Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Defrag may only have a benchmark measurable effect vs. real world. Still it's gotta shave cumulative seconds off access to many small files or large highly fragmented ones by simple fact that head seeking takes (negligible these days, admitted) time. I don't run one to the determent of my system performance when I'm actively using it but I do have it do some optimization a few times a week when the system is idle. Theoretically it it could have a detrimental effect on the life of the drive with no benefit to access times if files accessed most frequently fragment faster than you can defrag them. With SSD Flash I hear it's bad in general even if it does help access times given the finite life of those media. Actually the PC being too busy when it's idle is the reason I disabled all of Vista search indexing despite finding the cached searches beneficial. Got real tiring quick wondering why my HDD's seemed so noisy when I was doing nothing with the system. Suppose like defrag there is a way to limit how often it runs but could not find it quick enough vs. disabling. MyDefrag still takes the cake IMHO for lightweight and configurable defrag. On 1/13/2010 9:38 AM, Rick Glazier wrote: Very little. But yes. Rick Glazier - Original Message - From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! You guys still run defraggers? On 1/12/2010 11:46 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I really find diskkeeper pretty blah. But their windows home server add on is nice Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tim Lidertimli...@adv-data.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:40:16 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Hello all, Did you guys forget Diskeeper. Diskeeper is the mother of all Defraggers. http://www.diskeeper.com/ It even prevents a majority of fragmentation. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! So just got an email for half-price on OO Defrag 12 Pro; so $14.95 instead of $30...has anyone who tried out OO think that it's worth that price for v12 vs the free v10? 48 hr deal only for anyone who registered to dl the v10 through the link Zul sent (thanks again for that btw!). BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! The larger companies have more budget for development and hence you can expect better algorithims for defragging. That may not always be the case but is pretty much the norm. Right now I am using Raxco Perfectdisk, but will try OO tonight. Regards, -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: 01/12/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
I've had reports of good luck with 'defraggler'. Free and easily available. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 02:02:02 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Defrag may only have a benchmark measurable effect vs. real world. Still it's gotta shave cumulative seconds off access to many small files or large highly fragmented ones by simple fact that head seeking takes (negligible these days, admitted) time. I don't run one to the determent of my system performance when I'm actively using it but I do have it do some optimization a few times a week when the system is idle. Theoretically it it could have a detrimental effect on the life of the drive with no benefit to access times if files accessed most frequently fragment faster than you can defrag them. With SSD Flash I hear it's bad in general even if it does help access times given the finite life of those media. Actually the PC being too busy when it's idle is the reason I disabled all of Vista search indexing despite finding the cached searches beneficial. Got real tiring quick wondering why my HDD's seemed so noisy when I was doing nothing with the system. Suppose like defrag there is a way to limit how often it runs but could not find it quick enough vs. disabling. MyDefrag still takes the cake IMHO for lightweight and configurable defrag. On 1/13/2010 9:38 AM, Rick Glazier wrote: Very little. But yes. Rick Glazier - Original Message - From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! You guys still run defraggers? On 1/12/2010 11:46 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I really find diskkeeper pretty blah. But their windows home server add on is nice Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tim Lidertimli...@adv-data.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:40:16 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Hello all, Did you guys forget Diskeeper. Diskeeper is the mother of all Defraggers. http://www.diskeeper.com/ It even prevents a majority of fragmentation. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! So just got an email for half-price on OO Defrag 12 Pro; so $14.95 instead of $30...has anyone who tried out OO think that it's worth that price for v12 vs the free v10? 48 hr deal only for anyone who registered to dl the v10 through the link Zul sent (thanks again for that btw!). BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! The larger companies have more budget for development and hence you can expect better algorithims for defragging. That may not always be the case but is pretty much the norm. Right now I am using Raxco Perfectdisk, but will try OO tonight. Regards, -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: 01/12/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Set the realtime defrag to off. And set a schedule for every other day when you are sleeping. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 13, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: I use Diskeeper for a manual defrag every now and then. I don't like it running in the background however as it sometimes causes a noticeable drag on performance. On 1/12/2010 10:54 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You guys still run defraggers? On 1/12/2010 11:46 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I really find diskkeeper pretty blah. But their windows home server add on is nice Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tim Lidertimli...@adv-data.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:40:16 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Hello all, Did you guys forget Diskeeper. Diskeeper is the mother of all Defraggers. http://www.diskeeper.com/ It even prevents a majority of fragmentation. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! So just got an email for half-price on OO Defrag 12 Pro; so $14.95 instead of $30...has anyone who tried out OO think that it's worth that price for v12 vs the free v10? 