Re: [haskell art] the library of beautiful instruments implemented in haskell / csound

[Evan Laforge]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Henning Thielemann
 wrote:
> That's my observation, too. Maybe they are developed for something
> different?

Or maybe people feel a programming mailing list isn't suitable for
sharing music?  Speaking for myself only, don't be shy, especially if
the source is available!  As someone trying to develop my own form of
notation, examples to me can be more interesting than implementations.

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Re: [haskell art] the library of beautiful instruments implemented in haskell / csound

[Anton Kholomiov]

I've shared some music that I've made with the library some while ago.
You can find it on my soundclud page:

https://soundcloud.com/anton-kho


It's all done with haskell and csound.

2015-09-22 19:57 GMT+03:00 Evan Laforge :

> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Henning Thielemann
>  wrote:
> > That's my observation, too. Maybe they are developed for something
> > different?
>
> Or maybe people feel a programming mailing list isn't suitable for
> sharing music?  Speaking for myself only, don't be shy, especially if
> the source is available!  As someone trying to develop my own form of
> notation, examples to me can be more interesting than implementations.
>
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Re: [haskell art] the library of beautiful instruments implemented in haskell / csound

[Henning Thielemann]

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015, Evan Laforge wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Anton Kholomiov
>  wrote:
>> That's the first piece of music done with csound-expression
>> not by me. I'm very happy to listen to it. I'm biased as an author.
>> and you have managed to do it so quickly!
>
> I was going to say, not only do these music production libraries tend to 
> lack instruments, they also tend to lack actual music.

That's my observation, too. Maybe they are developed for something 
different?

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Re: [haskell art] the library of beautiful instruments implemented in haskell / csound

[Hans Höglund]

Hi Anton, 

Sorry for chipping in late, just wanted to congratulate you on your great work 
on the new library.  Hope to give it try some time soon.

All best,
Hans

On 17 sep 2015, at 22:21, Evan Laforge wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Anton Kholomiov
>  wrote:
>> That's the first piece of music done with csound-expression
>> not by me. I'm very happy to listen to it. I'm biased as an author.
>> and you have managed to do it so quickly!
> 
> I was going to say, not only do these music production libraries tend
> to lack instruments, they also tend to lack actual music.  So I'm
> always really interested to hear what people produce.
> 
> Can you give some background on what you used?  Possibly even source
> code?  The only thing I can find for AbstractMusic is an iphone app
> that doesn't look like the same thing.
> 
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Re: [haskell art] the library of beautiful instruments implemented in haskell / csound

[Evan Laforge]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Anton Kholomiov
 wrote:
> That's the first piece of music done with csound-expression
> not by me. I'm very happy to listen to it. I'm biased as an author.
> and you have managed to do it so quickly!

I was going to say, not only do these music production libraries tend
to lack instruments, they also tend to lack actual music.  So I'm
always really interested to hear what people produce.

Can you give some background on what you used?  Possibly even source
code?  The only thing I can find for AbstractMusic is an iphone app
that doesn't look like the same thing.

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Re: [haskell art] the library of beautiful instruments implemented in haskell / csound

[Edward Lilley]

Thanks a lot for this.

At first I was confused at the difference between the instruments in
Csound.Catalog, and those in Csound.Patch, but once that was sorted out
it was a very easy package to work with. Not having to depend on another
full-blown score library is a good idea (in this case it would be
redundant, because my library *is* a kind of score library).

Here's the first thing I did:
https://soundcloud.com/ejlflop/guillaume-costeley-seigneur-dieu-ta-pitie-in-19-tet-tuning

The patches sound very nice, and the slight randomisation of attack
works very well!

thanks,
Edward

Anton Kholomiov  writes:

> Alas there is no CsdSco typeclass anymore.
> The original idea was to implement score type with
> the most basic type and give the user a chance to write converters
> and use score playing functionality by the class CsdSco. 
> But I've noticed that this approach was preventing me from using
> advanced score structures (they are implemented in the separate
> package).
> And type signatures become scary for the novice.
> So I've settled down the type. It's like choosing between Prelude.List
> ListLike.List. I've decided to pick the simplest one.
>
> You can write your own converter to the `Sco` type. 
>
> 
> type Sco a = Track D a
> ```
>
> The `Track` comes from temporal-media package.
> It's very easy to construct it from list of events.
> One possible solution:
>
> ```
> type Note = (Double, Double, a)
>
> fromEvents :: [Note] -> Sco a
> fromEvents = har . fmap f
> where f (start, duration, a) = del (double start) $ str (double
> duration) $ temp a
> ```
>
> Notice the need for converting to csound doubles (`D`s). The `har` is
> parallel composition.
> `del` is for delaying nd `str` is for stretching in time domain. `temp
> ` creates an event
> that lasts for one seconds and starts right away.
> I don't know your type, but I think it can be rendered to a list of
> notes.
>
> Then you can plug the converter to the functions: `sco` or `atSco`
> (used for patches).
>
> Cheers,
> Anton
>
> 2015-09-15 22:11 GMT+03:00 Edward Lilley :
>
> Hi
> 
> The most useful part of this (for me) is the ability to play
> midi-style
> instruments at arbitrary frequencies, so this looks great!
> 
> To that end, I'm looking for the definition of the 'CsdSco'
> typeclass,
> as I want to write my own instance. It seems to be referenced in
> the
> csound-expression documentation, and once in a code comment, but
> is
> otherwise absent from the source. Indeed, installing
> temporal-csound
> from hackage fails with the error
> 
> src/Csound.hs:135:10:
> Not in scope: type constructor or class ‘CsdSco’
> 
> Where do I find it?
> 
> thanks,
> Edward
> 
> Anton Kholomiov  writes:
> 
> > Status update for my haskell synth csound-expression. The main
> point is
> > presence of many cool instruments. They are implemented in the
> package
> > csound-catalog. All packages are compiled with GHC-7.10 So the
> hackage
> > fails to build them and unfortunately docs a broken too. But you
> can look
> > at the source code of the module Csound.Patch to now the names
> of the
> > instruments. The usage is pretty straightforward. It's described
> here:
> >
> >
> 
> https://github.com/spell-music/csound-expression/blob/master/tutorial/chapters/Patches.md
>
> >
> > There is an mp3 file to listen to the instruments.
> http://ge.tt/1jNETqN2/v/0
> >
> > *The 4.8.3 is out! New features:*
> 
> 
> >
> > This is a very important release to me. It tries to solve the
> problem
> > present in the most open source music-production libraries. It's
> often the
> > pack of beautiful sounds/timbres is missing. User is presented
> with many
> > audio primitives but no timbres are present to show the real
> power of the
> > framework. This release solves this problem. See the friend
> package
> > csound-catalog on Hackage. It defines 200+ beautiful instruments
> ready to
> > be used.
> >
> > The csound-expression defines a new type called Patch for
> description of an
> > instrument with a chain of effects. It's good place to start the
> journey to
> > the world of music production.
> >
> > There are new functions for synchronized reaction on events. The
> triggering
> > of events can be synchronized with given BPM.
> >
> > The library is updated for GHC-7.10!
> >
> >
> > github repo: https://github.com/spell-music/csound-expression
> >
> > hackage: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/csound-expression
> >
> >
> > Cheers!
> 
> 
>
>


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