Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC
Interesting. I think I may have found a big culprit. It seems that Fedora likes to enable IPv6 on connections by default. I disabled IPv6 support and some unrelated browsing problems I have been having were cleared up. I'll have to see if that helps with IRC. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Thomas Jones-Low thomas.jones-...@foundationdb.com wrote: Found this link on Hacker News: https://www.nccgroup.com/en/blog/2014/10/analysis-of-the-linux-backdoor-used-in-freenode-irc-network-compromise/ Apparently they were hacked pretty badly. On 10/13/14, 7:04 PM, Scott Marlow wrote: I don't see how it could be related but a few weeks ago freenode recommended that everyone change their passwords. On 10/13/2014 02:48 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: just a heads up that I have not been able to connect to freenode for quite a few weeks now. Still no idea what is up there. ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC
Found this link on Hacker News: https://www.nccgroup.com/en/blog/2014/10/analysis-of-the-linux-backdoor-used-in-freenode-irc-network-compromise/ Apparently they were hacked pretty badly. On 10/13/14, 7:04 PM, Scott Marlow wrote: I don't see how it could be related but a few weeks ago freenode recommended that everyone change their passwords. On 10/13/2014 02:48 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: just a heads up that I have not been able to connect to freenode for quite a few weeks now. Still no idea what is up there. ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 7/29
Mainly discussed the ongoing JdbcSession work. [10:44] jbott Meeting ended Tue Jul 29 15:44:14 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [10:44] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-07-29-15.07.html [10:44] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-07-29-15.07.txt [10:44] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-07-29-15.07.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 7/8
Mostly more design discussion of JdbcSession [10:49] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-07-08-14.42.html [10:49] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-07-08-14.42.txt [10:49] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-07-08-14.42.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting
Discussed EntityEntry/EntityKey memory enhancements and continued JdbcSession design discussion... [11:37] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-07-01-14.41.html [11:37] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-07-01-14.41.txt [11:37] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-07-01-14.41.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 6/17
Not much discussed today... [10:10] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-06-17-14.43.html [10:10] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-06-17-14.43.txt [10:10] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-06-17-14.43.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 6/10
And the NoORM meeting which happened just before: essentially we discussed the need to review roadmaps and priorities; some output from the Infinispan Query meeting, the need for Hibernate OGM to depend on patches in Hibernate ORM which have yet to be developed. Davide mentioned Neo4J artifacts are now downloadable from the JBoss repository mirrors, and Emmanuel is exploring some simplifications for NoSQL users on WildFly. Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-06-10-13.41.html Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-06-10-13.41.txt Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-06-10-13.41.log.html On 10 June 2014 17:55, Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org wrote: Mainly discussed edge cases surrounding merge() processing and how we want to handle them moving forward. [11:47] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-06-10-14.51.html [11:47] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-06-10-14.51.txt [11:47] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-06-10-14.51.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 6/3
Not much discussed again today: [10:11] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-06-03-14.45.html [10:11] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-06-03-14.45.txt [10:11] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-06-03-14.45.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer meeting
Discussed new header for source files, new ParameterRecognizer for OGM integration, and DynamicAttributeContributor for OGM/Infinispan support (to be fleshed out more). [11:06] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-05-20-14.48.html [11:06] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-05-20-14.48.txt [11:06] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-05-20-14.48.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 4/15
Mainly discussed: 1) Java 8 support 2) 5.0 development [11:39] jbott Meeting ended Tue Apr 15 16:25:10 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [11:39] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-04-15-14.45.html [11:39] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-04-15-14.45.txt [11:39] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-04-15-14.45.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 3/25
[11:50] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-03-25-15.49.html [11:50] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-03-25-15.49.txt [11:50] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-03-25-15.49.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer meeting - 3/18
Discussed forums and metamodel (5.0) development [12:05] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-03-18-15.48.html [12:05] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-03-18-15.48.txt [12:05] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-03-18-15.48.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer meeting - 3/11
Mainly we discussed OGM and its evolving need for contextual info and how to best make that accessible from ORM contracts such as Session. Also, I gave an update on the Jira/GitHub email from last week. [12:46] jbott Meeting ended Tue Mar 11 17:34:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [12:46] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-03-11-15.46.html [12:46] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-03-11-15.46.txt [12:46] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-03-11-15.46.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer meeting - 2/25
Lot of discussion of ORM 5.0 development [10:55] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-02-25-15.51.html [10:55] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-02-25-15.51.txt [10:55] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-02-25-15.51.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC logs not available anymore on transcripts.jboss.org
Hi, The logs from #hibernate-dev on Freenode used to be available on [1], but I'm only getting 404s since a couple of days. Does anyone know what's the reason and how/by whom it can be fixed? I find that logs very helpful and frequently used them to catch up with discussions taking place while I'm offline. Thanks, --Gunnar [1] https://transcripts.jboss.org/channel/irc.freenode.org/%23hibernate-dev/index.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC logs not available anymore on transcripts.jboss.org
Drop the s in https. On Fri 2014-02-21 18:38, Gunnar Morling wrote: Hi, The logs from #hibernate-dev on Freenode used to be available on [1], but I'm only getting 404s since a couple of days. Does anyone know what's the reason and how/by whom it can be fixed? I find that logs very helpful and frequently used them to catch up with discussions taking place while I'm offline. Thanks, --Gunnar [1] https://transcripts.jboss.org/channel/irc.freenode.org/%23hibernate-dev/index.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC logs not available anymore on transcripts.jboss.org
Thanks! Bonus question (probably for Steve E.): Can you update the link in the channel description (Discuss development of Hibernate family of projects ( logged @ http://is.gd/0oe7PF;)? This link leads to the HTTPS version. --Gunnar 2014/2/21 Emmanuel Bernard emman...@hibernate.org Drop the s in https. On Fri 2014-02-21 18:38, Gunnar Morling wrote: Hi, The logs from #hibernate-dev on Freenode used to be available on [1], but I'm only getting 404s since a couple of days. Does anyone know what's the reason and how/by whom it can be fixed? I find that logs very helpful and frequently used them to catch up with discussions taking place while I'm offline. Thanks, --Gunnar [1] https://transcripts.jboss.org/channel/irc.freenode.org/%23hibernate-dev/index.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 2/18