48 hr deal only for anyone who registered to dl the v10 through the link Zul sent (thanks again for that btw!). BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! The larger companies have more budget for development and hence you can expect better algorithims for defragging. That may not always be the case but is pretty much the norm. Right now I am using Raxco Perfectdisk, but will try OO tonight. Regards, -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: 01/12/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Windows native deragger is pretty bad. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 13, 2010, at 12:48 AM, Joe User joeu...@chronic.org wrote: Hello Thane, Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 12:23:28 PM, you wrote: At 12:54 PM 1/12/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You guys still run defraggers? That's what I was thinking. I've never been able to show an improvement in speed with a defragger in years. I did some tests about five years ago and after repeatedly failing to get any better than a 5% improvement, I stopped bothering. I defrag with windows native once - maybe twice a year. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Hello Zulfiqar, Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:16:56 AM, you wrote: Windows native deragger is pretty bad. How so? 'Cuz I've been doing fine for years here. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Very little. But yes. Rick Glazier - Original Message - From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! You guys still run defraggers? On 1/12/2010 11:46 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I really find diskkeeper pretty blah. But their windows home server add on is nice Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tim Lidertimli...@adv-data.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:40:16 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Hello all, Did you guys forget Diskeeper. Diskeeper is the mother of all Defraggers. http://www.diskeeper.com/ It even prevents a majority of fragmentation. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! So just got an email for half-price on OO Defrag 12 Pro; so $14.95 instead of $30...has anyone who tried out OO think that it's worth that price for v12 vs the free v10? 48 hr deal only for anyone who registered to dl the v10 through the link Zul sent (thanks again for that btw!). BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! The larger companies have more budget for development and hence you can expect better algorithims for defragging. That may not always be the case but is pretty much the norm. Right now I am using Raxco Perfectdisk, but will try OO tonight. Regards, -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: 01/12/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
I've noticed it is better if you pick one and stay with it. Otherwise they seem to try to improve each others works and make lots more work in the process.. Rick Glazier - Original Message - From: Joe User joeu...@chronic.org To: Zulfiqar Naushad hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Hello Zulfiqar, Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:16:56 AM, you wrote: Windows native deragger is pretty bad. How so? 'Cuz I've been doing fine for years here. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
So just got an email for half-price on OO Defrag 12 Pro; so $14.95 instead of $30...has anyone who tried out OO think that it's worth that price for v12 vs the free v10? 48 hr deal only for anyone who registered to dl the v10 through the link Zul sent (thanks again for that btw!). BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! The larger companies have more budget for development and hence you can expect better algorithims for defragging. That may not always be the case but is pretty much the norm. Right now I am using Raxco Perfectdisk, but will try OO tonight. Regards, -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Hello all, Did you guys forget Diskeeper. Diskeeper is the mother of all Defraggers. http://www.diskeeper.com/ It even prevents a majority of fragmentation. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! So just got an email for half-price on OO Defrag 12 Pro; so $14.95 instead of $30...has anyone who tried out OO think that it's worth that price for v12 vs the free v10? 48 hr deal only for anyone who registered to dl the v10 through the link Zul sent (thanks again for that btw!). BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! The larger companies have more budget for development and hence you can expect better algorithims for defragging. That may not always be the case but is pretty much the norm. Right now I am using Raxco Perfectdisk, but will try OO tonight. Regards, -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
I really find diskkeeper pretty blah. But their windows home server add on is nice Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tim Lider timli...@adv-data.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:40:16 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Hello all, Did you guys forget Diskeeper. Diskeeper is the mother of all Defraggers. http://www.diskeeper.com/ It even prevents a majority of fragmentation. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! So just got an email for half-price on OO Defrag 12 Pro; so $14.95 instead of $30...has anyone who tried out OO think that it's worth that price for v12 vs the free v10? 48 hr deal only for anyone who registered to dl the v10 through the link Zul sent (thanks again for that btw!). BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! The larger companies have more budget for development and hence you can expect better algorithims for defragging. That may not always be the case but is pretty much the norm. Right now I am using Raxco Perfectdisk, but will try OO tonight. Regards, -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
You guys still run defraggers? On 1/12/2010 11:46 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I really find diskkeeper pretty blah. But their windows home server add on is nice Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tim Lidertimli...@adv-data.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:40:16 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Hello all, Did you guys forget Diskeeper. Diskeeper is the mother of all Defraggers. http://www.diskeeper.com/ It even prevents a majority of fragmentation. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! So just got an email for half-price on OO Defrag 12 Pro; so $14.95 instead of $30...has anyone who tried out OO think that it's worth that price for v12 vs the free v10? 48 hr deal only for anyone who registered to dl the v10 through the link Zul sent (thanks again for that btw!). BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! The larger companies have more budget for development and hence you can expect better algorithims for defragging. That may not always be the case but is pretty much the norm. Right now I am using Raxco Perfectdisk, but will try OO tonight. Regards, -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: 01/12/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
