[Histonet] indian ink- thank you

2009-09-21 Thread Dr. Frauke Neff

Dear everyone,
I just wanted to thank you for all the tips concerning the use of  
indian ink. They helped a lot!


Vielen Dank,

Frauke









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[Histonet] Re: Harris hematoxylin weak staining

2009-09-21 Thread Johnson, Teri
Aazath,

There are several strategies you can use to improve your hematoxylin staining.

1 - use distilled or DI water before putting your slides into the stain. 
Sometimes the chemicals/minerals/metals in the tap water can weaken your stain.
2 - replace your stains when they start showing signs of weakening, or 
routinely in order to keep the quality even.
3 - try using more than one bucket/dish of hematoxylin and split the total 
staining time between them. Then you can rotate the last one up to the first 
position, and put a new change in the second station. This might help keep your 
staining more consistent.
4 - does your tap water seem to contain a high level of chlorine? If so, you 
can use a bluing agent to blue your stained slides, and then use DI or 
distilled water rinses.
5 - do not linger in the decolorizing acid alcohol. Usually one quick dip 
followed by an immediate plunge into water is all you need.
6 - some have reported that their eosin, if the pH drops too low, can leach out 
some of the hematoxylin. According to Carson, the ideal pH of eosin is between 
4.6 and 5.
7 - what thickness is your tissue? 3 microns thin tissue needs longer in the 
stain solution than 5 microns thin tissue.

There may be others that folks will chime in with, but these are the most 
obvious ones to me.

Good luck!

Teri Johnson, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Managing Director Histology Facility
Stowers Institute for Medical Research
1000 E. 50th St.
Kansas City, MO 64110


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Re: [Histonet] Re: Harris hematoxylin weak staining

2009-09-21 Thread Pamela Marcum



If you bleach your staining dishes they must be rinsed to excess or some bleach 
may remain in the container and effect you staining as it leaches into the 
solution.  Check to be sure everyone takes the time to do this as I have had an 
issue where one or more people in the lab were more careful tham others about 
this step.  



Using Harris requires filtering so the type of filter paper can also cause an 
issue.  Use a more porous paper. 



Pam Marcum 


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From: Teri Johnson  TJJ @ stowers .org 
To:  histonet   histonet @lists. utsouthwestern . edu  
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:57:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [ Histonet ] Re: Harris hematoxylin weak staining 

Aazath , 

There are several strategies you can use to improve your hematoxylin staining. 

1 - use distilled or DI water before putting your slides into the stain. 
Sometimes the chemicals/minerals/metals in the tap water can weaken your stain. 
2 - replace your stains when they start showing signs of weakening, or 
routinely in order to keep the quality even. 
3 - try using more than one bucket/dish of hematoxylin and split the total 
staining time between them. Then you can rotate the last one up to the first 
position, and put a new change in the second station. This might help keep your 
staining more consistent. 
4 - does your tap water seem to contain a high level of chlorine? If so, you 
can use a bluing agent to blue your stained slides, and then use DI or 
distilled water rinses. 
5 - do not linger in the decolorizing acid alcohol. Usually one quick dip 
followed by an immediate plunge into water is all you need. 
6 - some have reported that their eosin , if the pH drops too low, can leach 
out some of the hematoxylin . According to Carson, the ideal pH of eosin is 
between 4.6 and 5. 
7 - what thickness is your tissue? 3 microns thin tissue needs longer in the 
stain solution than 5 microns thin tissue. 

There may be others that folks will chime in with, but these are the most 
obvious ones to me. 

Good luck! 

Teri Johnson, HT( ASCP ) QIHC 
Managing Director Histology Facility 
Stowers Institute for Medical Research 
1000 E. 50th St. 
Kansas City, MO 64110 


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[Histonet] Prostate processing

2009-09-21 Thread karen adams
Prostate Laboratories.Would you PLEASE fax us a copy of your processing
protocol???  We would be SO greatful.  Alsocurious to know if you are
utilizing IBF fixative and if you have had to change staining times as some
of our pathologists are saying staining is too pale compared to formalin
fixed H  E.

Thank you, Thank you

-- 
K. Leigh Adams, MS, HTL (ASCP)
Histology Laboratory
Tennessee Urology Associates
800 Oak Ridge TPKE/STE A206
Oak Ridge, TN 37830
(865) 483-1800
FAX (865) 482-2001
kadams...@gmail.com
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[Histonet] Workload value of whole mount embedding and cutting

2009-09-21 Thread Whitaker, Bonnie
Hi Histonetters,

Could someone that does whole mount specimens share how you count them for
workload purposes, as compared to reqular embedding and cutting?  (Prostates
are the only thing that we currently do as whole mount specimens.)

