RE: [Histonet] Cleaning oil off objectives

2009-08-21 Thread Pamela Marcum
Really like the taser idea!  I could have used that for several people over
the years.  

Pam Marcum

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rittman,
Barry R
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:36 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Cleaning oil off objectives

Adam
Hi
I would strongly recommend that the best approach is to train the people
using the microscope, everyone is trainable although for some this may be a
long learning curve.
The use of a taser with the later individuals is strongly recommended!

Several years ago the Zeiss representative in Iowa used the expanded plastic
packing beads to wipe off the excess oil as he said this was much more
absorbent for oil that lens tissue.
We have also seen the use of soft wood tips with oil that is encrusted on,
on the understanding that the wood is much softer than the lens.. Never
completely happy with that concept.
A lot depends on the type of lens that is being used.
Some lenses, especially older ones may have a coating that is easily damaged
even by Q tips.
I would use lens paper first (don't be cheap skate with the lens tissue)
then repeat using  a small amount of lens cleaner. The most difficult and
usually the most contaminated seem to be the 40 due to its working distance.
Most of the lens cleaners have isopropyl alcohol and some acetone. 
If it really does not get all the oil after repeating a couple of times then
can use acetone but don't flood the lens just use small amounts and wipe
across the face. Follow this with lens cleaner and lens paper.
Has always worked for me. This sounds a lengthy procedure but only takes a
couple of minutes.
Hope that this helps
Barry



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[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Adam .
[anonwu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:19 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Cleaning oil off objectives

Hi all,

You guys were so helpful on my last question, I'll ask another. We have a
microscope shared by the floor with several objectives, and it's pretty
common for the non-immersion objectives to get contaminated with oil. I
asked the guy who is responsible for the scope about this. He said that they
call someone from some company who carefully cleans the objectives with
acetone and a Q-tip, which if done right works wonders but if done wrong it
can damage the lenses. But he mentioned that the lenses are usually
re-contaminated within a few weeks since so many people use the scope, so
it's sort of a pointless endeavor. This system seems pretty silly to me... I
feel like there must be an easier and cheaper way to clean the lenses
without damaging them; I certainly don't want to be responsible for damaging
a microscope that costs more than my yearly salary. What do you recommend?

Thanks,
Adam
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[Histonet] Giardia

2009-08-21 Thread Laura Watzek
Calling for assistance.  Does anyone have a tissue block for Giardia control 
they are willing to donate, if so contact me off list. I tried NSH but they 
don't have any available.  
Thanks everyone and Happy Friday

Laura R. Watzek BSCT (ASCP)
Pathology Supervisor
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Re: RE: [Histonet] Evan's Blue - blood brain barrier

2009-08-21 Thread John Kiernan
Because most of it it dissolves.
 
John Kiernan 
Anatomy, UWO
London, Canada
= = =
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From: Connolly, Brett M brett_conno...@merck.com
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:27
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Evan's Blue - blood brain barrier
To: John Kiernan jkier...@uwo.ca


 Thanks for the history lesson...so why is EB not well suited for examination 
 on sections??
  
 Brett M. Connolly, Ph.D. 
 Research Fellow, Imaging Dept. 
 Merck  Co., Inc. 
 PO Box 4, WP-44K 
 West Point, PA 19486 
 tel. 215-652-2501 fax. 215-993-6803 
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 From: John Kiernan [mailto:jkier...@uwo.ca] 
 Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:24 PM
 To: Connolly, Brett M
 Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] Evan's Blue - blood brain barrier
 

 Evans blue (EB) and the closely similar dye trypan blue (TB) bind 
 non-covalently to proteins, notably albumin. The dye-protein complexes are 
 fluorescent. These dyes are OK for gross demonstration of regions with 
 permeable capillaries (neurohypophysis, area postrema etc) They are not well 
 suited to examination of sections, although EB was one of the first tracers 
 of retrograde axonal transport (Kristensson et al 1971 Brain Res. 32:399-406; 
 Kuypers et al 1977 Neurosci. Lett. 6:127-135). In early studies with trypan 
 blue the dye was administered chronically so that some of it ended up inside 
 cells. Quite detailed technical details were given by DF Cappell 1929 (J. 
 Path. Bact. 32:595-708). Clasen et al 1970 (J. Neuropath. Exp. Neurol. 
 29:266-284) took advantage of EB-albumin fluorescence in a histological study 
 of blood-brain barrier failure, but there are better tracers, depending on 
 the purpose of the investigation.
  