At 12:54 PM 1/12/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You guys still run defraggers? That's what I was thinking. I've never been able to show an improvement in speed with a defragger in years. I did some tests about five years ago and after repeatedly failing to get any better than a 5% improvement, I stopped bothering. T
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Same here, ran Diskkeeper licenses for years, but gave up running it when XP seemed to be fine with or without it... -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. - Original Message From: Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 10:23:28 AM Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! At 12:54 PM 1/12/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You guys still run defraggers? That's what I was thinking. I've never been able to show an improvement in speed with a defragger in years. I did some tests about five years ago and after repeatedly failing to get any better than a 5% improvement, I stopped bothering. T
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Before doing an OS install, I used to put a couple of gigs of stuff on a drive. Then after the install, and letting the OS work for a short while, I'd remove the filler stuff, and defrag would have all that space to move the files into. Back in the 98se days, when the OS would keep track of which files were used most. Don't know how effective it was, but it seemed to do well. -- Al xtemp...@comcast.net
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
I do system maintenance over night from a batch file which includes command line defrag and wipe. But if you want a traditional defrag program Auslogics has a really nice one for free. At 10:46 AM 1/12/2010, you wrote: Before doing an OS install, I used to put a couple of gigs of stuff on a drive. Then after the install, and letting the OS work for a short while, I'd remove the filler stuff, and defrag would have all that space to move the files into. Back in the 98se days, when the OS would keep track of which files were used most. Don't know how effective it was, but it seemed to do well. -- Al xtemp...@comcast.net
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Yes. I use the defrag utility in WinXPpro once a month. Agreed it may not be the strongest available, but... :) Something wrong with this plan? Duncan On 01/12/2010 11:54, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You guys still run defraggers? On 1/12/2010 11:46 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I really find diskkeeper pretty blah. But their windows home server add on is nice Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tim Lidertimli...@adv-data.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:40:16 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Hello all, Did you guys forget Diskeeper. Diskeeper is the mother of all Defraggers. http://www.diskeeper.com/ It even prevents a majority of fragmentation. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! So just got an email for half-price on OO Defrag 12 Pro; so $14.95 instead of $30...has anyone who tried out OO think that it's worth that price for v12 vs the free v10? 48 hr deal only for anyone who registered to dl the v10 through the link Zul sent (thanks again for that btw!). BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! The larger companies have more budget for development and hence you can expect better algorithims for defragging. That may not always be the case but is pretty much the norm. Right now I am using Raxco Perfectdisk, but will try OO tonight. Regards, -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: 01/12/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Yes we do. Increases speed on boot devices. Although, I strongly not recommend using Defrag on a SSD drive. You only have a number of write's to the memory cells before it does not work anymore. I use and recommend Diskeeper, because it is well integrated into Windows XP, Vista, 7, 2003 and 2009. I tried the OO and it worked well on an XP test computer. If the cost of OO was significantly less Diskeeper's Base I would recommend it to clients. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:22 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Yes. I use the defrag utility in WinXPpro once a month. Agreed it may not be the strongest available, but... :) Something wrong with this plan? Duncan On 01/12/2010 11:54, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You guys still run defraggers? On 1/12/2010 11:46 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I really find diskkeeper pretty blah. But their windows home server add on is nice Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tim Lidertimli...@adv-data.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:40:16 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Hello all, Did you guys forget Diskeeper. Diskeeper is the mother of all Defraggers. http://www.diskeeper.com/ It even prevents a majority of fragmentation. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! So just got an email for half-price on OO Defrag 12 Pro; so $14.95 instead of $30...has anyone who tried out OO think that it's worth that price for v12 vs the free v10? 48 hr deal only for anyone who registered to dl the v10 through the link Zul sent (thanks again for that btw!). BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! The larger companies have more budget for development and hence you can expect better algorithims for defragging. That may not always be the case but is pretty much the norm. Right now I am using Raxco Perfectdisk, but will try OO tonight. Regards, -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: 01/12/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
At 03:22 PM 1/12/2010, DSinc wrote: Yes. I use the defrag utility in WinXPpro once a month. Agreed it may not be the strongest available, but... :) Something wrong with this plan? It won't do anything for you speed wise, but I doubt it hurts. T
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
At 04:10 PM 1/12/2010, Tim Lider wrote: Yes we do. Increases speed on boot devices. Although, I strongly not recommend using Defrag on a SSD drive. You only have a number of write's to the memory cells before it does not work anymore. I do a lot of speed tune ups for customers, and have never been able to see any speed increase by defragging. I'll try it again and see what I find. T
