Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

2009-07-11 Thread Gary
Cool thanks

> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:18 PM
> To: hwg
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?
> 
> It's stripped of features and AFAIK only does winxp but is better
> integrated.
> 
> So vmware and parallels are much more robust for advanced and general
> purpose.  Virtual xp is just there to ensure compatibility with win7.
> 
> The virtual xp thing is going to come with one of the win7 versions
> for free.
> 
> 
> -
> Brian Weeden
> Technical Advisor
> Secure World Foundation
> 
> On 11-Jul-09, at 4:13 PM, "Gary"  wrote:
> 
> > Is the virtual as good as vmware?
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> >> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:05 PM
> >> To: hwg
> >> Cc: 
> >> Subject: Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?
> >>
> >> Yes, it is like any other virtual appliance. In that regard.  Apps
> >> installed in win7 do not show up in virtual xp unless you reinstall
> >> them again.  But system devices and drives do.
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >> Brian Weeden
> >> Technical Advisor
> >> Secure World Foundation
> >>
> >> On 11-Jul-09, at 3:48 PM, "Gary"  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Do those apps run in win 7? Do apps installed in win 7 show up in
> xp
> >>> or is
> >>> it like any virtual?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> >>>> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:49 PM
> >>>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?
> >>>>
> >>>> Instead of dual booting, have you tried the Virtual XP option that
> >>>> comes
> >>>> with Win7?  It's a custom virtual PC add-on that works very well.
> >>>> What's so
> >>>> cool is that when you install apps in the virtual XP for all
> users,
> >>>> they
> >>>> show up in your Win7 start menu.  It's very slick.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://lifehacker.com/5245396/set-up-and-use-xp-mode-in-windows-7
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Brian Weeden
> >>>> Technical Advisor
> >>>> Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
> >>>> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
> >>>> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, John R Steinbruner
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yeah me too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I took Vista off my main machine and have been using the Win 7 RC
> >> as
> >>>> well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I dual boot to XP and Win 7 now, no more Vista in the house at
> >>>>> all.
> >>>> :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 11, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'll go ahead and admit it, I've been running win7 on my gaming
> >>>>> rig
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> months now... and it rocks.
> >>>>>> I'm stoked!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> JRS
> >>>>> stei...@pacbell.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Facts do not cease to exist just
> >>>>> because they are ignored.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >



Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

2009-07-11 Thread Brian Weeden
It's stripped of features and AFAIK only does winxp but is better  
integrated.


So vmware and parallels are much more robust for advanced and general  
purpose.  Virtual xp is just there to ensure compatibility with win7.


The virtual xp thing is going to come with one of the win7 versions  
for free.



-
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation

On 11-Jul-09, at 4:13 PM, "Gary"  wrote:


Is the virtual as good as vmware?


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:05 PM
To: hwg
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

Yes, it is like any other virtual appliance. In that regard.  Apps
installed in win7 do not show up in virtual xp unless you reinstall
them again.  But system devices and drives do.


-
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation

On 11-Jul-09, at 3:48 PM, "Gary"  wrote:


Do those apps run in win 7? Do apps installed in win 7 show up in xp
or is
it like any virtual?



-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:49 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

Instead of dual booting, have you tried the Virtual XP option that
comes
with Win7?  It's a custom virtual PC add-on that works very well.
What's so
cool is that when you install apps in the virtual XP for all users,
they
show up in your Win7 start menu.  It's very slick.

http://lifehacker.com/5245396/set-up-and-use-xp-mode-in-windows-7

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, John R Steinbruner
wrote:


Yeah me too.

I took Vista off my main machine and have been using the Win 7 RC

as

well.


I dual boot to XP and Win 7 now, no more Vista in the house at  
all.

:)





On Jul 11, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote:

I'll go ahead and admit it, I've been running win7 on my gaming  
rig

for

months now... and it rocks.
I'm stoked!




--
JRS
stei...@pacbell.net

Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.









Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

2009-07-11 Thread Gary
Is the virtual as good as vmware?

> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:05 PM
> To: hwg
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?
> 
> Yes, it is like any other virtual appliance. In that regard.  Apps
> installed in win7 do not show up in virtual xp unless you reinstall
> them again.  But system devices and drives do.
> 
> 
> -
> Brian Weeden
> Technical Advisor
> Secure World Foundation
> 
> On 11-Jul-09, at 3:48 PM, "Gary"  wrote:
> 
> > Do those apps run in win 7? Do apps installed in win 7 show up in xp
> > or is
> > it like any virtual?
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> >> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:49 PM
> >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> >> Subject: Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?
> >>
> >> Instead of dual booting, have you tried the Virtual XP option that
> >> comes
> >> with Win7?  It's a custom virtual PC add-on that works very well.
> >> What's so
> >> cool is that when you install apps in the virtual XP for all users,
> >> they
> >> show up in your Win7 start menu.  It's very slick.
> >>
> >> http://lifehacker.com/5245396/set-up-and-use-xp-mode-in-windows-7
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Brian Weeden
> >> Technical Advisor
> >> Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
> >> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
> >> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, John R Steinbruner
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yeah me too.
> >>>
> >>> I took Vista off my main machine and have been using the Win 7 RC
> as
> >> well.
> >>>
> >>> I dual boot to XP and Win 7 now, no more Vista in the house at all.
> >> :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 11, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'll go ahead and admit it, I've been running win7 on my gaming rig
> >> for
> >>>> months now... and it rocks.
> >>>> I'm stoked!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> JRS
> >>> stei...@pacbell.net
> >>>
> >>> Facts do not cease to exist just
> >>> because they are ignored.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >



Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

2009-07-11 Thread Brian Weeden
Yes, it is like any other virtual appliance. In that regard.  Apps  
installed in win7 do not show up in virtual xp unless you reinstall  
them again.  But system devices and drives do.



-
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation

On 11-Jul-09, at 3:48 PM, "Gary"  wrote:

Do those apps run in win 7? Do apps installed in win 7 show up in xp  
or is

it like any virtual?



-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:49 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

Instead of dual booting, have you tried the Virtual XP option that
comes
with Win7?  It's a custom virtual PC add-on that works very well.
What's so
cool is that when you install apps in the virtual XP for all users,
they
show up in your Win7 start menu.  It's very slick.

http://lifehacker.com/5245396/set-up-and-use-xp-mode-in-windows-7

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, John R Steinbruner
wrote:


Yeah me too.

I took Vista off my main machine and have been using the Win 7 RC as

well.


I dual boot to XP and Win 7 now, no more Vista in the house at all.

:)





On Jul 11, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote:

I'll go ahead and admit it, I've been running win7 on my gaming rig

for

months now... and it rocks.
I'm stoked!




--
JRS
stei...@pacbell.net

Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.







Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

2009-07-11 Thread tmservo
About 2.5g
--Original Message--
From: DSinc
Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?
Sent: Jul 11, 2009 2:58 PM

CW,
How large is the download for W7? Or, will it just be a small 
pre-installer
Best,
Duncan


CW wrote:
> For those TechNet/MSDN subscribers, supposedly monday we get access to the 
> RTM Windows 7.  I'm interested to see how well their servers hold up.
> 


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Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

2009-07-11 Thread DSinc

CW,
How large is the download for W7? Or, will it just be a small 
pre-installer

Best,
Duncan


CW wrote:

For those TechNet/MSDN subscribers, supposedly monday we get access to the RTM 
Windows 7.  I'm interested to see how well their servers hold up.



Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

2009-07-11 Thread Gary
Do those apps run in win 7? Do apps installed in win 7 show up in xp or is
it like any virtual?


> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 12:49 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?
> 
> Instead of dual booting, have you tried the Virtual XP option that
> comes
> with Win7?  It's a custom virtual PC add-on that works very well.
> What's so
> cool is that when you install apps in the virtual XP for all users,
> they
> show up in your Win7 start menu.  It's very slick.
> 
> http://lifehacker.com/5245396/set-up-and-use-xp-mode-in-windows-7
> 
> ---
> Brian Weeden
> Technical Advisor
> Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, John R Steinbruner
> wrote:
> 
> > Yeah me too.
> >
> >  I took Vista off my main machine and have been using the Win 7 RC as
> well.
> >
> >  I dual boot to XP and Win 7 now, no more Vista in the house at all.
> :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 11, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote:
> >
> >  I'll go ahead and admit it, I've been running win7 on my gaming rig
> for
> >> months now... and it rocks.
> >> I'm stoked!
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > JRS
> > stei...@pacbell.net
> >
> > Facts do not cease to exist just
> > because they are ignored.
> >
> >
> >



Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

2009-07-11 Thread Brian Weeden
Instead of dual booting, have you tried the Virtual XP option that comes
with Win7?  It's a custom virtual PC add-on that works very well.  What's so
cool is that when you install apps in the virtual XP for all users, they
show up in your Win7 start menu.  It's very slick.

http://lifehacker.com/5245396/set-up-and-use-xp-mode-in-windows-7

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation 
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, John R Steinbruner wrote:

> Yeah me too.
>
>  I took Vista off my main machine and have been using the Win 7 RC as well.
>
>  I dual boot to XP and Win 7 now, no more Vista in the house at all.  :)
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote:
>
>  I'll go ahead and admit it, I've been running win7 on my gaming rig for
>> months now... and it rocks.
>> I'm stoked!
>>
>>
>
> --
> JRS
> stei...@pacbell.net
>
> Facts do not cease to exist just
> because they are ignored.
>
>
>


Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

2009-07-11 Thread John R Steinbruner

Yeah me too.

 I took Vista off my main machine and have been using the Win 7 RC as  
well.


 I dual boot to XP and Win 7 now, no more Vista in the house at  
all.  :)




On Jul 11, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote:

I'll go ahead and admit it, I've been running win7 on my gaming rig  
for months now... and it rocks.

I'm stoked!




--
JRS
stei...@pacbell.net

Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.




Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

2009-07-11 Thread Bryan Seitz
I'll go ahead and admit it, I've been running win7 on my gaming rig for months 
now... and it rocks.
I'm stoked!

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 05:30:01AM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote:
> I'm very happy with the RC as well - I'm running it on all 3 of my systems
> (including my tablet).
> 
> ---
> Brian Weeden
> Technical Advisor
> Secure World Foundation 
> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Greg Sevart  wrote:
> 
> > I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a few extra days for W7 to be posted to
> > MSDN and TechNet, given that the 13th is just the RTM sign-off day. They've
> > historically outsourced the most popular downloads for MSDN and TN to
> > Akamai, so there's a good chance that server availability will be
> > acceptable.
> >
> > I, for one, will install it shortly after it's posted. I've been running
> > the public RC on my work machine since release, and can't wait.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> > > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of CW
> > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:48 PM
> > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> > > Subject: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?
> > >
> > > For those TechNet/MSDN subscribers, supposedly monday we get access to
> > > the RTM Windows 7.  I'm interested to see how well their servers hold
> > > up.
> >
> >
> >

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz


Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

2009-07-11 Thread Brian Weeden
I'm very happy with the RC as well - I'm running it on all 3 of my systems
(including my tablet).

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation 
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Greg Sevart  wrote:

> I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a few extra days for W7 to be posted to
> MSDN and TechNet, given that the 13th is just the RTM sign-off day. They've
> historically outsourced the most popular downloads for MSDN and TN to
> Akamai, so there's a good chance that server availability will be
> acceptable.
>
> I, for one, will install it shortly after it's posted. I've been running
> the public RC on my work machine since release, and can't wait.
>
> Greg
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of CW
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:48 PM
> > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?
> >
> > For those TechNet/MSDN subscribers, supposedly monday we get access to
> > the RTM Windows 7.  I'm interested to see how well their servers hold
> > up.
>
>
>


Re: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?

2009-07-11 Thread Greg Sevart
I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a few extra days for W7 to be posted to 
MSDN and TechNet, given that the 13th is just the RTM sign-off day. They've 
historically outsourced the most popular downloads for MSDN and TN to Akamai, 
so there's a good chance that server availability will be acceptable.

I, for one, will install it shortly after it's posted. I've been running the 
public RC on my work machine since release, and can't wait.

Greg

> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of CW
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:48 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: [H] So, who all is prepped for Monday?
> 
> For those TechNet/MSDN subscribers, supposedly monday we get access to
> the RTM Windows 7.  I'm interested to see how well their servers hold
> up.