Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Jeff Lane]

THAT will be interesting!! Let's see how that wrings out, eh?

J

- Original Message - 
From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem



At 06:04 PM 26/03/2006, Jeff Lane wrote:
True...I have heard that some sites are now allowing Bitorrent or 
BitLord d/ls because they claim that the u/lds ratios can be 
manipulateddoesn't that suck


Yes it does.  I'm not sure how the ratios work anyway - I don't see a 
speed increase after I've allowed my stuff to seed for days.


I've also heard that BitTorrent is going to start encrypting it's 
transfers so ISP's can't block it.  Not sure how that'd work, though, 
because I assume they are blocking based on ports.


T 




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Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 06:04 PM 26/03/2006, Jeff Lane wrote:
True...I have heard that some sites are now allowing Bitorrent or 
BitLord d/ls because they claim that the u/lds ratios can be 
manipulateddoesn't that suck


Yes it does.  I'm not sure how the ratios work anyway - I don't see a 
speed increase after I've allowed my stuff to seed for days.


I've also heard that BitTorrent is going to start encrypting it's 
transfers so ISP's can't block it.  Not sure how that'd work, though, 
because I assume they are blocking based on ports.


T 

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Jeff Lane]

True...I have heard that some sites are now allowing Bitorrent or BitLord 
d/ls because they claim that the u/lds ratios can be manipulateddoesn't 
that suck



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From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem



At 05:56 PM 26/03/2006, Jeff Lane wrote:

T,

I don't knowit never worked well for me. I always attributed that to 
user errorme.


Heh heh.  At least you can separate your silicon based problems from your 
carbon based ones. :)


T


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Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 05:56 PM 26/03/2006, Jeff Lane wrote:

T,

I don't knowit never worked well for me. I always attributed 
that to user errorme.


Heh heh.  At least you can separate your silicon based problems from 
your carbon based ones. :)


T 

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Jeff Lane]

T,

I don't knowit never worked well for me. I always attributed that to 
user errorme.


Jeff

- Original Message - 
From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem



At 04:06 PM 26/03/2006, Jeff Lane wrote:
BTW I feel luck if I can get 50-75K d/l speed on the torrents. I do use 
BitLord and have tried other and did not care for them. I did get a speed 
increase when I set the port to 49502...about 25k on the average. I do 
agree that Comcast is probably clamping on P2P.


I switched from Azureus to Bitlord because Azureus was a RAM hog.  Have 
they fixed that?


T

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 04:06 PM 26/03/2006, Jeff Lane wrote:
BTW I feel luck if I can get 50-75K d/l speed on the torrents. I do 
use BitLord and have tried other and did not care for them. I did 
get a speed increase when I set the port to 49502...about 25k on the 
average. I do agree that Comcast is probably clamping on P2P.


I switched from Azureus to Bitlord because Azureus was a RAM 
hog.  Have they fixed that?


T 

RE: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 03:03 PM 26/03/2006, Mark Dodge wrote:

Last Result:
Download Speed: 5041 kbps (630.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 350 kbps (43.8 KB/sec transfer rate)


I'm getting:
Download Speed: 4420 kbps (552.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 678 kbps (84.8 KB/sec transfer rate)

But when downloading anything by ISOs by BitLord, I average around 
20K/sec.  Sometimes I see it peak to 150K/sec.  Downloading 
BrowserApp, however, I've seen 500k/sec.


T 

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Jeff Lane]

I hope you will like the Western way of life and an advance welcome to 
Spokane. As with everywhere there are always a few drawbacks, though. If you 
have never been here the topography is something you are not accustomed on 
most of the East Coast and we are at ~1800+ feet elevation in the lower 
areas.


Getting way OT here so will back off for awhile.

BTW I feel luck if I can get 50-75K d/l speed on the torrents. I do use 
BitLord and have tried other and did not care for them. I did get a speed 
increase when I set the port to 49502...about 25k on the average. I do agree 
that Comcast is probably clamping on P2P.


Jeff



- Original Message - 
From: "warpmedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem


Oh man, that low? I just got used to 8MB (Gold, 6MB is standard/silver) on 
Comcast here in Nj for that much and will be moving to Spokane in the next 
few months if things work out right.


If that's the speed it's a real bummer!

