Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

[David Menendez]

On 9/11/07, Andrew Coppin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dougal Stanton wrote:
> > On 11/09/2007, Peter Verswyvelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> To me, Haskell was a bit like climbing a mountain which is largely
> >> covered by fog; you don't see anything until you've climbed high enough,
> >> and then the view is really beautiful ;-)
> >>
> >
> > Either that or: the foothills are glorious, but as soon as you get
> > into the higher altitudes you can fall down a monad and not be able to
> > escape...
> >
>
> At the risk of being told to STHU again... somebody should collect these
> things and keep them somewhere!

The logical place would be .
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

[Ronald Guida]

Dan Piponi wrote:
> On 9/11/07, Andrew Coppin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> you can fall down a monad and not be able to escape...
>
> It's not so bad. It's in the nature of monads that after you've fallen
> in once, you can never get trapped any deeper.

But you can climb higher...
(Note: Best viewed in mono-space!)


Programmer's
 Nirvana plane
 ---
   Categoric plane
 ---
  Co-Monadic plane
(Co- everything)
 -
  Applicative plane
--
  Pointless-pointfree plane
--
  Monadic plane  (don't get trapped)
------
  Functional plane  (Haskell et al!)
------
  Imperative plane  ASM, C#, Java :)
------
  Physical plane  (e.g. Silicon)


-- Ron

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

[Dan Piponi]

On 9/11/07, Andrew Coppin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you can fall down a monad and not be able to
> > escape...

It's not so bad. It's in the nature of monads that after you've fallen
in once, you can never get trapped any deeper.
--
Dan
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

[Andrew Coppin]

Dougal Stanton wrote:

On 11/09/2007, Peter Verswyvelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

To me, Haskell was a bit like climbing a mountain which is largely
covered by fog; you don't see anything until you've climbed high enough,
and then the view is really beautiful ;-)



Either that or: the foothills are glorious, but as soon as you get
into the higher altitudes you can fall down a monad and not be able to
escape...
  


At the risk of being told to STHU again... somebody should collect these 
things and keep them somewhere!


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

[Brent Yorgey]

On 9/11/07, clisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  haskell is greate
> but i don't know how to start.
>

A good place to start is the Haskell wiki:

http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell

On the left, look under "Learning Haskell" -- there's all kinds of great
stuff linked from there.  I would also suggest hanging out in the #haskell
IRC channel on irc.freenode.net -- it's a great place to learn and ask
questions.

If you give us more information about your programming/mathematics
background, why you're learning Haskell, what you hope to get out of it,
etc. I'm sure people could also give you some more specific suggestions.

-Brent
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RE: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

[bf3]

LOL! 

Another problem is that I always have to descend again for my main job which
involves C#/C++, and all that climbing up and down is *very* tiersome.

Peter

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Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

On 11/09/2007, Peter Verswyvelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To me, Haskell was a bit like climbing a mountain which is largely
> covered by fog; you don't see anything until you've climbed high enough,
> and then the view is really beautiful ;-)

Either that or: the foothills are glorious, but as soon as you get
into the higher altitudes you can fall down a monad and not be able to
escape...

D.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

[Dougal Stanton]

On 11/09/2007, Peter Verswyvelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To me, Haskell was a bit like climbing a mountain which is largely
> covered by fog; you don't see anything until you've climbed high enough,
> and then the view is really beautiful ;-)

Either that or: the foothills are glorious, but as soon as you get
into the higher altitudes you can fall down a monad and not be able to
escape...

D.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Can somebody give any advice for beginners?

[Peter Verswyvelen]

Because I had a background in videogame development, I purchased "The
Haskell School of Expression". I found this a great book, but it has a
fast pace, so be prepared.

To me, Haskell was a bit like climbing a mountain which is largely
covered by fog; you don't see anything until you've climbed high enough,
and then the view is really beautiful ;-)

Peter

clisper wrote:
> haskell is greate
> but i don't know how to start.
> 2007-09-11
> 
> clisper
> 
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