Re: [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY DEPT.

[Daniel Stuhlman via Hasafran]

I don't want to defend rude behavior, however, many times I have helped
someone with a difficult printing situation.  I tried so many options
before it worked, that I couldn't even remember what I did.

DS

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:09 PM Michal Strutin via Hasafran <
hasafran@lists.osu.edu> wrote:

> Most librarians, myself included, go the extra mile to help a patron. But,
> in any given collection of people, there's always a small percent with an
> attitude problem, lack of social skills, etc. I'm glad you said what you
> said. Maybe you shamed her into being nice for the next patron.
>
> Michal (Strutin)
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:30 AM Rebecca Levitan via Hasafran <
> hasafran@lists.osu.edu> wrote:
>
>> ​Speaking as a public librarian I'm horrified what this woman said that.
>> I know I've had my share of frustrations with patrons but it would never
>> occur to me to say such a horrible thing to anyone. Your curt reply was
>> totally warranted and she clearly has no value in good customer service.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rebecca Levitan *| *Librarian II*
>>
>> Baltimore County Public Library | Pikesville Branch
>>
>> 1301 Reisterstown Road
>>
>> Baltimore, MD 21208
>>
>> 410.887.1234
>>
>> www.bcpl.info
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Hasafran  on
>> behalf of Weisman, Yaffa via Hasafran 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2019 1:12 AM
>> *To:* Robby Feinstein; ha-Safran (hasaf...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu)
>> *Subject:* Re: [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY
>> DEPT.
>>
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>> Robby,
>>
>> It was lousy of her, but I do believe she is the aberration, not the
>> norm. I’ve been using my local public library (LAPL/Westchester branch)
>> extensively since my retirement, and the staff is always kind, welcoming,
>> and friendly. So the hell with her – I’m glad you put her in her place J
>>
>> yaffa
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Hasafran [mailto:hasafran-boun...@lists.osu.edu] *On Behalf Of *Robby
>> Feinstein via Hasafran
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 3, 2019 5:08 PM
>> *To:* ha-Safran (hasaf...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu) <
>> hasaf...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu>; Robby Feinstein <
>> robbiesm...@hotmail.com>
>> *Subject:* [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY DEPT.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was at the nearby public library and politely asked a librarian to help
>> me print out a color attachment from an Email, which contained a
>> forthcoming article I wrote for a journal.  I've been retired from our
>> profession for quite a few years now, and admit my computer skills are not
>> the best.  After she finished sending the article to a color printer, she
>> said in a most condescending and haughty manner: "I guarantee you weren't
>> paying attention to how I did this."  She was totally wrong, as I was
>> paying very close attention, to her navigating the computer's prompts.  She
>> wasn't expecting my curt reply: "I'm a retired library director, and I
>> would have never talked to a patron like that."  It is no secret that that
>> the people in our profession still have a less than positive image.  It is
>> librarians such as the one I unfortunately encountered today who cause that
>> to be the case.  If others on Hasafran want to comment about this, I would
>> like to read their postings.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
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Re: [ha-Safran] what to do with duplicate books, VHS tapes, cassettes, etc.

[Maxine Wolfson via Hasafran]

We have a cart where we put any donated books that we don't want to add to
our collection. The sign says "Free, or make a donation to the library fund
or temple".  Remarkably, I rarely have to geniza or throw out books on that
cart, regardless of how strange or esoteric the topics.

Maxine Wolfson  -  Rosen Library
Temple Emanu-El
Providence, RI


On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 3:19 PM Judy Petersen via Hasafran <
hasafran@lists.osu.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
>  The storage space in my library consists of cardboard boxes under our
> wooden shelving.  I have all my duplicate books (which I pulled because I
> didn't have enough shelf space to accommodate duplicates), plus all the
> donated books I put in our semi-annual book sale stored in boxes under the
> regular bookshelves.  I also have some vinyl records, VHS tapes and
> cassette tapes that are no longer usable as practically no one uses those
> technologies anymore.
>  My Executive Director wants me to "beautify" the Library by getting
> rid of as many boxes as possible.  I'll probably transfer the books for
> sale to cubes or tubs for a better "look", but I really should get rid of
> at least some of it as it is threatening to overwhelm the library.
>  I've tried a local used bookstore that has a buy back policy, but
> they essentially have no need for any Judaica.  I'd be happy to donate
> anything anyone would like (I have over 100 books available, in generally
> good condition, with spine labels according to the Weine cataloging system)
> for the cost of shipping to anyone who would like them.  Or if anyone knows
> of anyone who might need them--prisons?, Jewish senior centers or nursing
> homes? or...?   Other suggestions also welcome!!!  I will only throw
> things away as a last resort.
>  Many thanks!!
>
>  Judy Petersen
>  Library Director
>  Congregation Har Shalom
>  Fort Collins, CO
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Re: [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY DEPT.