Jeff Lane wrote:
Comcast here in Spokane is $42.95(if you subscribe to cable..~$55 if you 
don't) for 4MB down and 384 up(and that just went up a couple of months 
ago). DSL is limited here...not many COsso the bandits have no 
competition. Phone company Quest is making some noise but I wonder if 
they are very serious as all the do is funnel our money to the heavy 
competition locations.


Jeff

RE: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Mark Dodge]

Last Result:
Download Speed: 5041 kbps (630.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 350 kbps (43.8 KB/sec transfer rate) 


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
360-772-2433 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W. D.
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:05 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

At 09:48 3/26/2006, Mark Dodge wrote:
>Here in Kent, SE of Seattle, I get 6 down and not sure what up,

Try this to determine upload speed:
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/


>for 48.95.
>That is EarthLink thru Comcast leasing the modem, although I  think 
>that it is lower with cable TV.
>I do not get the break as I'm using EarthLink.
>
>
>Mark Dodge
>MD Computers
>360-772-2433
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of warpmedia
>Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 1:14 AM
>To: The Hardware List
>Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
>
>Oh man, that low? I just got used to 8MB (Gold, 6MB is standard/silver) 
>on Comcast here in Nj for that much and will be moving to Spokane in 
>the next few months if things work out right.
>
>If that's the speed it's a real bummer!
>
>Jeff Lane wrote:
>> Comcast here in Spokane is $42.95(if you subscribe to cable..~$55 if 
>> you
>> don't) for 4MB down and 384 up(and that just went up a couple of 
>> months ago). DSL is limited here...not many COsso the bandits 
>> have no competition. Phone company Quest is making some noise but I 
>> wonder if they are very serious as all the do is funnel our money to 
>> the heavy competition locations.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 

Start Here to Find It Fast!T ->
http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/
$8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/

RE: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[W. D.]

At 09:48 3/26/2006, Mark Dodge wrote:
>Here in Kent, SE of Seattle, I get 6 down and not sure what up,

Try this to determine upload speed:
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/


>for 48.95.
>That is EarthLink thru Comcast leasing the modem, although I  think that it
>is lower with cable TV.
>I do not get the break as I'm using EarthLink.
>
>
>Mark Dodge
>MD Computers
>360-772-2433 
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of warpmedia
>Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 1:14 AM
>To: The Hardware List
>Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
>
>Oh man, that low? I just got used to 8MB (Gold, 6MB is standard/silver) on
>Comcast here in Nj for that much and will be moving to Spokane in the next
>few months if things work out right.
>
>If that's the speed it's a real bummer!
>
>Jeff Lane wrote:
>> Comcast here in Spokane is $42.95(if you subscribe to cable..~$55 if 
>> you
>> don't) for 4MB down and 384 up(and that just went up a couple of 
>> months ago). DSL is limited here...not many COsso the bandits have 
>> no competition. Phone company Quest is making some noise but I wonder 
>> if they are very serious as all the do is funnel our money to the 
>> heavy competition locations.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 

Start Here to Find It Fast!™ -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/
$8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/

RE: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Mark Dodge]

Here in Kent, SE of Seattle, I get 6 down and not sure what up, for 48.95.
That is EarthLink thru Comcast leasing the modem, although I  think that it
is lower with cable TV.
I do not get the break as I'm using EarthLink.


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
360-772-2433 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of warpmedia
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 1:14 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

Oh man, that low? I just got used to 8MB (Gold, 6MB is standard/silver) on
Comcast here in Nj for that much and will be moving to Spokane in the next
few months if things work out right.

If that's the speed it's a real bummer!

Jeff Lane wrote:
> Comcast here in Spokane is $42.95(if you subscribe to cable..~$55 if 
> you
> don't) for 4MB down and 384 up(and that just went up a couple of 
> months ago). DSL is limited here...not many COsso the bandits have 
> no competition. Phone company Quest is making some noise but I wonder 
> if they are very serious as all the do is funnel our money to the 
> heavy competition locations.
> 
> Jeff
> 

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[warpmedia]

Oh man, that low? I just got used to 8MB (Gold, 6MB is standard/silver) 
on Comcast here in Nj for that much and will be moving to Spokane in the 
next few months if things work out right.


If that's the speed it's a real bummer!