Discussed progress of 5.0. [11:01] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-02-18-15.49.html [11:01] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-02-18-15.49.txt [11:01] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-02-18-15.49.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 2/11
Discussed Jandex and ClassMate usage, integration of BV into the new 5.0 code. Also discussed possible expansion of Jandex as a full offline reflection library, which I started discussing with Jason; he is on board in principal. [11:38] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-02-11-15.50.html [11:38] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-02-11-15.50.txt [11:38] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-02-11-15.50.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developers Meeting - 1/28
Main discussions were around: * new O/RM XSD and validation concepts * metamodel integration back into master branch [11:32] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-01-28-15.51.html [11:32] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-01-28-15.51.txt [11:32] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-01-28-15.51.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] irc team meetings and jbott
On 21 Jan 2014, at 16:11, Steve Ebersole wrote: The issue with slowness of ending the meeting was annoying yes. Thanks for finding that. The other issue is that jbott is sometimes just not there. It drops off quite a bit. To give you a flavor, here is its drops from just yesterday: 01:44 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-kcdixxnxtyoqqrjn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14:03 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-bftkgoghfxdwibyf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22:19 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-wxdxevjybbitcevv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23:23 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-cafuloaglxdbvmqg has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) So yeah, these drops was caused by jbott taking ages to sync - while it was syncing free node was pinging if it was alive and apparently subybot is single threaded so it lost the connection while it was spending 3-10 minutes on syncing. I've fixed that now by having rsync ignore 2011,2012 and 2013 folders. Thus assuming I'm right and done the fixes properly these dropouts should not happen anymore and the sync/response for end meeting and start meeting should be much faster and more consistent. Let me know if you observe it differently. There has been at least one occasion when we had a meeting and jbott was simply not in the room the entire time. Yeah, if that happens something is most likely wrong with its network connection - but I can see the bot have been running for ~5 months straight now and last time I restarted it was because of network change in neuchatel. Thus if you see it missing let me know - something must have occurred that the startup script is not considering but for now I haven't seen that. I've sent mail to core about the changes to let others know. /max On Tue 21 Jan 2014 07:45:08 AM CST, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: so I found whats wrong - the jbott been running for 4 years and one of the things it does when ending meetings is regenerating indexes that was fast the first couple of yearsnow its turned slow because it happens sequentially ;) I'll see what I can do to fix that dumb logic. /max On 21 Jan 2014, at 14:36, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: We have been having a lot of trouble lately with relying on jbott to record the team meetings on irc. A few times jbott has not been in the room. A few times it refuses to start/end meetings. Max, is there anything to be done to make jbott more stable? jbott had been running for months without problems (at least none known to me) - then there was a network disconnect at neuchatel office which meant it was off for a bit and then came back on. I know that it has gotten slower at ending meetings, i.e. it now takes some minutes for it to upload instead of seconds as in past. I can look into speeding that up if that is the problem you are seeing. Is that what you are seeing ? /max ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] irc team meetings and jbott
We have been having a lot of trouble lately with relying on jbott to record the team meetings on irc. A few times jbott has not been in the room. A few times it refuses to start/end meetings. Max, is there anything to be done to make jbott more stable? jbott had been running for months without problems (at least none known to me) - then there was a network disconnect at neuchatel office which meant it was off for a bit and then came back on. I know that it has gotten slower at ending meetings, i.e. it now takes some minutes for it to upload instead of seconds as in past. I can look into speeding that up if that is the problem you are seeing. Is that what you are seeing ? /max ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] irc team meetings and jbott
so I found whats wrong - the jbott been running for 4 years and one of the things it does when ending meetings is regenerating indexes that was fast the first couple of yearsnow its turned slow because it happens sequentially ;) I'll see what I can do to fix that dumb logic. /max On 21 Jan 2014, at 14:36, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: We have been having a lot of trouble lately with relying on jbott to record the team meetings on irc. A few times jbott has not been in the room. A few times it refuses to start/end meetings. Max, is there anything to be done to make jbott more stable? jbott had been running for months without problems (at least none known to me) - then there was a network disconnect at neuchatel office which meant it was off for a bit and then came back on. I know that it has gotten slower at ending meetings, i.e. it now takes some minutes for it to upload instead of seconds as in past. I can look into speeding that up if that is the problem you are seeing. Is that what you are seeing ? /max ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] irc team meetings and jbott
The issue with slowness of ending the meeting was annoying yes. Thanks for finding that. The other issue is that jbott is sometimes just not there. It drops off quite a bit. To give you a flavor, here is its drops from just yesterday: 01:44 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-kcdixxnxtyoqqrjn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14:03 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-bftkgoghfxdwibyf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22:19 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-wxdxevjybbitcevv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23:23 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-cafuloaglxdbvmqg has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) There has been at least one occasion when we had a meeting and jbott was simply not in the room the entire time. On Tue 21 Jan 2014 07:45:08 AM CST, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: so I found whats wrong - the jbott been running for 4 years and one of the things it does when ending meetings is regenerating indexes that was fast the first couple of yearsnow its turned slow because it happens sequentially ;) I'll see what I can do to fix that dumb logic. /max On 21 Jan 2014, at 14:36, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: We have been having a lot of trouble lately with relying on jbott to record the team meetings on irc. A few times jbott has not been in the room. A few times it refuses to start/end meetings. Max, is there anything to be done to make jbott more stable? jbott had been running for months without problems (at least none known to me) - then there was a network disconnect at neuchatel office which meant it was off for a bit and then came back on. I know that it has gotten slower at ending meetings, i.e. it now takes some minutes for it to upload instead of seconds as in past. I can look into speeding that up if that is the problem you are seeing. Is that what you are seeing ? /max ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] irc team meetings and jbott
