Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?
I wasn't with them at that timeI was there in '93. A good friend of mine, who was in Tech Support with me, was there for several additional years and mentioned that they had a lot of trouble with their wireless stuff. Too bad as they used to make great keyboards before many bad business decisions. - Original Message - From: "warpmedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same? Keytronic long since in the trash, it was their IR wireless stuff that they claimed to have stopped making in like '98. Why $200, no reason in particular. It was the latest Logitech unit, blue tooth, etc... and I had $180 to spend thinking it was a great unit. It sat a year after initial testing and I did not return it to Logitech fast enough (an ebay purchase, not returnable to vendor). Recently I pulled it out in frustration to replace the MX that is lying here semi-functional on my server. The original complaint was securing it, required pairing with a computer. Switch with a USB switch, re-pair again unlike the non-bluetooth MX stuff which stayed secure & working. Now I can add lame ass membrane to the list of complaints. jeff.lane wrote: I still have an old Keytronic KB101-1 capacitance keyboard. It is the finest keyboard I have ever usedbar none. None of the others are even close. These new membrane boards are strictly throwaways and certainly not worth wasting any repair time on. Are the two boards you have physically damaged, e.g., case, keys, main logic board? If it's just pressure domes and switches I may be able to help you. I was in Keytronic Tech support for awhile and have a couple of bags of parts.no keys though. BTW what was so special about a membrane(AKA non-repairable) to pay $200.00? Jeff - Original Message - From: "warpmedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3. 3 logitechs. One goes unsupported (pre-iTouch); On another, eventually required an elephant typist after 2 years (membrane); A 1.5 year old MX that despite being totally disassembled & cleaned by hand, never since worked right mechanically (key travel has stiction) even though electrically the membrane works fine; Lastly a $200 DiNovo abortion that seems to consistently miss the "A" & "CTRL" keys unless hit just right (membrane). -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 2/15/2006
Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?
Keytronic long since in the trash, it was their IR wireless stuff that they claimed to have stopped making in like '98. Why $200, no reason in particular. It was the latest Logitech unit, blue tooth, etc... and I had $180 to spend thinking it was a great unit. It sat a year after initial testing and I did not return it to Logitech fast enough (an ebay purchase, not returnable to vendor). Recently I pulled it out in frustration to replace the MX that is lying here semi-functional on my server. The original complaint was securing it, required pairing with a computer. Switch with a USB switch, re-pair again unlike the non-bluetooth MX stuff which stayed secure & working. Now I can add lame ass membrane to the list of complaints. jeff.lane wrote: I still have an old Keytronic KB101-1 capacitance keyboard. It is the finest keyboard I have ever usedbar none. None of the others are even close. These new membrane boards are strictly throwaways and certainly not worth wasting any repair time on. Are the two boards you have physically damaged, e.g., case, keys, main logic board? If it's just pressure domes and switches I may be able to help you. I was in Keytronic Tech support for awhile and have a couple of bags of parts.no keys though. BTW what was so special about a membrane(AKA non-repairable) to pay $200.00? Jeff - Original Message - From: "warpmedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3. 3 logitechs. One goes unsupported (pre-iTouch); On another, eventually required an elephant typist after 2 years (membrane); A 1.5 year old MX that despite being totally disassembled & cleaned by hand, never since worked right mechanically (key travel has stiction) even though electrically the membrane works fine; Lastly a $200 DiNovo abortion that seems to consistently miss the "A" & "CTRL" keys unless hit just right (membrane).
RE: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?
The old IBM "click" keyboards are the best (IMHO). Specially for typist who practiced the iron finger technique in their childhood. 007. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JRS Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 6:37 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same? LOL. I still use a couple orginal IBM clickey keyboards with the buckling spring switches from the 80's. They work as well now as they did then and I love that clicky feel. :) >>My feelings after many keyboards has come down to this: Get one that >>uses switches not membrane. >> >>That's after >> >>1. Owning 2 Keytronics, who voided my lifetime warranty for "spillage" >>caused by spaying cleaner on the keyboard (i.e. bullshit excuse). >> >>2. MS Natural, Rev 1 or so. Printing wore off, stiction on key travel >>after a few months. >> >>3. 3 logitechs. One goes unsupported (pre-iTouch); On another, >>eventually required an elephant typist after 2 years (membrane); A 1.5 >>year old MX that despite being totally disassembled & cleaned by hand, >>never since worked right mechanically (key travel has stiction) even >>though electrically the membrane works fine; Lastly a $200 DiNovo >>abortion that seems to consistently miss the "A" & "CTRL" keys unless >>hit just right (membrane). >> >>My next keyboard will at least have switches & likely corded. -- JRS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please remove **X** to reply... Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?
At 11:31 AM 2/14/2006, you wrote: For me a keyboard is a keyboard, is there any significant difference between the ones that cost $20 and $120? I'll probably just nab one off of NewEgg. I do some moderate gaming, but I rarely program a bunch of hot-keys. Any recs would be appreciated.. I'm partial towards the Logitech wireless line. Have 5 sets of Cordless Freedom Opticals in service for the last 4 years, still running beautifully to this day. -- JW
Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?
