RE: [ha-Safran]: Two Brothers
I just read this story to a class. The brothers were not jealous of each other. They were concerned for each other. -- Heather Lenson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (440) 542-0036 Messages and opinions expressed on Hasafran are those of the individual author and are not necessarily endorsed by the Association of Jewish Libraries (AJL) === Submissions for Ha-Safran, send to: Hasafran @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu SUBscribing, SIGNOFF commands send to: Listproc @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Questions, problems, complaints, compliments;-) send to: galron.1 @ osu.edu Ha-Safran Archives: Current: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/maillist.html History: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/history.html AJL HomePage http://www.JewishLibraries.org
RE: [ha-Safran]: Two Brothers
Heather, The story I posted to the listserv is an Israeli joke. It is a parody of the story of the two brothers who are concerned for each other. Read the punch-line again. Steven Messages and opinions expressed on Hasafran are those of the individual author and are not necessarily endorsed by the Association of Jewish Libraries (AJL) === Submissions for Ha-Safran, send to: Hasafran @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu SUBscribing, SIGNOFF commands send to: Listproc @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Questions, problems, complaints, compliments;-) send to: galron.1 @ osu.edu Ha-Safran Archives: Current: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/maillist.html History: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/history.html AJL HomePage http://www.JewishLibraries.org
Re: [ha-Safran]: Two brothers
There is another original Jewish story of a Christian twins, one of which would be sequestered an educated as a Jew in a different place. They meet at the University and they went astonished by their similitudes. A series of involving and moving circumstances are shown. The Jew didn't refuse their religious beliefs and marries a Jew girl. I suppose this is an original Middle European story written in Yiddish at the middle of the 19th century, but I could find only a Judeo-Spanish version (Los dos mellizos. Romanso de la vida judía en Austría). One copy is in the Dorot Collection in the New York Public Library. Pilar Romeu Barcelona - Spain Messages and opinions expressed on Hasafran are those of the individual author and are not necessarily endorsed by the Association of Jewish Libraries (AJL) === Submissions for Ha-Safran, send to: Hasafran @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu SUBscribing, SIGNOFF commands send to: Listproc @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Questions, problems, complaints, compliments;-) send to: galron.1 @ osu.edu Ha-Safran Archives: Current: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/maillist.html History: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/history.html AJL HomePage http://www.JewishLibraries.org
RE: [ha-Safran]: Two Brothers
Daniel Stuhlman researched the answer to this question in the February 1997 issue of his Librarian's Lobby http://home.earthlink.net/~ddstuhlman/crc2.htm. Apparently, the story is of unknown origin. There is a similar story about two brothers who lived on opposite sides of a hill. One was childless and the other was blessed with many children. Both brothers were extremely jealous of each other. The childless brother was jealous of his sibling because for him, the harvest was extremely easy with such a big family to help. The brother who was blessed with many children was jealous of his sibling because he had only one mouth to feed and certainly had plenty of harvest left over. Each night, the two brothers would sneak over the hill to each other's barns and steal some of their brothers' barley. This continued on for many many months. One night, the two brothers met on top of the hill. When they realized what was going on, they began fighting and eventually beat the living you-know-what out of each other. This, according to legend, is the place where God chose to build the Keneset. Messages and opinions expressed on Hasafran are those of the individual author and are not necessarily endorsed by the Association of Jewish Libraries (AJL) === Submissions for Ha-Safran, send to: Hasafran @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu SUBscribing, SIGNOFF commands send to: Listproc @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Questions, problems, complaints, compliments;-) send to: galron.1 @ osu.edu Ha-Safran Archives: Current: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/maillist.html History: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/history.html AJL HomePage http://www.JewishLibraries.org
Re: [ha-Safran]: Two Brothers
I think there was discussion of this on Hasafran a number of years ago, but I don't remember all the specifics. I think it was found in a late source, and possibly is of non-Jewish origin, especially since many elements of the story contradict the Tanakh and the Talmud. -Stanley Nachamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages and opinions expressed on Hasafran are those of the individual author and are not necessarily endorsed by the Association of Jewish Libraries (AJL) === Submissions for Ha-Safran, send to: Hasafran @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu SUBscribing, SIGNOFF commands send to: Listproc @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Questions, problems, complaints, compliments;-) send to: galron.1 @ osu.edu Ha-Safran Archives: Current: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/maillist.html History: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/history.html AJL HomePage http://www.JewishLibraries.org
Re: [ha-Safran]: Two Brothers
I wrote an article on this story. None of the above are the source. See: home.earthlink.net/~ddstuhlman/crc2.htm Daniel Stuhlman ddstuhlman at earthlink.net Chicago, IL Messages and opinions expressed on Hasafran are those of the individual author and are not necessarily endorsed by the Association of Jewish Libraries (AJL) === Submissions for Ha-Safran, send to: Hasafran @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu SUBscribing, SIGNOFF commands send to: Listproc @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Questions, problems, complaints, compliments;-) send to: galron.1 @ osu.edu Ha-Safran Archives: Current: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/maillist.html History: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/history.html AJL HomePage http://www.JewishLibraries.org
Re: [ha-Safran]: Two Brothers
The source is most likely an Arab folk tale. I wrote about it on my blog last year. http://menachemmendel.net/blog/2006/03/30/two-brothers-a-field-and-the-temple/ Michael Pitkowsky Messages and opinions expressed on Hasafran are those of the individual author and are not necessarily endorsed by the Association of Jewish Libraries (AJL) === Submissions for Ha-Safran, send to: Hasafran @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu SUBscribing, SIGNOFF commands send to: Listproc @ lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Questions, problems, complaints, compliments;-) send to: galron.1 @ osu.edu Ha-Safran Archives: Current: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/maillist.html History: http://www.mail-archive.com/hasafran%40lists.acs.ohio-state.edu/history.html AJL HomePage http://www.JewishLibraries.org