So for today's meeting, jbott has still not ended the meeting. And that was 4 hours ago. At least it has not responded with the URLs. Is it still going? On Tue 21 Jan 2014 09:11:08 AM CST, Steve Ebersole wrote: The issue with slowness of ending the meeting was annoying yes. Thanks for finding that. The other issue is that jbott is sometimes just not there. It drops off quite a bit. To give you a flavor, here is its drops from just yesterday: 01:44 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-kcdixxnxtyoqqrjn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14:03 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-bftkgoghfxdwibyf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22:19 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-wxdxevjybbitcevv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23:23 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-cafuloaglxdbvmqg has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) There has been at least one occasion when we had a meeting and jbott was simply not in the room the entire time. On Tue 21 Jan 2014 07:45:08 AM CST, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: so I found whats wrong - the jbott been running for 4 years and one of the things it does when ending meetings is regenerating indexes that was fast the first couple of yearsnow its turned slow because it happens sequentially ;) I'll see what I can do to fix that dumb logic. /max On 21 Jan 2014, at 14:36, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: We have been having a lot of trouble lately with relying on jbott to record the team meetings on irc. A few times jbott has not been in the room. A few times it refuses to start/end meetings. Max, is there anything to be done to make jbott more stable? jbott had been running for months without problems (at least none known to me) - then there was a network disconnect at neuchatel office which meant it was off for a bit and then came back on. I know that it has gotten slower at ending meetings, i.e. it now takes some minutes for it to upload instead of seconds as in past. I can look into speeding that up if that is the problem you are seeing. Is that what you are seeing ? /max ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] irc team meetings and jbott
The meetings are uploaded - it's just that jirabot looses the connection while that is happening so it doesn't get to tell it. http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2014/hibernate-dev.2014-01-21-16.04.html I got a fix cooked up i think should make things better. I'll try get it in place tomorrow after a bit more testing. /max (sent from my phone) On 21/01/2014, at 21.35, Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org wrote: So for today's meeting, jbott has still not ended the meeting. And that was 4 hours ago. At least it has not responded with the URLs. Is it still going? On Tue 21 Jan 2014 09:11:08 AM CST, Steve Ebersole wrote: The issue with slowness of ending the meeting was annoying yes. Thanks for finding that. The other issue is that jbott is sometimes just not there. It drops off quite a bit. To give you a flavor, here is its drops from just yesterday: 01:44 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-kcdixxnxtyoqqrjn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14:03 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-bftkgoghfxdwibyf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22:19 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-wxdxevjybbitcevv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23:23 *** jbott jbott!supybot@nat/redhat/x-cafuloaglxdbvmqg has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) There has been at least one occasion when we had a meeting and jbott was simply not in the room the entire time. On Tue 21 Jan 2014 07:45:08 AM CST, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: so I found whats wrong - the jbott been running for 4 years and one of the things it does when ending meetings is regenerating indexes that was fast the first couple of yearsnow its turned slow because it happens sequentially ;) I'll see what I can do to fix that dumb logic. /max On 21 Jan 2014, at 14:36, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: We have been having a lot of trouble lately with relying on jbott to record the team meetings on irc. A few times jbott has not been in the room. A few times it refuses to start/end meetings. Max, is there anything to be done to make jbott more stable? jbott had been running for months without problems (at least none known to me) - then there was a network disconnect at neuchatel office which meant it was off for a bit and then came back on. I know that it has gotten slower at ending meetings, i.e. it now takes some minutes for it to upload instead of seconds as in past. I can look into speeding that up if that is the problem you are seeing. Is that what you are seeing ? /max ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] irc team meetings and jbott
We have been having a lot of trouble lately with relying on jbott to record the team meetings on irc. A few times jbott has not been in the room. A few times it refuses to start/end meetings. Max, is there anything to be done to make jbott more stable? If not, do we maybe want to look at using gitter for team meetings? We would not be able to delineate meetings (unless they have added that feature), but we would at least have the notes persistent. Any other thoughts? ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] irc team meetings and jbott
On queue :) [07:25] -- jbott has left this server (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). On Wed 15 Jan 2014 07:17:34 AM CST, Steve Ebersole wrote: We have been having a lot of trouble lately with relying on jbott to record the team meetings on irc. A few times jbott has not been in the room. A few times it refuses to start/end meetings. Max, is there anything to be done to make jbott more stable? If not, do we maybe want to look at using gitter for team meetings? We would not be able to delineate meetings (unless they have added that feature), but we would at least have the notes persistent. Any other thoughts? ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 12/17
Mainly discussed 5.0 development [10:49] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-12-17-15.53.html [10:49] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-12-17-15.53.txt [10:49] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-12-17-15.53.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 12/10
Discussed retagging CR2 as Final and 5.0 development. [10:42] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-12-10-15.56.html [10:42] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-12-10-15.56.txt [10:42] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-12-10-15.56.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - Oct 24
Discussed tasks related to ORM 4.3 release... Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-24-14.57.html Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-24-14.57.txt Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-24-14.57.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - Oct 17
Today's meeting focused mainly on JPA 2.1 EntityGraphs and getting that support knocked out. [11:39] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-17-14.58.html [11:39] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-17-14.58.txt [11:39] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-17-14.58.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - Oct 10
We actually made use of the topics feature of the bot today :) One got missed by the bot... [11:38] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-10-14.55.html [11:38] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-10-14.55.txt [11:38] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-10-14.55.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - Oct 10
Here is the list of proposed topical guides i started: https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/wiki/ProposalTopical-Docs On Thu 10 Oct 2013 11:47:03 AM CDT, Steve Ebersole wrote: We actually made use of the topics feature of the bot today :) One got missed by the bot... [11:38] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-10-14.55.html [11:38] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-10-14.55.txt [11:38] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-10-14.55.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - Oct 3
