Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - THANK YOU!!

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Hi I missed this will there be a recording?

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This is such an important topic. Your Cataloging Forum session was a wonderful 
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WOW!!! Thank you so much for everything and for returning presenting. This is 
such an important topic. Your Cataloging Forum session was a wonderful talk and 
I particularly enjoyed your presentation on the walk through – I found it very 
helpful.. You are a captivating speaker and it was obvious that the attendees 
enjoyed your talk. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us.



Wishing you a wonderful rest of the day and an enjoyable weekend,

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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Up 'n coming RAS Cataloging Workshops

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All look interesting. Hope to join you.


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Dear Catalogers, A few heads-up. The Librarianship and Education Committee is 
developing three cataloging workshops as part of the RAS Cataloging Workshop 
series. Hebrew Grammar for Hebraica Cataloging Cataloging Rare Hebrew Books 
Assigning
Dear Catalogers,

A few heads-up. The Librarianship and Education Committee is developing three 
cataloging workshops as part of the RAS Cataloging Workshop series.

Hebrew Grammar for Hebraica Cataloging

Cataloging Rare Hebrew Books

Assigning Judaica Subject Headings

More information to follow.

Thank you.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving holiday,
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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - REMINDER: Tomorrow (Tuesday, October 31, 2023): Natural Language Processing and its Applications in Hebraica Cataloging

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Hi Aaron,
Does a recording of this session exist? Asking for a colleague who missed it.

Thanks,
MRS

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Please see below. If you plan to attend on Zoom, there is NO need to RSVP.

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Reminder: Natural Language Processing and its Applications in Hebraica 
Cataloging presentation tomorrow!

The ASME Division cordially invites you to a presentation on “Natural Language 
Processing and its Applications in Hebraica Cataloging” by Dr. Avi Shmidman of 
Bar-Ilan University in Israel.  The presentation is scheduled for October 31 
from 1:30pm to 2:30pm EDT.  This will be a hybrid event, held both via Zoom and 
in person in the ASME Conference Room in LM541.  Seating is limited, so please 
email Jessalyn Zoom at j...@loc.gov in advance if you plan 
to attend in person.  We are looking forward to having you join us on October 
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Title: Natural Language Processing and its Applications in Hebraica Cataloging
Presenter: Dr. Avi Shmidman, Bar-Ilan University, Israel
Date and Time: October 31, 1:30pm-2:30pm EDT, via Zoom and in LM541 Conference 
Room
Synopsis: One of the most exciting advances of the last few years in the world 
of Natural Language Processing was the release of the BERT algorithm 
("Bidirectional Encoder Representations from Transformers"). To what extent 
does this algorithm provide the means to understand nuances of Hebrew text, and 
how can this algorithm help us with the specific challenges of Hebrew text 
processing? These are the questions that Dr. Shmidman will explore in this 
lecture. Dr. Shmidman will demonstrate how Hebrew-specific BERT models provide 
the ability to disambiguate Hebrew words, to identify mistakes in large Hebrew 
textual corpora, to expand Hebrew abbreviations, to improve Hebrew optical 
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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - romanization: שם ועבר

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Hi Jasmin,
Quick question: Shem ve-Ever?
Shem va-Ever?
I found 2 records on LC that have it both ways—naturally!
Does it follow the pattern of Yom va-lailah?
Thanks, חג שמח
MRS

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Metadata and Services Department
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
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Hello, friends, and shanah ṭovah! The above title, on 1289500403, is correctly 
romanized Ben yatsivut le-mahpekhah : ʻaśor la-Aviv ha-ʻArvi (instead of the 
current Ben yetsivut la-mahapekhah : ʻaśor le-Aviv ha-ʻAravi). Fixed fields 
and other
Hello, friends, and shanah ṭovah!

The above title, on 1289500403, is correctly romanized Ben yatsivut 
le-mahpekhah : ʻaśor la-Aviv ha-ʻArvi (instead of the current Ben yetsivut 
la-mahapekhah : ʻaśor le-Aviv ha-ʻAravi). Fixed fields and other fields were 
corrected/added.

For the 16 libraries with holdings on the title, you may wish to update your 
local records.

Please let me know if there are any questions.

(All three words, יציבות, מהפכה, ערבי, are in the romanization FAQ. LC was 
notified separately)

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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Main entry update for on1368044073

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Thanks, Lili.
MRS

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Gottesman Library
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Hi all, I was working on record on1368044073 and updated the author information 
as the main entry was associated with a different Jacob Toledano (previously 
entered: Toledano, Jacob Moses, ǂd 1880-1960, OCLC ARN: 2799445). The other 9 
libraries
Hi all,

I was working on record on1368044073 and updated the author information as the 
main entry was associated with a different Jacob Toledano (previously entered: 
Toledano, Jacob Moses, ǂd 1880-1960, OCLC ARN: 2799445).

The other 9 libraries who have this resource in their holdings might want to 
update their local ILS to reflect this change as well. Let me know if there are 
any questions or concerns!

Best,
Lili

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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - romanization of לפני ולפנים

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Can you explain why it's not li-fene?