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Hello Thane, Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 12:23:28 PM, you wrote: At 12:54 PM 1/12/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You guys still run defraggers? That's what I was thinking. I've never been able to show an improvement in speed with a defragger in years. I did some tests about five years ago and after repeatedly failing to get any better than a 5% improvement, I stopped bothering. I defrag with windows native once - maybe twice a year. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
I use Diskeeper for a manual defrag every now and then. I don't like it running in the background however as it sometimes causes a noticeable drag on performance. On 1/12/2010 10:54 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: You guys still run defraggers? On 1/12/2010 11:46 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I really find diskkeeper pretty blah. But their windows home server add on is nice Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tim Lidertimli...@adv-data.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:40:16 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Hello all, Did you guys forget Diskeeper. Diskeeper is the mother of all Defraggers. http://www.diskeeper.com/ It even prevents a majority of fragmentation. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bino Gopal Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! So just got an email for half-price on OO Defrag 12 Pro; so $14.95 instead of $30...has anyone who tried out OO think that it's worth that price for v12 vs the free v10? 48 hr deal only for anyone who registered to dl the v10 through the link Zul sent (thanks again for that btw!). BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! The larger companies have more budget for development and hence you can expect better algorithims for defragging. That may not always be the case but is pretty much the norm. Right now I am using Raxco Perfectdisk, but will try OO tonight. Regards, -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.136/2616 - Release Date: 01/12/10 02:35:00
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
The larger companies have more budget for development and hence you can expect better algorithims for defragging. That may not always be the case but is pretty much the norm. Right now I am using Raxco Perfectdisk, but will try OO tonight. Regards, -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 1:33 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Thanks Z, I'll give it a spin. Recently I've been using MyDefrag AKA jkDefrag. Don't know how good a job it's been doing but I do like that it's real lightweight on the resources. Happy New Year all... On 1/1/2010 12:14 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
Hello Steve, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 6:30:14 PM, you wrote: You must have missed this link: http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap In short, you have a tiny noiseless PC that has HDMI out and can run at least 720p and most of the time 1080p because of the ION chip. Ok , I want to make one of these... thats really, pretty kewl. Anyone bought one? Where at? Any other info not found on the site to share? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
I picked one up at newegg. Used it for a side room. Connects straight to whs, and does 720p with no issues at all. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Joe User joeu...@chronic.org Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 12:39:02 To: Steve Tomporowskihardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Hello Steve, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 6:30:14 PM, you wrote: You must have missed this link: http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap In short, you have a tiny noiseless PC that has HDMI out and can run at least 720p and most of the time 1080p because of the ION chip. Ok , I want to make one of these... thats really, pretty kewl. Anyone bought one? Where at? Any other info not found on the site to share? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
Are you using windows or Linux? Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 3, 2010, at 9:40 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I picked one up at newegg. Used it for a side room. Connects straight to whs, and does 720p with no issues at all. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Joe User joeu...@chronic.org Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 12:39:02 To: Steve Tomporowskihardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Hello Steve, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 6:30:14 PM, you wrote: You must have missed this link: http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap In short, you have a tiny noiseless PC that has HDMI out and can run at least 720p and most of the time 1080p because of the ION chip. Ok , I want to make one of these... thats really, pretty kewl. Anyone bought one? Where at? Any other info not found on the site to share? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
Windows7. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:00:02 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.comhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Are you using windows or Linux? Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 3, 2010, at 9:40 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I picked one up at newegg. Used it for a side room. Connects straight to whs, and does 720p with no issues at all. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Joe User joeu...@chronic.org Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 12:39:02 To: Steve Tomporowskihardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Hello Steve, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 6:30:14 PM, you wrote: You must have missed this link: http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap In short, you have a tiny noiseless PC that has HDMI out and can run at least 720p and most of the time 1080p because of the ION chip. Ok , I want to make one of these... thats really, pretty kewl. Anyone bought one? Where at? Any other info not found on the site to share? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
