Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: You're on the Stride waitlist!

[Steve Ebersole]

I can understand that.

There is a room in our HipChat that we allow anonymous/guest access, no
need for an account.  The only thing you lose is the ability to see
history.  But I think that's a reasonable expectation.  Have you tried that
approach?  http://hibernate.hipchat.com/chat/room/3369275

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 1:25 PM Robert Marcano 
wrote:

> On 10/26/2017 12:03 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> > Why would we?  What's the benefit over what we have?
> >
> >
>
> As someone that jumps from forums to forums when need to discuss bugs
> outside bug reports systems, the lack of anonymous access to HipChat
> discouraged me multiple times to join. Not because anonymity was
> important, just tired of creating accounts for a few days usage in
> another service. Just my 2 cents.
>
> There are other advantages but are more "political" than practical (OSS,
> federated, etc).
>
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:52 AM Robert Marcano
> > > wrote:
> >
> > On 10/26/2017 09:22 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
> >  > Thanks, I had the same on my TODO list. Are you going to convert
> the
> >  > HipChat team?
> >
> > Just out of curiosity from someone that has just 2 weeks subscribed
> to
> > this mailing list. Why not try Riot/Matrix http://riot.im/ ?
> >
> >  >
> >  > That way we *could* all try it out, on the other hand since we
> > have no
> >  > choice we don't really need to evaluate it :D
> >  >
> >  > On 24 October 2017 at 19:34, Steve Ebersole  > > wrote:
> >  >> I've signed up for a "test drive" account on Atlassian's Stride
> > server.
> >  >> Stride is their replacement for HipChat.
> >  >>
> >  >> -- Forwarded message -
> >  >> From: Stride by Atlassian >
> >  >> Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 1:32 PM
> >  >> Subject: You're on the Stride waitlist!
> >  >> To: >
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >> [image: Stride by Atlassian]
> >  >>
> >  >> Nice! You're on the list!
> >  >> [image: Stride waitlist]
> >  >> Thanks for your interest in Stride!
> >  >> What is Stride?
> >  >> Stride is a complete communication solution that empowers teams
> > to talk
> >  >> less and do more. Stride provides teams with group messaging,
> video
> >  >> meetings & built-in collaboration tools. We are rolling Stride
> > out during
> >  >> our Early Access Program and very excited for you and your team
> > to try it!
> >  >> When will I get on Stride?
> >  >> When it's your turn, we'll reach out again to get your team
> > started. You'll
> >  >> be able to create a new team or upgrade an existing HipChat
> > team. Get
> >  >> answers to most of your questions on our FAQs
> >  >>
> > <
> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/STRIDE/Stride+documentation?_source=prefinery_medium=email_campaign=waitlist-confirmation
> >
> >  >> .
> >  >> Thanks for your support! We can't wait to see your team hit its
> > stride.
> >  >> Cheers,
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: You're on the Stride waitlist!

[Robert Marcano]

On 10/26/2017 12:03 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote:
> Why would we?  What's the benefit over what we have?
> 
> 

As someone that jumps from forums to forums when need to discuss bugs 
outside bug reports systems, the lack of anonymous access to HipChat 
discouraged me multiple times to join. Not because anonymity was 
important, just tired of creating accounts for a few days usage in 
another service. Just my 2 cents.

There are other advantages but are more "political" than practical (OSS, 
federated, etc).