Jeff Lane wrote:
Comcast here in Spokane is $42.95(if you subscribe to cable..~$55 if you 
don't) for 4MB down and 384 up(and that just went up a couple of months 
ago). DSL is limited here...not many COsso the bandits have no 
competition. Phone company Quest is making some noise but I wonder if 
they are very serious as all the do is funnel our money to the heavy 
competition locations.


Jeff

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Jeff Lane]

Comcast here in Spokane is $42.95(if you subscribe to cable..~$55 if you 
don't) for 4MB down and 384 up(and that just went up a couple of months 
ago). DSL is limited here...not many COsso the bandits have no 
competition. Phone company Quest is making some noise but I wonder if they 
are very serious as all the do is funnel our money to the heavy competition 
locations.


Jeff

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From: "Wayne Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem



At 03:19 PM 3/25/2006, Winterlight typed:
Not COX where I am ... still paying 39.95 for 4Mb/s down and 512Kb 
upand I am standing 20 feet away from a fiber optic line. where 
was this?


No FIOS here as of yet but I'm getting 5m/.5m D/U for $39.95 here & I've 
routinely downloaded 15g while sleeping the wee hours of the morning 
without any effort at all from Usenet.


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
<http://www.wavijo.com>


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Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Stan Zaske]

If you know the name of the file your looking for just shop around
until you find the fastest speed and shut the others down. Works for me.


Bill wrote:

  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of CW
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:34 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

Christ, I don't know about that.  I get ISOs (DVD ISOs) via Torrent
(Mandrake is a great example) which are 6.77G or whatever, and generally I
get around 400k/s.  So, just start in the evening, done by the morning.

  
  
Man, I would die for Torrent speeds like that.. Torrent files of 3-4G takes days
and days..
ISP's must be throttling Torrent..

Bill



  

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Hayes Elkins]

It's $20 off for six months for me, plus $5 off for using their phone 
product. The 2Mb cap is non-existant, real world upload is just under 5Mb. 
Funny thing is that the "normal" package subscribers report DL as good as 
premier accounts. Tons of bandwith here in the Washington DC area for the 
taking.




From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: "The Hardware List" 
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:55:46 -0600

Yeah. According to this page:
http://www.cox.com/Fairfax/HighSpeedInternet/premier.asp
it is 15/2 in Fairfax, for $55/mo. You on the $20 off for 3 months promo?

NOVA and DC are the two places I knew for certain Cox was offering 15/2. 
They're pushing 9/1 in other competitive areas around the country.


Major turnaround for NOVA, though. For years the laughing stock of the 
broadband community...and now there are tiers as high or higher than 
anywhere else.



- Original Message - From: "Hayes Elkins" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem



Fairfax county (Virginia)



From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: "The Hardware List" 
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:18:53 -0600


- Original Message - From: "Hayes Elkins" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2003 called

Cable and phone companies are giving bandwidth away these days. Thank 
goodness for FIOS (not that I would ever touch anything from Verizon) - 
their precense made Cox drop my broadband bill to 29.99 and upped my 
download to 15Mb/s and uploads to 5Mb/s.


5GB of data if seeded decently is about 3-4 hours on average, sometimes 
much, much quicker.





15/5 for $30? Where are you at? I knew Cox was offering 15/2 for $55 
(with a 3-month $20 off promotion) in select (read: FIOS competition) 
markets, 9/1 in many others, but even Verizon 15/2 is $80/mo...and I've 
only seen 5mbit up on Verizon's 30/5 package, for $180/mo.


15/5 for $30 seems highly suspect.

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Greg Sevart]

Yeah. According to this page:
http://www.cox.com/Fairfax/HighSpeedInternet/premier.asp
it is 15/2 in Fairfax, for $55/mo. You on the $20 off for 3 months promo?

NOVA and DC are the two places I knew for certain Cox was offering 15/2. 
They're pushing 9/1 in other competitive areas around the country.


Major turnaround for NOVA, though. For years the laughing stock of the 
broadband community...and now there are tiers as high or higher than 
anywhere else.