I think Linux would work better. Lifehacker has an article about that. With vdapau you can get full accelleration via the nvidia chipset. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 3, 2010, at 11:07 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Windows7. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:00:02 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.comhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Are you using windows or Linux? Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 3, 2010, at 9:40 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I picked one up at newegg. Used it for a side room. Connects straight to whs, and does 720p with no issues at all. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Joe User joeu...@chronic.org Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 12:39:02 To: Steve Tomporowskihardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Hello Steve, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 6:30:14 PM, you wrote: You must have missed this link: http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap In short, you have a tiny noiseless PC that has HDMI out and can run at least 720p and most of the time 1080p because of the ION chip. Ok , I want to make one of these... thats really, pretty kewl. Anyone bought one? Where at? Any other info not found on the site to share? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
*laugh* most likely true. But 'works better' to mean in part less coaching of my 66 year old mom, who can easily work the media center interface from a remote. I don't know if I have the stamina or time to coax her through any linux or without a simple remote Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 00:01:16 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.comhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo I think Linux would work better. Lifehacker has an article about that. With vdapau you can get full accelleration via the nvidia chipset. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 3, 2010, at 11:07 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Windows7. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:00:02 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.comhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Are you using windows or Linux? Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 3, 2010, at 9:40 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I picked one up at newegg. Used it for a side room. Connects straight to whs, and does 720p with no issues at all. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Joe User joeu...@chronic.org Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 12:39:02 To: Steve Tomporowskihardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Hello Steve, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 6:30:14 PM, you wrote: You must have missed this link: http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap In short, you have a tiny noiseless PC that has HDMI out and can run at least 720p and most of the time 1080p because of the ION chip. Ok , I want to make one of these... thats really, pretty kewl. Anyone bought one? Where at? Any other info not found on the site to share? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
But you shouldn't have to deal with that - you install XBMC Live, which boots linux and into XBMC directly. Then you can just use the remote. The only issue with Linux is if something goes wrong. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:18 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: *laugh* most likely true. But 'works better' to mean in part less coaching of my 66 year old mom, who can easily work the media center interface from a remote. I don't know if I have the stamina or time to coax her through any linux or without a simple remote Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 00:01:16 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.comhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo I think Linux would work better. Lifehacker has an article about that. With vdapau you can get full accelleration via the nvidia chipset. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 3, 2010, at 11:07 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Windows7. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Zulfiqar Naushad z00...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:00:02 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.comhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Are you using windows or Linux? Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 3, 2010, at 9:40 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I picked one up at newegg. Used it for a side room. Connects straight to whs, and does 720p with no issues at all. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Joe User joeu...@chronic.org Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 12:39:02 To: Steve Tomporowskihardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Hello Steve, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 6:30:14 PM, you wrote: You must have missed this link: http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap In short, you have a tiny noiseless PC that has HDMI out and can run at least 720p and most of the time 1080p because of the ION chip. Ok , I want to make one of these... thats really, pretty kewl. Anyone bought one? Where at? Any other info not found on the site to share? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
I've got the revo sitting here but haven't set it up yet. I plan on using XBMC which will be a learning experience for me. Then I'll try to get it to run with a hauppauge remote. It's much more fun to cobble things together;-) Steve Joe User wrote: Hello Steve, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 6:30:14 PM, you wrote: You must have missed this link: http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap In short, you have a tiny noiseless PC that has HDMI out and can run at least 720p and most of the time 1080p because of the ION chip. Ok , I want to make one of these... thats really, pretty kewl. Anyone bought one? Where at? Any other info not found on the site to share? __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4740 (20100103) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
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Thanks, Z. How did you find that link? I was looking for a link to their old products, but didn't have any luck Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: Glad to be of help. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 1, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad -- Bryan G. Seitz __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
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Thanks, but I don't feel that lucky. Rick Glazier From: Zulfiqar Naushad You could try. But I think the key would not work. Rick Glazier I'm pretty sure it is a bad idea to install the ver 12 and try the old ver 10 key...