> 
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:52 AM Robert Marcano 
> > wrote:
> 
> On 10/26/2017 09:22 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>  > Thanks, I had the same on my TODO list. Are you going to convert the
>  > HipChat team?
> 
> Just out of curiosity from someone that has just 2 weeks subscribed to
> this mailing list. Why not try Riot/Matrix http://riot.im/ ?
> 
>  >
>  > That way we *could* all try it out, on the other hand since we
> have no
>  > choice we don't really need to evaluate it :D
>  >
>  > On 24 October 2017 at 19:34, Steve Ebersole  > wrote:
>  >> I've signed up for a "test drive" account on Atlassian's Stride
> server.
>  >> Stride is their replacement for HipChat.
>  >>
>  >> -- Forwarded message -
>  >> From: Stride by Atlassian >
>  >> Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 1:32 PM
>  >> Subject: You're on the Stride waitlist!
>  >> To: >
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> [image: Stride by Atlassian]
>  >>
>  >> Nice! You're on the list!
>  >> [image: Stride waitlist]
>  >> Thanks for your interest in Stride!
>  >> What is Stride?
>  >> Stride is a complete communication solution that empowers teams
> to talk
>  >> less and do more. Stride provides teams with group messaging, video
>  >> meetings & built-in collaboration tools. We are rolling Stride
> out during
>  >> our Early Access Program and very excited for you and your team
> to try it!
>  >> When will I get on Stride?
>  >> When it's your turn, we'll reach out again to get your team
> started. You'll
>  >> be able to create a new team or upgrade an existing HipChat
> team. Get
>  >> answers to most of your questions on our FAQs
>  >>
> 
> 
>  >> .
>  >> Thanks for your support! We can't wait to see your team hit its
> stride.
>  >> Cheers,
>  >> The Stride Team
>  >>
>  >> Copyright 2017 Atlassian Pty Ltd. All rights reserved. We are
> located at 341
>  >> George Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia
>  >>
> 
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: You're on the Stride waitlist!

[Sanne Grinovero]

On 26 October 2017 at 15:40, Robert Marcano  wrote:
> On 10/26/2017 09:22 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
>> Thanks, I had the same on my TODO list. Are you going to convert the
>> HipChat team?
>
> Just out of curiosity from someone that has just 2 weeks subscribed to
> this mailing list. Why not try Riot/Matrix http://riot.im/ ?

Hi Robert, welcome!

The main reason is we never heard of that until today :)
But also that we've already been using HipChat and quite like its
focus on developers; not surprising since we're also fans of JIRA.

So Atlassian is "upgrading" all HipChat users to Stride and we'll just
hope it wil be great. If it will be a disaster we'll keep Riot on the
list of alternative candidates.. thanks for the suggestion.

Sanne

>>
>> That way we *could* all try it out, on the other hand since we have no
>> choice we don't really need to evaluate it :D
>>
>> On 24 October 2017 at 19:34, Steve Ebersole  wrote:
>>> I've signed up for a "test drive" account on Atlassian's Stride server.
>>> Stride is their replacement for HipChat.
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: Stride by Atlassian 
>>> Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 1:32 PM
>>> Subject: You're on the Stride waitlist!
>>> To: 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Stride by Atlassian]
>>>
>>> Nice! You're on the list!
>>> [image: Stride waitlist]
>>> Thanks for your interest in Stride!
>>> What is Stride?
>>> Stride is a complete communication solution that empowers teams to talk
>>> less and do more. Stride provides teams with group messaging, video
>>> meetings & built-in collaboration tools. We are rolling Stride out during
>>> our Early Access Program and very excited for you and your team to try it!
>>> When will I get on Stride?
>>> When it's your turn, we'll reach out again to get your team started. You'll
>>> be able to create a new team or upgrade an existing HipChat team. Get
>>> answers to most of your questions on our FAQs
>>> 
>>> .
>>> Thanks for your support! We can't wait to see your team hit its stride.
>>> Cheers,
>>> The Stride Team
>>>
>>> Copyright 2017 Atlassian Pty Ltd. All rights reserved. We are located at 341
>>> George Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: You're on the Stride waitlist!

[Steve Ebersole]

Why would we?  What's the benefit over what we have?



On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:52 AM Robert Marcano 
wrote:

> On 10/26/2017 09:22 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
> > Thanks, I had the same on my TODO list. Are you going to convert the
> > HipChat team?
>
> Just out of curiosity from someone that has just 2 weeks subscribed to
> this mailing list. Why not try Riot/Matrix http://riot.im/ ?
>
> >
> > That way we *could* all try it out, on the other hand since we have no
> > choice we don't really need to evaluate it :D
> >
> > On 24 October 2017 at 19:34, Steve Ebersole  wrote:
> >> I've signed up for a "test drive" account on Atlassian's Stride server.
> >> Stride is their replacement for HipChat.
> >>
> >> -- Forwarded message -
> >> From: Stride by Atlassian 
> >> Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 1:32 PM
> >> Subject: You're on the Stride waitlist!
> >> To: 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [image: Stride by Atlassian]
> >>
> >> Nice! You're on the list!
> >> [image: Stride waitlist]
> >> Thanks for your interest in Stride!
> >> What is Stride?
> >> Stride is a complete communication solution that empowers teams to talk
> >> less and do more. Stride provides teams with group messaging, video
> >> meetings & built-in collaboration tools. We are rolling Stride out
> during
> >> our Early Access Program and very excited for you and your team to try
> it!
> >> When will I get on Stride?
> >> When it's your turn, we'll reach out again to get your team started.
> You'll
> >> be able to create a new team or upgrade an existing HipChat team. Get
> >> answers to most of your questions on our FAQs
> >> <
> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/STRIDE/Stride+documentation?_source=prefinery_medium=email_campaign=waitlist-confirmation
> >
> >> .
> >> Thanks for your support! We can't wait to see your team hit its stride.
> >> Cheers,
> >> The Stride Team
> >>
> >> Copyright 2017 Atlassian Pty Ltd. All rights reserved. We are located
> at 341
> >> George Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia
> >> <
> https://maps.google.com/?q=341+George+Street,+Sydney,+NSW,+2000,+Australia=gmail=g
> >
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: You're on the Stride waitlist!

