm more of a domestic guyHonda/Toyota does > nothing for me in terms of power and looks. I like BMW and Mercedez but I'd > probably never buy one. I'll probably get a CTS-V if my Impala SS ever > dies. > -- Bryan G. Seitz
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I'm a Jeep guy, so making fun of GM "quality" is actually pretty hypocritical for me. If I had the $ I would be all about the BMW 6 series. Yum. Christopher Klein wrote: New Camaro looks great. I'm more of a domestic guyHonda/Toyota does nothing for me in terms of power and looks. I like BMW and Mercedez but I'd probably never buy one. I'll probably get a CTS-V if my Impala SS ever dies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:01 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] ok, how about this... As if we need another reason not to buy their uninspired crap. The 'vette is their last saving grace. From: Jim Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] ok, how about this... Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:47:31 -0500 http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2006-02/gms-car-based-multimedia-infrastructure / to avoid DRM, don't buy a Chevy. "GM wants to build you a car-based multimedia infrastructure. They envision a system for moving content from various home and portable devices into your car for storage, organization, and presentation. Oh yeah, they want to enforce DRM by tying content to your vehicle identification number (VIN)"
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New Camaro looks great. I'm more of a domestic guyHonda/Toyota does nothing for me in terms of power and looks. I like BMW and Mercedez but I'd probably never buy one. I'll probably get a CTS-V if my Impala SS ever dies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:01 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] ok, how about this... As if we need another reason not to buy their uninspired crap. The 'vette is their last saving grace. >From: Jim Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Hardware List >To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >Subject: [H] ok, how about this... >Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:47:31 -0500 > >http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2006-02/gms-car-based-multimedia-infrastructure / > >to avoid DRM, don't buy a Chevy. > >"GM wants to build you a car-based multimedia infrastructure. They envision >a system for moving content from various home and portable devices into >your car for storage, organization, and presentation. Oh yeah, they want to >enforce DRM by tying content to your vehicle identification number (VIN)" >
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As if we need another reason not to buy their uninspired crap. The 'vette is their last saving grace. From: Jim Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] ok, how about this... Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:47:31 -0500 http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2006-02/gms-car-based-multimedia-infrastructure/ to avoid DRM, don't buy a Chevy. "GM wants to build you a car-based multimedia infrastructure. They envision a system for moving content from various home and portable devices into your car for storage, organization, and presentation. Oh yeah, they want to enforce DRM by tying content to your vehicle identification number (VIN)"
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Bryan Seitz wrote: Haha, to get a quality vehicle, don't buy a Chevy ;) /me runs. lol, good one.
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On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:47:31AM -0500, Jim Edwards wrote: > http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2006-02/gms-car-based-multimedia-infrastructure/ > > to avoid DRM, don't buy a Chevy. Haha, to get a quality vehicle, don't buy a Chevy ;) /me runs. -- Bryan G. Seitz
[H] ok, how about this...
http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2006-02/gms-car-based-multimedia-infrastructure/ to avoid DRM, don't buy a Chevy. "GM wants to build you a car-based multimedia infrastructure. They envision a system for moving content from various home and portable devices into your car for storage, organization, and presentation. Oh yeah, they want to enforce DRM by tying content to your vehicle identification number (VIN)"