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Hi, for the 12 libraries with holdings on the above title, on1266383474, you 
may wish to update your local records. The title proper is correctly romanized 
Li-fenai ṿeli-fenim (not Li-fene). Please let me know if there are any 
questions. Thanks,

Hi, for the 12 libraries with holdings on the above title, on1266383474, you 
may wish to update your local records. The title proper is correctly romanized 
Li-fenai ṿeli-fenim (not Li-fene).



Please let me know if there are any questions.



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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Re: Romanization of ההונן

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The title page sure looks like a heh, but it is obviously ha-h.onen le-adam 
da'at with a het.

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It is החונן – ha-.honen



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kol tsoholah 1. pdf Hi all, Hopping on the Romanization help train here. Thanks 
in advance for your time and assistance! I'm cataloging a reproduction of ספר 
קול צהלה (original OCLC: #500291215) and am stuck on the word ההונן in the 
subtitle. 

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1.pdf



Hi all,



Hopping on the Romanization help train here. Thanks in advance for your time 
and assistance!



I'm cataloging a reproduction of ספר קול צהלה (original OCLC: #500291215) and 
am stuck on the word ההונן in the subtitle. I've attached the title page - as 
you can see, the reproduction isn't crystal clear, but I feel certain that the 
spelling is ההונן rather than one of the ה's being a ח, but I could definitely 
be wrong. A keyword search of this word didn't lend me any results, and I can't 
seem to track it down in Even Shoshan (pages I consulted also attached).



In context, the whole subtitle phrase makes me think it is a sort of 
conjugation or (mis?)spelling of הון, so my best guess at the Romanization is 
ha-honan.



Curious what others think and would appreciate any perspectives!



Best,

Lili



P.S. - if anyone can't view the PDF attachment, let me know. I originally 
attached it to the email as a separate file (versus a OneDrive link), but the 
listserv said it was too big a file to send out. My apologies if that means 
this email went out twice...!



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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Re: Jewish Christians subject heading

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A Jewish Christian is Jewish but believes Jesus is the messiah.

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Hi Haim, I think the heading itself is problematic too. It's misleading. What 
is a Jewish Christian? You are either one or the other. Caroline Caroline R. 
Miller Team Leader, Discovery Team UCLA Library Resource Acquisitions and 
Metadata Services
Hi Haim,

I think the heading itself is problematic too.  It's misleading.  What is a 
Jewish Christian?  You are either one or the other.

Caroline


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Hi Sharon, Thank you for bringing these headings to our attention. I’ll bring 
this up at my next LCDGT meeting and propose a change to the note. As for the 
LCSH heading, we can add this to the list of other changes and proposals. Best,

Hi Sharon,



Thank you for bringing these headings to our attention. I’ll bring this up at 
my next LCDGT meeting and propose a change to the note. As for the LCSH 
heading, we can add this to the list of other changes and proposals.



Best,

Haim



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I was working on a NAR and on page 4 of the cover the author states he is a 
Messianic Jew. I looked in both LCSH and LCDGT and both use the term Jewish 
Christians. The scope note is really concerning and seems incorrect. "Here are 
entered

I was working on a NAR and on page 4 of the cover the author states he is a 
Messianic Jew. I looked in both LCSH and LCDGT and both use the term Jewish 
Christians. The scope note is really concerning and seems incorrect.

"Here are entered works on Christians of Jewish antecedence who still identify, 
or are identified, with their Jewish origins, including adherents of Messianic 
Judaism."



I don't think all "Messianic Jews" start off as Jews but are Christians who get 
involved in this movement. I propose that this subject term gets added to the 
Christian bias in LCSH project.



Sharon





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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Re: Jewish Christians subject heading

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>From my (limited) experience, Christians who identify with Messianic Judaism 
>are seeking Jewish converts.

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Hi Sharon, Thank you for bringing these headings to our attention. I'll bring 
this up at my next LCDGT meeting and propose a change to the note. As for the 
LCSH heading, we can add this to the list of other changes and proposals. Best,
Hi Sharon,

Thank you for bringing these headings to our attention. I'll bring this up at 
my next LCDGT meeting and propose a change to the note. As for the LCSH 
heading, we can add this to the list of other changes and proposals.

Best,
Haim

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I was working on a NAR and on page 4 of the cover the author states he is a 
Messianic Jew. I looked in both LCSH and LCDGT and both use the term Jewish 
Christians. The scope note is really concerning and seems incorrect. "Here are 
entered
I was working on a NAR and on page 4 of the cover the author states he is a 
Messianic Jew. I looked in both LCSH and LCDGT and both use the term Jewish 
Christians. The scope note is really concerning and seems incorrect.
"Here are entered works on Christians of Jewish antecedence who still identify, 
or are identified, with their Jewish origins, including adherents of Messianic 
Judaism."

I don't think all "Messianic Jews" start off as Jews but are Christians who get 
involved in this movement. I propose that this subject term gets added to the 
Christian bias in LCSH project.

Sharon



Sharon Benamou


Hebraica/Judaica and Music Catalog Librarian
Resource Acquisitions & Metadata Services
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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Roger's Demographic Group Term tentative monthly list 2308x (August 1, 2023)

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Hi Roger,
If approved, how will terms such as these get into the list of subject 
authorities?
MRS

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LIBRARY OF CONGRESS LCDGT HEADINGS
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The proposed headings on this list are NOT YET APPROVED and not yet available 
for use in current cataloging.