- Original Message - 
From: "Hayes Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem



Fairfax county (Virginia)



From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: "The Hardware List" 
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:18:53 -0600


- Original Message - From: "Hayes Elkins" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2003 called

Cable and phone companies are giving bandwidth away these days. Thank 
goodness for FIOS (not that I would ever touch anything from Verizon) - 
their precense made Cox drop my broadband bill to 29.99 and upped my 
download to 15Mb/s and uploads to 5Mb/s.


5GB of data if seeded decently is about 3-4 hours on average, sometimes 
much, much quicker.





15/5 for $30? Where are you at? I knew Cox was offering 15/2 for $55 (with 
a 3-month $20 off promotion) in select (read: FIOS competition) markets, 
9/1 in many others, but even Verizon 15/2 is $80/mo...and I've only seen 
5mbit up on Verizon's 30/5 package, for $180/mo.


15/5 for $30 seems highly suspect.

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Wayne Johnson]

At 03:19 PM 3/25/2006, Winterlight typed:
Not COX where I am ... still paying 39.95 for 4Mb/s down and 512Kb 
upand I am standing 20 feet away from a fiber optic line. 
where was this?


No FIOS here as of yet but I'm getting 5m/.5m D/U for $39.95 here & 
I've routinely downloaded 15g while sleeping the wee hours of the 
morning without any effort at all from Usenet.


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Hayes Elkins]

Fairfax county (Virginia)



From: "Greg Sevart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: "The Hardware List" 
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:18:53 -0600


- Original Message - From: "Hayes Elkins" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2003 called

Cable and phone companies are giving bandwidth away these days. Thank 
goodness for FIOS (not that I would ever touch anything from Verizon) - 
their precense made Cox drop my broadband bill to 29.99 and upped my 
download to 15Mb/s and uploads to 5Mb/s.


5GB of data if seeded decently is about 3-4 hours on average, sometimes 
much, much quicker.





15/5 for $30? Where are you at? I knew Cox was offering 15/2 for $55 (with 
a 3-month $20 off promotion) in select (read: FIOS competition) markets, 
9/1 in many others, but even Verizon 15/2 is $80/mo...and I've only seen 
5mbit up on Verizon's 30/5 package, for $180/mo.


15/5 for $30 seems highly suspect.

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Hayes Elkins]

Haven't tried this one yet - what was the advantage for you?



From: CW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: "The Hardware List" 
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:12:34 -0600

I used to use Azareus, but I found and switched to uTorrent, and am very, 
very happy.


-Original message-
From: "Hayes Elkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:05:47 -0600
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

> And forgot to mention Azureus is perhaps the best program of any P2P in 
how
> it handles massive >4GB files. I would never use .torrents if it were 
not

> for this program.
>
>
> >From: "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: The Hardware List 
> >To: The Hardware List 
> >Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
> >Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:07:10 -0500
> >
> >my question is this: how do you get a 5GB file via a torrent..it's so
> >friggin slow to get files that way.
> >
> >Brian Weeden wrote:
> >>You know, sometimes it is the simplest of problems.
> >>
> >>I forgot I had kept all my partitions in FAT32 in case I ever decided
> >>to use MythTV instead of MCE.  Hmmm...now a dilemma.
> >>
> >>On 3/25/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>At 12:18 AM 25/03/2006, Brian Weeden wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I have noticed recently with a few torrents that when I load them in
> >>>>the program (right now I am using uTorrent but this affects Azureus 
as

> >>>>well) it gives me a "Not eough free space on the drive" error.  Even
> >>>>when I am downloading a 5GB file onto a drive with 100GB of free
> >>>>space, it happens.
> >>>>
> >>>If it's a FAT32 drive under XP, it can't handle files larger than 
4GB.

> >>>
> >>>T
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Brian
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Winterlight]

At 04:12 PM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
I used to use Azareus, but I found and switched to uTorrent, and am very, 
very happy.


Yes! I have always used uTorrent ,and have never understood why all the 
excitement for Azareus.  I run uTorrent from within a VM. I love the way 
the entire program is a single exe. 

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Winterlight]

At 03:29 PM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
I average about 1.2-1.6MB (that's bytes, not bits) on a well seeded 
torrent. Hopefully as Verizon rolls out FIOS in your areas



The day that happens it will be hasta la vista COX!