Various topics discussed today. Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-03-14.57.html Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-03-14.57.txt Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-10-03-14.57.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - Sept 26
Mostly discussion of JPA 2.1 TCK progress [10:20] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-09-26-15.01.html [10:20] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-09-26-15.01.txt [10:20] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-09-26-15.01.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - Sept 19
Discussed plans for merging hibernate-core and hibernate-entitymanager mostly (how, when, etc)... [11:14] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-09-19-15.00.html [11:14] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-09-19-15.00.txt [11:14] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-09-19-15.00.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - Sept 12
Quite a few discussions around JPA 2.1. Discussed ongoing tooling work: maven/gradle plugin development, migration of JPA Metamodel Generator project into ORM. And more. [10:44] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-09-12-15.01.html [10:44] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-09-12-15.01.txt [10:44] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-09-12-15.01.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - August 29
Mostly discussed LoadPlans. [10:36] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-08-29-15.04.html [10:36] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-08-29-15.04.txt [10:36] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-08-29-15.04.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - August 22
Mostly discussed database matrix testing... [10:35] jbott Meeting ended Thu Aug 22 15:33:27 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [10:35] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-08-22-15.00.html [10:35] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-08-22-15.00.txt [10:35] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-08-22-15.00.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - Aug 15
Mainly discussed LoadPlan progress... [10:45] jbott Meeting ended Thu Aug 15 15:44:07 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [10:45] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-08-15-15.01.html [10:45] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-08-15-15.01.txt [10:45] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-08-15-15.01.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC developer meeting - 8/1
Discussed OGM development, progress on the new website design, and other topics.. [11:17] jbott Meeting ended Thu Aug 1 16:16:57 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [11:17] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-08-01-15.01.html [11:17] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-08-01-15.01.txt [11:17] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-08-01-15.01.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 7/25
Lots of topics today. Long meeting... [11:41] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-07-25-14.33.html [11:41] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-07-25-14.33.txt [11:41] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-07-25-14.33.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Dev Meeting - 7/18
Short meeting today. Strong discussed metamodel branch progress a little bit. We discussed LoadPlans and JPA 2.1 a little as well. [10:26] jbott Meeting ended Thu Jul 18 14:58:30 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [10:26] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-07-18-14.36.html [10:26] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-07-18-14.36.txt [10:26] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-07-18-14.36.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 7/11
Today we discussed Integrators, mapping fetch strategies in the new metamodel and wakeboarding amongst other topics :) [11:35] jbott Meeting ended Thu Jul 11 16:07:16 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [11:35] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-07-11-14.43.html [11:35] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-07-11-14.43.txt [11:35] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-07-11-14.43.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 6/27
Today was mostly discussion about the Maven and Gradle plugin development [11:04] jbott Meeting ended Thu Jun 27 16:00:00 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [11:04] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-06-27-15.08.html [11:04] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-06-27-15.08.txt [11:04] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-06-27-15.08.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 6/20
http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-06-20-15.01.html http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-06-20-15.01.log.html http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-06-20-15.01.log.txt http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-06-20-15.01.txt ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 6/13
Mostly we discussed about developing then maven and gradle plugins, from packaging to initial features. Very excited! [11:03] jbott Meeting ended Thu Jun 13 15:59:59 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [11:03] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-06-13-15.03.html [11:03] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-06-13-15.03.txt [11:03] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-06-13-15.03.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 5/30
Today we discussed the work to update and redesign the query parser and progress on metamodel (5.0) work... [10:49] jbott Meeting ended Thu May 30 15:46:47 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [10:49] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-05-30-15.00.html [10:49] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-05-30-15.00.txt [10:49] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-05-30-15.00.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 5/23
Discussed metamodel (5.0) progress, JPA 2.1 testing, Jenkins builds and the Mysterious Case of the Disappearing Sanne... [10:50] jbott Meeting ended Thu May 23 15:48:18 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [10:50] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-05-23-14.59.html [10:50] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-05-23-14.59.txt [10:50] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-05-23-14.59.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 5/9
Discussed progress of JPA 2.1 implementation, progress of Hibernate Spatial integration, Gradle 1.6, pull request for HANA database support, etc. Details: [10:49] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-05-09-15.03.html [10:49] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-05-09-15.03.txt [10:49] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-05-09-15.03.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer meeting - 4/25
Short meeting today. Discussed CI server, checkstyle checks. [10:21] jbott Meeting ended Thu Apr 25 15:20:16 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [10:21] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-04-25-14.59.html [10:21] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-04-25-14.59.txt [10:21] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-04-25-14.59.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 4/18
Discussed few different topics today: CI builds, EE7/4.3 status and integration with JBoss AS 8, 4.2 release, recent Gradle update and others. [11:27] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-04-18-14.59.html [11:27] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-04-18-14.59.txt [11:27] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-04-18-14.59.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC meeting
is this provider Google Fiber? :) On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org wrote: Sorry all but I won't be able to make meeting. In the middle of internet connection provider setup. Of course they showed up right at time of meeting :( Anyway I just have cell connection atm. ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev - Best Regards, Strong Liu stliu at hibernate.org http://about.me/stliu/bio ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 4/4