Send all comments on this list to the LCDGT Project by July 28 - Email: 
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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Cataloging Forum: Provenance in Rare Judaica Cataloging - TODAY

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

So glad you sent a reminder! I registered but lost the Zoom link. Can you 
please resend?


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New York, N.Y. 10033

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Reminder: AJL Cataloging Forum: Provenance in Rare Judaica Cataloging Thursday, 
May 18 9: 30 am PT / 12: 30 pm ET In cataloging rare Hebraica, there are times 
when the cataloger will find evidence of previous ownership. This session, led 
by expert
Reminder:
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In cataloging rare Hebraica, there are times when the cataloger will find 
evidence of previous ownership. This session, led by expert special collections 
cataloger Louis Meiselman of the University of Pennsylvania, will show 
participants where to find this information in the resource and how to record 
it in the bibliographic record.

This session is sponsored by AJL’s RAS Division and is open to members only. 
All members are welcome.

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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - RAS-AJL Cataloging Committee meeting and call for agenda items

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

Hi,
How do we advance the Christian biases in subject headings? Are we to assume 
that the only way to change them is to propose each one individually? That’s a 
lot of work. I think it’s similar to the case of Marranos which was changed by 
some agreement that it was not a proper term. Of course, each one has to be 
worked on, but as a set of terms, they have to be addressed as needing 
modification.
MRS

Marlene Schiffman
Metadata and Services Department
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

Gottesman Library
Room 301
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agenda items

**External Email**
Dear all, Please mark your calendars for the annual RAS-AJL Cataloging 
Committee meeting which will be held on June 15th, 12: 00 EDT. That is the week 
before AJL conference. Connection details will be shared later in the month. In 
the meantime,
Dear all,

Please mark your calendars for the annual RAS-AJL Cataloging Committee meeting 
which will be held on June 15th, 12:00 EDT. That is the week before AJL 
conference.

Connection details will be shared later in the month. In the meantime, this is 
a call for agenda items. Please send your suggestions to me, at neilfrau at 
gmail dot com.

In the meantime, here’s a provisional agenda for the meeting

• Approval of minutes
• Committee membership and chair.
• Possible modification of the current LC Classification Schedule 
caption in the BM674.6-BM674.76 range (Haggadot texts) to include the option of 
cuttering for commentor (or if necessary, publisher).(Aaron)
• Update on droppable title words? (Aaron)
• Updates from NLI? (David)
• Training for new catalogers (Haim, Jasmin, Aaron)
• Review and approval revised patronymic name policy on NARs 
(committee, Jasmin, Aaron).



Kol tuv,


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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - FW: Invitation for feedback on RBMS terms for prejudicial works

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

I looked at this list. They changed Anti-Semitic literature to Anti-Semitic 
works. I don’t think that makes much of a difference. But we (Jewish people) 
were never happy with the term antisemitism in the first place. Who are these 
“Semites” that people hate? There are Anti-Catholic works. Why can’t we have 
Anti-Jewish works? I am surprised that someone didn’t complain about that. But 
I guess that antisemitism is such an accepted term these days that LC can’t 
change what people call it by a cross reference in their catalog.
It’s like African-American which was written against recently by Morgan 
Freeman. He said it’s not an appropriate term because no other group is 
identified by a continent. But it’s the accepted term. What else would you call 
it? Like antisemitism, that’s what people use. So calling it something else 
would be confusing. Like the term Orthodox Judaism. We (the Orthodox Jewish 
people) don’t like that term either, but that’s what’s used.
I just got the booklet about indigenous people headings. I saw there are so 
many headings like  Indians. I think the Indians don’t mind that term, even 
though they are not from India. They don’t seem to resent it. (They just resent 
sports teams using names like “Warriors” or “Braves.”). So this seems to be a 
Pandora’s box—all these sensitive terms .

Marlene Schiffman
Metadata and Services Department
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

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prejudicial works

**External Email**
Of possible interest. --Jasmin From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging 
 On Behalf Of Hoover, Sarah Sent: Monday, April 
17, 2023 12: 15 PM To: PCCLIST@ LISTSERV. LOC. GOV Subject: [PCCLIST] 
Invitation for feedback
Of possible interest. --Jasmin

From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging 
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Hoover, Sarah
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 12:15 PM
To: pccl...@listserv.loc.gov
Subject: [PCCLIST] Invitation for feedback on RBMS terms for prejudicial works


The Prejudicial Materials Working Group of RBMS’s Controlled Vocabularies 
Editorial Group invites your feedback on approximately 50 proposed new and 
revised terms for the RBMS Controlled Vocabulary for Rare Materials Cataloging 
(RBMS CVRMC). The Controlled Vocabularies Editorial 
Group
 (CVEG), a committee of the Rare Books and Manuscripts Section (RBMS) of the 
Association of College and Research Libraries (ACRL), maintains RBMS CVRMC.


RBMS CVRMC is a thesaurus of genre and form terms that are specific to the 
needs of the rare materials community. However, the proposed terms, used for 
indexing works that are prejudicial in nature or related to systems of 
oppression, also have wider applicability beyond rare materials. Genre and form 
terms are used to provide controlled description of what resources are (e.g. 
dictionaries, biographies, diaries, correspondence), rather than what they are 
about.


