Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
Probably not with those adapters. 2560x1440 support is iffy with HDMI prior to 1.4 (even though 1.3 -should- support it), and most HDMI/DP to DVI adapters are single link--and that resolution requires dual-link DVI. You could try using HDMI directly, as the PB278Q supports it natively. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 8:10 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor The Asus is great on my main system...running at max res of 2560 x 1440 on the DP input. However, I have an MBA 2011 with Intel HD3000 Graphics. I'm using its mini-DP output, into a cable that outputs HDMI, into an HDMI-DVI cable...into the DVI input on the Asus. However, I can only get 1920 x 1080p under OS X ML. Is there a way to force this to 2560 x 1440 on either the DVI or HDMI input? On 2/26/2013 6:20 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: > DP uses a smaller connector, smaller cable, uses a latch instead of annoying > screws for retention, doesn't require dual-link outputs and cables for high > resolutions (higher bandwidth). It can also carry audio. It's very similar > to the latest iterations of HDMI but without the licensing fees. > > The scaler is what adapts the input resolution to the screen's actual > resolution. An LCD can only display its native resolution and nothing > else--a scaler is required to run anything not native. That can be important > when considering things like system POST, diagnostics, etc. Some video cards > (and almost all of the last gen or two) have built-in scalers, but it's nice > to not have to even worry about it. It's also nice to have some legacy > inputs (e.g., d-sub) for special situations--and you don't normally find > anything but a single digital input on screens that lack a scaler. > > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. > Martin > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:08 AM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor > > I'm about the hit the order switch on this guy... > > a couple more questionswhy DisplayPort? I have DVI and HDMI (IIRC). > Is there some benefit to Displayport over these two? Bandwidth or > something? What kind of vidcard drives two of these babies (with > Displayport, I mean)? > > Also, what exactly is a "scaler"? Is this the feature that lets you view > images at actual size (Quickfit)? > > On 2/25/2013 12:15 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: >> I always keep my best stuff at home. :) Something feels wrong about taking >> my best gear to work...but I do spend more time at home than at work. I > have >> a lot of flexibility to work from home when I want to, so it's helpful in >> that situation too. >> >> The best case for the Asus is the panel itself I think. Text, already > hugely >> improved over most displays by virtue of the smaller dot pitch, looks even >> better on the PB278Q, which I believe is due to better contrast (improved >> black level). Frankly, text quality is what won me over on the 27" > 2560x1440 >> size/resolution. It's incredible. The PLS panel is the same one Samsung > uses >> on some of their more expensive displays--and in this case, it's an A+ > grade >> panel, not A- as you find on most of the cheaper/import IPS units. IPS and >> PLS are very similar technology wise--PLS is really just Samsung's take on >> LG's IPS. The fully adjustable stand (height adjustment, tilt, rotate, and >> pivot) is certainly also an improvement. The screen is so large that I'm > not >> sure that rotating to portrait mode is really practical, but the option is >> nice. >> >> Couple all of that with a good internal scaler and the no-compromise >> complement of input options--including DisplayPort, my preferred > choice--and >> it was an easy decision for me. The only real downside is that it uses a >> relatively low cycle frequency for PWM backlight control, but I didn't > know >> about it beforehand and it hasn't bothered me at all. There's a long forum >> thread on this particular model if you're interested: >> http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1713774 >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >> [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. >> Martin >> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:55 AM >> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: Re: [H] IPS
Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
The Asus is great on my main system...running at max res of 2560 x 1440 on the DP input. However, I have an MBA 2011 with Intel HD3000 Graphics. I'm using its mini-DP output, into a cable that outputs HDMI, into an HDMI-DVI cable...into the DVI input on the Asus. However, I can only get 1920 x 1080p under OS X ML. Is there a way to force this to 2560 x 1440 on either the DVI or HDMI input? On 2/26/2013 6:20 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: DP uses a smaller connector, smaller cable, uses a latch instead of annoying screws for retention, doesn't require dual-link outputs and cables for high resolutions (higher bandwidth). It can also carry audio. It's very similar to the latest iterations of HDMI but without the licensing fees. The scaler is what adapts the input resolution to the screen's actual resolution. An LCD can only display its native resolution and nothing else--a scaler is required to run anything not native. That can be important when considering things like system POST, diagnostics, etc. Some video cards (and almost all of the last gen or two) have built-in scalers, but it's nice to not have to even worry about it. It's also nice to have some legacy inputs (e.g., d-sub) for special situations--and you don't normally find anything but a single digital input on screens that lack a scaler. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:08 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor I'm about the hit the order switch on this guy... a couple more questionswhy DisplayPort? I have DVI and HDMI (IIRC). Is there some benefit to Displayport over these two? Bandwidth or something? What kind of vidcard drives two of these babies (with Displayport, I mean)? Also, what exactly is a "scaler"? Is this the feature that lets you view images at actual size (Quickfit)? On 2/25/2013 12:15 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: I always keep my best stuff at home. :) Something feels wrong about taking my best gear to work...but I do spend more time at home than at work. I have a lot of flexibility to work from home when I want to, so it's helpful in that situation too. The best case for the Asus is the panel itself I think. Text, already hugely improved over most displays by virtue of the smaller dot pitch, looks even better on the PB278Q, which I believe is due to better contrast (improved black level). Frankly, text quality is what won me over on the 27" 2560x1440 size/resolution. It's incredible. The PLS panel is the same one Samsung uses on some of their more expensive displays--and in this case, it's an A+ grade panel, not A- as you find on most of the cheaper/import IPS units. IPS and PLS are very similar technology wise--PLS is really just Samsung's take on LG's IPS. The fully adjustable stand (height adjustment, tilt, rotate, and pivot) is certainly also an improvement. The screen is so large that I'm not sure that rotating to portrait mode is really practical, but the option is nice. Couple all of that with a good internal scaler and the no-compromise complement of input options--including DisplayPort, my preferred choice--and it was an easy decision for me. The only real downside is that it uses a relatively low cycle frequency for PWM backlight control, but I didn't know about it beforehand and it hasn't bothered me at all. There's a long forum thread on this particular model if you're interested: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1713774 -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:55 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor You run your Asus monitors at home rather than work because you are at home more? I take it you find the extra features of the asus to be worth the extra price, too, right? I would like the option to go vertical if I want to... On 2/25/2013 11:45 AM, Greg Sevart wrote: A lot of people get confused between IPS glow, which is just a side-effect of the technology that can make off-axis areas appear to have a glow, and real backlight bleed. Plus, most photos of BLB are gross exaggerations of what it looks like in real life--unless it's really bad, you need to have an all-black screen in a pitch black room to even notice. I would argue the use case for that scenario is invalid. All panels have BLB to varying degrees. I'm not sensitive to it, so it doesn't bother me. That said, my two Asus monitors have less BLB than the Aurias did, but none of the 4 were at all bad. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.c
Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
Thanks for the info. the monitor should arrive tomorrow. On 2/26/2013 6:20 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: DP uses a smaller connector, smaller cable, uses a latch instead of annoying screws for retention, doesn't require dual-link outputs and cables for high resolutions (higher bandwidth). It can also carry audio. It's very similar to the latest iterations of HDMI but without the licensing fees. The scaler is what adapts the input resolution to the screen's actual resolution. An LCD can only display its native resolution and nothing else--a scaler is required to run anything not native. That can be important when considering things like system POST, diagnostics, etc. Some video cards (and almost all of the last gen or two) have built-in scalers, but it's nice to not have to even worry about it. It's also nice to have some legacy inputs (e.g., d-sub) for special situations--and you don't normally find anything but a single digital input on screens that lack a scaler. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:08 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor I'm about the hit the order switch on this guy... a couple more questionswhy DisplayPort? I have DVI and HDMI (IIRC). Is there some benefit to Displayport over these two? Bandwidth or something? What kind of vidcard drives two of these babies (with Displayport, I mean)? Also, what exactly is a "scaler"? Is this the feature that lets you view images at actual size (Quickfit)? On 2/25/2013 12:15 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: I always keep my best stuff at home. :) Something feels wrong about taking my best gear to work...but I do spend more time at home than at work. I have a lot of flexibility to work from home when I want to, so it's helpful in that situation too. The best case for the Asus is the panel itself I think. Text, already hugely improved over most displays by virtue of the smaller dot pitch, looks even better on the PB278Q, which I believe is due to better contrast (improved black level). Frankly, text quality is what won me over on the 27" 2560x1440 size/resolution. It's