Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Weekly News: Issue 140 - November 22, 2009

2009-11-24 Thread Richard O'Keefe


On Nov 24, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Sean Leather wrote:



On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 05:46, Richard O'Keefe wrote:
For example, "ai" in Maori means "to copulate",

Really [1]? It's amazing what Google [2] will tell you these days. ;)


Really!  Check
http://www.maoridictionary.co.nz/

In fact if you read [1], you will find
"There is also another lexical ai which
is a verb with the meaning ‘to copulate’"
on page 4.


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Weekly News: Issue 140 - November 22, 2009

2009-11-24 Thread Sean Leather
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 05:46, Richard O'Keefe wrote:

> For example, "ai" in Maori means "to copulate",
>

Really [1]? It's amazing what Google [2] will tell you these days. ;)

[1] http://researchspace.auckland.ac.nz/handle/2292/343
[2] http://www.google.com/search?q=ai+maori

Regards,
Sean
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Weekly News: Issue 140 - November 22, 2009

2009-11-23 Thread Richard O'Keefe

I should point out that what seems like a rude name in one
language may be a perfectly proper word in another.
For example, "ai" in Maori means "to copulate", and yet
we have things like the AI Journal.  Naughty naughty.
F*ck is a perfectly good German name, I believe, and
you will find that name associated with some fungi.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Weekly News: Issue 140 - November 22, 2009

2009-11-23 Thread Conor McBride

Hi Benjamin

On 24 Nov 2009, at 02:35, Benjamin L.Russell wrote:


On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:14:29 -0800 (PST), jfred...@gmail.com wrote:


 Typef*ck: Brainf*ck in the type system. Johnny Morrice [23]showed us
 his implementation of everyone's favorite profane programming
 language... in the type system.



In general, if a programming language-related term contains what is
generally regarded as a profane word as a component, for what kinds of
written material should I prioritize accuracy vs. propriety?


Who gives a brain?

More seriously, I worry that inaccuracy (other than blessed relief from
tedious pedantry, of course) might ever be improper. Lots of arts
academia write learned articles about filth, and it's no big deal when
it's in quotation. That's the situation here, no? Perhaps use quotation
marks just to be clear that the terminology is not of your making. But
you should have no need of ASCII-art fig leaves.

(Now, as far as *email* (e.g., HWN) is concerned, it makes sense to act
like wise spammers the world over and disguise your true intentions from
the automated filters. People from Scunthorpe must be really fed up  
doing

that. I know they're fed up being used as an example, too. Sorry.)

Yours ever

Coqnor

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Weekly News: Issue 140 - November 22, 2009

2009-11-23 Thread Joe Fredette
I censored it because I intend the HWN to be a PG rated article. I  
figure -- while I am not under any delusion that kids these days have  
mouths fouler than mine, which is a feat for sure -- that some young  
programmer with strict speaking morals may stumble upon the HWN and say,


 "Hey self! This is a fantastically written weekly newsletter  
concerning
 recent developments in this community, and did I mention how  
wonderfully

 written it is?"

I should want said programmer to not feel any offense that can be  
easily avoided by a single * here or !...@#$ there.


Generally I'm opposed to censorship -- but that generally entails an  
authority censoring against the will of the author, I think that in  
this case -- as I am the author/editor (not of the post proper, but  
rather the conduit to the post) -- that censorship-self-inflicted  
doesn't really count.


I guess my view is that such a paper with an unintentionally foul- 
mouthed name -- like Brainf*ck -- ought not be the reason for which  
your paper is rejected from a journal or other publication source, but  
rather it should be understood that it might be mildly censored (as I  
did) if it is publish, in accordance with the intended audience of the  
publication source.


/Joe


On Nov 23, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Benjamin L.Russell wrote:


On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:14:29 -0800 (PST), jfred...@gmail.com wrote:


 Typef*ck: Brainf*ck in the type system. Johnny Morrice [23]showed us
 his implementation of everyone's favorite profane programming
 language... in the type system.


Incidentally, I've always wondered about the politically correct way
of referring to this programming language (and related implementation
in the above-mentioned type system) in academic circles; if I were
writing a paper for submission to an academic journal, should I place
priority on accuracy or propriety?  In general, for what kinds of
publications should I prioritize one criterion over the other?

In general, if a programming language-related term contains what is
generally regarded as a profane word as a component, for what kinds of
written material should I prioritize accuracy vs. propriety?

-- Benjamin L. Russell
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