The working group has reviewed extant terminology in the thesaurus to broaden 
terms from “literature” to “works” and revise selected existing scope notes. We 
have also drafted new terms for types of prejudicial works that were not 
previously represented in the thesaurus as well as terms related to colonialism 
and enslavement. The proposals within the Prejudicial works hierarchy are not 
meant to be exhaustive but to provide a scaffold for the future. CVEG 
encourages the community to propose additional narrower terms to further expand 
this section of the thesaurus.


The proposed terms can be viewed as a hierarchical 
list
 and as a comparison of terms with their original 
forms.
 Terms are generally also viewable on 
id.loc.gov,
 but they may have outdated information that has not yet been updated to 
reflect the working group’s most recent decisions. The documents linked above, 
which match what is found in the feedback survey, are the most up-to-date 
version.

Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - another electronic resource for rashe tevot

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

Thanks. What are they using for Before COVID and After COVID. I guess it would 
have to be Corona: that’s what they call it in Israel  אח"ק?
I saved the address. Thanks,

Marlene Schiffman
Metadata and Services Department
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

Gottesman Library
Room 301
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To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 
Subject: [EXT] - [Heb-NACO] another electronic resource for rashe tevot

**External Email**
Dear Colleagues, I just came across this site for reshe tevot – some of you 
might find it useful for cataloging: קיצורים וראשי תיבות בעברית http: //www. 
kizur. co. il/home. php Kol tuv, Haim _ Haim A. Gottschalk 
Hebraica and Judaica
Dear Colleagues,

I just came across this site for reshe tevot – some of you might find it useful 
for cataloging:
קיצורים וראשי תיבות בעברית

https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.kizur.co.il/home.php__;!!KGKeukY!3uLhtRTpZgSUA6owA3pw_gQXU7ta091-BljaP9IlfZoCgdL7hIDcBrsxenSHiGUmpIt-GMNobC0-SJrUaID_SA$
 


Kol tuv,
Haim

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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - A question on Sacred works

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

Remember we had a meeting about this? Someone was supposed to give us a list of 
sacred works. So far, I only know of Mishnah, Talmud and Bible.

Marlene Schiffman
Metadata and Services Department
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Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

Gottesman Library
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From: Heb-naco  On Behalf Of Gottschalk, Haim 
via Heb-naco
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 9:56 AM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 
Subject: [EXT] - [Heb-NACO] A question on Sacred works

**External Email**
Hi Hevre, Does Sacred works include works about the Kabbala or Kabbalistic 
texts? The question has to do with the subdivision of Introductions. All my 
best, Haim _ Haim A. Gottschalk Hebraica and Judaica Cataloging 
Librarian
Hi Hevre,

Does Sacred works include works about the Kabbala or Kabbalistic texts? The 
question has to do with the subdivision of Introductions.

All my best,
Haim

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[Heb-NACO] Yiddish?

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

I just accessed this record and realized that it  (he/ she) thought that the 
epitaphs were written and transcribed from Yiddish. No, they are in Hebrew! 
Just in case you have this record:

Il cimitero ebraico di Conegliano : \b luce eterna sul col Cabalàn / \c a cura 
di Lidia Busetti, Mauro Perani, Antonio Spagnuolo ; prefazione di Giuliano 
Tamani.
OCLC # 1236855542

MRS

Marlene Schiffman
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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Slide from today's Cataloging Session

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

Thanks Haim, for sending this. I will keep it handy and hope that I can make 
use of it every so often.
MRS

Marlene Schiffman
Metadata and Services Department
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

Gottesman Library
Room 301
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From: Heb-naco  On Behalf Of Gottschalk, Haim 
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Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 3:44 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 
Subject: [EXT] - [Heb-NACO] Slide from today's Cataloging Session

**External Email**
Shalom hevre, Here are the slides from today's presentation on LCDGT headings. 
Best, Haim _ Haim A. Gottschalk Hebraica and Judaica Cataloging 
Librarian Asian and Middle Eastern Division, Israel and Judaica Section Onsite
Shalom hevre,

Here are the slides from today's presentation on LCDGT headings.

Best,
Haim



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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - AJL roundtable

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

Rachel,

I usually attend AJL when it is on the East Coast, so it is possible that I 
will be there this year. I am a Judaica cataloger, involved with NACO. If you 
think this would be of interest to your constituents, I would be happy to 
represent this type of career. I actually started out at the Brandeis Library 
as a student and ultimately made a career of it.
Thanks,
MRS

Marlene Schiffman
Metadata and Services Department
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

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Hope your pizza day went well. I’ve been asked by Rachel to forward this to 
Heb-naco on her behalf.