 John Kiernan
 Anatomy, UWO
 London, Canada
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 Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:19
 Subject: [Histonet] Evan's Blue - blood brain barrier
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 
  We will be infusing Evan's Blue to assess blood brain barrier 
  disruptionin some rats brains. The current plan is to follow 
  this with saline
  perfusion to clear the vasculature and then perfuse with fixative.
  Brains will then be sunk in sucrose and frozen for sectioning, 
  but I am
  wondering if anyone knows if Evan's Blue withstands processing to
  paraffin? 
  
  Thanks for any tips/ info, etc.
  
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[Histonet] refrigerating sliver and gold chloride??

2009-08-21 Thread Cheri Miller
I just noticed that my silver and gold chloride says to store at room temp now. 
I have always stored them in the refrigerator. Is anyone still doing this?? Old 
habits die hard. I want to know if this has caused any staining issues for 
anyone.

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RE: [Histonet] refrigerating sliver and gold chloride??

2009-08-21 Thread Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED)
I know when commercial Schiff's was no longer required to be kept
refrigerated I had my doubts but it worked fine.  I am guessing this
will be the same. 


Jeanine Bartlett
Infectious Diseases Pathology Branch
(404) 639-3590 
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Subject: [Histonet] refrigerating sliver and gold chloride??

I just noticed that my silver and gold chloride says to store at room
temp now. I have always stored them in the refrigerator. Is anyone still
doing this?? Old habits die hard. I want to know if this has caused any
staining issues for anyone.

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FW: [Histonet] clearing agent for gross specimens

2009-08-21 Thread Della Speranza, Vinnie


Vinnie Della Speranza
Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services
165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309
Charleston, SC 29425
tel. 843-792-6353
fax. 843-792-8974
 

-Original Message-
From: Shawn Leslie [mailto:lesl...@vetmed.ufl.edu] 
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:21 PM
To: Della Speranza, Vinnie
Subject: RE: [Histonet] clearing agent for gross specimens

Hi Vinnie,
We used to just use Glycerin...It would clear the fat quite
nicely.then the lymph nodes could be visualized

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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:16 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] clearing agent for gross specimens

I would appreciate hearing from anyone who routinely utilizes a clearing
agent in the gross room to clear fat from tissues to allow lymph nodes
to be visualized.

I am aware of Dissect Aid but would like to learn of other comparable
products. 
If individuals are using home made solutions are will to share their
formula I would appreciate receiving that information as well.

Our primary interest is speed of clearing for turnaround time reasons.

I am in the midst of a Histosearch search but it is slow going because
most discussions refer to tissue processing or staining so it's like
looking for a needle in a haystack


Thank you all

Vinnie Della Speranza
Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services
165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309
Charleston, SC 29425
tel. 843-792-6353
fax. 843-792-8974
 


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FW: [Histonet] clearing agent for gross specimens

2009-08-21 Thread Della Speranza, Vinnie


Vinnie Della Speranza
Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services
165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309
Charleston, SC 29425
tel. 843-792-6353
fax. 843-792-8974
 

-Original Message-
From: Jason McGough [mailto:jmcgo...@clinlab.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:25 PM
To: Della Speranza, Vinnie
Subject: RE: [Histonet] clearing agent for gross specimens

We use a home made solution that works very well for lymph node
visualization. Here is our formula:

5L ETOH
3.4L distilled water
1.6L 37-40% Formaldehyde
1L Glacial Acetic Acid

Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Jason McGough HT(ASCP)
Account Representative - Anatomic Pathology
Clinical Laboratory of the Black Hills
2805 5th Street Suite 210
Rapid City, SD 57701
605-343-2267 Ext 127
605-718-3779 (Fax)
jmcgo...@clinlab.com



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Speranza, Vinnie
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:16 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] clearing agent for gross specimens


I would appreciate hearing from anyone who routinely utilizes a clearing
agent in the gross room to clear fat from tissues to allow lymph nodes to be
visualized.

I am aware of Dissect Aid but would like to learn of other comparable
products.
If individuals are using home made solutions are will to share their formula
I would appreciate receiving that information as well.

Our primary interest is speed of clearing for turnaround time reasons.