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Greg Sevart]

- Original Message - 
From: "Hayes Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2003 called

Cable and phone companies are giving bandwidth away these days. Thank 
goodness for FIOS (not that I would ever touch anything from Verizon) - 
their precense made Cox drop my broadband bill to 29.99 and upped my 
download to 15Mb/s and uploads to 5Mb/s.


5GB of data if seeded decently is about 3-4 hours on average, sometimes 
much, much quicker.





15/5 for $30? Where are you at? I knew Cox was offering 15/2 for $55 (with a 
3-month $20 off promotion) in select (read: FIOS competition) markets, 9/1 
in many others, but even Verizon 15/2 is $80/mo...and I've only seen 5mbit 
up on Verizon's 30/5 package, for $180/mo.


15/5 for $30 seems highly suspect. 

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[CW]

I used to use Azareus, but I found and switched to uTorrent, and am very, very 
happy.

-Original message-
From: "Hayes Elkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:05:47 -0600
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

> And forgot to mention Azureus is perhaps the best program of any P2P in how 
> it handles massive >4GB files. I would never use .torrents if it were not 
> for this program.
> 
> 
> >From: "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: The Hardware List 
> >To: The Hardware List 
> >Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
> >Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:07:10 -0500
> >
> >my question is this: how do you get a 5GB file via a torrent..it's so 
> >friggin slow to get files that way.
> >
> >Brian Weeden wrote:
> >>You know, sometimes it is the simplest of problems.
> >>
> >>I forgot I had kept all my partitions in FAT32 in case I ever decided
> >>to use MythTV instead of MCE.  Hmmm...now a dilemma.
> >>
> >>On 3/25/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>At 12:18 AM 25/03/2006, Brian Weeden wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I have noticed recently with a few torrents that when I load them in
> >>>>the program (right now I am using uTorrent but this affects Azureus as
> >>>>well) it gives me a "Not eough free space on the drive" error.  Even
> >>>>when I am downloading a 5GB file onto a drive with 100GB of free
> >>>>space, it happens.
> >>>>
> >>>If it's a FAT32 drive under XP, it can't handle files larger than 4GB.
> >>>
> >>>T
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Brian
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
> 

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[CW]

That's a good point.  All of the 'legit" stuff is super, super fast.  Hell, 
AutoPatcher, Linux Distros, etc. available via bittorrent fly downstream.

-Original message-
From: warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:04:32 -0600
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

> Same is true of other legit stuff like podcasts also.
> 
> CW wrote:
> > Christ, I don't know about that.  I get ISOs (DVD ISOs) via Torrent 
> > (Mandrake is a great example) which are 6.77G or whatever, and generally I 
> > get around 400k/s.  So, just start in the evening, done by the morning.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original message-
> > From: "Anthony Q. Martin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:07:40 -0600
> > To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
> > 
> >> my question is this: how do you get a 5GB file via a torrent..it's so 
> >> friggin slow to get files that way.
> >>
> 
> 

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Hayes Elkins]

I average about 1.2-1.6MB (that's bytes, not bits) on a well seeded torrent. 
Hopefully as Verizon rolls out FIOS in your areas the competition will bring 
prices down.




From: warpmedia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: The Hardware List 
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:02:48 -0500

They supposedly are throttling which is why people change their ports to 
from what I read.


Been using 52525 as per some writeup about Azuerus but have not confirmed 
it's better or maybe too commonly used so throttled also. Never see a d/l 
over 200KB/sec here.



Bill wrote:



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:34 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

Christ, I don't know about that.  I get ISOs (DVD ISOs) via Torrent
(Mandrake is a great example) which are 6.77G or whatever, and generally 
I

get around 400k/s.  So, just start in the evening, done by the morning.


Man, I would die for Torrent speeds like that.. Torrent files of 3-4G 
takes days

and days..
ISP's must be throttling Torrent..

Bill

RE: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Neil Davidson]

> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> 
> 2003 called
> 
> Cable and phone companies are giving bandwidth away these 
> days. Thank goodness for FIOS (not that I would ever touch 
> anything from Verizon) - their precense made Cox drop my 
> broadband bill to 29.99 and upped my download to 15Mb/s and 
> uploads to 5Mb/s.
> 
> 5GB of data if seeded decently is about 3-4 hours on average, 
> sometimes much, much quicker.
> 
> 

Many UK ISPs are restricting traffic on P2P ports and are implementing
download caps on their ADSL lines too. I pay £25 which works out as ~$43 a
month. For this I get max of 2Mb down and 256Kb up. This is changing at the
end of the month to 8Mb MAX down and 786Kb MAX down (this is rate adaptive
to suit the quality of your line). I'm also limited to 50GB of downloads a
month between 08:00 and 00:00 (00:00 to 08:00 is un-metered).