[Steve Ebersole]

Again, for the EAP no.

For the real migration (~6 months) yes

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 9:54 AM Sanne Grinovero  wrote:

> On 26 October 2017 at 15:52, Gunnar Morling  wrote:
> > Does anyone know whether our chat histories will be transferred?
>
> Their FAQ states they will stransfer everything, so I'm crossing fingers..
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: You're on the Stride waitlist!

[Gunnar Morling]

Does anyone know whether our chat histories will be transferred?

I remember we got upgraded to some pro plan on HipChat at some point,
allowing for unlimited history access (unlike with the basis plan). Will we
have the same on Stride?

2017-10-26 15:45 GMT+02:00 Steve Ebersole :

> Right, ultimately we won't have a choice.. they will simply be moving all
> HipChat cloud instances to Stride Cloud.
>
> I signed up for the EAP so that we can get involved in providing any
> feedback we deem important prior to that launch.  After we are moved off
> waitlist ofc.
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:23 AM Sanne Grinovero 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, I had the same on my TODO list. Are you going to convert the
> > HipChat team?
> >
> > That way we *could* all try it out, on the other hand since we have no
> > choice we don't really need to evaluate it :D
> >
> > On 24 October 2017 at 19:34, Steve Ebersole  wrote:
> > > I've signed up for a "test drive" account on Atlassian's Stride server.
> > > Stride is their replacement for HipChat.
> > >
> > > -- Forwarded message -
> > > From: Stride by Atlassian 
> > > Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 1:32 PM
> > > Subject: You're on the Stride waitlist!
> > > To: 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [image: Stride by Atlassian]
> > >
> > > Nice! You're on the list!
> > > [image: Stride waitlist]
> > > Thanks for your interest in Stride!
> > > What is Stride?
> > > Stride is a complete communication solution that empowers teams to talk
> > > less and do more. Stride provides teams with group messaging, video
> > > meetings & built-in collaboration tools. We are rolling Stride out
> during
> > > our Early Access Program and very excited for you and your team to try
> > it!
> > > When will I get on Stride?
> > > When it's your turn, we'll reach out again to get your team started.
> > You'll
> > > be able to create a new team or upgrade an existing HipChat team. Get
> > > answers to most of your questions on our FAQs
> > > <
> > https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/STRIDE/Stride+
> documentation?_source=prefinery_medium=email&
> utm_campaign=waitlist-confirmation
> > >
> > > .
> > > Thanks for your support! We can't wait to see your team hit its stride.
> > > Cheers,
> > > The Stride Team
> > >
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: You're on the Stride waitlist!

[Sanne Grinovero]

On 26 October 2017 at 15:52, Gunnar Morling  wrote:
> Does anyone know whether our chat histories will be transferred?

Their FAQ states they will stransfer everything, so I'm crossing fingers..
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: You're on the Stride waitlist!

[Robert Marcano]

On 10/26/2017 09:22 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
> Thanks, I had the same on my TODO list. Are you going to convert the
> HipChat team?

Just out of curiosity from someone that has just 2 weeks subscribed to 
this mailing list. Why not try Riot/Matrix http://riot.im/ ?