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
Thanks, Z. I wanted to know what I missed. Steve Incidentally, if you are looking for an Aspire Revo and don't want to wait (like I didn't), Best Buy has them, only they don't know what they've got. The price here was $199.99. I just went in to see if I could find a netbook or other with an Nvidia Ion Chipset. The 'Geek Squad' guy was clueless. He said they don't carry Aspire Revo's and there was one sitting right next to the register. Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: From their main page click downloads the. On the downloads page look at the left for the archive link. Got it from there. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Z. How did you find that link? I was looking for a link to their old products, but didn't have any luck Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: Glad to be of help. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 1, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad -- Bryan G. Seitz __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4737 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4738 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
Err, what's an Aspire Revo and why would I want to run out to my local BB and grab one (if there's any left that is)? ;) I'd thought that the Asus Eee Pcs were the ones to have as far as netbooks went, no? BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:18 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Thanks, Z. I wanted to know what I missed. Steve Incidentally, if you are looking for an Aspire Revo and don't want to wait (like I didn't), Best Buy has them, only they don't know what they've got. The price here was $199.99. I just went in to see if I could find a netbook or other with an Nvidia Ion Chipset. The 'Geek Squad' guy was clueless. He said they don't carry Aspire Revo's and there was one sitting right next to the register. Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: From their main page click downloads the. On the downloads page look at the left for the archive link. Got it from there. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Z. How did you find that link? I was looking for a link to their old products, but didn't have any luck Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: Glad to be of help. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 1, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad -- Bryan G. Seitz __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4737 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4738 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
Its a desktop powered by an atom + nvidia's ion chipser. Which means hdmi outputs, high def.. You can get them with os installed, hdd, full setup less then $200. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bino Gopal binogo...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:02:51 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Err, what's an Aspire Revo and why would I want to run out to my local BB and grab one (if there's any left that is)? ;) I'd thought that the Asus Eee Pcs were the ones to have as far as netbooks went, no? BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:18 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Thanks, Z. I wanted to know what I missed. Steve Incidentally, if you are looking for an Aspire Revo and don't want to wait (like I didn't), Best Buy has them, only they don't know what they've got. The price here was $199.99. I just went in to see if I could find a netbook or other with an Nvidia Ion Chipset. The 'Geek Squad' guy was clueless. He said they don't carry Aspire Revo's and there was one sitting right next to the register. Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: From their main page click downloads the. On the downloads page look at the left for the archive link. Got it from there. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Z. How did you find that link? I was looking for a link to their old products, but didn't have any luck Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: Glad to be of help. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 1, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad -- Bryan G. Seitz __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4737 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4738 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
Bino, You must have missed this link: http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap In short, you have a tiny noiseless PC that has HDMI out and can run at least 720p and most of the time 1080p because of the ION chip. Steve tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Its a desktop powered by an atom + nvidia's ion chipser. Which means hdmi outputs, high def.. You can get them with os installed, hdd, full setup less then $200. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bino Gopal binogo...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:02:51 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Err, what's an Aspire Revo and why would I want to run out to my local BB and grab one (if there's any left that is)? ;) I'd thought that the Asus Eee Pcs were the ones to have as far as netbooks went, no? BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:18 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Thanks, Z. I wanted to know what I missed. Steve Incidentally, if you are looking for an Aspire Revo and don't want to wait (like I didn't), Best Buy has them, only they don't know what they've got. The price here was $199.99. I just went in to see if I could find a netbook or other with an Nvidia Ion Chipset. The 'Geek Squad' guy was clueless. He said they don't carry Aspire Revo's and there was one sitting right next to the register. Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: From their main page click downloads the. On the downloads page look at the left for the archive link. Got it from there. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Z. How did you find that link? I was looking for a link to their old products, but didn't have any luck Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: Glad to be of help. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 1, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad -- Bryan G. Seitz __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4737 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4738 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4738 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