Discussed JPA 2.1, release of IntelliJ 12.1, OSGi support, and integration testing amongst EE7 components [10:54] jbott Meeting ended Thu Apr 4 15:49:05 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [10:54] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-04-04-15.03.html [10:54] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-04-04-15.03.txt [10:54] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-04-04-15.03.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 3/21
Not long discussion today. Some OSGi and EE7 talk. [10:23] jbott Meeting ended Thu Mar 21 15:18:05 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [10:23] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-03-21-14.55.html [10:23] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-03-21-14.55.txt [10:23] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-03-21-14.55.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC meeting
oh, sorry guys, after that long holiday, I forgot this meeting :( On Feb 21, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org wrote: I may not be able to make todays meeting either. The warranty folks are coming to look at my laptop this morning, so depending on how that goes... ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev - Best Regards, Strong Liu stliu at hibernate.org http://about.me/stliu/bio ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC meeting
I may not be able to make todays meeting either. The warranty folks are coming to look at my laptop this morning, so depending on how that goes... ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting : 2013-02-07
Mostly a discussion about time lines for releases as we coordinate for the upcoming Java EE 7 release. [10:32] jbott Meeting ended Thu Feb 7 16:29:30 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [10:32] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-02-07-16.01.html [10:32] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-02-07-16.01.txt [10:32] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2013/hibernate-dev.2013-02-07-16.01.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC Logs
yeah, sorry about this someone filled up the machine disk while I was away in Brno. /max On 14 Dec 2012, at 19:34, Gunnar Morling gun...@hibernate.org wrote: Hi, Emmanuel said he wanted to contact Max, not sure what came out of this. --Gunnar Am 14.12.2012 18:56 schrieb Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org: Nope, but I'll look into it. On Fri 14 Dec 2012 10:53:27 AM CST, Gunnar Morling wrote: Hi all, As it seems, there is a problem with the IRC transcripts from #hibernate-dev [1]. There are no logs after December 12th. Does anyone happen to know whats the problem and how it could be fixed? Thanks, --Gunnar [1] http://transcripts.jboss.org/**channel/irc.freenode.org/%** 23hibernate-dev/2012/index.**htmlhttp://transcripts.jboss.org/channel/irc.freenode.org/%23hibernate-dev/2012/index.html __**_ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/**mailman/listinfo/hibernate-devhttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC Logs
It's back up. On 14 déc. 2012, at 19:34, Gunnar Morling gun...@hibernate.org wrote: Hi, Emmanuel said he wanted to contact Max, not sure what came out of this. --Gunnar Am 14.12.2012 18:56 schrieb Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org: Nope, but I'll look into it. On Fri 14 Dec 2012 10:53:27 AM CST, Gunnar Morling wrote: Hi all, As it seems, there is a problem with the IRC transcripts from #hibernate-dev [1]. There are no logs after December 12th. Does anyone happen to know whats the problem and how it could be fixed? Thanks, --Gunnar [1] http://transcripts.jboss.org/**channel/irc.freenode.org/%** 23hibernate-dev/2012/index.**htmlhttp://transcripts.jboss.org/channel/irc.freenode.org/%23hibernate-dev/2012/index.html __**_ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/**mailman/listinfo/hibernate-devhttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Logs
Hi all, As it seems, there is a problem with the IRC transcripts from #hibernate-dev [1]. There are no logs after December 12th. Does anyone happen to know whats the problem and how it could be fixed? Thanks, --Gunnar [1] http://transcripts.jboss.org/channel/irc.freenode.org/%23hibernate-dev/2012/index.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC Logs
Hi, Emmanuel said he wanted to contact Max, not sure what came out of this. --Gunnar Am 14.12.2012 18:56 schrieb Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org: Nope, but I'll look into it. On Fri 14 Dec 2012 10:53:27 AM CST, Gunnar Morling wrote: Hi all, As it seems, there is a problem with the IRC transcripts from #hibernate-dev [1]. There are no logs after December 12th. Does anyone happen to know whats the problem and how it could be fixed? Thanks, --Gunnar [1] http://transcripts.jboss.org/**channel/irc.freenode.org/%** 23hibernate-dev/2012/index.**htmlhttp://transcripts.jboss.org/channel/irc.freenode.org/%23hibernate-dev/2012/index.html __**_ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/**mailman/listinfo/hibernate-devhttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC meetings
We decided to put off the weekly meetings for the time being. At least until we get the various codebases merged back together and start pushing towards 5.0 -- st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 11/29
[08:51] jbott Meeting ended Tue Nov 29 14:51:01 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [08:51] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-11-29-14.19.html [08:51] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-11-29-14.19.txt [08:51] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-11-29-14.19.log.html -- st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 11/22
[08:42] jbott Meeting ended Tue Nov 22 14:42:35 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [08:42] jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-11-22-14.10.html [08:42] jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-11-22-14.10.txt [08:42] jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-11-22-14.10.log.html -- st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Development Meeting 9/27
jbott Meeting ended Tue Sep 27 15:18:34 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-09-27-15.01.html jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-09-27-15.01.txt jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-09-27-15.01.log.html -- st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC Development Meeting 9/27
False alarm, sorry about the noise. ;) The application was compiled with Java 7 but was run with Java 6. On 09/27/2011 12:07 PM, Scott Marlow wrote: A user reported a LazyInitializationException: could not initialize proxy - no Session problem (http://community.jboss.org/message/628853) that we might want to consider fixing for Hibernate 4.0.0.Final (if the bug is in Hibernate). I asked the user to enable trace logging for org.hibernate.impl.SessionImpl and org.jboss.as.jpa to get more information. Scott On 09/27/2011 11:21 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote: jbott Meeting ended Tue Sep 27 15:18:34 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-09-27-15.01.html jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-09-27-15.01.txt jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-09-27-15.01.log.html ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 9/13
jbott Meeting ended Tue Sep 13 15:34:21 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-09-13-15.04.html jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-09-13-15.04.txt jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-09-13-15.04.log.html -- st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting Notes - 9/6
jbott Meeting ended Tue Sep 6 16:28:35 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-09-06-15.03.html jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-09-06-15.03.txt jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-09-06-15.03.log.html -- st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 8/15
jbott Meeting ended Mon Aug 15 16:05:12 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-08-15-15.05.html jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-08-15-15.05.txt jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-08-15-15.05.log.html -- st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting 8/8