incredible. The PLS panel is the same one Samsung uses on some of their more expensive displays--and in this case, it's an A+ grade panel, not A- as you find on most of the cheaper/import IPS units. IPS and PLS are very similar technology wise--PLS is really just Samsung's take on LG's IPS. The fully adjustable stand (height adjustment, tilt, rotate, and pivot) is certainly also an improvement. The screen is so large that I'm not sure that rotating to portrait mode is really practical, but the option is nice. Couple all of that with a good internal scaler and the no-compromise complement of input options--including DisplayPort, my preferred choice--and it was an easy decision for me. The only real downside is that it uses a relatively low cycle frequency for PWM backlight control, but I didn't know about it beforehand and it hasn't bothered me at all. There's a long forum thread on this particular model if you're interested: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1713774 -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:55 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor You run your Asus monitors at home rather than work because you are at home more? I take it you find the extra features of the asus to be worth the extra price, too, right? I would like the option to go vertical if I want to... On 2/25/2013 11:45 AM, Greg Sevart wrote: A lot of people get confused between IPS glow, which is just a side-effect of the technology that can make off-axis areas appear to have a glow, and real backlight bleed. Plus, most photos of BLB are gross exaggerations of what it looks like in real life--unless it's really bad, you need to have an all-black screen in a pitch black room to even notice. I would argue the use case for that scenario is invalid. All panels have BLB to varying degrees. I'm not sensitive to it, so it doesn't bother me. That said, my two Asus monitors have less BLB than the Aurias did, but none of the 4 were at all bad. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:19 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor How are these on backlight bleed? I saw some of the dell units on Amazon showing some pretty serious bleed. I know this is something a lot of IPS panels exhibit to some degree. I get the point
Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
DP uses a smaller connector, smaller cable, uses a latch instead of annoying screws for retention, doesn't require dual-link outputs and cables for high resolutions (higher bandwidth). It can also carry audio. It's very similar to the latest iterations of HDMI but without the licensing fees. The scaler is what adapts the input resolution to the screen's actual resolution. An LCD can only display its native resolution and nothing else--a scaler is required to run anything not native. That can be important when considering things like system POST, diagnostics, etc. Some video cards (and almost all of the last gen or two) have built-in scalers, but it's nice to not have to even worry about it. It's also nice to have some legacy inputs (e.g., d-sub) for special situations--and you don't normally find anything but a single digital input on screens that lack a scaler. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:08 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor I'm about the hit the order switch on this guy... a couple more questionswhy DisplayPort? I have DVI and HDMI (IIRC). Is there some benefit to Displayport over these two? Bandwidth or something? What kind of vidcard drives two of these babies (with Displayport, I mean)? Also, what exactly is a "scaler"? Is this the feature that lets you view images at actual size (Quickfit)? On 2/25/2013 12:15 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: > I always keep my best stuff at home. :) Something feels wrong about taking > my best gear to work...but I do spend more time at home than at work. I have > a lot of flexibility to work from home when I want to, so it's helpful in > that situation too. > > The best case for the Asus is the panel itself I think. Text, already hugely > improved over most displays by virtue of the smaller dot pitch, looks even > better on the PB278Q, which I believe is due to better contrast (improved > black level). Frankly, text quality is what won me over on the 27" 2560x1440 > size/resolution. It's incredible. The PLS panel is the same one Samsung uses > on some of their more expensive displays--and in this case, it's an A+ grade > panel, not A- as you find on most of the cheaper/import IPS units. IPS and > PLS are very similar technology wise--PLS is really just Samsung's take on > LG's IPS. The fully adjustable stand (height adjustment, tilt, rotate, and > pivot) is certainly also an improvement. The screen is so large that I'm not > sure that rotating to portrait mode is really practical, but the option is > nice. > > Couple all of that with a good internal scaler and the no-compromise > complement of input options--including DisplayPort, my preferred choice--and > it was an easy decision for me. The only real downside is that it uses a > relatively low cycle frequency for PWM backlight control, but I didn't know > about it beforehand and it hasn't bothered me at all. There's a long forum > thread on this particular model if you're interested: > http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1713774 > > > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. > Martin > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:55 AM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor > > You run your Asus monitors at home rather than work because you are at > home more? I take it you find the extra features of the asus to be > worth the extra price, too, right? I would like the option to go > vertical if I want to... > On 2/25/2013 11:45 AM, Greg Sevart wrote: >> A lot of people get confused between IPS glow, which is just a side-effect >> of the technology that can make off-axis areas appear to have a glow, and >> real backlight bleed. Plus, most photos of BLB are gross exaggerations of >> what it looks like in real life--unless it's really bad, you need to have > an >> all-black screen in a pitch black room to even notice. I would argue the > use >> case for that scenario is invalid. >> >> All panels have BLB to varying degrees. I'm not sensitive to it, so it >> doesn't bother me. That said, my two Asus monitors have less BLB than the >> Aurias did, but none of the 4 were at all bad. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >> [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. >> Martin >> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:19 AM >> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup
Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
I'm about the hit the order switch on this guy... a couple more questionswhy DisplayPort? I have DVI and HDMI (IIRC). Is there some benefit to Displayport over these two? Bandwidth or something? What kind of vidcard drives two of these babies (with Displayport, I mean)? Also, what exactly is a "scaler"? Is this the feature that lets you view images at actual size (Quickfit)? On 2/25/2013 12:15 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: I always keep my best stuff at home. :) Something feels wrong about taking my best gear to work...but I do spend more time at home than at work. I have a lot of flexibility to work from home when I want to, so it's helpful in that situation too. The best case for the Asus is the panel itself I think. Text, already hugely improved over most displays by virtue of the smaller dot pitch, looks even better on the PB278Q, which I believe is due to better contrast (improved black level). Frankly, text quality is what won me over on the 27" 2560x1440 size/resolution. It's incredible. The PLS panel is the same one Samsung uses on some of their more expensive displays--and in this case, it's an A+ grade panel, not A- as you find on most of the cheaper/import IPS units. IPS and PLS are very similar technology wise--PLS is really just Samsung's take on LG's IPS. The fully adjustable stand (height adjustment, tilt, rotate, and pivot) is certainly also an improvement. The screen is so large that I'm not sure that rotating to portrait mode is really practical, but the option is nice. Couple all of that with a good internal scaler and the no-compromise complement of input options--including DisplayPort, my preferred choice--and it was an easy decision for me. The only real downside is that it uses a relatively low cycle frequency for PWM backlight control, but I didn't know about it beforehand and it hasn't bothered me at all. There's a long forum thread on this particular model if you're interested: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1713774 -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:55 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor You run your Asus monitors at home rather than work because you are at home more? I take it you find the extra features of the asus to be worth the extra price, too, right? I would like the option to go vertical if I want to... On 2/25/2013 11:45 AM, Greg Sevart wrote: A lot of people get confused between IPS glow, which is just a side-effect of the technology that can make off-axis areas appear to have a glow, and real backlight bleed. Plus, most photos of BLB are gross exaggerations of what it looks like in real life--unless it's really bad, you need to have an all-black screen in a pitch black room to even notice. I would argue the use case for that scenario is invalid. All panels have BLB to varying degrees. I'm not sensitive to it, so it doesn't bother me. That said, my two Asus monitors have less BLB than the Aurias did, but none of the 4 were at all bad. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:19 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor How are these on backlight bleed? I saw some of the dell units on Amazon showing some pretty serious bleed. I know this is something a lot of IPS panels exhibit to some degree. I get the point about dead pixels. On 2/25/2013 10:32 AM, Greg Sevart wrote: 27" 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each, and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare, multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units at home, and the Aurias at work. The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these. http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294 -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
