Re: [Haskell-cafe] Obscure weirdness
Andrew Coppin wrote: Anyway, I shall try 6.10.3 and see what happens. Recompiled my program. It now throws a "loop" exception (which the exception handler catches) instead of just dying. (Curiosly, the exception handler itself then throws an exception saying ": hGetLine: illegal operation (handle is finalized)". It worked fine before... anybody know about this?) ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Obscure weirdness
Raynor Vliegendhart wrote: There is a bug in ghci 6.10.1 that seems to be fixed in 6.10.3 (not sure whether it's fixed in 6.10.3). Certain non-terminating expressions causes ghci to crash immediately and go back to the prompt: C:\>ghci GHCi, version 6.10.1: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/ :? for help Loading package ghc-prim ... linking ... done. Loading package integer ... linking ... done. Loading package base ... linking ... done. Prelude> let loop = loop in loop C:\> Compiling a module with a non-terminating expression first with ghc and then loading it in ghci does not seem to result in a crash. That certainly sounds very much like the behaviour I'm seeing, except... it happens whether or not the code is compiled. If I run GHCi with nothing compiled, it crashes. If I compile all the modules and run GHCi, it crashes. If I make a stand-alone executable and run it, it crashes. Anyway, I shall try 6.10.3 and see what happens. PS. Is there a ticket for this? I mean, it seems to be fixed, but we should probably still record it somehow? ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Obscure weirdness
On 6/20/09, Andrew Coppin wrote: > > Is this a known bug in GHC 6.10.1? Will upgrading fix it? (Obviously, it's > quite a lot of work to change GHC.) Suffice it to say that my program is > quite big and complicated; it worked fine when it was still small and > simple. ;-) There is a bug in ghci 6.10.1 that seems to be fixed in 6.10.3 (not sure whether it's fixed in 6.10.3). Certain non-terminating expressions causes ghci to crash immediately and go back to the prompt: C:\>ghci GHCi, version 6.10.1: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/ :? for help Loading package ghc-prim ... linking ... done. Loading package integer ... linking ... done. Loading package base ... linking ... done. Prelude> let loop = loop in loop C:\> Compiling a module with a non-terminating expression first with ghc and then loading it in ghci does not seem to result in a crash. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Obscure weirdness
Did you try running it in some debugger, like windbg or VS? 2009/6/20 Andrew Coppin : > Marcin Kosiba wrote: >> >> On Saturday 20 June 2009, Andrew Coppin wrote: >> >>> >>> OK, so here's an interesting problem... >>> >>> I've been coding away all day, but now my program is doing something >>> slightly weird. For a specific input, it summarily terminates. The >>> registered exception handler does not fire. There is no output to stdout >>> or stderr indicating what the problem is. It just *stops* half way >>> through the printout. >>> >>> Weirder: If I run it in GHCi, then GHCi itself terminates. (I didn't >>> think you could *do* that!) >>> >> >> Hi, >> With the information you've provided it's hard to even guess. At >> least take a look at your app's RAM usage -- it just may be that its >> allocating too much memory and the OOM killer is killing it (if you're >> running linux, that is). >> You may also want to try the GHCi debugger [1] to find out where >> the program crashes. The last thing I'd do is blame it on ghc/ghci, but as >> always -- such a possibility exists. >> > > It's Windows. And while it's possible (indeed even probable) that my code > has an infinite loop in it somewhere, usually that makes the program slow to > a crawl and start thrashing the HD as it hits virtual memory. But this > program just dies. Instantly. > > And I already tried the GHCi debugger. When I run the program, GHCi just > quits. I suppose if I can track down exactly *where* in the program it's > dying, I could try single-stepping through it... > > If I was doing something tricky like FFI or unsafe coersions, I'd assume I'd > got it wrong somewhere. But I'm just doing plain ordinary Haskell stuff - > traversing trees, pattern matching, etc. I'm a bit perplexed that it can > fail this way. > > ___ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Obscure weirdness
Marcin Kosiba wrote: On Saturday 20 June 2009, Andrew Coppin wrote: OK, so here's an interesting problem... I've been coding away all day, but now my program is doing something slightly weird. For a specific input, it summarily terminates. The registered exception handler does not fire. There is no output to stdout or stderr indicating what the problem is. It just *stops* half way through the printout. Weirder: If I run it in GHCi, then GHCi itself terminates. (I didn't think you could *do* that!) Hi, With the information you've provided it's hard to even guess. At least take a look at your app's RAM usage -- it just may be that its allocating too much memory and the OOM killer is killing it (if you're running linux, that is). You may also want to try the GHCi debugger [1] to find out where the program crashes. The last thing I'd do is blame it on ghc/ghci, but as always -- such a possibility exists. It's Windows. And while it's possible (indeed even probable) that my code has an infinite loop in it somewhere, usually that makes the program slow to a crawl and start thrashing the HD as it hits virtual memory. But this program just dies. Instantly. And I already tried the GHCi debugger. When I run the program, GHCi just quits. I suppose if I can track down exactly *where* in the program it's dying, I could try single-stepping through it... If I was doing something tricky like FFI or unsafe coersions, I'd assume I'd got it wrong somewhere. But I'm just doing plain ordinary Haskell stuff - traversing trees, pattern matching, etc. I'm a bit perplexed that it can fail this way. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Obscure weirdness
