Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell-Wiki Account registration
Benjamin L.Russell wrote: Why not ask new users to identify letters in a random bitmapped image of a string, as is commonly done? Then any new user who still registers and starts submitting spam can be tracked and moderated. If this doesn't work out we can always use hackage's approach: have someone answer emails requesting new accounts. Martijn. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell-Wiki Account registration
Henning Thielemann wrote: How long will the Wiki account registration be disabled? Would it be possible to ask a question, that real Haskellers could easily answer, but a spambot cannot? E.g. What's Haskell's surname? It will be re-enabled when an appropriate extension to MediaWiki is installed. An appropriate extension will be installed when MediaWiki is upgraded to a version that supports that. MediaWiki will be upgraded when PHP and MySQL are upgraded. MySQL cannot easily be upgraded on the existing distribution (RHEL AS 3 update 9 with Linux 2.4.21), as various other packages depend on the current version. MySQL will be upgraded when we have a more up-to-date distribution (for instance, Debian 4.0). http://haskell.org/pipermail/haskell/2009-January/020916.html We will have a more up-to-date distribution when a new machine takes over from the existing machine at Yale. I don't know when anyone will have a new machine. This is an overview of which machine does what: http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell.org_domain -- Ashley Yakeley ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell-Wiki Account registration
Henning Thielemann lemm...@henning-thielemann.de wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Benjamin L.Russell wrote: Why not ask new users to identify letters in a random bitmapped image of a string, as is commonly done? I assume, because those images are 1) not accessible by blind people 2) can be decoded by spammers, since they know how the images are generated by common software. Thus my suggestion was a simple Haskell specific question, which cannot be answered by stupid spambots. http://recaptcha.net is believed to be spam-proof, and there's good reasons to believe so, see http://recaptcha.net/security.html : It starts off with text that can't be OCR'd, in the first place. It also features an audio mode for accessibility. Question-based captchas provide security by rarity. You can be sure that if a spammer really, really wants to spam on the wiki, it won't take long before a program is written that memoises all questions and answers. -- (c) this sig last receiving data processing entity. Inspect headers for copyright history. All rights reserved. Copying, hiring, renting, performance and/or quoting of this signature prohibited. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell-Wiki Account registration
On 14 Mar 2009, at 10:20, Ashley Yakeley wrote: We will have a more up-to-date distribution when a new machine takes over from the existing machine at Yale. I don't know when anyone will have a new machine. The contract with Yale for running the haskell.org machine is due for its yearly renewal in the early summer (around July I think). Various people have already mooted the possibility of re-locating all of the services provided on that machine, by purchasing hosting elsewhere. So we should be aiming to plan which version of which software to install on the new machine, and an orderly transfer of content in that sort of timeframe. Regards, Malcolm ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell-Wiki Account registration
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Benjamin L.Russell wrote: Why not ask new users to identify letters in a random bitmapped image of a string, as is commonly done? I assume, because those images are 1) not accessible by blind people 2) can be decoded by spammers, since they know how the images are generated by common software. Thus my suggestion was a simple Haskell specific question, which cannot be answered by stupid spambots. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell-Wiki Account registration
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:31:49 +0100 (CET), Henning Thielemann lemm...@henning-thielemann.de wrote: How long will the Wiki account registration be disabled? Would it be possible to ask a question, that real Haskellers could easily answer, but a spambot cannot? E.g. What's Haskell's surname? Indeed. Disabling Wiki account registration indefinitely, and not replacing it by at least some form of automatic registration, risks allowing outsiders to think that the HaskellWiki is somehow run by some clique, which I'm sure is not the case. Automating the process removes most of the risk of this misimpression. Why not ask new users to identify letters in a random bitmapped image of a string, as is commonly done? Then any new user who still registers and starts submitting spam can be tracked and moderated. -- Benjamin L. Russell -- Benjamin L. Russell / DekuDekuplex at Yahoo dot com http://dekudekuplex.wordpress.com/ Translator/Interpreter / Mobile: +011 81 80-3603-6725 Furuike ya, kawazu tobikomu mizu no oto. -- Matsuo Basho^ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell-Wiki Account registration
As long as one is implementing a CAPTCHA, the reCAPTCHA [1] is my humble suggestion, I have no idea how the haskellwiki is implemented or how easy this is to implement, but I imagine it couldn't be _that_ hard. /Joe [1] http://recaptcha.net/ Benjamin L.Russell wrote: On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:31:49 +0100 (CET), Henning Thielemann lemm...@henning-thielemann.de wrote: How long will the Wiki account registration be disabled? Would it be possible to ask a question, that real Haskellers could easily answer, but a spambot cannot? E.g. What's Haskell's surname? Indeed. Disabling Wiki account registration indefinitely, and not replacing it by at least some form of automatic registration, risks allowing outsiders to think that the HaskellWiki is somehow run by some clique, which I'm sure is not the case. Automating the process removes most of the risk of this misimpression. Why not ask new users to identify letters in a random bitmapped image of a string, as is commonly done? Then any new user who still registers and starts submitting spam can be tracked and moderated. -- Benjamin L. Russell begin:vcard fn:Joseph Fredette n:Fredette;Joseph adr:Apartment #3;;6 Dean Street;Worcester;Massachusetts;01609;United States of America email;internet:jfred...@gmail.com tel;home:1-508-966-9889 tel;cell:1-508-254-9901 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:lowlymath.net, humbuggery.net version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