LOL. I still use a couple orginal IBM clickey keyboards with the buckling spring switches from the 80's. They work as well now as they did then and I love that clicky feel. :) >>My feelings after many keyboards has come down to this: Get one that >>uses switches not membrane. >> >>That's after >> >>1. Owning 2 Keytronics, who voided my lifetime warranty for "spillage" >>caused by spaying cleaner on the keyboard (i.e. bullshit excuse). >> >>2. MS Natural, Rev 1 or so. Printing wore off, stiction on key travel >>after a few months. >> >>3. 3 logitechs. One goes unsupported (pre-iTouch); On another, >>eventually required an elephant typist after 2 years (membrane); A 1.5 >>year old MX that despite being totally disassembled & cleaned by hand, >>never since worked right mechanically (key travel has stiction) even >>though electrically the membrane works fine; Lastly a $200 DiNovo >>abortion that seems to consistently miss the "A" & "CTRL" keys unless >>hit just right (membrane). >> >>My next keyboard will at least have switches & likely corded. -- JRS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please remove **X** to reply... Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored.
Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?
I still have an old Keytronic KB101-1 capacitance keyboard. It is the finest keyboard I have ever usedbar none. None of the others are even close. These new membrane boards are strictly throwaways and certainly not worth wasting any repair time on. Are the two boards you have physically damaged, e.g., case, keys, main logic board? If it's just pressure domes and switches I may be able to help you. I was in Keytronic Tech support for awhile and have a couple of bags of parts.no keys though. BTW what was so special about a membrane(AKA non-repairable) to pay $200.00? Jeff - Original Message - From: "warpmedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same? My feelings after many keyboards has come down to this: Get one that uses switches not membrane. That's after 1. Owning 2 Keytronics, who voided my lifetime warranty for "spillage" caused by spaying cleaner on the keyboard (i.e. bullshit excuse). 2. MS Natural, Rev 1 or so. Printing wore off, stiction on key travel after a few months. 3. 3 logitechs. One goes unsupported (pre-iTouch); On another, eventually required an elephant typist after 2 years (membrane); A 1.5 year old MX that despite being totally disassembled & cleaned by hand, never since worked right mechanically (key travel has stiction) even though electrically the membrane works fine; Lastly a $200 DiNovo abortion that seems to consistently miss the "A" & "CTRL" keys unless hit just right (membrane). My next keyboard will at least have switches & likely corded. FORC5 wrote: personally like Keytronic with the large enter key. fp At 10:31 AM 2/14/2006, Veech Poked the stick with: For me a keyboard is a keyboard, is there any significant difference between the ones that cost $20 and $120? I'll probably just nab one off of NewEgg. I do some moderate gaming, but I rarely program a bunch of hot-keys. Any recs would be appreciated..
Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?
My feelings after many keyboards has come down to this: Get one that uses switches not membrane. That's after 1. Owning 2 Keytronics, who voided my lifetime warranty for "spillage" caused by spaying cleaner on the keyboard (i.e. bullshit excuse). 2. MS Natural, Rev 1 or so. Printing wore off, stiction on key travel after a few months. 3. 3 logitechs. One goes unsupported (pre-iTouch); On another, eventually required an elephant typist after 2 years (membrane); A 1.5 year old MX that despite being totally disassembled & cleaned by hand, never since worked right mechanically (key travel has stiction) even though electrically the membrane works fine; Lastly a $200 DiNovo abortion that seems to consistently miss the "A" & "CTRL" keys unless hit just right (membrane). My next keyboard will at least have switches & likely corded. FORC5 wrote: personally like Keytronic with the large enter key. fp At 10:31 AM 2/14/2006, Veech Poked the stick with: For me a keyboard is a keyboard, is there any significant difference between the ones that cost $20 and $120? I'll probably just nab one off of NewEgg. I do some moderate gaming, but I rarely program a bunch of hot-keys. Any recs would be appreciated..
Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?
It's mostly a personal preference. I've had $10 keyboards that I liked, and $50 keyboards that I didn't like. For me its the tactile feedback that counts. I don't like keys that feel spongy or springy. Also, a slightly audible key click is good, but some make way too much 'clackity' noise. Gary VanderMolen - Original Message - For me a keyboard is a keyboard, is there any significant difference between the ones that cost $20 and $120? I'll probably just nab one off of NewEgg. I do some moderate gaming, but I rarely program a bunch of hot-keys. Any recs would be appreciated..
Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?
personally like Keytronic with the large enter key. fp At 10:31 AM 2/14/2006, Veech Poked the stick with: >For me a keyboard is a keyboard, is there any significant difference between >the ones that cost $20 and $120? I'll probably just nab one off of NewEgg. >I do some moderate gaming, but I rarely program a bunch of hot-keys. Any >recs would be appreciated.. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Do not adjust your mind, the fault is with reality.