jbott Meeting ended Mon Aug 8 16:31:25 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-08-08-15.01.html jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-08-08-15.01.txt jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-08-08-15.01.log.html -- st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting - 8/1
jbott Meeting ended Mon Aug 1 16:18:43 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-08-01-15.00.html jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-08-01-15.00.txt jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-08-01-15.00.log.html -- st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting 7/25
jbott Meeting ended Mon Jul 25 16:17:03 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-07-25-15.11.html jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-07-25-15.11.txt jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-07-25-15.11.log.html -- st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting (7/18)
jbott Meeting ended Mon Jul 18 15:40:53 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) jbott Minutes: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-07-18-15.01.html jbott Minutes (text): http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-07-18-15.01.txt jbott Log: http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-07-18-15.01.log.html -- st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting (6/27)
[06/27/11 11:11] jbott Meeting ended Mon Jun 27 16:11:22 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [06/27/11 11:11] jbott Minutes: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-06-27-15.04.html [06/27/11 11:11] jbott Minutes (text): http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-06-27-15.04.txt [06/27/11 11:11] jbott Log: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-06-27-15.04.log.html -- Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Developer Meeting (6/20)
[06/20/11 11:33] jbott Meeting ended Mon Jun 20 16:33:26 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [06/20/11 11:33] jbott Minutes: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-06-20-15.04.html [06/20/11 11:33] jbott Minutes (text): http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-06-20-15.04.txt [06/20/11 11:33] jbott Log: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-06-20-15.04.log.html -- Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Dev Meeting
[06/06/11 10:18] jbott Meeting ended Mon Jun 6 15:18:21 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [06/06/11 10:18] jbott Minutes: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-06-06-15.02.html [06/06/11 10:18] jbott Minutes (text): http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-06-06-15.02.txt [06/06/11 10:18] jbott Log: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-06-06-15.02.log.html -- Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC meeting logs via meeting bot
i.e. #action maxandersen sebersole solve all build problems in the world. and both maxandersen and sebersole will have solve all build problems in the world as an action item in the summary. Very useful, thank you. and in next release it will create JIRAs, assign them to you and attach the logs as description? I was actually considering making it possible to create jiras from irc but couldn't come up with a secure way to do it and I ran out of time - so you will have to cope or contribute ;) /max Sanne /max On Apr 18, 2011, at 17:51, Steve Ebersole wrote: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/ Todays, for exmple, are: [04/18/11 10:47] jbott Meeting ended Mon Apr 18 15:47:53 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [04/18/11 10:47] jbott Minutes: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-04-18-15.05.html [04/18/11 10:47] jbott Minutes (text): http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-04-18-15.05.txt [04/18/11 10:47] jbott Log: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-04-18-15.05.log.html -- Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC meeting logs via meeting bot
http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/ Todays, for exmple, are: [04/18/11 10:47] jbott Meeting ended Mon Apr 18 15:47:53 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [04/18/11 10:47] jbott Minutes: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-04-18-15.05.html [04/18/11 10:47] jbott Minutes (text): http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-04-18-15.05.txt [04/18/11 10:47] jbott Log: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-04-18-15.05.log.html -- Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC meeting logs via meeting bot
btw.a few keywords that are good to remember. To add some key point to the summary (instead of requiring everyone reading the full log) use #info text or #agreed text if you want to differentiate and it will show up in the summary. If there are action items use #action nick* what and it will also be noted in the summary. i.e. #action maxandersen sebersole solve all build problems in the world. and both maxandersen and sebersole will have solve all build problems in the world as an action item in the summary. /max On Apr 18, 2011, at 17:51, Steve Ebersole wrote: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/ Todays, for exmple, are: [04/18/11 10:47] jbott Meeting ended Mon Apr 18 15:47:53 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) [04/18/11 10:47] jbott Minutes: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-04-18-15.05.html [04/18/11 10:47] jbott Minutes (text): http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-04-18-15.05.txt [04/18/11 10:47] jbott Log: http://people.redhat.com/~manderse/irc.freenode.org/meetings/hibernate-dev/2011/hibernate-dev.2011-04-18-15.05.log.html -- Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Dev Meetings
Lets put off the dev meetings on IRC for the next few weeks and pick it back up the week after new years (Jan 3). Hope everyone has a good and happy holidays! --- Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC meeting 6/7
Here are the notes from todays meeting. Thanks to Hans and Jason for joining and answering Gradle questions. -- Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org [09:55] sebersole few minutes early, but y'all ready to start? [09:55] hardy sebersole: epbernard btw, when I started Intellij today I got a notification that my license expires in 4 days. Do we have a new license key? [09:55] sebersole yep, its on my list for today :) [09:55] sebersole to discuss [09:56] hardy uhh - I wonder what that means [09:56] sebersole first i wanted to thank hans__ and lightguard_jp for joining [09:57] sebersole both work on gradle and agreed to join in case y'all had questions on that later [09:57] sebersole hardy: we can start there [09:57] * lightguard_jp waves. Hi all [09:58] sebersole i just mean that i had the same experience [09:58] sebersole we need to find out if they plan on continuing to give use licenses for utlimate [09:58] stliu hi hans__ I have seen many times of your name from gradle's source code :D [09:59] hans__ stliu: :) [09:59] sebersole epbernard: have you contacted them yet? [10:00] hardy sebersole: have they indicated once that we should use the community version [10:00] sebersole they gave us problems last time the license came up [10:01] sebersole we'll see [10:01] sebersole so i guess we'll circle back to that [10:01] sebersole did anyone get time to look over the temp table stuff? [10:02] stliu not from me [10:02] hardy not more than reading your email and the wiki page [10:03] sebersole ok [10:03] sebersole so i'll probably just move forward on that then [10:03] sebersole the last thing i had was gradle [10:04] sebersole has anyone looked at that? [10:04] hardy i checked out the gradle branc and built it [10:04] stliu have you finsihed that mead+gradle plugin? i saw from you mail [10:05] hardy also tried to get familiar with the whole concept and syntax [10:05] sebersole stliu: no [10:05] hardy i like the fact that it overcomes some of the maven problems [10:05] hardy if not all [10:06] sebersole i think it fits better [10:06] hardy and I share the same frustrations about maven as you described on your wiki page [10:06] sebersole which at the end of the day is all we really need to decide [10:06] sebersole gradle is young and will have some pains [10:07] sebersole but does the conept match better with what we want to do [10:07] hardy but as I also mentioned before is whether it's worth changing now where the maven build is working (admitingly with hacks) [10:07] sebersole hardy: it already 75% done [10:08] hardy and as you