Re: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:40:55 +0100, Gavin King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sure, any app that has conversations requires it. This is not in any way Seam-specific... No - but I did not plan on adding optimistic locking before later. I wanted to add it now because I felt it were kinda required to make the seam reveng work well... /max -Original Message- From: Max Andersen Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:37 AM To: Gavin King; Hibernate development Subject: Re: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:29:13 +0100, Gavin King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why would it break Seam?? I didn't say it would break Seam, i'm saying that the logic used when doing long conversations kinda requires optimistic locking to work well, right ? /max -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Max Rydahl Andersen Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:59 AM To: Hibernate development Subject: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking Hi, One caveat with reveng to the seam app is that we dont currently have support for detecting optimistic locking for the generated classes - and I reckon it kinda breaks some of the seam logic. Do you think it is safe to auto-enable optlock for columns with the name "version" and a primitive numeric type or should it be done explicitly in reveng.xml ? I'm mostly for having a "Auto-detect optimistc locking columns" option in the reverseengineering options ...and i'm also leaning towards having it enabled by default (who don't use optimistic locking anyway ;) There might be "quirks" in larger reveng situations where it should be possible to enable/disable "autodetect optimistic locking" for certain columns/tables. -- -- Max Rydahl Andersen callto://max.rydahl.andersen Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Max Rydahl Andersen callto://max.rydahl.andersen Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel
RE: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking
Sure, any app that has conversations requires it. This is not in any way Seam-specific... -Original Message- From: Max Andersen Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:37 AM To: Gavin King; Hibernate development Subject: Re: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:29:13 +0100, Gavin King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why would it break Seam?? I didn't say it would break Seam, i'm saying that the logic used when doing long conversations kinda requires optimistic locking to work well, right ? /max > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Max > Rydahl Andersen > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:59 AM > To: Hibernate development > Subject: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking > > Hi, > > One caveat with reveng to the seam app is that we dont currently have > support for detecting optimistic locking for the generated classes - > and I reckon it kinda breaks some of the seam logic. > > Do you think it is safe to auto-enable optlock for columns with the > name "version" and a primitive numeric type or should it be done > explicitly in reveng.xml ? > > I'm mostly for having a "Auto-detect optimistc locking columns" option > in the reverseengineering options ...and i'm also leaning towards > having it enabled by default (who don't use optimistic locking anyway > ;) > > There might be "quirks" in larger reveng situations where it should be > possible to enable/disable "autodetect optimistic locking" for certain > columns/tables. > -- -- Max Rydahl Andersen callto://max.rydahl.andersen Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id865&op=click ___ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel
Re: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:29:13 +0100, Gavin King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why would it break Seam?? I didn't say it would break Seam, i'm saying that the logic used when doing long conversations kinda requires optimistic locking to work well, right ? /max -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Max Rydahl Andersen Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:59 AM To: Hibernate development Subject: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking Hi, One caveat with reveng to the seam app is that we dont currently have support for detecting optimistic locking for the generated classes - and I reckon it kinda breaks some of the seam logic. Do you think it is safe to auto-enable optlock for columns with the name "version" and a primitive numeric type or should it be done explicitly in reveng.xml ? I'm mostly for having a "Auto-detect optimistc locking columns" option in the reverseengineering options ...and i'm also leaning towards having it enabled by default (who don't use optimistic locking anyway ;) There might be "quirks" in larger reveng situations where it should be possible to enable/disable "autodetect optimistic locking" for certain columns/tables. -- -- Max Rydahl Andersen callto://max.rydahl.andersen Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel
RE: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking
I say just let the user specify the column name they use for versions... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Emmanuel Bernard Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:19 AM To: Max Andersen Cc: Hibernate development Subject: Re: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking Can(t you write a pluggable guess strategy, like the namingstrategy but for guessing. This open the doors for martian models Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: > Hi, > > One caveat with reveng to the seam app is that we dont currently have > support for detecting optimistic locking for the generated classes - > and I reckon it kinda breaks some of the seam logic. > > Do you think it is safe to auto-enable optlock for columns with the > name "version" and a primitive numeric type or should it be done > explicitly in reveng.xml ? > > I'm mostly for having a "Auto-detect optimistc locking columns" option > in the reverseengineering options ...and i'm also leaning towards > having it enabled by default (who don't use optimistic locking anyway > ;) > > There might be "quirks" in larger reveng situations where it should be > possible to enable/disable "autodetect optimistic locking" for certain > columns/tables. > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id865&op=click ___ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel
RE: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking
Why would it break Seam?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Max Rydahl Andersen Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:59 AM To: Hibernate development Subject: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking Hi, One caveat with reveng to the seam app is that we dont currently have support for detecting optimistic locking for the generated classes - and I reckon it kinda breaks some of the seam logic. Do you think it is safe to auto-enable optlock for columns with the name "version" and a primitive numeric type or should it be done explicitly in reveng.xml ? I'm mostly for having a "Auto-detect optimistc locking columns" option in the reverseengineering options ...and i'm also leaning towards having it enabled by default (who don't use optimistic locking anyway ;) There might be "quirks" in larger reveng situations where it should be possible to enable/disable "autodetect optimistic locking" for certain columns/tables. -- -- Max Rydahl Andersen callto://max.rydahl.andersen Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id865&op=click ___ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel
Re: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking
Can(t you write a pluggable guess strategy, like the namingstrategy but for guessing. This open the doors for martian models Sure and that is also my intention (done with everything else that implies "guessing" in reveng). The question is more if it should be default and if yes, what is a good default in this case. /max Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: Hi, One caveat with reveng to the seam app is that we dont currently have support for detecting optimistic locking for the generated classes - and I reckon it kinda breaks some of the seam logic. Do you think it is safe to auto-enable optlock for columns with the name "version" and a primitive numeric type or should it be done explicitly in reveng.xml ? I'm mostly for having a "Auto-detect optimistc locking columns" option in the reverseengineering options ...and i'm also leaning towards having it enabled by default (who don't use optimistic locking anyway ;) There might be "quirks" in larger reveng situations where it should be possible to enable/disable "autodetect optimistic locking" for certain columns/tables. -- -- Max Rydahl Andersen callto://max.rydahl.andersen Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel
Re: [Hibernate] reveng optimistic locking
Can(t you write a pluggable guess strategy, like the namingstrategy but for guessing. This open the doors for martian models Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: Hi, One caveat with reveng to the seam app is that we dont currently have support for detecting optimistic locking for the generated classes - and I reckon it kinda breaks some of the seam logic. Do you think it is safe to auto-enable optlock for columns with the name "version" and a primitive numeric type or should it be done explicitly in reveng.xml ? I'm mostly for having a "Auto-detect optimistc locking columns" option in the reverseengineering options ...and i'm also leaning towards having it enabled by default (who don't use optimistic locking anyway ;) There might be "quirks" in larger reveng situations where it should be possible to enable/disable "autodetect optimistic locking" for certain columns/tables. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click ___ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel
