How to investigate Backlog too deep? (follow-up)

2009-12-29 Thread Tim
There was a thread a few months ago regarding backlog too deep that
seems to be closed now:

http://groups.google.com/group/heroku/search?group=herokuq=backlog+too+deep++qt_g=Search+this+group

I had the same issue this morning.  My small Heroku-hosted app went
down showing the backlog too deep error.  However, checking Google
Analytics and New Relic I can't find anything that would point to
increased traffic (only ~25 visits/day) or a problem with the app
(performance indicators all seem to be within the New Relic default
margins).

Is there anywhere else I should check?  Rebooting the app brought the
site back up, but I'd like to investigate and find out what caused
this, if possible.

Thanks,
Tim

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Re: How to investigate Backlog too deep? (follow-up)

2009-12-29 Thread Trevor Turk
On Dec 29, 9:48 am, Casper Fabricius casper.fabric...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I am in the same boat as Tim. Despite very low traffic and two active dynos, 
 my site tends to go down with a permanent Backlog too deep and no other 
 resolution than rebooting the app. It is very frustrating to have the app go 
 down like this from time to other, with no logs and no way to debug it.

 I have no long running processes in the dynos - everything like that goes to 
 Delayed Job, even sending out emails.

I've noticed this problem as well with a few of my applications. The
sites will go down and the only way to get them started again is to
commit something meaningless and re-push the application. Honestly, I
expected to hear something from Heroku about this by now.

Is this a known issue? Is there anything we can do to provide help in
solving the problem? Next time an application of mine fails with this
message, I'll create a support ticket and try to help troubleshoot.

Thanks,
- Trevor

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Re: How to investigate Backlog too deep? (follow-up)

2009-12-29 Thread Matt Buck
To contribute to this discussion, I myself found my low-traffic app
experiencing seemingly inexplicable backlog too deep errors late last
week, but I didn't notice any accompanying error reports on
status.heroku.com.  A quick 'heroku restart' fixed it.  Can an overly-large
slug size contribute to this problem?

- Matt Buck

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Casper Fabricius 
casper.fabric...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am in the same boat as Tim. Despite very low traffic and two active
 dynos, my site tends to go down with a permanent Backlog too deep and no
 other resolution than rebooting the app. It is very frustrating to have the
 app go down like this from time to other, with no logs and no way to debug
 it.

 I have no long running processes in the dynos - everything like that goes
 to Delayed Job, even sending out emails.

 Cheers,
 Casper Fabricius

 On 27/12/2009, at 19.45, Tim wrote:

  There was a thread a few months ago regarding backlog too deep that
  seems to be closed now:
 
 
 http://groups.google.com/group/heroku/search?group=herokuq=backlog+too+deep++qt_g=Search+this+group
 
  I had the same issue this morning.  My small Heroku-hosted app went
  down showing the backlog too deep error.  However, checking Google
  Analytics and New Relic I can't find anything that would point to
  increased traffic (only ~25 visits/day) or a problem with the app
  (performance indicators all seem to be within the New Relic default
  margins).
 
  Is there anywhere else I should check?  Rebooting the app brought the
  site back up, but I'd like to investigate and find out what caused
  this, if possible.
 
  Thanks,
  Tim
 
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Re: How to investigate Backlog too deep? (follow-up)

2009-12-29 Thread Oren Teich
Hi guys,
yes, this is a (now) known issue - during the slug spin up process we have
found an edge case that isn't so edge, causing this error.  We have
hot-patched the servers to fix the bug, and are working on implementing a
cleaned up code path.  No apps should be experiencing this, and we hope to
have prevented it from happening on the future as well.

Sorry for the lack of updates - while the technical team has had full
coverage over the holidays and has been working on this, we haven't dont a
great job giving you guys updates.

Service stability hasn't been meeting our targets the past two months.
 We've found a lot of areas that we've improved, and this looks to be one of
the last outstanding major fixes.  I'm working on a summary of the work
we've done for you guys so you can know what the status is, and what we've
done to make sure we just get better in the future.

Oren

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Trevor Turk trevort...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Dec 29, 9:48 am, Casper Fabricius casper.fabric...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I am in the same boat as Tim. Despite very low traffic and two active
 dynos, my site tends to go down with a permanent Backlog too deep and no
 other resolution than rebooting the app. It is very frustrating to have the
 app go down like this from time to other, with no logs and no way to debug
 it.
 
  I have no long running processes in the dynos - everything like that goes
 to Delayed Job, even sending out emails.

 I've noticed this problem as well with a few of my applications. The
 sites will go down and the only way to get them started again is to
 commit something meaningless and re-push the application. Honestly, I
 expected to hear something from Heroku about this by now.

 Is this a known issue? Is there anything we can do to provide help in
 solving the problem? Next time an application of mine fails with this
 message, I'll create a support ticket and try to help troubleshoot.

 Thanks,
 - Trevor

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Re: How to investigate Backlog too deep? (follow-up)

2009-12-29 Thread Carl Fyffe
This mailing list is one of the reasons Heroku is so awesome. The fact
that Heroku participates and listens to this list just makes the
Heroku service that much better. Thank you to the Heroku team and this
community. Happy Holidays!

Carl

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Oren Teich o...@heroku.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 yes, this is a (now) known issue - during the slug spin up process we have
 found an edge case that isn't so edge, causing this error.  We have
 hot-patched the servers to fix the bug, and are working on implementing a
 cleaned up code path.  No apps should be experiencing this, and we hope to
 have prevented it from happening on the future as well.
 Sorry for the lack of updates - while the technical team has had full
 coverage over the holidays and has been working on this, we haven't dont a
 great job giving you guys updates.
 Service stability hasn't been meeting our targets the past two months.
  We've found a lot of areas that we've improved, and this looks to be one of
 the last outstanding major fixes.  I'm working on a summary of the work
 we've done for you guys so you can know what the status is, and what we've
 done to make sure we just get better in the future.
 Oren
 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Trevor Turk trevort...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Dec 29, 9:48 am, Casper Fabricius casper.fabric...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I am in the same boat as Tim. Despite very low traffic and two active
  dynos, my site tends to go down with a permanent Backlog too deep and no
  other resolution than rebooting the app. It is very frustrating to have the
  app go down like this from time to other, with no logs and no way to debug
  it.
 
  I have no long running processes in the dynos - everything like that
  goes to Delayed Job, even sending out emails.

 I've noticed this problem as well with a few of my applications. The
 sites will go down and the only way to get them started again is to
 commit something meaningless and re-push the application. Honestly, I
 expected to hear something from Heroku about this by now.

 Is this a known issue? Is there anything we can do to provide help in
 solving the problem? Next time an application of mine fails with this
 message, I'll create a support ticket and try to help troubleshoot.

 Thanks,
 - Trevor

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