I am in the midst of a Histosearch search but it is slow going because most
discussions refer to tissue processing or staining so it's like looking for
a needle in a haystack


Thank you all

Vinnie Della Speranza
Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services
165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309
Charleston, SC 29425
tel. 843-792-6353
fax. 843-792-8974



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RE: [Histonet] Cleaning oil off objectives

2009-08-21 Thread Va Paula Sicurello
I use a dog chewed old stick.

On another note,  how to clean off dried mounting media.  I have several 
objectives where some goombahs dragged the objectives through wet mounting 
media.

If y'all have any suggestions about removing dried mounting media.  Send them 
my way.  

4 of my 5 objectives are no longer objective after having their lenses clouded 
by the media.  ;-)


Paula 

Paula Sicurello
VA Medical Center San Diego
Veterans Medical Research Foundation (VMRF) 
Core for Micro Imaging(C-MI)
3350 La Jolla Village Dr., MC151
San Diego, CA 92161
858-552-8585 x2397

C-MI for your imaging needs.


--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Pamela Marcum mucra...@comcast.net wrote:

 From: Pamela Marcum mucra...@comcast.net
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Cleaning oil off objectives
 To: 'Rittman, Barry R' barry.r.ritt...@uth.tmc.edu, 
 histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 12:43 PM
 Really like the taser idea!  I
 could have used that for several people over
 the years.  
 
 Pam Marcum
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
 On Behalf Of Rittman,
 Barry R
 Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:36 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Cleaning oil off objectives
 
 Adam
 Hi
 I would strongly recommend that the best approach is to
 train the people
 using the microscope, everyone is trainable although for
 some this may be a
 long learning curve.
 The use of a taser with the later individuals is strongly
 recommended!
 
 Several years ago the Zeiss representative in Iowa used the
 expanded plastic
 packing beads to wipe off the excess oil as he said this
 was much more
 absorbent for oil that lens tissue.
 We have also seen the use of soft wood tips with oil that
 is encrusted on,
 on the understanding that the wood is much softer than the
 lens.. Never
 completely happy with that concept.
 A lot depends on the type of lens that is being used.
 Some lenses, especially older ones may have a coating that
 is easily damaged
 even by Q tips.
 I would use lens paper first (don't be cheap skate with the
 lens tissue)
 then repeat using  a small amount of lens cleaner. The
 most difficult and
 usually the most contaminated seem to be the 40 due to its
 working distance.
 Most of the lens cleaners have isopropyl alcohol and some
 acetone. 
 If it really does not get all the oil after repeating a
 couple of times then
 can use acetone but don't flood the lens just use small
 amounts and wipe
 across the face. Follow this with lens cleaner and lens
 paper.
 Has always worked for me. This sounds a lengthy procedure
 but only takes a
 couple of minutes.
 Hope that this helps
 Barry
 
 
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
 On Behalf Of Adam .
 [anonwu...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:19 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] Cleaning oil off objectives
 
 Hi all,
 
 You guys were so helpful on my last question, I'll ask
 another. We have a
 microscope shared by the floor with several objectives, and
 it's pretty
 common for the non-immersion objectives to get contaminated
 with oil. I
 asked the guy who is responsible for the scope about this.
 He said that they
 call someone from some company who carefully cleans the
 objectives with
 acetone and a Q-tip, which if done right works wonders but
 if done wrong it
 can damage the lenses. But he mentioned that the lenses are
 usually
 re-contaminated within a few weeks since so many people use
 the scope, so
 it's sort of a pointless endeavor. This system seems pretty
 silly to me... I
 feel like there must be an easier and cheaper way to clean
 the lenses
 without damaging them; I certainly don't want to be
 responsible for damaging
 a microscope that costs more than my yearly salary. What do
 you recommend?
 
 Thanks,
 Adam
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[Histonet] FW: clearing agent for gross specimens

2009-08-21 Thread Della Speranza, Vinnie


Vinnie Della Speranza
Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services
165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309
Charleston, SC 29425
tel. 843-792-6353
fax. 843-792-8974
 

-Original Message-
From: Cazares, Ruth [mailto:rcaza...@schosp.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:58 PM
To: Della Speranza, Vinnie
Subject: RE: clearing agent for gross specimens

Vinnie,

We make our own Davidson's fixative, and we also tried Dissect Aid. Comparing 
the two, our PA and our pathologists liked the homemade Davidsons fixative 
better than the Dissect Aid.


Ruth Cazares, HT (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Department of Pathology
Swedish Covenant Hospital
5145 North California Ave
Chicago, IL 60625

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Della Speranza, 
Vinnie
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:16 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] clearing agent for gross specimens

I would appreciate hearing from anyone who routinely utilizes a clearing agent 
in the gross room to clear fat from tissues to allow lymph nodes to be 
visualized.

I am aware of Dissect Aid but would like to learn of other comparable products.
If individuals are using home made solutions are will to share their formula I 
would appreciate receiving that information as well.

Our primary interest is speed of clearing for turnaround time reasons.

I am in the midst of a Histosearch search but it is slow going because most 
discussions refer to tissue processing or staining so it's like looking for a 
needle in a haystack


Thank you all

Vinnie Della Speranza
Manager for Anatomic Pathology Services
165 Ashley Avenue Suite 309
Charleston, SC 29425
tel. 843-792-6353
fax. 843-792-8974



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[Histonet] Re: clearing agent for gross specimens

2009-08-21 Thread Robert Richmond
Vinnie Della Speranza in Charleston SC asks:

I would appreciate hearing from anyone who routinely utilizes a
clearing agent in the gross room to clear fat from tissues to allow
lymph nodes to be visualized.

I am aware of Dissect Aid but would like to learn of other comparable products.
If individuals are using home made solutions are will to share their
formula I would appreciate receiving that information as well.

Our primary interest is speed of clearing for turnaround time reasons.

I am in the midst of a Histosearch search but it is slow going because
most discussions refer to tissue processing or staining so it's like
looking for a needle in a haystack.
*
Most of the proprietary mixes such as Dissect-Aid and O-Fix contain
varying amounts of water, alcohol, formaldehyde, and acetic acid. As
John Kiernan pointed out some time ago, these formulas aren't very
rational. I've had good luck with both Dissect-Aid and O-Fix. When I
make my own clearing fixative, I make Davidson's fixative: 3 parts
water, 3 parts reagent alcohol, 2 parts 37% formaldehyde, 1 part
glacial acetic acid.

An obvious point often missed: you cannot post-fix. The tissues must
go into the clearing fixative before the neutral buffered formalin the
specimen arrives in has time to penetrate, a few hours but not longer.
The clearing fixative needs several hours to work, preferably
overnight, particularly since such specimens usually arrive late in
the day. The fatty lymph node bearing tissue needs to be cut up so
that the fixative will penetrate it.

Clearing fixatives are most useful with colon resections for cancer.
Mesenteric lymph nodes are often small, and very small lymph nodes
often contain metastatic colon cancer. These tiny metastases determine
treatment: chemotherapy is indicated if lymph nodes are positive.
(It's amazing that, with so much riding on it, how little attention is
paid to these details.)

In my limited experience, clearing fixatives are useful with radical
neck dissection specimens.

I don't find clearing fixatives necessary with axillary tissue removed
in the treatment of breast cancer, and the fixatives may interfere
with the immunostains often used with axillary nodes. Most
pahtologists I've spoken with about this agree with me.

I think there's a good bit of material about this in the Histonet
archives - try searching Davidson's fixative.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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AW: [Histonet] C4D Antibody

2009-08-21 Thread Gudrun Lang
We work with the Benchmark XT, ultraview kit (polymer), CC1 retrieval (pH
8-9) 30 min, C4d from Zytomed 1:25 32min, with amplification.
Gudrun Lang
Akh Linz, Austria

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Betreff: [Histonet] C4D Antibody

Just wondering if anyone out there routinely works with 
C4d. I was wondering what you use for retrieval and the 
Type of detection kit you use.

Thanks.
Kwadwo Kwaa.

BIDMC 
Pathology Department
IHC
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AW: [Histonet] Re: clearing agent for gross specimens

2009-08-21 Thread Gudrun Lang

A question about the practical grossing of colons with clearing fixative. Do
you put the whole colon in the clearing fixative? Or do you cut the
mesocolon off and fix it seperated and let the colon itself in NBF?

Gudrun


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An: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Betreff: [Histonet] Re: clearing agent for gross specimens

Vinnie Della Speranza in Charleston SC asks:

I would appreciate hearing from anyone who routinely utilizes a
clearing agent in the gross room to clear fat from tissues to allow
lymph nodes to be visualized.

I am aware of Dissect Aid but would like to learn of other comparable
products.
If individuals are using home made solutions are will to share their
formula I would appreciate receiving that information as well.

Our primary interest is speed of clearing for turnaround time reasons.

