RE: [H] UPS for home theatre
The UPS will always be able to correct one thing that surge protectors alone can't ... voltage sags/brownouts. That can also be damaging to equipment. Adios, Tony --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2005 2:56 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] UPS for home theatre A little late in the thread here (vacationing here in Yosemite) Just another point to add - if the UPS you are considering is for your HT, what is the point of getting one that will make everything look and sound FUBAR when the battery is engaged?
RE: [H] UPS for home theatre
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Hayes Elkins wrote: A little late in the thread here (vacationing here in Yosemite) Just another point to add - if the UPS you are considering is for your HT, what is the point of getting one that will make everything look and sound FUBAR when the battery is engaged? Considering that power outtages where you would be out for a long period of time are few and far between you, when I purchased I was looking for something to smooth over the brownouts and to keep that 5 second power flicker from restarting everything. During that 5-10 seconds who cares if there is a little picture distortion, so long as it's not damaging the hardware. To me it was a $100 insurance policy. Christopher Fisk -- Why should I have to work for everything? It's like saying that I don't deserve it. -- Calvin
RE: [H] UPS for home theatre
At 11:55 6/24/2005, Hayes Elkins, wrote: >A little late in the thread here (vacationing here in Yosemite) > >Just another point to add - if the UPS you are considering is for your HT, >what is the point of getting one that will make everything look and sound >FUBAR when the battery is engaged? Good point. I remember that when "Best Power" was in business, they bragged about a pure sine wave output. Apparently, PowerWare has taken over their line: http://www.BestPower.com/ http://www.PowerWare.com/USA/ http://www.Google.com/search?q=%28pure+OR+clean%29+sine+wave+ups Start Here to Find It Fast! -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/
Re: [H] UPS for home theatre
Online UPS's aren't cheap so there is a cost aspect to look at that some people need to worry about. So the reason for having a UPS if you care about cost over a surge protector is power outages can be damaging (from extra powercycling), as can brownouts. Plus if you have recording equipment (i.e. dvr or vcr) it helps to keep from losing the show you are recording. Eli - Original Message - A little late in the thread here (vacationing here in Yosemite) Just another point to add - if the UPS you are considering is for your HT, what is the point of getting one that will make everything look and sound FUBAR when the battery is engaged?
RE: [H] UPS for home theatre
A little late in the thread here (vacationing here in Yosemite) Just another point to add - if the UPS you are considering is for your HT, what is the point of getting one that will make everything look and sound FUBAR when the battery is engaged? From: "Tony Antoniou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List To: "'The Hardware List'" Subject: RE: [H] UPS for home theatre Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:34:52 +1000 Definitely not. You are 100% correct. It's only a problem when the power goes down as that's when the non-sine wave (typically a stepped sine wave) becomes an issue. And no, it's not harmful to the equipment - it just looks and sounds like dog doo-doo compared to a pure sine wave feed. Obviously in broadcast, nobody at home cares if we suffer a power outage or not as long as the coverage of the Games looks top notch so we can't afford to use anything other than true sine wave. Adios, Tony --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eli Allen Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2005 9:33 To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] UPS for home theatre Sound quality will be worse when running off the UPS but shouldn't be effected the rest of the time. (its only not a sine wave when running off the battery) So is it ok to have bad sound during a power outage? (i.e. it shouldn't do any damage to the hardware making it a requirement) Eli
RE: [H] UPS for home theatre
Definitely not. You are 100% correct. It's only a problem when the power goes down as that's when the non-sine wave (typically a stepped sine wave) becomes an issue. And no, it's not harmful to the equipment - it just looks and sounds like dog doo-doo compared to a pure sine wave feed. Obviously in broadcast, nobody at home cares if we suffer a power outage or not as long as the coverage of the Games looks top notch so we can't afford to use anything other than true sine wave. Adios, Tony --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eli Allen Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2005 9:33 To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] UPS for home theatre Sound quality will be worse when running off the UPS but shouldn't be effected the rest of the time. (its only not a sine wave when running off the battery) So is it ok to have bad sound during a power outage? (i.e. it shouldn't do any damage to the hardware making it a requirement) Eli
Re: [H] UPS for home theatre
Sound quality will be worse when running off the UPS but shouldn't be effected the rest of the time. (its only not a sine wave when running off the battery) So is it ok to have bad sound during a power outage? (i.e. it shouldn't do any damage to the hardware making it a requirement) Eli - Original Message - I would certainly recommend true-sine wave because you need as your AC-DC conversion to be clean and linear and since the power supplies in them are designed with that in mind, it's good practice and ensures a clean sound. This is the reason why you still see more phat transformers as opposed to switchmode power supplies in the AC-DC conversion process. General rule of thumb is if the power supply in the device is linear, your UPS should be a true-sine wave. And for the record, our massive UPS systems used in the IBC at the Olympics are all true-sine wave as well. You could still use any UPS you like, but the sound and image will reflect just how good the UPS really is. Adios, Tony --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Saturday, 18 June 2005 12:49 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] UPS for home theatre When you put a UPS on home theatre, do you need a pure-sine wave or something like that? T
RE: [H] UPS for home theatre
I would certainly recommend true-sine wave because you need as your AC-DC conversion to be clean and linear and since the power supplies in them are designed with that in mind, it's good practice and ensures a clean sound. This is the reason why you still see more phat transformers as opposed to switchmode power supplies in the AC-DC conversion process. General rule of thumb is if the power supply in the device is linear, your UPS should be a true-sine wave. And for the record, our massive UPS systems used in the IBC at the Olympics are all true-sine wave as well. You could still use any UPS you like, but the sound and image will reflect just how good the UPS really is. Adios, Tony --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Saturday, 18 June 2005 12:49 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] UPS for home theatre When you put a UPS on home theatre, do you need a pure-sine wave or something like that? T
Re: [H] UPS for home theatre
At 10:19 6/17/2005, Christopher Fisk, wrote: >On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, Thane Sherrington wrote: > >> When you put a UPS on home theatre, do you need a pure-sine wave or >something >> like that? > > >I've had my Surround Sound, TV, DVD, etc all on a beefy UPS for a couple >years now (Should probably test the battery soon =) and havn't had any >problems. When the power went out in the entire northeast a year or 2 ago >my UPS kept everything running for an hour. (Tivo, 32" TV, Surround Sound >-- Was enough to finish watching the show I was watching). How big? What is the volt-amps (VA) rating of your UPS? How many watts does your load have? By the way, APC believes that 1 hour will provide provide 99.999% uptime: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22WhitePaper24.pdf%22 Start Here to Find It Fast!? -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/
Re: [H] UPS for home theatre
At 12:19 PM 17/06/2005, Christopher Fisk wrote: I'd say if it's rated to handle computers you should be fine for other electronics, but I'm certainly no electrical engineer. I seem to recall Hayes saying that some kind of UPS made speakers sounds like...dogshit, I believe he said, or perhaps unwiped ass. T
Re: [H] UPS for home theatre
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, Thane Sherrington wrote: When you put a UPS on home theatre, do you need a pure-sine wave or something like that? I've had my Surround Sound, TV, DVD, etc all on a beefy UPS for a couple years now (Should probably test the battery soon =) and havn't had any problems. When the power went out in the entire northeast a year or 2 ago my UPS kept everything running for an hour. (Tivo, 32" TV, Surround Sound -- Was enough to finish watching the show I was watching). I'd say if it's rated to handle computers you should be fine for other electronics, but I'm certainly no electrical engineer. Christopher Fisk -- Bender: "You know the secret of traditional robot cooking? Start with a good high-quality oil, then eat it."