Thanks!

Bonnie Whitaker
Clinical Histology Manager
Ohio State University Medical Center
614.293.5048

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Re: [Histonet] Workload value of whole mount embedding and cutting

2009-09-21 Thread Rene J Buesa
I used to assign to each whole prostate block the equivalent of 3 blocks while 
embedding and 10 blocks when cutting with our sledge microtome.
René J.

--- On Mon, 9/21/09, Whitaker, Bonnie bonnie.whita...@osumc.edu wrote:


From: Whitaker, Bonnie bonnie.whita...@osumc.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Workload value of whole mount embedding and cutting
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 12:19 PM


Hi Histonetters,

Could someone that does whole mount specimens share how you count them for
workload purposes, as compared to reqular embedding and cutting?  (Prostates
are the only thing that we currently do as whole mount specimens.)

Thanks!

Bonnie Whitaker
Clinical Histology Manager
Ohio State University Medical Center
614.293.5048

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[Histonet] bone marrow assisting?

2009-09-21 Thread Inman, Anna
 

 I am looking for some info on technique at bone marrow procedures? 

 

Are aspirates being dropped from the syringe onto the slides or onto a
petri dish and only marrow with spicules transferred to slides or
something else? ??

 

Is the syringe heparanized?? 

 

Thank you in advance

Anna

 

 

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[Histonet] Re: bone marrow assisting?

2009-09-21 Thread Robert Richmond
Anna Inman at St. Mary's Hospital, Grand Junction CO asks:

I am looking for some info on technique at bone marrow procedures. - Are 
aspirates being dropped from the syringe onto the slides or onto a petri dish 
and only marrow with spicules transferred to slides or something else? ?? - 
Is the syringe heparinized??

If you don't know how to do this, it's your pathologist's job to teach
you how. Grump.

We're talking about a posterior iliac crest biopsy, with a core of
bone and a syringe full of marrow particles (not spicules) and blood.

There are a lot of ways to do this. A very simple method: set a glass
slide at about a 15 degree slant. Squirt some of the specimen out of
the syringe onto the high end of the slide. The blood will run down
the slide, leaving the marrow particles loosely adhering to the slide.
Pick up particles one at a time, using a wooden applicator stick
broken with the grain to form a tiny flat scoop. Spread and smear each
particle between two slides or square coverslips, for as many slides
as you want.

Heparin isn't needed, and may damage the specimen. If you use it, use
only a very small quantity.

The remaining specimen may be allowed to clot in the syringe, removed,
and fixed for clot sections. I prefer to squirt the remainder of the
specimen, not yet clotted, into neutral buffered formalin, and later
filter the fixed particles out and embed them in a paraffin block. Why
look at (or cut?) all that clot?

The person performing the marrow biopsy should not be the same person
who does the preparation - it's a two person job.

If you don't see any particles on the slide, inform the person doing
the aspiration so they can repeat the aspiration. (Some biopsy-ers
never quite get the hang of this.) Don't B.S. me - if I haven't got
any marrow particles, I want to know!

While tracking down stmarygj I found that the hospital has an
institute inspired by Geno Saccomanno, the inventor of the well-known
cytology fixative.
http://www.stmarygj.com/body.cfm?id=61

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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[Histonet] bone marrow assisting?

2009-09-21 Thread Lecorchick, William
The current protocol that we follow here is as follows:  Two green tops are 
obtained first thing for Flow and Cyto followed by eight smears, from that same 
syringe then draw air in and place on its side allow a clot to form. From the 
bone bx make a touch prep rolling the bone between two slides prior to dropping 
the bone in 10%NBF all slides are air dried. You can pick out the best slide 
for iron and the rest get a Giemsa stain.
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[Histonet] OT: Early Friday Hour of Fuming

2009-09-21 Thread Breeden, Sara
I have just found out this morning that I will be unable to attend NSH
this year.  This alone is unfortunate news for me but, interestingly
enough, is not due to budget issues.  The reason I am fuming this
morning is not because there is no funding for my attendance (that was
already in place), but because there is such a serious shortage of
histotechs in this country that there is no one to cover me!  A
traveler is out of the question (that's a budget issue!); anyone that
might be hiding and is not known to me to be available in our city would
have to have about a month's lead time to get vetted for the position
through the State.  Anyone that thinks that histology is not important
should try to fill a position when there is such a shortage of trained
and qualified technicians.   If we, as histologists, do not begin to
make ourselves more visible and promote our profession as a worthy,
fulfilling and job-secure life, more and more of us will find ourselves
in this position. Thank you - I feel better for having Fumed.  There is
no need to reply as I know many of us are in the same boat.  I was in
the boat and lost my paddle!