I am in the midst of a Histosearch search but it is slow going because
most discussions refer to tissue processing or staining so it's like
looking for a needle in a haystack.
*
Most of the proprietary mixes such as Dissect-Aid and O-Fix contain
varying amounts of water, alcohol, formaldehyde, and acetic acid. As
John Kiernan pointed out some time ago, these formulas aren't very
rational. I've had good luck with both Dissect-Aid and O-Fix. When I
make my own clearing fixative, I make Davidson's fixative: 3 parts
water, 3 parts reagent alcohol, 2 parts 37% formaldehyde, 1 part
glacial acetic acid.

An obvious point often missed: you cannot post-fix. The tissues must
go into the clearing fixative before the neutral buffered formalin the
specimen arrives in has time to penetrate, a few hours but not longer.
The clearing fixative needs several hours to work, preferably
overnight, particularly since such specimens usually arrive late in
the day. The fatty lymph node bearing tissue needs to be cut up so
that the fixative will penetrate it.

Clearing fixatives are most useful with colon resections for cancer.
Mesenteric lymph nodes are often small, and very small lymph nodes
often contain metastatic colon cancer. These tiny metastases determine
treatment: chemotherapy is indicated if lymph nodes are positive.
(It's amazing that, with so much riding on it, how little attention is
paid to these details.)

In my limited experience, clearing fixatives are useful with radical
neck dissection specimens.

I don't find clearing fixatives necessary with axillary tissue removed
in the treatment of breast cancer, and the fixatives may interfere
with the immunostains often used with axillary nodes. Most
pahtologists I've spoken with about this agree with me.

I think there's a good bit of material about this in the Histonet
archives - try searching Davidson's fixative.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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[Histonet] C4d

2009-08-21 Thread kkwaa
Thx Everyone for your input on C4D..I'm running it right now.

Trying new things and special thx to Sally Drew.

Kwadwo kwaa
BIDMC
Pathology Department
617-667-5769
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[Histonet] flex kits

2009-08-21 Thread Horn, Hazel V
If any of you are using the flex kits from Dako I would appreciate  your
feedback on what you think about them good and/or bad.   

 

Hazel Horn

Hazel Horn, HT/HTL (ASCP)

Supervisor of Histology

Arkansas Children's Hospital

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[Histonet] Re: clearing agent for gross specimens

2009-08-21 Thread Robert Richmond
Gudrun Lang in Austria asks a question about grossing colons I should
have addressed earlier:

A question about the practical grossing of colons with clearing fixative. Do 
you put the whole colon in the clearing fixative? Or do you cut the mesocolon 
off and fix it separated and put the colon itself in NBF?

You detach the mesenteries, cut them into fairly thin slices, and put
the slices in the clearing fixative. The rest of the colon is fixed in
neutral buffered formalin, pinned to a board if possible. Both should
be fixed overnight. Epiploic appendages and other non-mesenteric fat
can be put in the formalin and not further dissected.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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Re: [Histonet] refrigerating sliver and gold chloride??

2009-08-21 Thread John Kiernan
There was never any reason to refrigerate gold chloride or silver nitrate. 
These compounds (solid or dissolved) can be kept for many years at room 
temperature. 
 
If the solutions are used repeatedly they eventually deteriorate from 
contamination with bits of sections, causing a changed appearance. Gold 
solutions take on a greenish grey hue and flakes of metallic gold eventually 
settle out. These can easily be recovered and recycled to make gold chloride 
(HAuCl4) again. Clean gold chloride solutions keep for ever. I have a few 
bottles of 0.5% that are still that beautiful yellow colour after about 25 
years.
 
Old silver nitrate looks a bit grey, not completely colourless. Re-purifying in 
a histology lab isn't really feasible. You can precipitate out and collect the 
silver, but (strangely) refining companies don't want it. Your message 
mentioned silver and gold chloride. I don't know a histological use for 
silver chloride, which is very sensitive to light - goes grey-violet as you 
look at it. 
 
John Kiernan
Anatomy, UWO
London, Canada
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Date: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:10
Subject: [Histonet] refrigerating sliver and gold chloride??
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 I just noticed that my silver and gold chloride says to store at 
 room temp now. I have always stored them in the refrigerator. Is 
 anyone still doing this?? Old habits die hard. I want to know if 
 this has caused any staining issues for anyone.
 
 Cheryl Miller HT (ASCP)
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 Physicians Laboratory,P.C.
 Omaha, Ne.
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