Many thanks,


Neil



Greetings,

I write as AJL liaison to the AJS (Association for Jewish Studies). This past 
December, AJL organized a very successful professional development panel for 
the AJS conference in Chicago.  In a roundtable format, several AJL members 
responded to prepared questions about our career choices and what our jobs 
entail.  Then we opened the floor to questions from the audience. What began as 
an opportunity to expose scholars of Jewish Studies to the possibility of 
considering a career in librarianship and as, in addition, doing a great deal 
to explain to our audience what it is that Judaica librarians do.  I would like 
to continue this new tradition, and, in the process, be sure to include Judaica 
librarians who work in a variety of different specific library jobs in our 
panel. Ideally, I would also like to include an archivist, and perhaps a museum 
professional. Panel members will need to join the AJS (there is a mildly 
discounted rate for AJL members!*) and to pay for and attend the annual 
conference in person, in Boston, December 18-20, 2022.

If you are planning to attend AJS 2022 and would be interested in participating 
in this librarianship-career development panel, please write 
me by Thursday, April 28.

All best,
Rachel

*To join AJS, go to the membership page (for joining as an 
individual) and enter this discount code: AJL2022AJS.


Rachel L. Greenblatt, Ph.D.
Judaica Librarian
Brandeis University
Voice mail: (781) 736-4688
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Schedule an 

Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Roger's Demographic Group Term tentative monthly list 03x (March 11, 2022)

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

We have SH Berit milah but no heading for Mohalim.
We have other headings for actions and also headings for practitioners.
150 Cantors (Judaism)

Rabbis
550 Judaism ǂx Functionaries

No Mohalim. Sometimes the book is not about Berit millah or its role in Jewish
law, but biography of Mohalim. I wonder why there is no heading for these 
people. We had to use Berit milah instead.

Marlene Schiffman
Metadata and Services Department
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

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LIBRARY OF CONGRESS DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP TERMS
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The proposed headings on this list are NOT YET APPROVED and not yet available 
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150
Cantors[dp2017060274]
(C)
072
occ

450
UF Chazanim

450
UF Chazzanim

450
UF Ḥazanim

450
UF Ḥazonim

450
UF Ḥazzanim

550
BT Singers





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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Minutes of 2021 summer mtg posted (was: RE: Save the date: RAS Cataloging Committee winter meeting)

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

Yes, I believe I attended this meeting.

Marlene Schiffman
Metadata and Services Department
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

Gottesman Library
Room 301
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Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 2:20 PM
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Subject: [EXT] - [Heb-NACO] Minutes of 2021 summer mtg posted (was: RE: Save 
the date: RAS Cataloging Committee winter meeting)

**External Email**
Hi, all, the minutes of our last meeting, held during annual conference this 
past summer, have been posted to the 
wiki. There will be a vote on approving the minutes in our upcoming meeting, so 
please take a moment to review.

Also, unfortunately, the recording was lost and there is no way to recreate the 
list of attendees. If you recall being present, would you kindly let me know so 
I can update the roster.

Thanks and kol tuv, Jasmin

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Subject: [Heb-NACO] Save the date: RAS Cataloging Committee winter meeting

Dear all,

Please save the date Feb 10, 11:30am-1pm EST (8:30 PST, 5:30pm CET, 6:30pm IST) 
for the RAS Cataloging Committee winter meeting, which will happen online. A 
link to the meeting and an agenda will be distributed shortly. In the meantime, 
if you have any items for the agenda, please let me know 
(neilf...@gmail.com).

Hope to see many of you there. Take good care!



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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Cataloging Form - inaugural roundtable

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

Hi Haim,
What is the purpose of the Cataloging Forum? Is there an agenda? Are we 
supposed to bring up topics/problems/concerns?
MRS

Marlene Schiffman
Metadata and Services Department
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

Gottesman Library
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Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 3:35 PM
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Subject: [EXT] - [Heb-NACO] Cataloging Form - inaugural roundtable

**External Email**
Dear Friends,

I want to let you all know that the first session for the Cataloging Forum has 
been set up.

Date: Thursday, August 12, 2021
Time: 12:30pm ET
Place: Zoom

To register:
 
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I look forward to seeing you all.

All my best,
Haim

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Haim A. Gottschalk, MAEd, MLS
Hebraica and Judaica Cataloging Librarian
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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Roger's Subject headings tentative monthly list 2107

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

151
Judaea, Wilderness of CHANGE HEADING
451
UF Judaea, Wilderness of [Former heading]

Please explain what is the difference here?

Marlene Schiffman
Metadata and Services Department
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

Gottesman Library
Room 301
646 592 4276

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Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 8:05 AM
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Jeremiah Aaron ; Creeger, Edith ; Shirazi, Gail 
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'heb-n...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu' 
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LIBRARY OF CONGRESS SUBJECT HEADINGS
TENTATIVE MONTHLY LIST 07 (July 16, 2021)

The proposed headings on this list are NOT YET APPROVED and not yet available 
for use in current cataloging.

Send all comments on this list to Janis Young, Policy, Training, and 
Cooperative Programs Division - Email: 
e...@loc.gov

"(A)" indicates pre-approved proposals for material in Priority 1. "(C)" 
indicates proposals submitted by libraries in the Subject Authority Cooperative 
Program (SACO).