just said, i am sure we will have some pains with gradle as well [10:08] sebersole that branch is pulled from trunk recently [10:08] sebersole the one thing that still gnaws at me is releases [10:09] stliu sebersole, i'd think it would better to wait for gradle GA [10:09] stliu just to be safe [10:09] sebersole stliu: well that effectively means not doing it for 3.6 [10:09] stliu hans__, btw, i haven't find a way to join gradle mail list [10:10] hans__ stliu: You mean you could not find instructions how to do it? [10:11] sebersole http://www.gradle.org/lists.html [10:11] lightguard_jp I had another community member say it took him a long time to join, like the subscrition emails were taking a long time to be delivered. [10:11] hardy sebersole: do you think there will be implications for contributors and patches when we switch to gradle? [10:11] hans__ It is the codehaus infrastructure we are using. [10:12] stliu hardy, good point [10:12] sebersole hardy: i dont see how [10:12] sebersole my guess is most people use IDE [10:12] hardy I mean pretty much everyone runs maven now. What will contributors/ patch submitters say if we ask them to run gradle [10:12] hardy not sure about this one [10:12] sebersole about what? [10:12] stliu yes, not very much people know/familiar with gradle for now [10:13] hans__ hardy: The good thing is that people don't need to install it locally. [10:13] sebersole which was the case when we switched to maven 2.5+ years ago [10:13] hardy using gradle might add another barrier to provide runable unit tests [10:13] hardy hans__: You don't need to install it locally? [10:13] hans__ hardy: They can use the gradlew scripts which automatically downloads Gradle. [10:14] hans__ hardy: They just checkout and type ./gradlew build [10:14] lightguard_jp If you have the wrapper in svn then there's really nothing you'd have to do just tell them to gradlew task and you're done. [10:14] sebersole we have the scripts [10:14] hardy right, I didn't know that. sounds promising [10:14] sebersole yes we just need to document the 3 or 4 tasks they are likely to need to know [10:14] stliu that's cool [10:14] sebersole heres how you jar [10:15] sebersole heres how you test [10:15] sebersole etc [10:15] hardy jupp, that's a must [10:15] hardy and if I understand correctly with gradle we can actually have a build which works out of the box [10:15]
[hibernate-dev] IRC meeting
This week we discussed progress on 3.6: 1) both of the main features (types and key-many-to-one) are largely done; so I will start making the pre-release schedule for alphas/betas 2) discussed merging of annotations again; basically holding until the docs are merged. 3) discussed possibility of merging jmx code back into core as well now that we have moved to JDK 1.5 which includes the jmx classes 4) discussed possibility of merging testing/testsuite back into core as well. revisited why, maven limitations, and discussed move to gradle as a way to alleviate this as well as other issue we have with maven. 5) As a follow up to the gradle discussion we agreed to not decode today. We will put this off until next week. But if importing a gradle project into both eclipse and intellij is working and we can get the jdocbook stuff working in gradle, then i plan on moving to gradle for the build. 6) move to H2 as default test database complete on trunk. This led to a general realization that we may need to revamp our temp table usage a bit on a few databases. I will send a follow up email about that topic a little later. -- Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org [10:00] sebersole i guess we'll get started [10:01] sebersole first i wanted to talk a bit about 3.6 [10:01] sebersole i finished up the major task for 3.6 last week [10:02] stliu type? [10:02] sebersole so we should start planning some pre-releases [10:02] sebersole types and key-many-to-one stuff [10:03] sebersole we had a hole in jpa2 support with the key-many-to-one stuff [10:03] sebersole so it was important to fix [10:03] sebersole please jboss wanted it for specj [10:03] sebersole well needed it for specj [10:03] hardy_ do we pass specj now? [10:04] sebersole not sure [10:04] sebersole stale hadnt had a chance to try it out last we talked [10:04] hardy_ ok [10:04] sebersole but the test case we wrote in core based on the specj usage is passing [10:05] sebersole just a few loose ends to tie up for 3.6 [10:05] sebersole 1) documentation [10:05] sebersole was really hoping emmanuel would be here so we could find out how far he got [10:05] hardy_ it's public holiday in France [10:06] sebersole i started a new chapter on types [10:07] sebersole another issue is temp table support [10:07] sebersole (2) temp table support [10:07] hardy_ what's that? [10:07] sebersole sql temporary tables [10:08] sebersole that how we implement bulk hql [10:08] sebersole in cases where the update or delete spans multiple tables [10:08] sebersole we break it down into 2 steps... [10:09] sebersole first we populate a temp table with all the IDs that match [10:09] sebersole then we execute the update/delete against all the entity tables matching on the ids in the temp table [10:09] sebersole far more efficient [10:09] sebersole then pulling all the ids back into memory [10:10] hardy_ thanks. I did not know that. Do all databases support temp tables? [10:10] sebersole yes and no [10:10] sebersole thats the issue :) [10:10] hardy_ :) [10:10] sebersole temp tables are ansi standard [10:10] sebersole so they all have them (hsqldb aside, surprise [10:11] hardy_ seems we should really not use hsql anymore [10:11] sebersole however, they do not all support them correctly [10:11] sebersole (hardy_ well i have switched the default profile) [10:11] hardy_ I noticed. I am doing the same for Search [10:11] sebersole some times we can work around the lack of support [10:12] sebersole sometimes we really cannot [10:12] sebersole well cannot as-is [10:12] sebersole in those cases we either (1) need a new paradigm [10:12] sebersole or (2) say we dont support it on those dbs [10:13] sebersole the issue is that the number of dbs is not small [10:13] sebersole perhaps this is better mapped out in an email; [10:14] sebersole i'll write one up today to the dev list [10:14] hardy_ maybe - seems quite lengthy [10:14] sebersole its involved yes [10:14] sebersole last thing for me 3.6 is module merging [10:15] sebersole we decided to merge annotations into core [10:15] hardy_ how did it go so far? [10:15] sebersole i have not started [10:15] stliu have hat started yet? [10:15] stliu oh [10:15] stliu okay [10:15] sebersole was kind of waiting to see about docs [10:15] sebersole another likely candidate is jmx [10:16] sebersole since 1.5 bundles jmx no iirc [10:16] sebersole since 1.5 bundles jmx now iirc [10:16] hardy_ i think so [10:16] sebersole and we also need to discuss testing/testsuite [10:17] hardy_ you mean jconsole and the like [10:17] sebersole hardy_: i guess [10:17] hardy_ what about jmx? You want to expose statistics via JMX? [10:17] sebersole we have all this already :) [10:17] sebersole hibernate-jmx [10:17] sebersole its just that its a separate module [10:18] hardy_ ahh - got it [10:18] sebersole because previously the jdk did not provided the needed classes [10:18] sebersole jse that it [10:18] hardy_ I was just about to say that this stuff is
[hibernate-dev] IRC meeting (5/10)
I did not save off the transcript of todays meeting. nbsp;If anyone has it and wants to share feel free. nbsp;The minutes as I remember were: 1) 3.5.2 a go for wednesdaynbsp; 2) Hudson rounding into shape 3) Emmanuel will initiate discussions about including spatial library and special geo query support -- Sent from my Palm Pre st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC meeting (5/3)
I can look at it, but I currently have a lot of local changes that I cannot yet commit. How difficult is it to circle back to this in a few days, setting the jobs up with hsqldb in the meantime? On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 09:57 +0800, Strong Liu wrote: before we move to H2 formally, Steve, Gail, would you please run the whole trunk on H2 locally and resolve the failures/errors(20+)? -- Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC meeting (5/3)