> 
> That way we *could* all try it out, on the other hand since we have no
> choice we don't really need to evaluate it :D
> 
> On 24 October 2017 at 19:34, Steve Ebersole  wrote:
>> I've signed up for a "test drive" account on Atlassian's Stride server.
>> Stride is their replacement for HipChat.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Stride by Atlassian 
>> Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 1:32 PM
>> Subject: You're on the Stride waitlist!
>> To: 
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: Stride by Atlassian]
>>
>> Nice! You're on the list!
>> [image: Stride waitlist]
>> Thanks for your interest in Stride!
>> What is Stride?
>> Stride is a complete communication solution that empowers teams to talk
>> less and do more. Stride provides teams with group messaging, video
>> meetings & built-in collaboration tools. We are rolling Stride out during
>> our Early Access Program and very excited for you and your team to try it!
>> When will I get on Stride?
>> When it's your turn, we'll reach out again to get your team started. You'll
>> be able to create a new team or upgrade an existing HipChat team. Get
>> answers to most of your questions on our FAQs
>> 
>> .
>> Thanks for your support! We can't wait to see your team hit its stride.
>> Cheers,
>> The Stride Team
>>
>> Copyright 2017 Atlassian Pty Ltd. All rights reserved. We are located at 341
>> George Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia
>> 
>>
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: You're on the Stride waitlist!

[Steve Ebersole]

The wait list here specifically is for access to an EAP instance that is
essentially a sandbox.  It will not import our existing messages, etc.  It
will be an empty instance we can play with.  I am not sure how teams work
there, but the email I got implies that we ought to be able to somehow
replicate the team there.  But again, nothing here is permanent.

This is in contrast to the "wait list" we are all on where Atlassian will
begin migrating HipChat Cloud teams over to Stride.  That *will* migrate
our history, teams, etc.  The email said that will happen within the next 6
months.

HTH

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:56 AM Sanne Grinovero  wrote:

> On 26 October 2017 at 14:45, Steve Ebersole  wrote:
> > Right, ultimately we won't have a choice.. they will simply be moving all
> > HipChat cloud instances to Stride Cloud.
> >
> > I signed up for the EAP so that we can get involved in providing any
> > feedback we deem important prior to that launch.  After we are moved off
> > waitlist ofc.
>
> Ah, I missed we were still on some wait list. I assume when it's our
> turn you'll convert the group so we can all have some fun with it?
>
> Thanks
>
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:23 AM Sanne Grinovero 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks, I had the same on my TODO list. Are you going to convert the
> >> HipChat team?
> >>
> >> That way we *could* all try it out, on the other hand since we have no
> >> choice we don't really need to evaluate it :D
> >>
> >> On 24 October 2017 at 19:34, Steve Ebersole 
> wrote:
> >> > I've signed up for a "test drive" account on Atlassian's Stride
> server.
> >> > Stride is their replacement for HipChat.
> >> >
> >> > -- Forwarded message -
> >> > From: Stride by Atlassian 
> >> > Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 1:32 PM
> >> > Subject: You're on the Stride waitlist!
> >> > To: 
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [image: Stride by Atlassian]
> >> >
> >> > Nice! You're on the list!
> >> > [image: Stride waitlist]
> >> > Thanks for your interest in Stride!
> >> > What is Stride?
> >> > Stride is a complete communication solution that empowers teams to
> talk
> >> > less and do more. Stride provides teams with group messaging, video
> >> > meetings & built-in collaboration tools. We are rolling Stride out
> >> > during
> >> > our Early Access Program and very excited for you and your team to try
> >> > it!
> >> > When will I get on Stride?
> >> > When it's your turn, we'll reach out again to get your team started.
> >> > You'll
> >> > be able to create a new team or upgrade an existing HipChat team. Get
> >> > answers to most of your questions on our FAQs
> >> >
> >> > <
> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/STRIDE/Stride+documentation?_source=prefinery_medium=email_campaign=waitlist-confirmation
> >
> >> > .
> >> > Thanks for your support! We can't wait to see you
> r
> team hit its stride.
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > The Stride Team
> >> >
> >> > Copyright 2017 Atlassian Pty Ltd. All rights reserved. We are located
> at
> >> > 341
> >> > George Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia
> >> >
> >> > <
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> >
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: You're on the Stride waitlist!

[Sanne Grinovero]

On 26 October 2017 at 14:45, Steve Ebersole  wrote:
> Right, ultimately we won't have a choice.. they will simply be moving all
> HipChat cloud instances to Stride Cloud.
>
> I signed up for the EAP so that we can get involved in providing any
> feedback we deem important prior to that launch.  After we are moved off
> waitlist ofc.

Ah, I missed we were still on some wait list. I assume when it's our
turn you'll convert the group so we can all have some fun with it?

Thanks

>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:23 AM Sanne Grinovero  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, I had the same on my TODO list. Are you going to convert the
>> HipChat team?
>>
>> That way we *could* all try it out, on the other hand since we have no
>> choice we don't really need to evaluate it :D
>>
>> On 24 October 2017 at 19:34, Steve Ebersole  wrote:
>> > I've signed up for a "test drive" account on Atlassian's Stride server.
>> > Stride is their replacement for HipChat.
>> >
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>> > Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 1:32 PM
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>> > Nice! You're on the list!
>> > [image: Stride waitlist]
>> > Thanks for your interest in Stride!
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: You're on the Stride waitlist!

[Steve Ebersole]

Right, ultimately we won't have a choice.. they will simply be moving all
HipChat cloud instances to Stride Cloud.

I signed up for the EAP so that we can get involved in providing any
feedback we deem important prior to that launch.  After we are moved off
waitlist ofc.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:23 AM Sanne Grinovero  wrote:

> Thanks, I had the same on my TODO list. Are you going to convert the
> HipChat team?
>
> That way we *could* all try it out, on the other hand since we have no
> choice we don't really need to evaluate it :D
>
> On 24 October 2017 at 19:34, Steve Ebersole  wrote:
> > I've signed up for a "test drive" account on Atlassian's Stride server.
> > Stride is their replacement for HipChat.
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Stride by Atlassian 
> > Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 1:32 PM
> > Subject: You're on the Stride waitlist!
> > To: 
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: Stride by Atlassian]
> >
> > Nice! You're on the list!
> > [image: Stride waitlist]
> > Thanks for your interest in Stride!
> > What is Stride?
> > Stride is a complete communication solution that empowers teams to talk
> > less and do more. Stride provides teams with group messaging, video
> > meetings & built-in collaboration tools. We are rolling Stride out during
> > our Early Access Program and very excited for you and your team to try
> it!
> > When will I get on Stride?
> > When it's your turn, we'll reach out again to get your team started.
> You'll
> > be able to create a new team or upgrade an existing HipChat team. Get
> > answers to most of your questions on our FAQs
> > <
> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/STRIDE/Stride+documentation?_source=prefinery_medium=email_campaign=waitlist-confirmation
> >
> > .
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> > Cheers,
> > The Stride Team
> >
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> 
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Fwd: You're on the Stride waitlist!

[Sanne Grinovero]

Thanks, I had the same on my TODO list. Are you going to convert the
HipChat team?

That way we *could* all try it out, on the other hand since we have no
choice we don't really need to evaluate it :D

On 24 October 2017 at 19:34, Steve Ebersole  wrote:
> I've signed up for a "test drive" account on Atlassian's Stride server.
> Stride is their replacement for HipChat.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Stride by Atlassian 
> Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 1:32 PM
> Subject: You're on the Stride waitlist!
> To: 
>
>
>
> [image: Stride by Atlassian]
>
> Nice! You're on the list!
> [image: Stride waitlist]
> Thanks for your interest in Stride!
> What is Stride?
> Stride is a complete communication solution that empowers teams to talk
> less and do more. Stride provides teams with group messaging, video
> meetings & built-in collaboration tools. We are rolling Stride out during
> our Early Access Program and very excited for you and your team to try it!
> When will I get on Stride?
> When it's your turn, we'll reach out again to get your team started. You'll
> be able to create a new team or upgrade an existing HipChat team. Get
> answers to most of your questions on our FAQs
> 
> .
> Thanks for your support! We can't wait to see your team hit its stride.
> Cheers,
> The Stride Team
>
> Copyright 2017 Atlassian Pty Ltd. All rights reserved. We are located at 341
> George Street, Sydney, NSW, 2000, Australia
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[hibernate-dev] Bugfix releases for Hibernate Search 5.6, 5.7 and 5.8

[Yoann Rodiere]

Hi all,

We just published three bugfix releases of Hibernate Search: 5.6.4.Final
and 5.7.3.Final and 5.8.2.Final.

Please see the blog for more details: http://in.relation.
to/2017/10/26/hibernate-search-5-6-4-and-5-7-3-and-5-8-2/

Thanks,

Yoann Rodière
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Re: [hibernate-dev] SynchronizationRegistry: expose read (lookup) operations?

