Re: Get involved on Harmony

2005-10-27 Thread Graham Smith
On Monday 24 October 2005 18:45, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

 Correct except for :

 1) I'm not fearless
 2) I'm not the leader.  We're all peers :)

Yes boss. Erm peer :)


  We need people who _do_ know something about a topic as well as people
  who do _not_ know.  For example, myself.  I have worked with Java
  for a
  good while, and I have some good experience in Unix, Windows, and
  real-time systems.  Therefore, I felt I could write a JVM for this
  project.  However, I do _not_ know anything about Java memory
  allocation
  and de-allocation (known as garbage collection) systems, as is
  evident
  from recent list postings.  However, several other people do.  Their
  experience will fill in my gap and I will learn something along the
  way.

 Exactly.  For example, I'm trying to cover the have people who don't
 know aspect, as I don't have a clue :)

 Welcome... just get involved.

I'm in a similar position to Joäo. I've been reading this list for a few weeks 
thinking that I might be able to help with the harmony project but don't 
understand most of what is said (which I find very depressing) as it all 
seems to be C related.

I've been a Java developer (web applications mostly) for a longer than I care 
to think about while sober but wouldn't know C from Perl. This makes me think 
that, at present at least, I probably won't be able to have much input. 

AIUI though harmony will eventually write it's own core class libraries 
(java.util, java.sql, javax.swing, etc etc ) which is where I think I could 
be most productive.

What I suppose I am trying to ask is what area(s) do you think I would be most 
useful working in? What I am hoping is that someone with a good understanding 
of the project will be able to point me in the direction of an overview or 
towards areas that best fit my current skills which will help get me started. 
I've not worked on a project this large before and it's quite daunting to be 
faced with the whole project all at once.

Thanks,

Graham




Re: Compilers and configuration tools

2005-10-27 Thread acoliver




Sure, let?s all just forget about cheese-burgers  fries and start eating 
vegetables because they are really healthy food and sustain as any other 
one (:-P). You could still use vi (i some times do), as you can still 
program asc under 8086, but if you really want to increase your 
productivity start using a UI. There are a lot of tools to write C/C++ 
code, i basically use LCC to develop C plain code, but Eclipse CDT is a 
very good UI, you will only have to download a C/C++ compiler (CDT dosen?t 
come with a compiler) like gcc, or even MVC++ running under wine (or 
something like that, i don?t know any one who actually used MVC under 
wine).


Andy, dont get mad at me, this is just my point of view, and i tend to 
admire oldies (:-)) who are still running things under vi.




Humm...you work at IBMinsert appropriate comment about OS/390, AIX, 
and JCL here


I use vi because one of my first professional jobs was working in 
Alabama at a state government place.  I'd been working on OS/2 and had 
little exposure to UNIX.  When I sat down and had to change a few config 
files I looked up at this crusty ol' programmer and said what's the 
editor called on this thing... he got visibly annoyed with me and said 
Son, I don know how they do things up* there in Florida, but you in the 
Bible belt now.  There are two things you need to know:  God created the 
world in 6 days, and he did it with VE, EYYEEE.


Since I couldn't argue with that impeccable logic my love affair with 
things that did not make me wait began.  I'm only now beginning to use 
IDEs with Java due to annotations and things, but you have to admit...it 
is sloww. and gets in your way.


-Andy

* Florida is one of those states that every true southerner knows is in 
a time-space warp.  While it is actually up there in the North with 
all those yankees, one must drive below the south to get there.  Thus 
although I grew up in a state that most folks would locate on the globe 
south, I will never have the honor of being a true southerner because 
I grew up north in Florida.  There are alternative theories of how 
Florida got down there (which is really up there) many of which 
theorize that it had premonition of Castro and broke off of Cuba and ran 
smack into the southern border of the US a few millenia before Castro 
was born (just for safe measure).  What is important is that proper 
'merican is spoken in Florida and the English language is properly 
normalized to have a plural form of you best known as Y'all and that 
it can be properly typed on a US keyboard without straining your 
fingersr too far off the home row.



[]s 
 
Jo?o



There is a certain bias I have that tends to think that visual 
programmers do not tend to be able to write compilers and the such.  If 
command lines are a barrier to entry, wait till you meet hexcodes and 
relocatable memory addressing.  However that may just be that I'm a 
command line junkie and a bit of a techno-bigot.




-Andy










[BootJVM] configure

2005-10-27 Thread Jean-frederic Clere

Hi,

I am now building the config/config.h using the configure files I have 
prepared.

The BootJVM specific options of the configure are:

 --with-java=DIR Specify the location of your JDK installation
 --with-heap=TYPEHeap allocation method: simple, bimodal or other.
 --with-gc=TYPE  Garbage collection method: stub or other.

The new file are in http://people.apache.org/~jfclere/config_try.jar.gz

Any comments?

Cheers

Jean-Frederic