Re: [H] Yet another stumbler
What are these? On 5/15/2010 1:33 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2875 - Release Date: 05/15/10 02:26:00
Re: [H] Yet another stumbler
To search the SSID's of other AP's and their Channels, in hope that you can set your AP's channel to something less congested and thereby getting better performance :) On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > What are these? > > > On 5/15/2010 1:33 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: > >> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2875 - Release Date: 05/15/10 >> 02:26:00 >> >> >> > -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
Re: [H] Yet another stumbler
Cool, bro! Do you have an opinion on which is better? I will get around to checking them out. On 5/15/2010 3:30 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: To search the SSID's of other AP's and their Channels, in hope that you can set your AP's channel to something less congested and thereby getting better performance :) On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Anthony Q. Martinwrote: What are these? On 5/15/2010 1:33 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2875 - Release Date: 05/15/10 02:26:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2875 - Release Date: 05/15/10 02:26:00
Re: [H] Yet another stumbler
Yes, get inssider. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > Cool, bro! Do you have an opinion on which is better? I will get around to > checking them out. > > > On 5/15/2010 3:30 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: > >> To search the SSID's of other AP's and their Channels, in hope that you >> can >> set your AP's channel to something less congested and thereby getting >> better >> performance :) >> >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Anthony Q. Martin> >wrote: >> >> >> >>> What are these? >>> >>> >>> On 5/15/2010 1:33 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: >>> >>> >>> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2875 - Release Date: 05/15/10 02:26:00 >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2875 - Release Date: 05/15/10 >> 02:26:00 >> >> >> > -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
Re: [H] Yet another stumbler
Good luck on that, on 2.4ghz there are only 1, 6, 11 that don't overlap and then factor in the 40mhz vs. 20mhz issue. 1 & 11 are nearly useless since they don't provide enough spectrum for 20mhz much less 40mhz. After years of using Netstumbler to survey, I now use InSSIDer. On 5/15/2010 12:30 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: To search the SSID's of other AP's and their Channels, in hope that you can set your AP's channel to something less congested and thereby getting better performance :) On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Anthony Q. Martinwrote: What are these? On 5/15/2010 1:33 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2875 - Release Date: 05/15/10 02:26:00
Re: [H] Yet another stumbler
Yes, the true non overlappable channels are 1 6 and 11, but then again, you can eke out some throughput by going to a less congested channel. The thing is that most routers default to 1. So I changed mine to 6 and got great benefits. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:00 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Yet another stumbler Good luck on that, on 2.4ghz there are only 1, 6, 11 that don't overlap and then factor in the 40mhz vs. 20mhz issue. 1 & 11 are nearly useless since they don't provide enough spectrum for 20mhz much less 40mhz. After years of using Netstumbler to survey, I now use InSSIDer. On 5/15/2010 12:30 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: > To search the SSID's of other AP's and their Channels, in hope that you can > set your AP's channel to something less congested and thereby getting better > performance :) > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Anthony Q. Martinwrote: > >> What are these? >> >> >> On 5/15/2010 1:33 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: >> >>> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2875 - Release Date: 05/15/10 >>> 02:26:00 >>> >>> >>> >> > >
Re: [H] Yet another stumbler
1? Dunno what routers you work with but of Linksys, DLink, & Netgear's I've seen they all default to center which is 6. Do a scan of any neighborhood and that's where you'll find 99% of the WAPs. As I said, this is likely because 1 & 11 have major attenuation at their respective lower & upper edge of spectrum because there is not enough room to fit 20mhz centered on the extremes. Showing the actual width characteristics is one of the nice things about how InSSIDer displays scans. On 5/16/2010 3:03 AM, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: Yes, the true non overlappable channels are 1 6 and 11, but then again, you can eke out some throughput by going to a less congested channel. The thing is that most routers default to 1. So I changed mine to 6 and got great benefits. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:00 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Yet another stumbler Good luck on that, on 2.4ghz there are only 1, 6, 11 that don't overlap and then factor in the 40mhz vs. 20mhz issue. 1& 11 are nearly useless since they don't provide enough spectrum for 20mhz much less 40mhz. After years of using Netstumbler to survey, I now use InSSIDer. On 5/15/2010 12:30 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: To search the SSID's of other AP's and their Channels, in hope that you can set your AP's channel to something less congested and thereby getting better performance :) On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Anthony Q. Martinwrote: What are these? On 5/15/2010 1:33 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2875 - Release Date: 05/15/10 02:26:00
Re: [H] Yet another stumbler
One interesting tidbit to file away is that the Wii console seems to connect more easily if the band is set to 11. I had to set up a couple for netflicks recently and they wouldn't connect if the band was at 6. I set up a vlan on 11 and everything went fine after that. lopaka From: maccrawj To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 10:53:04 AM Subject: Re: [H] Yet another stumbler 1? Dunno what routers you work with but of Linksys, DLink, & Netgear's I've seen they all default to center which is 6. Do a scan of any neighborhood and that's where you'll find 99% of the WAPs. As I said, this is likely because 1 & 11 have major attenuation at their respective lower & upper edge of spectrum because there is not enough room to fit 20mhz centered on the extremes. Showing the actual width characteristics is one of the nice things about how InSSIDer displays scans. On 5/16/2010 3:03 AM, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: > Yes, the true non overlappable channels are 1 6 and 11, but then again, > you can eke out some throughput by going to a less congested channel. > > The thing is that most routers default to 1. > > So I changed mine to 6 and got great benefits. > > > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:00 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Yet another stumbler > > Good luck on that, on 2.4ghz there are only 1, 6, 11 that don't overlap > and then > factor in the 40mhz vs. 20mhz issue. 1& 11 are nearly useless since > they don't > provide enough spectrum for 20mhz much less 40mhz. > > After years of using Netstumbler to survey, I now use InSSIDer. > > On 5/15/2010 12:30 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: >> To search the SSID's of other AP's and their Channels, in hope that > you can >> set your AP's channel to something less congested and thereby getting > better >> performance :) >> >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Anthony Q. > Martinwrote: >> >>> What are these? >>> >>> >>> On 5/15/2010 1:33 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2875 - Release Date: > 05/15/10 >>>> 02:26:00 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Re: [H] Yet another stumbler