On Saturday 20 June 2009, Andrew Coppin wrote: > OK, so here's an interesting problem... > > I've been coding away all day, but now my program is doing something > slightly weird. For a specific input, it summarily terminates. The > registered exception handler does not fire. There is no output to stdout > or stderr indicating what the problem is. It just *stops* half way > through the printout. > > Weirder: If I run it in GHCi, then GHCi itself terminates. (I didn't > think you could *do* that!) > > It's not as if my program is anything unusual. There are no unsafe > functions. No FFI. Nothing. Just regular high-level Haskell. > > Is this a known bug in GHC 6.10.1? Will upgrading fix it? (Obviously, > it's quite a lot of work to change GHC.) Suffice it to say that my > program is quite big and complicated; it worked fine when it was still > small and simple. ;-) Hi, With the information you've provided it's hard to even guess. At least take a look at your app's RAM usage -- it just may be that its allocating too much memory and the OOM killer is killing it (if you're running linux, that is). You may also want to try the GHCi debugger [1] to find out where the program crashes. The last thing I'd do is blame it on ghc/ghci, but as always -- such a possibility exists. Thanks! Marcin Kosiba [1] http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/ghci-debugger.html ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Obscure weirdness
Really, without code or more than "it just disappears", it's just conjecture what's happening. Can you post the code, or even better yet a minimized case that reproduces it? -Ross On Jun 20, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Andrew Coppin wrote: Alexander Dunlap wrote: On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Andrew Coppin wrote: OK, so here's an interesting problem... I've been coding away all day, but now my program is doing something slightly weird. For a specific input, it summarily terminates. The registered exception handler does not fire. There is no output to stdout or stderr indicating what the problem is. It just *stops* half way through the printout. Weirder: If I run it in GHCi, then GHCi itself terminates. (I didn't think you could *do* that!) I think you'll need to provide a bit more detail about what you're doing in order for anyone to have anything to go off of. If you can link to the source, that would help, or even give a summary of what you're trying to do. The program takes some text, parses it as a lambda calculus expression, and prints it out again. Except, somewhere during the variable uniqueness pass, the program just halts. For no defined reason. As you can see, nothing remotely unusual for a Haskell program to be doing. And yet, the result is very unusual. (I.e., halting part-way through some pure code without throwing an exception.) Given that it doesn't appear to be a known bug (presumably somebody would have said something by now if it was...), I think I'm going to try upgrading GHC anyway, just for arguments' sake, and see if that fixes it. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Obscure weirdness
Alexander Dunlap wrote: On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Andrew Coppin wrote: OK, so here's an interesting problem... I've been coding away all day, but now my program is doing something slightly weird. For a specific input, it summarily terminates. The registered exception handler does not fire. There is no output to stdout or stderr indicating what the problem is. It just *stops* half way through the printout. Weirder: If I run it in GHCi, then GHCi itself terminates. (I didn't think you could *do* that!) I think you'll need to provide a bit more detail about what you're doing in order for anyone to have anything to go off of. If you can link to the source, that would help, or even give a summary of what you're trying to do. The program takes some text, parses it as a lambda calculus expression, and prints it out again. Except, somewhere during the variable uniqueness pass, the program just halts. For no defined reason. As you can see, nothing remotely unusual for a Haskell program to be doing. And yet, the result is very unusual. (I.e., halting part-way through some pure code without throwing an exception.) Given that it doesn't appear to be a known bug (presumably somebody would have said something by now if it was...), I think I'm going to try upgrading GHC anyway, just for arguments' sake, and see if that fixes it. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Obscure weirdness
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Andrew Coppin wrote: > > OK, so here's an interesting problem... > > I've been coding away all day, but now my program is doing something slightly > weird. For a specific input, it summarily terminates. The registered > exception handler does not fire. There is no output to stdout or stderr > indicating what the problem is. It just *stops* half way through the printout. > > Weirder: If I run it in GHCi, then GHCi itself terminates. (I didn't think > you could *do* that!) > > It's not as if my program is anything unusual. There are no unsafe functions. > No FFI. Nothing. Just regular high-level Haskell. > > Is this a known bug in GHC 6.10.1? Will upgrading fix it? (Obviously, it's > quite a lot of work to change GHC.) Suffice it to say that my program is > quite big and complicated; it worked fine when it was still small and simple. > ;-) > > > ___ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe I think you'll need to provide a bit more detail about what you're doing in order for anyone to have anything to go off of. If you can link to the source, that would help, or even give a summary of what you're trying to do. Alex ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] Obscure weirdness
OK, so here's an interesting problem... I've been coding away all day, but now my program is doing something slightly weird. For a specific input, it summarily terminates. The registered exception handler does not fire. There is no output to stdout or stderr indicating what the problem is. It just *stops* half way through the printout. Weirder: If I run it in GHCi, then GHCi itself terminates. (I didn't think you could *do* that!) It's not as if my program is anything unusual. There are no unsafe functions. No FFI. Nothing. Just regular high-level Haskell. Is this a known bug in GHC 6.10.1? Will upgrading fix it? (Obviously, it's quite a lot of work to change GHC.) Suffice it to say that my program is quite big and complicated; it worked fine when it was still small and simple. ;-) ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