I always keep my best stuff at home. :) Something feels wrong about taking my best gear to work...but I do spend more time at home than at work. I have a lot of flexibility to work from home when I want to, so it's helpful in that situation too. The best case for the Asus is the panel itself I think. Text, already hugely improved over most displays by virtue of the smaller dot pitch, looks even better on the PB278Q, which I believe is due to better contrast (improved black level). Frankly, text quality is what won me over on the 27" 2560x1440 size/resolution. It's incredible. The PLS panel is the same one Samsung uses on some of their more expensive displays--and in this case, it's an A+ grade panel, not A- as you find on most of the cheaper/import IPS units. IPS and PLS are very similar technology wise--PLS is really just Samsung's take on LG's IPS. The fully adjustable stand (height adjustment, tilt, rotate, and pivot) is certainly also an improvement. The screen is so large that I'm not sure that rotating to portrait mode is really practical, but the option is nice. Couple all of that with a good internal scaler and the no-compromise complement of input options--including DisplayPort, my preferred choice--and it was an easy decision for me. The only real downside is that it uses a relatively low cycle frequency for PWM backlight control, but I didn't know about it beforehand and it hasn't bothered me at all. There's a long forum thread on this particular model if you're interested: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1713774 -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:55 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor You run your Asus monitors at home rather than work because you are at home more? I take it you find the extra features of the asus to be worth the extra price, too, right? I would like the option to go vertical if I want to... On 2/25/2013 11:45 AM, Greg Sevart wrote: > A lot of people get confused between IPS glow, which is just a side-effect > of the technology that can make off-axis areas appear to have a glow, and > real backlight bleed. Plus, most photos of BLB are gross exaggerations of > what it looks like in real life--unless it's really bad, you need to have an > all-black screen in a pitch black room to even notice. I would argue the use > case for that scenario is invalid. > > All panels have BLB to varying degrees. I'm not sensitive to it, so it > doesn't bother me. That said, my two Asus monitors have less BLB than the > Aurias did, but none of the 4 were at all bad. > > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. > Martin > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:19 AM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor > > How are these on backlight bleed? I saw some of the dell units on > Amazon showing some pretty serious bleed. I know this is something a > lot of IPS panels exhibit to some degree. > > I get the point about dead pixels. > > On 2/25/2013 10:32 AM, Greg Sevart wrote: >> 27" 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas >> shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a >> scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter > (same >> IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each, >> and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare, >> multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better >> contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus > units >> at home, and the Aurias at work. >> >> The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel > in >> the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen >> are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, > and >> never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead >> pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these. >> >> >> http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294 >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >> [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. >> Martin >> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM >> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >
Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
You run your Asus monitors at home rather than work because you are at home more? I take it you find the extra features of the asus to be worth the extra price, too, right? I would like the option to go vertical if I want to... On 2/25/2013 11:45 AM, Greg Sevart wrote: A lot of people get confused between IPS glow, which is just a side-effect of the technology that can make off-axis areas appear to have a glow, and real backlight bleed. Plus, most photos of BLB are gross exaggerations of what it looks like in real life--unless it's really bad, you need to have an all-black screen in a pitch black room to even notice. I would argue the use case for that scenario is invalid. All panels have BLB to varying degrees. I'm not sensitive to it, so it doesn't bother me. That said, my two Asus monitors have less BLB than the Aurias did, but none of the 4 were at all bad. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:19 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor How are these on backlight bleed? I saw some of the dell units on Amazon showing some pretty serious bleed. I know this is something a lot of IPS panels exhibit to some degree. I get the point about dead pixels. On 2/25/2013 10:32 AM, Greg Sevart wrote: 27" 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each, and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare, multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units at home, and the Aurias at work. The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these. http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294 -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor. Are the Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative? One that is less expensive? I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that comes from overseas? With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20 (can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?
Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
A lot of people get confused between IPS glow, which is just a side-effect of the technology that can make off-axis areas appear to have a glow, and real backlight bleed. Plus, most photos of BLB are gross exaggerations of what it looks like in real life--unless it's really bad, you need to have an all-black screen in a pitch black room to even notice. I would argue the use case for that scenario is invalid. All panels have BLB to varying degrees. I'm not sensitive to it, so it doesn't bother me. That said, my two Asus monitors have less BLB than the Aurias did, but none of the 4 were at all bad. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:19 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor How are these on backlight bleed? I saw some of the dell units on Amazon showing some pretty serious bleed. I know this is something a lot of IPS panels exhibit to some degree. I get the point about dead pixels. On 2/25/2013 10:32 AM, Greg Sevart wrote: > 27" 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas > shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a > scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same > IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each, > and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare, > multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better > contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units > at home, and the Aurias at work. > > The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in > the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen > are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and > never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead > pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these. > > > http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294 > > > > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. > Martin > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor > > Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor. Are the > Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative? One > that is less expensive? I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that > comes from overseas? With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20 > (can't have no dead pixels, can we?)? > > >
Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
How are these on backlight bleed? I saw some of the dell units on Amazon showing some pretty serious bleed. I know this is something a lot of IPS panels exhibit to some degree. I get the point about dead pixels. On 2/25/2013 10:32 AM, Greg Sevart wrote: 27" 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each, and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare, multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units at home, and the Aurias at work. The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these. http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294 -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor. Are the Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative? One that is less expensive? I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that comes from overseas? With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20 (can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?
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I like how Monoprice says if you can count 5 dead pixels, we will give you another one. What about backlight bleed? Can this be a problem? Also, I like that you can put some of these in portrait mode. On 2/25/2013 10:34 AM, joeu...@chronic.org wrote: How about this? http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=9579&seq=1&format=2 Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor From: "Greg Sevart" Date: Mon, February 25, 2013 9:32 am To: 27" 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each, and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare, multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units at home, and the Aurias at work. The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these. http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294 -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor. Are the Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative? One that is less expensive? I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that comes from overseas? With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20 (can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?
Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
Another good option, but note that it has only a dual-link DVI input, no scaler, and no OSD. The lack of scaler means that it should have low input lag for gaming though, if you're sensitive to that. The stands and bezels on all the cheap ones are pretty...er, cheap too. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of joeu...@chronic.org Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 9:35 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor How about this? http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=9579&seq=1&format=2 Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor > From: "Greg Sevart" > Date: Mon, February 25, 2013 9:32 am > To: > > > 27" 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas > shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a > scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same > IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each, > and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare, > multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better > contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units > at home, and the Aurias at work. > > The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in > the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen > are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and > never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead > pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these. > > > http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294 > > > > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. > Martin > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor > > Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor. Are the > Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative? One > that is less expensive? I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that > comes from overseas? With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20 > (can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?
Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
How about this? http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=9579&seq=1&format=2 Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." > Original Message ---- > Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor > From: "Greg Sevart" > Date: Mon, February 25, 2013 9:32 am > To: > > > 27" 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas > shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a > scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same > IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each, > and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare, > multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better > contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units > at home, and the Aurias at work. > > The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in > the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen > are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and > never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead > pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these. > > > http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294 > > > > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. > Martin > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor > > Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor. Are the > Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative? One > that is less expensive? I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that > comes from overseas? With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20 > (can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?
Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
27" 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each, and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare, multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units at home, and the Aurias at work. The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these. http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294 -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor. Are the Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative? One that is less expensive? I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that comes from overseas? With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20 (can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?