Boy would I like the deal you are getting...

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[warpmedia]

They supposedly are throttling which is why people change their ports to 
from what I read.


Been using 52525 as per some writeup about Azuerus but have not 
confirmed it's better or maybe too commonly used so throttled also. 
Never see a d/l over 200KB/sec here.



Bill wrote:



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:34 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

Christ, I don't know about that.  I get ISOs (DVD ISOs) via Torrent
(Mandrake is a great example) which are 6.77G or whatever, and generally I
get around 400k/s.  So, just start in the evening, done by the morning.


Man, I would die for Torrent speeds like that.. Torrent files of 3-4G takes days
and days..
ISP's must be throttling Torrent..

Bill

RE: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Bill]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:20 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem But that's
> 
> At 12:03 PM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
> >HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> >
> >2003 called
> >
> >Cable and phone companies are giving bandwidth away these days. Thank
> >goodness for FIOS (not that I would ever touch anything from Verizon) -
> >their precense made Cox drop my broadband bill to 29.99 and upped my
> >download to 15Mb/s and uploads to 5Mb/s.
> 
> Not COX where I am ... still paying 39.95 for 4Mb/s down and 512Kb
> upand I am standing 20 feet away from a fiber optic line. where was
> this?


I suspect it's market-specific.. 'cuz it sure the hell ain't true here in Vegas
where I'm capped at $49.99 for 5Mb/s down and Cox clearly holds a strangle-hold
monopoly... And Torrent speeds crawl... But that's probably all the Terabytes of
Porn being downloaded at 4AM

Bill

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Winterlight]

At 12:03 PM 3/25/2006, you wrote:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2003 called

Cable and phone companies are giving bandwidth away these days. Thank 
goodness for FIOS (not that I would ever touch anything from Verizon) - 
their precense made Cox drop my broadband bill to 29.99 and upped my 
download to 15Mb/s and uploads to 5Mb/s.


Not COX where I am ... still paying 39.95 for 4Mb/s down and 512Kb 
upand I am standing 20 feet away from a fiber optic line. where was 
this?





5GB of data if seeded decently is about 3-4 hours on average, sometimes 
much, much quicker.




From: "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: The Hardware List 
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:07:10 -0500

my question is this: how do you get a 5GB file via a torrent..it's so 
friggin slow to get files that way.


Brian Weeden wrote:

You know, sometimes it is the simplest of problems.

I forgot I had kept all my partitions in FAT32 in case I ever decided
to use MythTV instead of MCE.  Hmmm...now a dilemma.

On 3/25/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


At 12:18 AM 25/03/2006, Brian Weeden wrote:


I have noticed recently with a few torrents that when I load them in
the program (right now I am using uTorrent but this affects Azureus as
well) it gives me a "Not eough free space on the drive" error.  Even
when I am downloading a 5GB file onto a drive with 100GB of free
space, it happens.

If it's a FAT32 drive under XP, it can't handle files larger than 4GB.

T





--
Brian

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Hayes Elkins]

And forgot to mention Azureus is perhaps the best program of any P2P in how 
it handles massive >4GB files. I would never use .torrents if it were not 
for this program.




From: "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: The Hardware List 
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:07:10 -0500

my question is this: how do you get a 5GB file via a torrent..it's so 
friggin slow to get files that way.


Brian Weeden wrote:

You know, sometimes it is the simplest of problems.

I forgot I had kept all my partitions in FAT32 in case I ever decided
to use MythTV instead of MCE.  Hmmm...now a dilemma.

On 3/25/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


At 12:18 AM 25/03/2006, Brian Weeden wrote:


I have noticed recently with a few torrents that when I load them in
the program (right now I am using uTorrent but this affects Azureus as
well) it gives me a "Not eough free space on the drive" error.  Even
when I am downloading a 5GB file onto a drive with 100GB of free
space, it happens.