150
Aleksandrow Hasidim[May Subd Geog][sp2020012296]

450
UF Aleksandrów Lódzki Hasidim

450
UF Aleksander Hasidim

450
UF Alexander Hasidim

450
UF Danziger Hasidim

550
BT Hasidim

550
RT Hasidism


151
Esdraelon, Plain of (Israel) CHANGE HEADING

151
Jezreel Valley (Israel)[sp 92005308 ]

451
UF ʻEmek Yizreʻel (Israel)

451
UF ʻEmeq Yizreʻel (Israel)

451
UF Emeq Ysreel (Israel)

451
UF Esdraelon, Great Plain of (Israel)

451
UF Esdraelon, Plain of (Israel) [Former heading]

451
UF Great Plain of Esdraelon (Israel)

451
UF Jezrael Valley (Israel)

451
UF Jezreel, Valley of (Israel)

451
UF Marj ibn ʻAmir (Israel)

451
UF Plain of Esdraelon (Israel)

451
UF Plain of Jezreel (Israel)

451
UF Valley of Jezreel (Israel)

451
UF Yizreʻel, ʻEmeḳ (Israel)

550
BT Plains--Israel

550
BT Valleys--Israel

781
Israel--Jezreel Valley


151
Judaea, Wilderness of CHANGE HEADING
(A)
151
Judean Desert[sp 85070834 ]

451
UF Barrīyat al Quds

451
UF Barrīyat al Yahūdīyah

451
UF Jeshimmon

451
UF Jeshimon

451
UF Judah, Wilderness of

451
UF Judaea, Wilderness of [Former heading]

451
UF Judaea, Wilderness of (Israel and Jordan) [Former heading]

451
UF Judea, Wilderness of

451
UF Midbar Yehuda

451
UF Midbar Yehudah

451
UF Wilderness of Judaea

451
UF Wilderness of Judah

451
UF Wilderness of Judea

451
UF Yeshimon

781
Judean Desert


150
Kinship (Jewish law)[May Subd Geog][sp2020006786]

550
BT Jewish law



150
Pshevorsk Hasidim[May Subd Geog][sp2021003639]

053
BM198.56.P74

450
UF Bet Psheṿorsḳ

450
UF Ḥasidut Psheṿorsḳ

550
BT Hasidim

150
Sufganiyot[Not Subd Geog][sp202648]

450
UF Espogim

450
UF Ponchiks

450
UF Ponṭshḳes

450
UF Sefganim

450
UF Sifganim

450
UF Sofganim

450
UF Sofganin

450
UF Sufganin

450
UF Sofganiyot

550
BT Doughnuts

550
RT Food--Religious aspects--Judaism











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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Re: 046 Hebrew date coding in NARs

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

I agree with Yossi. Yossi, You took the words right out of my mouth.

From: Heb-naco  on behalf of Galron, Joseph via 
Heb-naco 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 11:50:52 PM
To: Shinohara, Jasmin ; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 

Subject: [EXT] - Re: [Heb-NACO] 046 Hebrew date coding in NARs

**External Email**

I encountered this issue for my Lexicon as well for entering dates in Wikidata 
(and encyclopedic entries in the Hebrew Wikipedia).

My opinion is that we should put the later date and only in cases we know the 
two dates then to prefer the Hebrew date. Our life is complicated enough. We 
have a tool to convert Hebrew calendar to the Gregorian calendar and 
vis-a-versa 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.hebcal.com/converter__;!!KGKeukY!iFRm6eankEYTT6HeKl4BM93NTZcofWymcIwOSPgfDA01HgcEXK3MfUwzxP7c_dPOwgl5$
 


Is it really critical to know if someone was born in the evening before sunset 
or after sunset? (the only case for us will be if someone was born/died on 
December 31, 1969 or January 1, 1970 – this changes the heading in the 100 
field).

I have so many stories I encountered while doing my biographical research for 
“my authors” where the Hebrew date is totally different then the Gregorian date 
on tombstones, in encyclopedias (Tidhar for example), Lexicons (Kressel and 
others). I saw letters by people who wrote that their Zeide told them they were 
born on Erev Shabbes of Hanukka, of תר"ע  1910 (Erev Shabbes of Hanukka was 
December 1909 and not 1910)

Remember – we have a backlog of Sforim we need to catalog – not too much time 
to spend on the issue if someone was born or died before or after sunset.



At this opportunity I invite you to view my working document in which I record 
the biographical information

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IPXgRBQE689SB8GpXKHjmSIlNP50n7hAJQEHaoVt8U4/edit?usp=sharing__;!!KGKeukY!iFRm6eankEYTT6HeKl4BM93NTZcofWymcIwOSPgfDA01HgcEXK3MfUwzxP7c_XEhOZX1$
 




My two Groschen to the issue



Yossi





יוסי גלרון-גולדשלגר

טלפון נייד 1.614.805.9954

Йозеф Галрон Гольдшлегер

Joseph (Yossi) 
Galron-Goldschläger
Head, Hebraica & Jewish Studies 
Library
and German Language and Literature Librarian
305 G Thompson Memorial Library
The Ohio State University Libraries
1858 Neil Ave. Mall
Columbus, Ohio 43210 USA
Tel.: (614) 292-3362, Fax: (614)292-1918
Mobile: (614) 805-9954
E-Mail: galro...@osu.edu or 
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Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature:

Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - RAS Catalogers Winter Meeting - call for agenda items

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

Is this an appropriate agenda item?

