[Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

2007-09-11 Thread clisper
haskell is greate
but i don't know how to start.

2007-09-11 



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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

2007-09-11 Thread Peter Verswyvelen
Because I had a background in videogame development, I purchased The
Haskell School of Expression. I found this a great book, but it has a
fast pace, so be prepared.

To me, Haskell was a bit like climbing a mountain which is largely
covered by fog; you don't see anything until you've climbed high enough,
and then the view is really beautiful ;-)

Peter

clisper wrote:
 haskell is greate
 but i don't know how to start.
 2007-09-11
 
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

2007-09-11 Thread Dougal Stanton
On 11/09/2007, Peter Verswyvelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To me, Haskell was a bit like climbing a mountain which is largely
 covered by fog; you don't see anything until you've climbed high enough,
 and then the view is really beautiful ;-)

Either that or: the foothills are glorious, but as soon as you get
into the higher altitudes you can fall down a monad and not be able to
escape...

D.
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RE: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

2007-09-11 Thread bf3
LOL! 

Another problem is that I always have to descend again for my main job which
involves C#/C++, and all that climbing up and down is *very* tiersome.

Peter

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Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

On 11/09/2007, Peter Verswyvelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To me, Haskell was a bit like climbing a mountain which is largely
 covered by fog; you don't see anything until you've climbed high enough,
 and then the view is really beautiful ;-)

Either that or: the foothills are glorious, but as soon as you get
into the higher altitudes you can fall down a monad and not be able to
escape...

D.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

2007-09-11 Thread Brent Yorgey
On 9/11/07, clisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  haskell is greate
 but i don't know how to start.


A good place to start is the Haskell wiki:

http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell

On the left, look under Learning Haskell -- there's all kinds of great
stuff linked from there.  I would also suggest hanging out in the #haskell
IRC channel on irc.freenode.net -- it's a great place to learn and ask
questions.

If you give us more information about your programming/mathematics
background, why you're learning Haskell, what you hope to get out of it,
etc. I'm sure people could also give you some more specific suggestions.

-Brent
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

2007-09-11 Thread Andrew Coppin

Dougal Stanton wrote:

On 11/09/2007, Peter Verswyvelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

To me, Haskell was a bit like climbing a mountain which is largely
covered by fog; you don't see anything until you've climbed high enough,
and then the view is really beautiful ;-)



Either that or: the foothills are glorious, but as soon as you get
into the higher altitudes you can fall down a monad and not be able to
escape...
  


At the risk of being told to STHU again... somebody should collect these 
things and keep them somewhere!


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

2007-09-11 Thread Dan Piponi
On 9/11/07, Andrew Coppin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 you can fall down a monad and not be able to
  escape...

It's not so bad. It's in the nature of monads that after you've fallen
in once, you can never get trapped any deeper.
--
Dan
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

2007-09-11 Thread Ronald Guida

Dan Piponi wrote:
 On 9/11/07, Andrew Coppin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 you can fall down a monad and not be able to escape...

 It's not so bad. It's in the nature of monads that after you've fallen
 in once, you can never get trapped any deeper.

But you can climb higher...
(Note: Best viewed in mono-space!)


Programmer's
 Nirvana plane
 ---
   Categoric plane
 ---
  Co-Monadic plane
(Co- everything)
 -
  Applicative plane
--
  Pointless-pointfree plane
--
  Monadic plane  (don't get trapped)
------
  Functional plane  (Haskell et al!)
------
  Imperative plane  ASM, C#, Java :)
------
  Physical plane  (e.g. Silicon)


-- Ron

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

2007-09-11 Thread David Menendez
On 9/11/07, Andrew Coppin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dougal Stanton wrote:
  On 11/09/2007, Peter Verswyvelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  To me, Haskell was a bit like climbing a mountain which is largely
  covered by fog; you don't see anything until you've climbed high enough,
  and then the view is really beautiful ;-)
 
 
  Either that or: the foothills are glorious, but as soon as you get
  into the higher altitudes you can fall down a monad and not be able to
  escape...
 

 At the risk of being told to STHU again... somebody should collect these
 things and keep them somewhere!

The logical place would be http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Humor.
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