If it's a FAT32 drive under XP, it can't handle files larger than 4GB.

T






--
Brian

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Hayes Elkins]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2003 called

Cable and phone companies are giving bandwidth away these days. Thank 
goodness for FIOS (not that I would ever touch anything from Verizon) - 
their precense made Cox drop my broadband bill to 29.99 and upped my 
download to 15Mb/s and uploads to 5Mb/s.


5GB of data if seeded decently is about 3-4 hours on average, sometimes 
much, much quicker.




From: "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: The Hardware List 
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:07:10 -0500

my question is this: how do you get a 5GB file via a torrent..it's so 
friggin slow to get files that way.


Brian Weeden wrote:

You know, sometimes it is the simplest of problems.

I forgot I had kept all my partitions in FAT32 in case I ever decided
to use MythTV instead of MCE.  Hmmm...now a dilemma.

On 3/25/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


At 12:18 AM 25/03/2006, Brian Weeden wrote:


I have noticed recently with a few torrents that when I load them in
the program (right now I am using uTorrent but this affects Azureus as
well) it gives me a "Not eough free space on the drive" error.  Even
when I am downloading a 5GB file onto a drive with 100GB of free
space, it happens.


If it's a FAT32 drive under XP, it can't handle files larger than 4GB.

T






--
Brian

RE: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Winterlight]

> why? doesn't KnoppMyth R5A30 support NTFS?
>
Read only though isn't it?


Good that I found that out. I am going to put together a KnoppMyth 
R5A30  setup with parts out of my boneyard using a >>>


Tyan Tiger dual PIII board,
dual PIII 1Ghz CPUs,
750megs of Crucial PCI33 CAS2 ECC RAM
Couple of DiamondMax 40 and 30GB drives,

ATI AIW 7500,
ATI 1 Remote
   < I did some research and found somebody on the KnoppMyth forum who 
used this card and remote successfully straight from setup


Standard Keyboard, MS explorer optical mouse

So I should use only FAT32 or Knopp Native partitions? Anything else I need 
to know. 

RE: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Bill]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:34 AM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem
> 
> Christ, I don't know about that.  I get ISOs (DVD ISOs) via Torrent
> (Mandrake is a great example) which are 6.77G or whatever, and generally I
> get around 400k/s.  So, just start in the evening, done by the morning.

Man, I would die for Torrent speeds like that.. Torrent files of 3-4G takes days
and days..
ISP's must be throttling Torrent..

Bill

RE: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Neil Davidson]

> At 06:57 AM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
> >You know, sometimes it is the simplest of problems.
> >
> >I forgot I had kept all my partitions in FAT32 in case I 
> ever decided 
> >to use MythTV
> 
> why? doesn't KnoppMyth R5A30 support NTFS?
> 
Read only though isn't it?

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Winterlight]

At 06:57 AM 3/25/2006, you wrote:

You know, sometimes it is the simplest of problems.

I forgot I had kept all my partitions in FAT32 in case I ever decided
to use MythTV


why? doesn't KnoppMyth R5A30 support NTFS?

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[warpmedia]

Same is true of other legit stuff like podcasts also.

CW wrote:

Christ, I don't know about that.  I get ISOs (DVD ISOs) via Torrent (Mandrake 
is a great example) which are 6.77G or whatever, and generally I get around 
400k/s.  So, just start in the evening, done by the morning.


-Original message-
From: "Anthony Q. Martin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:07:40 -0600
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

my question is this: how do you get a 5GB file via a torrent..it's so 
friggin slow to get files that way.

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[warpmedia]

Also depends on the volume of peers to the ratio of leecher shit heads.

I have less of an issue with speed and more of one with getting 
multi-hundred MB files that are NULL data when looking for my fav TV 
shows. Must be an active campaign to thwart P2P sharing of TV shows 
putting up these files.


Brian Weeden wrote:

Not really.  BT breaks up all files no matter how big into small
pieces and is uploading/downloading them all at the same time.  But
it's not uncommon to wait a couple of days for a download that big.

I'm in no hurry :)

On 3/25/06, Anthony Q. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

my question is this: how do you get a 5GB file via a torrent..it's so
friggin slow to get files that way.