New class number schedule for history of Judaism by region or country:
(BM201-449). The current schedule reflects some general geographic approach, 
which allocates some sparsely populated countries with little Jewish presence a 
full class number, while Hungary has just one cutter under "Other European 
countries".


Marlene Schiffman
Judaica Cataloger
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

Gottesman Library
Room 301
646 592 4276

From: Heb-naco  On Behalf Of Neil Manel 
Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:32 AM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 
Subject: [EXT] - [Heb-NACO] RAS Catalogers Winter Meeting - call for agenda 
items

**External Email**
Dear all,

I hope you are well and that you had a great Hanukkah. This is a quick reminder 
that we will hold our RAS Catalogers Winter Meeting on January 11, 
9:30am-11:30am EST. This is our first mid-year meeting experience, as usually 
we only meet at the annual AJL  conference in the Summer. As it happens in our 
annual meeting, only the committee members get to vote but all the Hebrew 
catalogers are invited to participate.

At this time, this is a call for agenda items. Please send any subjects you 
think we should discuss.

The members of the RAS Cataloging committee are really looking forward to this 
opportunity to talk and work together!

Kol tuv,



Neil and Jasmin, on behalf of the committee.

--

Neil M. Frau-Cortes, Ph.D. (he, him, his)

Assistant Head, Cataloging & Metadata Services

(Metadata Creation & Enhancement)



University of Maryland

2200 McKeldin Library

College Park, MD 20742

Phone (301) 405-9337

nf...@umd.edu

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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Re: Wikidata training

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

Will you be sending out a list of the RAS members and their terms?

Marlene Schiffman
Judaica Cataloger
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

Gottesman Library
Room 301
646 592 4276

From: Heb-naco  On Behalf Of Benamou, Sharon 
via Heb-naco
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 12:59 PM
To: Neil Manel Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco 
Subject: [EXT] - Re: [Heb-NACO] Wikidata training

**External Email**
Hi Neil,
I am interested. We have a project going at work but I would be happy to take 
part in an AJL project.

Sharon

Sharon Benamou
Hebraica/Judaica and Music Catalog Librarian
Email: bena...@library.ucla.edu
Phone: (310) 825-8642

From: Heb-naco 
mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>> on 
behalf of Nancy Sack via Heb-naco 
mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 5:01 PM
To: Neil Manel Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco 
mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Wikidata training

Hi, Neil,

I would be interested in the wikidata training. I no longer catalog Hebrew 
materials but I do quite a bit of special collections cataloging and I'm 
interested in learning more about identity management.
Thanks.

Nancy
U of Hawaii
On 9/10/2020 2:59 AM, Neil Manel Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco wrote:
Dear all,

Following our conversation at the AJL conference, I wanted to touch base 
regarding an initiative.

As you know UMD has just started several projects for Special Collections that 
use Wikidata as the authority management platform. In the last few months we 
have been training a small group of our catalogers, briefly reviewed their 
progress, and involved them in the projects. The projects are also part of the 
PCC WIkidata pilot program.

At this point there are a few more UMD people that have manifested interest in 
going through the same training, which is essentially a 90 minutes session 
taught by Sarah Hovde and myself. We are pondering expanding this to other 
institutions. I wanted to check with the Hebraica cataloger community and see 
if enough people would be interested either in joining our small UMD cohort or 
organizing a separate, Judaica specific group. Please share your thoughts on 
this.

A quick additional note regarding the RAS cataloging committee: we are closing 
down on membership. At this point we are still missing one member and we hope 
to ultimate details in a few weeks. Once everything is settled, we are 
considering having a Winter zoom meeting in addition to the annual. We'll keep 
you posted.

Looking forward to the New Year, which we hope to be much better!

Kol tuv, Shannah Tovah.

--

Neil M. Frau-Cortes, Ph.D. (he, him, his)

Senior Catalog Librarian

Supervisor for Non-Roman and Special Collections Cataloging



University of Maryland

2200 McKeldin Library

College Park, MD 20742

Phone (301) 405-9337

nf...@umd.edu

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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - Fwd: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviations)

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

We are using them only as transcribed from the resource.

Marlene Schiffman
Judaica Cataloger
Gottesman Library
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, N.Y. 10033

Gottesman Library
Room 301
646 592 4276

From: Heb-naco  On Behalf Of 
Neil Manel Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:11 AM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 
Subject: [EXT] - [Heb-NACO] Fwd: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish 
abbreviations)

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Dear all,

See below. What do you think about Ahava's question? My impression is that we 
are not replacing terms on a resource by abbreviations under RDA (certainly not 
at Maryland).

Thanks,


Neil
-- Forwarded message -
From: Ahava Cohen mailto:ahava.co...@nli.org.il>>
Date: Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:59 PM
Subject: RDA Toolkit appendix B.10 (Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviations)
To: a...@loc.gov mailto:a...@loc.gov>>, Neil 
Manel Frau-Cortes mailto:nf...@umd.edu>>

Shalom,

As the RDA Steering Committee finishes up work on 3R, they've been discussing 
the appendices in the current Toolkit. I've asked, and been granted permission, 
to have the largest Hebraica cataloging policy bodies (AJL, LC, and NLI) make a 
recommendation about the fate of the Hebrew and Yiddish abbreviation appendix.