[Barbara Karp via Hasafran]

I, too, am a retired librarian (whose official career ended because my position 
was eliminated). I remember a high school student came into my school library 
with a request. She needed a novel and related nonfiction (to determine the 
realism of the fictional portrayal of the subject) for a term paper on the 
theme of prejudice. The student said she went to the public library, and the 
librarian told her it was a stupid topic. Even if I did not approve of the 
subject, it would be unthinkable to voice my opinion to a patron or anyone 
else. It is disturbing to discover that bad apples exist in our 
service-oriented profession.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Michal Strutin via Hasafran 
>  wrote:
> 
> Most librarians, myself included, go the extra mile to help a patron. But, in 
> any given collection of people, there's always a small percent with an 
> attitude problem, lack of social skills, etc. I'm glad you said what you 
> said. Maybe you shamed her into being nice for the next patron.
> 
> Michal (Strutin)
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:30 AM Rebecca Levitan via Hasafran 
>>  wrote:
>> ​Speaking as a public librarian I'm horrified what this woman said that. I 
>> know I've had my share of frustrations with patrons but it would never occur 
>> to me to say such a horrible thing to anyone. Your curt reply was totally 
>> warranted and she clearly has no value in good customer service.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Rebecca Levitan | Librarian II
>> 
>> Baltimore County Public Library | Pikesville Branch
>> 
>> 1301 Reisterstown Road
>> 
>> Baltimore, MD 21208
>> 
>> 410.887.1234
>> 
>> www.bcpl.info  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Hasafran  on behalf 
>> of Weisman, Yaffa via Hasafran 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 1:12 AM
>> To: Robby Feinstein; ha-Safran (hasaf...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu)
>> Subject: Re: [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY DEPT.
>>  
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>> Robby,
>> 
>> It was lousy of her, but I do believe she is the aberration, not the norm. 
>> I’ve been using my local public library (LAPL/Westchester branch) 
>> extensively since my retirement, and the staff is always kind, welcoming, 
>> and friendly. So the hell with her – I’m glad you put her in her place J
>> 
>> yaffa
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Hasafran [mailto:hasafran-boun...@lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Robby 
>> Feinstein via Hasafran
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 5:08 PM
>> To: ha-Safran (hasaf...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu) 
>> ; Robby Feinstein 
>> 
>> Subject: [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY DEPT.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I was at the nearby public library and politely asked a librarian to help me 
>> print out a color attachment from an Email, which contained a forthcoming 
>> article I wrote for a journal.  I've been retired from our profession for 
>> quite a few years now, and admit my computer skills are not the best.  After 
>> she finished sending the article to a color printer, she said in a most 
>> condescending and haughty manner: "I guarantee you weren't paying attention 
>> to how I did this."  She was totally wrong, as I was paying very close 
>> attention, to her navigating the computer's prompts.  She wasn't expecting 
>> my curt reply: "I'm a retired library director, and I would have never 
>> talked to a patron like that."  It is no secret that that the people in our 
>> profession still have a less than positive image.  It is librarians such as 
>> the one I unfortunately encountered today who cause that to be the case.  If 
>> others on Hasafran want to comment about this, I would like to read their 
>> postings.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Virus-free. www.avg.com
>> 
>>  
>> 
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[ha-Safran] what to do with duplicate books, VHS tapes, cassettes, etc.

[Judy Petersen via Hasafran]

Hi,     The storage space in my library consists of cardboard boxes under our 
wooden shelving.  I have all my duplicate books (which I pulled because I 
didn't have enough shelf space to accommodate duplicates), plus all the donated 
books I put in our semi-annual book sale stored in boxes under the regular 
bookshelves.  I also have some vinyl records, VHS tapes and cassette tapes that 
are no longer usable as practically no one uses those technologies anymore.     
My Executive Director wants me to "beautify" the Library by getting rid of as 
many boxes as possible.  I'll probably transfer the books for sale to cubes or 
tubs for a better "look", but I really should get rid of at least some of it as 
it is threatening to overwhelm the library.     I've tried a local used 
bookstore that has a buy back policy, but they essentially have no need for any 
Judaica.  I'd be happy to donate anything anyone would like (I have over 100 
books available, in generally good condition, with spine labels according to 
the Weine cataloging system) for the cost of shipping to anyone who would like 
them.  Or if anyone knows of anyone who might need them--prisons?, Jewish 
senior centers or nursing homes? or...?   Other suggestions also welcome!!! 
 I will only throw things away as a last resort.     Many thanks!!
                     Judy Petersen                     Library Director         
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[ha-Safran] Possible delays in postings to Hasafran