 

Sally Breeden, HT(ASCP)

NM Dept. of Agriculture

Veterinary Diagnostic Services

PO Box 4700

Albuquerque, NM  87106

505-841-2576

 

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[Histonet] Ultra fast pap stain protocol

2009-09-21 Thread Lynette Pavelich
Hello,
Does anyone have a protocol for the Ultra-fast pap stain used on FNA's??
 

Thanks for your help,  Lynette

Lynette Pavelich, HT(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
MSH Competency Coordinator
Hurley Medical Center
One Hurley Plaza
Flint, MI  48503
email: lpave...@hurleymc.com
ph:  810-257-9948
fax:  810-762-7082

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[Histonet] Night Blue for AFB

2009-09-21 Thread Marcia Fisher
Does anyone know where to purchase the dye Night Blue?  I used this stain for 
AFB many years ago (1986) and would like to introduce it here.  Thank you.
 
M. Fisher
El Centro Regional Medical Center
El Centro, CA  
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[Histonet] RE: OT: Early Friday Hour of Fuming

2009-09-21 Thread Roberta Horner
That's alright whenever I take vacation I come back to all the work sitting 
here waiting for me.  I just took 2 weeks off and it took 3 weeks to catch up 
so I feel your pain.
Roberta Horner
Penn State University
Animal Diagnostic Lab

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Breeden, Sara
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:23 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] OT: Early Friday Hour of Fuming

I have just found out this morning that I will be unable to attend NSH
this year.  This alone is unfortunate news for me but, interestingly
enough, is not due to budget issues.  The reason I am fuming this
morning is not because there is no funding for my attendance (that was
already in place), but because there is such a serious shortage of
histotechs in this country that there is no one to cover me!  A
traveler is out of the question (that's a budget issue!); anyone that
might be hiding and is not known to me to be available in our city would
have to have about a month's lead time to get vetted for the position
through the State.  Anyone that thinks that histology is not important
should try to fill a position when there is such a shortage of trained
and qualified technicians.   If we, as histologists, do not begin to
make ourselves more visible and promote our profession as a worthy,
fulfilling and job-secure life, more and more of us will find ourselves
in this position. Thank you - I feel better for having Fumed.  There is
no need to reply as I know many of us are in the same boat.  I was in
the boat and lost my paddle!

 

Sally Breeden, HT(ASCP)

NM Dept. of Agriculture

Veterinary Diagnostic Services

PO Box 4700

Albuquerque, NM  87106

505-841-2576

 

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RE: [Histonet] bone marrow assisting?

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Pence
Same here!

Mike

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Lecorchick, William
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:50 PM
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] bone marrow assisting?


The current protocol that we follow here is as follows:  Two green tops
are obtained first thing for Flow and Cyto followed by eight smears,
from that same syringe then draw air in and place on its side allow a
clot to form. From the bone bx make a touch prep rolling the bone
between two slides prior to dropping the bone in 10%NBF all slides are
air dried. You can pick out the best slide for iron and the rest get a
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[Histonet] Separation Artifact

2009-09-21 Thread thecitan
Hello histonet!

I'm trying to figure out the cause of some artifact in my ffpe he skin slides. 
Every once and a while I get a batch of slides with this strange separation 
artifact mostly around melanocytes. Its like there is a space around each 
cell(s). Also the collagen seems to have some odd stretching.

I tried recuting to make sure there was no microtomy issues but the artifact 
remains. I check my waterbath temp / soaked the blocks. Not soaked the blocks. 
I'm at a loss. This happens to entire processing batch. The doctors say they 
are still pathologically readable but I still want to find a way to fix this.
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RE: [Histonet] Separation Artifact

2009-09-21 Thread Tony Henwood
Dear theci...@yahoo.com (whoever this is)

I would suggest that to fix the problem, make sure you fix the tissues.

Shrinkage is often due to alcohol fixation rather than formal fixation

Regards

Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC)
Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist
Tel: 612 9845 3306
Fax: 612 9845 3318
the children's hospital at westmead 
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead 
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA 




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Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 6:27 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Separation Artifact


Hello histonet!

I'm trying to figure out the cause of some artifact in my ffpe he skin
slides. Every once and a while I get a batch of slides with this strange
separation artifact mostly around melanocytes. Its like there is a space
around each cell(s). Also the collagen seems to have some odd
stretching.

I tried recuting to make sure there was no microtomy issues but the
artifact remains. I check my waterbath temp / soaked the blocks. Not
soaked the blocks. I'm at a loss. This happens to entire processing
batch. The doctors say they are still pathologically readable but I
still want to find a way to fix this. Sent from my Verizon Wireless
BlackBerry


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