The Latin script abbreviations are all for recorded elements. So the question 
about our appendix is:
Are the abbreviations specified used in recorded elements or do they belong to 
transcribed elements?

If we're talking recorded elements – things that you consistently change from 
what's on the resource (as we used to change edition statements to ed. or 
מהד'), the appendix needs to stay. If all the terms are found in transcribed 
elements, those we copy from the resource, then the list more properly belongs 
as a resource in the AJL documentation than as a mandate in the Toolkit. In 
Israel we don't use any of these terms in recorded elements.

Here's the list:

[cid:image001.png@01D665A1.72CA9F30]

Do you know of cataloging agencies which would replace the term used on a 
resource with the abbreviation when creating a record?

Kol tuv,


-  Ahava


[cid:image002.jpg@01D665A1.72CA9F30]

Dr. Ahava Cohen|Head
Hebrew Catalogue Department
Mobile: +972-54-549-3644
Tel.:  +972-74-733-6231
The National Library of Israel, Jerusalem
ahava.co...@nli.org.il  |  
www.nli.org.il
[cid:image003.png@01D665A1.72CA9F30]
  [cid:image004.png@01D665A1.72CA9F30] 

   [cid:image005.png@01D665A1.72CA9F30] 

   [cid:image006.png@01D665A1.72CA9F30] 





--

Neil M. Frau-Cortes, Ph.D. (he, him, his)

Senior Catalog Librarian

Supervisor for Non-Roman and Special Collections Cataloging



University of Maryland

2200 McKeldin Library

College Park, MD 20742

Phone (301) 405-9337

nf...@umd.edu

ORCID ID: 

Re: [Heb-NACO] בגלל

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

We have a title that uses this word: Zeʼev Z'aboṭinsḳi, ha-ish u-mishnato : \b 
(bi-melot meʼah shanah le-huladto)

Marlene Schiffman
Gottesman Library Technical Services
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, NY 10033

646 592-4276 (direct)
646 592-4100 (general office)

From: Heb-naco  On Behalf Of 
Abend-David,Ilana via Heb-naco
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:07 PM
To: Galron, Joseph ; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 

Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] בגלל

If so how would you transliterate במלאות 25 שנה  ? Would this be correct 
bi-melo'ut ?

From: Heb-naco 
mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>> On 
Behalf Of Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:52 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 
mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] בגלל

It is “dangerous” going to Biglal or Bishvil – tomorrow we will say: If it is 
Bishvil so why not change it to Shvil
We also Romanize בירושלים  to “Bi-Yerushalayim” and not to “Birushalayim”

Yossi



From: Heb-naco 
mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>> On 
Behalf Of Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:31 PM
To: Gottschalk, Haim mailto:h...@loc.gov>>; 'Hebrew Name 
Authority Funnel' mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] בגלל

Hi, Haim, bi-gelal would be correct if the ב is considered a prefix to the word 
גלל. But since there is a direct entry for the word as a whole, I’m asking if 
we should romanize it as a whole word instead of as a compound word.

Thanks, Jasmin

From: Gottschalk, Haim [mailto:h...@loc.gov]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 12:24 PM
To: Shinohara, Jasmin; 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel'
Subject: RE: בגלל

I think it should be “biglal” and not “bi-gelal” because of the sheva being 
treat as a sheva nach (which is how it is in the Alcalay).  This is in my 
humble opinion.

~Haim

From: Heb-naco 
mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>> On 
Behalf Of Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 11:00 AM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 
mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: [Heb-NACO] בגלל

Hello Collective Wisdom, please remind me: if there’s an entry in E-Sh., even 
if it ends with a “see also”, is that sufficient justification for romanizing 
the word as a word as opposed to a compound? E.g. בגלל has a direct entry, so 
I’d think it would be romanized biglal (NOT bigelal because as a whole word, 
the sheva would be considered merahef, ignored in romanization), but the entry 
also says “see גלל”. So which is it: Biglal or Bi-gelal?

Thanks, Jasmin


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Hebraica Cataloging Librarian
University of Pennsylvania
Van Pelt-Dietrich Library Center
3420 Walnut Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6206
T. 215-746-6397
jsh...@upenn.edu

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Re: [Heb-NACO] [EXT] - more on hybrid heb-eng records

[Marlene Schiffman via Heb-naco]

We at Yeshiva would be interested in learning how to merge reords.

Marlene Schiffman
Gottesman Library Technical Services
Yeshiva University
500 West 185th Street
New York, NY 10033

646 592-4276 (direct)
646 592-4100 (general office)

From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Neil Manel 
Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 9:27 AM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: [EXT] - [Heb-NACO] more on hybrid heb-eng records

**External Email**
Sorry to insist on the issue of the hybrid heb-eng records. This morning I am 
finding a bunch. Please compare 1084834299, 1091955519 and 1091823640. 
According to the merge rules we will not be allowed to merge the two first (by 
definition, the 3rd one is to be left alone).

Neil

--

Neil M. Frau-Cortes, Ph.D. (he, him, his)

Judaica, Hebraica and Metadata Cataloger



University of Maryland

4109 McKeldin Library

College Park, MD 20742

Phone (301) 405-9337

nf...@umd.edu

ORCID ID: 
https://orcid.org/-0002-1881-1405


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