Don't forget that I'm in Saudi Arabia, so maybe the "standards" here are different. Most routers in my neighborhood are set to 1. It's weird. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, maccrawj wrote: > 1? Dunno what routers you work with but of Linksys, DLink, & Netgear's I've > seen they all default to center which is 6. Do a scan of any neighborhood > and that's where you'll find 99% of the WAPs. > > As I said, this is likely because 1 & 11 have major attenuation at their > respective lower & upper edge of spectrum because there is not enough room > to fit 20mhz centered on the extremes. Showing the actual width > characteristics is one of the nice things about how InSSIDer displays scans. > > On 5/16/2010 3:03 AM, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: > >> Yes, the true non overlappable channels are 1 6 and 11, but then again, >> you can eke out some throughput by going to a less congested channel. >> >> The thing is that most routers default to 1. >> >> So I changed mine to 6 and got great benefits. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com >> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj >> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:00 PM >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com >> Subject: Re: [H] Yet another stumbler >> >> Good luck on that, on 2.4ghz there are only 1, 6, 11 that don't overlap >> and then >> factor in the 40mhz vs. 20mhz issue. 1& 11 are nearly useless since >> they don't >> provide enough spectrum for 20mhz much less 40mhz. >> >> After years of using Netstumbler to survey, I now use InSSIDer. >> >> On 5/15/2010 12:30 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: >> >>> To search the SSID's of other AP's and their Channels, in hope that >>> >> you can >> >>> set your AP's channel to something less congested and thereby getting >>> >> better >> >>> performance :) >>> >>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Anthony Q. >>> >> Martinwrote: >> >>> >>> What are these? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/15/2010 1:33 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: >>>> >>>> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2875 - Release Date: >>>>> >>>> 05/15/10 >> >>> 02:26:00 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
Re: [H] Yet another stumbler
Guess so, seems odd for the reasons stated unless you have a different spectrum setup. Of course if wiki can be trusted it sounds like France & Spain originally limited use to 10&11, 10-13 respectively, so stranger things have happend! On 5/16/2010 11:21 AM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Don't forget that I'm in Saudi Arabia, so maybe the "standards" here are different. Most routers in my neighborhood are set to 1. It's weird. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, maccrawj wrote: 1? Dunno what routers you work with but of Linksys, DLink,& Netgear's I've seen they all default to center which is 6. Do a scan of any neighborhood and that's where you'll find 99% of the WAPs. As I said, this is likely because 1& 11 have major attenuation at their respective lower& upper edge of spectrum because there is not enough room to fit 20mhz centered on the extremes. Showing the actual width characteristics is one of the nice things about how InSSIDer displays scans. On 5/16/2010 3:03 AM, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: Yes, the true non overlappable channels are 1 6 and 11, but then again, you can eke out some throughput by going to a less congested channel. The thing is that most routers default to 1. So I changed mine to 6 and got great benefits.
Re: [H] Yet another stumbler
We only netflix on the PS3 but I've never had an issue with updates or games using ch6 on the past 3 Linksys routers w/DD-WRT I've used. Have to wonder if maybe you have interference on ch6 that's making the WII unable to connect? On 5/16/2010 10:59 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: One interesting tidbit to file away is that the Wii console seems to connect more easily if the band is set to 11. I had to set up a couple for netflicks recently and they wouldn't connect if the band was at 6. I set up a vlan on 11 and everything went fine after that. lopaka
Re: [H] Yet another stumbler
I'm trying to figure out why Issider is showing my 5G network on channel 0? This is when I select the channel graph for 2.4 GHz. When I switch to the 5 G channel graph, I dont' see anythign on the right graph..but the same routers signal strengths on the left. On 5/16/2010 2:21 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: Don't forget that I'm in Saudi Arabia, so maybe the "standards" here are different. Most routers in my neighborhood are set to 1. It's weird. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, maccrawj wrote: 1? Dunno what routers you work with but of Linksys, DLink,& Netgear's I've seen they all default to center which is 6. Do a scan of any neighborhood and that's where you'll find 99% of the WAPs. As I said, this is likely because 1& 11 have major attenuation at their respective lower& upper edge of spectrum because there is not enough room to fit 20mhz centered on the extremes. Showing the actual width characteristics is one of the nice things about how InSSIDer displays scans. On 5/16/2010 3:03 AM, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: Yes, the true non overlappable channels are 1 6 and 11, but then again, you can eke out some throughput by going to a less congested channel. The thing is that most routers default to 1. So I changed mine to 6 and got great benefits. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:00 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Yet another stumbler Good luck on that, on 2.4ghz there are only 1, 6, 11 that don't overlap and then factor in the 40mhz vs. 20mhz issue. 1& 11 are nearly useless since they don't provide enough spectrum for 20mhz much less 40mhz. After years of using Netstumbler to survey, I now use InSSIDer. On 5/15/2010 12:30 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: To search the SSID's of other AP's and their Channels, in hope that you can set your AP's channel to something less congested and thereby getting better performance :) On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Anthony Q. Martinwrote: What are these? On 5/15/2010 1:33 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote: http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2875 - Release Date: 05/15/10 02:26:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2877 - Release Date: 05/16/10 02:26:00