Attached are the notes from today's meeting. In summary: 1) Strong is almost done setting up the new Hudson jobs for Core. Yaay! 2) Rather than email notifications we will utilize Hudson's RSS features. 3) We will be switching from HSQLDB to H2 for default testing. 4) We agreed to try 4 weeks as the timebox for 3.5 for the time being. That puts 3.5.2 on May 12th. 5) For the time being bug fixes need to be applied to both trunk and the 3.5 branch. Also discussed general backporting guidelines. 6) Discussed changes in 3.6 pertaining to Type, TypeFactory, etc. Will get http://community.jboss.org/wiki/DesignTypescoping updated and we can discuss any concern next week. 7) Merging annotation documentation into core is in progress. 8) Discussed JIRA issue http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-4135 which lead to http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-5187 -- Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org [10:01] sebersole hey all [10:02] stliu hi [10:02] sebersole lets go ahead and get started [10:02] epbernard hi [10:02] sebersole stliu: did you want to start off with your progress on hudson? [10:02] hardy_ hi [10:02] stliu yes [10:02] stliu two hudson jobs are almost ready [10:02] sebersole we need a conch shell ;) [10:03] stliu one if for trunk and another is for branch35 [10:03] stliu and each one will trigger another job that run the testsuite with the snapshot [10:04] stliu we will make these two testsuite jobs public in this week [10:04] stliu the testsuite jobs run on DB matrix [10:04] stliu any questions? [10:04] epbernard stliu: is HSearch part of the plan? [10:04] gbadner no, that sounds good [10:05] sebersole the main jobs run on h2/hsqldb? [10:05] stliu epbernard, no, not yet [10:05] stliu only hsqldb [10:05] sebersole we should look at moving to h2 [10:05] sebersole we get too many false positives with hsqldb [10:06] stliu sebersole, you mean only run it on h2 or run it on both? [10:06] sebersole i mean just [10:06] sebersole swap h2 for hsqldb [10:06] sebersole epbernard: did you want such a set up for search? [10:06] stliu okay, that's cool [10:06] gbadner we used to get notifications when builds were unstable; is there a way to start doing that again? [10:07] epbernard Yes that would be ideal to run search the same way [10:07] sebersole well thats something else i wanted to discuss [10:07] sebersole hudson does rss right? [10:07] stliu yes Gail, notification will reach you in this week :) [10:07] gbadner :) [10:07] stliu rss, yes [10:07] sebersole so thats another option [10:07] stliu feed://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/Hibernate%20Community/job/hibernate-core-trunk/rssAll [10:08] gbadner can we still kick off a build manually? [10:08] sebersole does it have a feed for the scheme we defined before? [10:08] stliu yes, we can [10:08] epbernard RSS is cool for me [10:08] sebersole notify if the build goes bad or if it goes good [10:08] hardy_ can we get something which is visible to the outside world without VPN access? [10:09] sebersole email seems like todays mail blasts [10:09] stliu there are two feeds, one is all another is failure [10:09] sebersole ok, failure is probably enough [10:09] stliu the plan is make this main job internal, but the testsuite job public [10:09] sebersole for my needs [10:09] stliu but if you'd like, we can make both public [10:09] sebersole why one private? [10:10] epbernard Is there a reason why I can't access /hudson/view/Hibernate%20Community/job/hibernate-core-trunk/rssAll [10:10] sebersole whats the rationale? [10:10] stliu epbernard, that's an dns error i'd think [10:10] stliu try to use ip [10:10] hardy_ epbernard: if you are on mac you might have problems resolving hudson.qa.jboss.com even if you are on the VPN [10:10] hardy_ it bugs me as wel [10:10] hardy_ l [10:10] epbernard what [10:11] epbernard s the IP [10:11] epbernard ? [10:11] stliu sebersole, i thought that's we talked last week, but, sure, both public is better [10:11] hardy_ epbernard: ip is 10.16.88.204 [10:11] sebersole i dont recall discussing that [10:11] stliu 10.16.88.204 [10:11] stliu sebersole, alright :) [10:11] sebersole if there is not a specific reason, then yeah lets make both public [10:12] stliu okay, for trunk, there are two jobs, http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/Hibernate%20Community/job/hibernate-core-trunk/ and http://hudson.qa.jboss.com/hudson/view/Hibernate%20Community/job/hibernate-testsuite2/ [10:13] stliu if the first one runs(on hsqldb for now, will change it to h2) no failure, then it publish snapshot and trigger the second one [10:13] sebersole yaay! [10:13] sebersole sounds great [10:13] stliu the second one will use the snapshot published by 1 and run the testsuite on DB marix [10:13] sebersole gbadner: you ok with rss instead of email? [10:14] gbadner yeah, that's fin [10:14] gbadner fine [10:14] sebersole cool [10:14] stliu and for 2 job, it will run the testsuite on hsqldb(or h2)
Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC meeting (5/3)
As a follow-up to this, we need to discuss how to handle deprecation
of now completely unsupported methods.
Lets take org.hibernate.Hibernate#entity as an example. Given that
these types are now explicitly scoped to a SessionFactory and that the
exposed org.hibernate.Hibernate Type methods do not accept a
SessionFactory we need to decide what to do here. We completely cannot
support these methods. So we must decide between:
1) removal
2) deprecation
If we were to opt for deprecation, the method would end up looking
something like:
/**
* DO NOT USE!
* @deprecated Types are now scoped, use {...@link xyz} instead.
*/
public static Type entity(String name) {
throw new HibernateException( Not supported );
}
Which I wonder might be worse than removing the method altogether.
On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 13:00 -0500, Steve Ebersole wrote:
Attached are the notes from today's meeting.
In summary:
1) Strong is almost done setting up the new Hudson jobs for Core.
Yaay!
2) Rather than email notifications we will utilize Hudson's RSS
features.
3) We will be switching from HSQLDB to H2 for default testing.
4) We agreed to try 4 weeks as the timebox for 3.5 for the time being.
That puts 3.5.2 on May 12th.
5) For the time being bug fixes need to be applied to both trunk and the
3.5 branch. Also discussed general backporting guidelines.
6) Discussed changes in 3.6 pertaining to Type, TypeFactory, etc. Will
get http://community.jboss.org/wiki/DesignTypescoping updated and we can
discuss any concern next week.
7) Merging annotation documentation into core is in progress.
8) Discussed JIRA issue
http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-4135 which
lead to
http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-5187
--
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Re: [hibernate-dev] IRC meeting (5/3)
On May 4, 2010, at 2:00 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote: Attached are the notes from today's meeting. In summary: 1) Strong is almost done setting up the new Hudson jobs for Core. Yaay! 2) Rather than email notifications we will utilize Hudson's RSS features. 3) We will be switching from HSQLDB to H2 for default testing. before we move to H2 formally, Steve, Gail, would you please run the whole trunk on H2 locally and resolve the failures/errors(20+)? I'm asking because of if there is any failures/errors in the Main job, then it will not trigger the testsuite job. and Emmanuel, Hardy, if you want to have the same hudson setup for H-search, please make sure all test pass H2 first 4) We agreed to try 4 weeks as the timebox for 3.5 for the time being. That puts 3.5.2 on May 12th. 5) For the time being bug fixes need to be applied to both trunk and the 3.5 branch. Also discussed general backporting guidelines. 6) Discussed changes in 3.6 pertaining to Type, TypeFactory, etc. Will get http://community.jboss.org/wiki/DesignTypescoping updated and we can discuss any concern next week. 7) Merging annotation documentation into core is in progress. 8) Discussed JIRA issue http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-4135 which lead to http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-5187 -- Steve Ebersole st...@hibernate.org http://hibernate.org meeting-2010-05-03.txt___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
[hibernate-dev] IRC Client For Setting Environment
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[hibernate-dev] IRC
Can't remember if I sent this out before. I set up a #hibernate-dev channel on the freenode IRC server (irc.freenode.net) for dev related discussions. - Steve Ebersole Project Lead http://hibernate.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Principal Software Engineer JBoss, a division of Red Hat http://jboss.com http://redhat.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