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[CW]

Christ, I don't know about that.  I get ISOs (DVD ISOs) via Torrent (Mandrake 
is a great example) which are 6.77G or whatever, and generally I get around 
400k/s.  So, just start in the evening, done by the morning.


-Original message-
From: "Anthony Q. Martin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:07:40 -0600
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

> my question is this: how do you get a 5GB file via a torrent..it's so 
> friggin slow to get files that way.
> 
> Brian Weeden wrote:
> > You know, sometimes it is the simplest of problems.
> >
> > I forgot I had kept all my partitions in FAT32 in case I ever decided
> > to use MythTV instead of MCE.  Hmmm...now a dilemma.
> >
> > On 3/25/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   
> >> At 12:18 AM 25/03/2006, Brian Weeden wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I have noticed recently with a few torrents that when I load them in
> >>> the program (right now I am using uTorrent but this affects Azureus as
> >>> well) it gives me a "Not eough free space on the drive" error.  Even
> >>> when I am downloading a 5GB file onto a drive with 100GB of free
> >>> space, it happens.
> >>>   
> >> If it's a FAT32 drive under XP, it can't handle files larger than 4GB.
> >>
> >> T
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >
> >
> > --
> > Brian
> >
> >   
> 

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Brian Weeden]

Not really.  BT breaks up all files no matter how big into small
pieces and is uploading/downloading them all at the same time.  But
it's not uncommon to wait a couple of days for a download that big.

I'm in no hurry :)

On 3/25/06, Anthony Q. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> my question is this: how do you get a 5GB file via a torrent..it's so
> friggin slow to get files that way.
>
> Brian Weeden wrote:
> > You know, sometimes it is the simplest of problems.
> >
> > I forgot I had kept all my partitions in FAT32 in case I ever decided
> > to use MythTV instead of MCE.  Hmmm...now a dilemma.
> >
> > On 3/25/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> At 12:18 AM 25/03/2006, Brian Weeden wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have noticed recently with a few torrents that when I load them in
> >>> the program (right now I am using uTorrent but this affects Azureus as
> >>> well) it gives me a "Not eough free space on the drive" error.  Even
> >>> when I am downloading a 5GB file onto a drive with 100GB of free
> >>> space, it happens.
> >>>
> >> If it's a FAT32 drive under XP, it can't handle files larger than 4GB.
> >>
> >> T
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Brian
> >
> >
>


--
Brian

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Anthony Q. Martin]

my question is this: how do you get a 5GB file via a torrent..it's so 
friggin slow to get files that way.


Brian Weeden wrote:

You know, sometimes it is the simplest of problems.

I forgot I had kept all my partitions in FAT32 in case I ever decided
to use MythTV instead of MCE.  Hmmm...now a dilemma.

On 3/25/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

At 12:18 AM 25/03/2006, Brian Weeden wrote:


I have noticed recently with a few torrents that when I load them in
the program (right now I am using uTorrent but this affects Azureus as
well) it gives me a "Not eough free space on the drive" error.  Even
when I am downloading a 5GB file onto a drive with 100GB of free
space, it happens.
  

If it's a FAT32 drive under XP, it can't handle files larger than 4GB.

T






--
Brian

  

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Brian Weeden]

You know, sometimes it is the simplest of problems.

I forgot I had kept all my partitions in FAT32 in case I ever decided
to use MythTV instead of MCE.  Hmmm...now a dilemma.

On 3/25/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 12:18 AM 25/03/2006, Brian Weeden wrote:
> >I have noticed recently with a few torrents that when I load them in
> >the program (right now I am using uTorrent but this affects Azureus as
> >well) it gives me a "Not eough free space on the drive" error.  Even
> >when I am downloading a 5GB file onto a drive with 100GB of free
> >space, it happens.
>
> If it's a FAT32 drive under XP, it can't handle files larger than 4GB.
>
> T
>
>


--
Brian

Re: [H] Weird BitTorrent problem

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 12:18 AM 25/03/2006, Brian Weeden wrote:

I have noticed recently with a few torrents that when I load them in
the program (right now I am using uTorrent but this affects Azureus as
well) it gives me a "Not eough free space on the drive" error.  Even
when I am downloading a 5GB file onto a drive with 100GB of free
space, it happens.


If it's a FAT32 drive under XP, it can't handle files larger than 4GB.

T