[Radim Vansa]

On 10/26/2017 01:23 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote:
> On 25 October 2017 at 17:13, Jonathan Halliday
>  wrote:
>> so you have some form of implicit cleanup that de-registers Synchronizations
>> when the transaction finishes, or do they stay registered and re-fire for
>> each tx on the connection?
>>
>> As to the multiple registration semantics, IIRC the arjuna code allows the
>> same Synchronization to be registered multiple times and in such case it
>> will be called multiple times too. No reason you need to follow that model
>> unless you're delegating to the tx engine though. If you go for 'we always
>> generate the key for you', then calling
>>
>> String id = sr.register(sync)
>>
>> twice could just give you back the same id. Downside is you need to store
>> that id someplace, which misses the point of allowing a fixed constant as
>> the key. I'm rather assuming that's the requirement here, since if you're
>> needing to keep and pass around a uniq key then you may as well just pass
>> around the sync object itself?
> I agree, that's what I'd want to avoid - at least in the Hibernate Search 
> case.
>
>> Anyhow, is a key of any form necessary for
>> that use case? Could retrieval just be
>>
>> sr.getSynchronizationsOfType(thing.class)
>>
>> to match on class/interface, which should be all that's needed to find e.g.
>> the cache/search/whatever synchronization.  Not having a key means saves
>> having to define how it behaves. Lookup maybe slower if you're going to
>> support polymorphism though, but the number of Synchronizations per tx
>> should be small.
> That would work for me, and I wouldn't need polymorphism. Exact class
> will do just fine.
>
> So this approach might allow to keep the registration API as-is, but
> if we allow to register
> multiple instances of the same class the retrieval would return a
> random instance.
>
> That's not a problem for my use case and could be addressed with javadoc,
> probably a nice compromise.
> Incidentally maps keyed by Class are very efficient so that's nice too.
>
> Would it suffice for you too Radim? Since noone else ever asked for
> such a feature I think the two of us represent the users population :)

My case was already solved by the CacheTransactionContext, and it seems 
more convenient than doing any lookups. But for general use I find 
by-class lookup more appealing than registering with a custom key. The 
registrar can always use some private class; it's not like unrelated 
components would do lookup of others' synchronizations.

Radim

>
> Thanks,
> Sanne
>
>
>> Jonathan.
>>
>> On 25/10/17 16:39, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>>> The SynchronizationRegistry is kept per-LogicalConncection which might
>>> span multiple physical transactions.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:37 AM Jonathan Halliday
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  right, a lot of JTA works on the 'tx bound to thread' approach and
>>> it's
>>>  a right pain in async I/O thread pooled environments like vert.x
>>> That's
>>>  one of the reasons why sticking a get/put api on the Transaction
>>>  instance abstraction instead may make more sense, though I'm guessing
>>>  your SynchronizationRegistry is instance per tx rather than a
>>> singleton
>>>  like the JTA one is, so it may not make much difference which object
>>>  carries the functionality for your case?
>>>
>>>  Jonathan.
>>>
>>>  On 25/10/17 16:25, Steve Ebersole wrote:
>>>   > Also, unless I am mistaken `TransactionSynchronizationRegistry#put`
>>>   > works on the principle that the "current transaction" is
>>>  associated with
>>>   > the current thread.  I absolutely want to stay away from that as an
>>>   > assumption here.  It simply does not hold true in the JDBC txn
>>> case.
>>>   >
>>>   > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:24 AM Steve Ebersole
>>>  
>>>   > >> wrote:
>>>   >
>>>   > Jonathan, we aren't going to be exposing this or using this
>>>   > via TransactionSynchronizationRegistry.  Your comment about a
>>>   > "dummy" in the JDBC txn case is exactly why.  We already have
>>>  such
>>>   > an abstraction : SynchronizationRegistry
>>>   >
>>>   > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:22 AM Steve Ebersole
>>>  
>>>   > >>
>>> wrote:
>>>   >
>>>   > Yes that would work for me, but thinking about the
>>>   > implementation it
>>>   > implies you'd need to hold on to both a Set and a
>>>  Map, and
>>>   > then we'd
>>>   > be exposed to silly usage like people adding the same
>>>   > synchronization
>>>   >