Uh? This is like D-TV and/or mini HDTVPC? Well, that's my read. D tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Its a desktop powered by an atom + nvidia's ion chipser. Which means hdmi outputs, high def.. You can get them with os installed, hdd, full setup less then $200. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bino Gopal binogo...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:02:51 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Err, what's an Aspire Revo and why would I want to run out to my local BB and grab one (if there's any left that is)? ;) I'd thought that the Asus Eee Pcs were the ones to have as far as netbooks went, no? BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:18 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Thanks, Z. I wanted to know what I missed. Steve Incidentally, if you are looking for an Aspire Revo and don't want to wait (like I didn't), Best Buy has them, only they don't know what they've got. The price here was $199.99. I just went in to see if I could find a netbook or other with an Nvidia Ion Chipset. The 'Geek Squad' guy was clueless. He said they don't carry Aspire Revo's and there was one sitting right next to the register. Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: From their main page click downloads the. On the downloads page look at the left for the archive link. Got it from there. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Z. How did you find that link? I was looking for a link to their old products, but didn't have any luck Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: Glad to be of help. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 1, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad -- Bryan G. Seitz __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4737 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4738 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo
No, its a full pc. Just designed in mini. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:00:55 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Uh? This is like D-TV and/or mini HDTVPC? Well, that's my read. D tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Its a desktop powered by an atom + nvidia's ion chipser. Which means hdmi outputs, high def.. You can get them with os installed, hdd, full setup less then $200. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bino Gopal binogo...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:02:51 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Err, what's an Aspire Revo and why would I want to run out to my local BB and grab one (if there's any left that is)? ;) I'd thought that the Asus Eee Pcs were the ones to have as far as netbooks went, no? BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:18 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!/Aspire Revo Thanks, Z. I wanted to know what I missed. Steve Incidentally, if you are looking for an Aspire Revo and don't want to wait (like I didn't), Best Buy has them, only they don't know what they've got. The price here was $199.99. I just went in to see if I could find a netbook or other with an Nvidia Ion Chipset. The 'Geek Squad' guy was clueless. He said they don't carry Aspire Revo's and there was one sitting right next to the register. Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: From their main page click downloads the. On the downloads page look at the left for the archive link. Got it from there. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Z. How did you find that link? I was looking for a link to their old products, but didn't have any luck Steve Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: Glad to be of help. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 1, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad -- Bryan G. Seitz __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4737 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4738 (20100102) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I've got a key now, how the heck do I download it? Bryan Seitz wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
They give you the link in the email they sent, or go to the website and download the trial, which can be activated. Jeff Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I've got a key now, how the heck do I download it? Bryan Seitz wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Have you been to that link? It only has version 12, not 10 Jeff Lane wrote: They give you the link in the email they sent, or go to the website and download the trial, which can be activated. Jeff Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I've got a key now, how the heck do I download it? Bryan Seitz wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Steve, It's the same on their site in their download section, unless you found something else. I downloaded the 64-bit version and haven't installed it in Win 7 yet as I have a dual boot and have a lot to do in XP right now, including email. You might try to install ver. 12 with what they sent. Let us know if it works. Thanks. Jeff Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Have you been to that link? It only has version 12, not 10 Jeff Lane wrote: They give you the link in the email they sent, or go to the website and download the trial, which can be activated. Jeff Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I've got a key now, how the heck do I download it? Bryan Seitz wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
http://www.oo-software.com/en/download/ Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 16:10:54 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I've got a key now, how the heck do I download it? Bryan Seitz wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
More specifically here... http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/download/archive/index.php?product=oodefrag10pro On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:46 AM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: http://www.oo-software.com/en/download/ Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 16:10:54 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I've got a key now, how the heck do I download it? Bryan Seitz wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
That link works here. (Thanks.) I had previously found it by looking in their archive section. I'm pretty sure it is a bad idea to install the ver 12 and try the old ver 10 key... Rick Glazier From: Naushad Zulfiqar More specifically here... http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/download/archive/index.php?product=oodefrag10pro
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
You could try. But I think the key would not work. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 2, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Rick Glazier rickglaz...@gmail.com wrote: That link works here. (Thanks.) I had previously found it by looking in their archive section. I'm pretty sure it is a bad idea to install the ver 12 and try the old ver 10 key... Rick Glazier From: Naushad Zulfiqar More specifically here... http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/download/archive/index.php?product=oodefrag10pro
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Go to the archive section to dowload version 10. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 2, 2010, at 12:33 AM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: Have you been to that link? It only has version 12, not 10 Jeff Lane wrote: They give you the link in the email they sent, or go to the website and download the trial, which can be activated. Jeff Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG! Maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I've got a key now, how the heck do I download it? Bryan Seitz wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4736 (20100101) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Free new years gift for HWG!
Glad to be of help. Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad On Jan 1, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: Nice, thanks! On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:14:46PM +0300, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Read, download and enjoy! http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/special/komputerswiat/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad -- Bryan G. Seitz