[Galron, Joseph via Hasafran]

Colleagues
The Moderator of Hasafran received a Senior Scholar stipend from the Fulbright 
Foundation and will be in Israel till the end of the year.
I will continue and moderate the Hasafran list from the Holy Land, but because 
of the different time zones I might be able to post the messages some hours 
later.
(The same is valid for the lists I moderate)

All the best from Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in Be’er Sheva.

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Re: [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY DEPT.

[Michal Strutin via Hasafran]

Most librarians, myself included, go the extra mile to help a patron. But,
in any given collection of people, there's always a small percent with an
attitude problem, lack of social skills, etc. I'm glad you said what you
said. Maybe you shamed her into being nice for the next patron.

Michal (Strutin)

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:30 AM Rebecca Levitan via Hasafran <
hasafran@lists.osu.edu> wrote:

> ​Speaking as a public librarian I'm horrified what this woman said that. I
> know I've had my share of frustrations with patrons but it would never
> occur to me to say such a horrible thing to anyone. Your curt reply was
> totally warranted and she clearly has no value in good customer service.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Rebecca Levitan *| *Librarian II*
>
> Baltimore County Public Library | Pikesville Branch
>
> 1301 Reisterstown Road
>
> Baltimore, MD 21208
>
> 410.887.1234
>
> www.bcpl.info
>
>
> --
> *From:* Hasafran  on
> behalf of Weisman, Yaffa via Hasafran 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2019 1:12 AM
> *To:* Robby Feinstein; ha-Safran (hasaf...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu)
> *Subject:* Re: [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY DEPT.
>
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> caution opening attachments.
>
> Robby,
>
> It was lousy of her, but I do believe she is the aberration, not the norm.
> I’ve been using my local public library (LAPL/Westchester branch)
> extensively since my retirement, and the staff is always kind, welcoming,
> and friendly. So the hell with her – I’m glad you put her in her place J
>
> yaffa
>
>
>
> *From:* Hasafran [mailto:hasafran-boun...@lists.osu.edu] *On Behalf Of *Robby
> Feinstein via Hasafran
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 3, 2019 5:08 PM
> *To:* ha-Safran (hasaf...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu) <
> hasaf...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu>; Robby Feinstein <
> robbiesm...@hotmail.com>
> *Subject:* [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY DEPT.
>
>
>
> I was at the nearby public library and politely asked a librarian to help
> me print out a color attachment from an Email, which contained a
> forthcoming article I wrote for a journal.  I've been retired from our
> profession for quite a few years now, and admit my computer skills are not
> the best.  After she finished sending the article to a color printer, she
> said in a most condescending and haughty manner: "I guarantee you weren't
> paying attention to how I did this."  She was totally wrong, as I was
> paying very close attention, to her navigating the computer's prompts.  She
> wasn't expecting my curt reply: "I'm a retired library director, and I
> would have never talked to a patron like that."  It is no secret that that
> the people in our profession still have a less than positive image.  It is
> librarians such as the one I unfortunately encountered today who cause that
> to be the case.  If others on Hasafran want to comment about this, I would
> like to read their postings.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> Virus-free. www.avg.com
> 
>
>
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[ha-Safran] Old Hebrew / Judaic textbook

[Robbin Katzin via Hasafran]

I am clearing out cabinets full of old elementary Hebrew and Judaic textbooks. 
Are there any libraries that collect this type of historical educational 
material? I am loathe to throw them out or place in shaimos, but will if no one 
is interested in them.
Robbin KatzinHillel Torah North Suburban Day SchoolSkokie, IL
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Re: [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY DEPT.

[Schnaidman, Esther via Hasafran]

Wow, that is pretty bad.   I wonder if she truly is a professionally
trained librarian or a not well-trained library clerk.  Either way, that
was just plain rude.  I'm so glad you set her straight.  Your response to
her was spot-on.  Hopefully, she will think twice before speaking to
another patron like that in the future.
Esther

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 1:30 PM Rebecca Levitan via Hasafran <
hasafran@lists.osu.edu> wrote:

> ​Speaking as a public librarian I'm horrified what this woman said that. I
> know I've had my share of frustrations with patrons but it would never
> occur to me to say such a horrible thing to anyone. Your curt reply was
> totally warranted and she clearly has no value in good customer service.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> It was lousy of her, but I do believe she is the aberration, not the norm.
> I’ve been using my local public library (LAPL/Westchester branch)
> extensively since my retirement, and the staff is always kind, welcoming,
> and friendly. So the hell with her – I’m glad you put her in her place J
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> *Subject:* [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY DEPT.
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> I was at the nearby public library and politely asked a librarian to help
> me print out a color attachment from an Email, which contained a
> forthcoming article I wrote for a journal.  I've been retired from our
> profession for quite a few years now, and admit my computer skills are not
> the best.  After she finished sending the article to a color printer, she
> said in a most condescending and haughty manner: "I guarantee you weren't
> paying attention to how I did this."  She was totally wrong, as I was
> paying very close attention, to her navigating the computer's prompts.  She
> wasn't expecting my curt reply: "I'm a retired library director, and I
> would have never talked to a patron like that."  It is no secret that that
> the people in our profession still have a less than positive image.  It is
> librarians such as the one I unfortunately encountered today who cause that
> to be the case.  If others on Hasafran want to comment about this, I would
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Re: [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY DEPT.

[Rebecca Levitan via Hasafran]

?Speaking as a public librarian I'm horrified what this woman said that. I know 
I've had my share of frustrations with patrons but it would never occur to me 
to say such a horrible thing to anyone. Your curt reply was totally warranted 
and she clearly has no value in good customer service.






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Robby,
It was lousy of her, but I do believe she is the aberration, not the norm. I've 
been using my local public library (LAPL/Westchester branch) extensively since 
my retirement, and the staff is always kind, welcoming, and friendly. So the 
hell with her - I'm glad you put her in her place :)
yaffa

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Subject: [ha-Safran] UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY DEPT.

I was at the nearby public library and politely asked a librarian to help me 
print out a color attachment from an Email, which contained a forthcoming 
article I wrote for a journal.  I've been retired from our profession for quite 
a few years now, and admit my computer skills are not the best.  After she 
finished sending the article to a color printer, she said in a most 
condescending and haughty manner: "I guarantee you weren't paying attention to 
how I did this."  She was totally wrong, as I was paying very close attention, 
to her navigating the computer's prompts.  She wasn't expecting my curt reply: 
"I'm a retired library director, and I would have never talked to a patron like 
that."  It is no secret that that the people in our profession still have a 
less than positive image.  It is librarians such as the one I unfortunately 
encountered today who cause that to be the case.  If others on Hasafran want to 
comment about this, I would like to read their postings.

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[books2gogh via Hasafran]

I'm thinking it might be related to the culture of your city and its
library policies.  Certainly not something I've encountered in our city
known for its Southern hospitality.  Or maybe the person who helped you was
just having a bad hair day.

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hasafran@lists.osu.edu> wrote:

> I was at the nearby public library and politely asked a librarian to help
> me print out a color attachment from an Email, which contained a
> forthcoming article I wrote for a journal.  I've been retired from our
> profession for quite a few years now, and admit my computer skills are not
> the best.  After she finished sending the article to a color printer, she
> said in a most condescending and haughty manner: "I guarantee you weren't
> paying attention to how I did this."  She was totally wrong, as I was
> paying very close attention, to her navigating the computer's prompts.  She
> wasn't expecting my curt reply: "I'm a retired library director, and I
> would have never talked to a patron like that."  It is no secret that that
> the people in our profession still have a less than positive image.  It is
> librarians such as the one I unfortunately encountered today who cause that
> to be the case.  If others on Hasafran want to comment about this, I would
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[Maxine Wolfson via Hasafran]

The vast majority of public and private librarians
 I've met and dealt with are untiringly courteous
even with the most difficult patrons.

Did she describe the steps she took to get to the
print queue? If not, she was definitely in the wrong.

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> I was at the nearby public library and politely asked a librarian to help
> me print out a color attachment from an Email, which contained a
> forthcoming article I wrote for a journal.  I've been retired from our
> profession for quite a few years now, and admit my computer skills are not
> the best.  After she finished sending the article to a color printer, she
> said in a most condescending and haughty manner: "I guarantee you weren't
> paying attention to how I did this."  She was totally wrong, as I was
> paying very close attention, to her navigating the computer's prompts.  She
> wasn't expecting my curt reply: "I'm a retired library director, and I
> would have never talked to a patron like that."  It is no secret that that
> the people in our profession still have a less than positive image.  It is
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