[Histonet] Cryostat vs decal sections of bone

2010-05-10 Thread louise renton
Hi all,

last year sometime I was asked to budget for some equipment for our unit.
Not expecting to get anything i aimed high, and requested a cryostat and
cryoJane system.
Lo and behold, the planetary influences were just right, and my request was
approved. Now, I've got cold feet (pardon the pun) and I'm wondering if
there *are*  any distinct advantages of cryosections of bone over
demineralised wax embedded samples in regards to immuno and in-situ ?.

-- 
Louise Renton
Bone Research Unit
University of the Witwatersrand
Johannesburg
South Africa
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Re: [Histonet] IgG4 source

2010-05-10 Thread Heather McCleod
I have used invitrogen - mouse anti-human IgG4 Clone HP6025  (successfully)
AR in 1mm EDTA  Dilution 1:400
Control - tonsil  (or Sjogren's Syndrome)

 Joao Pessoa jphistol...@gmail.com 2010/05/07 11:50 PM 
I need to find a source for an IgG4 antibody for use with IHC studies on
human FFPE tissue.  Any ideas?  My preference would be for a
concentrated IVD.

Thanks,

Joao
Histo Tech
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[Histonet] Number of Techs

2010-05-10 Thread Jason Keller
Hello,

 

I am looking to compile information on the average number of techs that
different hospitals have in their histology labs.  I would appreciate
any feedback that I could get as far as how many techs are used to run
hospital histology labs with a block count range of 200 to 400 blocks
per day. 

 

Thanks for any input you can provide,

 

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Re: [Histonet] Cryostat vs decal sections of bone

2010-05-10 Thread Rene J Buesa
Most definitely there are differences.
Just consider that the bone will not be subjected to any chemicals because 
neither fixation nor demineralization will be required.,
René J.

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From: louise renton louise.ren...@gmail.com
Subject: [Histonet] Cryostat vs decal sections of bone
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 4:19 AM


Hi all,

last year sometime I was asked to budget for some equipment for our unit.
Not expecting to get anything i aimed high, and requested a cryostat and
cryoJane system.
Lo and behold, the planetary influences were just right, and my request was
approved. Now, I've got cold feet (pardon the pun) and I'm wondering if
there *are*  any distinct advantages of cryosections of bone over
demineralised wax embedded samples in regards to immuno and in-situ ?.

-- 
Louise Renton
Bone Research Unit
University of the Witwatersrand
Johannesburg
South Africa
+27 11 717 2298 (tel  fax)
073 5574456 (emergencies only)
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[Histonet] Re: Bone Frozen sections versus decalcified bone in paraffin

2010-05-10 Thread gayle callis
Louise, 

 

You wrote:  last year sometime I was asked to budget for some equipment for
our unit.Not expecting to get anything i aimed high, and requested a
cryostat and cryoJane system.

Lo and behold, the planetary influences were just right, and my request was
approved. Now, I've got cold feet (pardon the pun) and I'm wondering if
there *are*  any distinct advantages of cryosections of bone over

demineralised wax embedded samples in regards to immuno and in-situ ?.

 

Yes there are distinct advantages for using Cryojane.   Undecalcifed bone
frozen sections are done in our lab in order to do immunostaining, either
enzyme immunohistochemistry or immunofluorescence work on fresh undecalcifed
bone frozen sections, especially when murine CD markers and GFP are
compromised by aldehyde fixatives (PFA or NBF), acid decalcification, or
aldehyde induced autofluorescence when working with GFP .  There are ways to
get around the autofluorescence  problem.  We use Cryojane for all
undecalcifed bone frozen sections, but also section other very difficult
frozen tissues.  There are times using FFPE/decalcified bone is not going to
stain successfully for either immuno or ISH methods IF the antigens are
compromised by either mentioned methods, plus heat from paraffin processing.
Cryojane is our backup method when things go awry, and our method of choice
with most GFP work with murine nasal turbinates.Trying to do free hand
frozen sections on undecalcified bone was an unsuccessful nightmare, very
time consuming with terrible results (crunched up bone sections).Our
problem has been too many murine CD markers we work with only stain on fresh
frozen sections after solvent fixation.  If most of your antigens (or ISH)
stain successfully with decalcified, FFPE sections, then you may not need
Cryojane but that is something you have to work out.  We find Cryojane a
necessity for our work.

 

One can decalcify bone prior to fixation Mori et al then cut frozen
sections, fix and stain - a long drawn out procedure for IHC.  There are
others who have success on undecalcifed bone frozen sections ( Kusser et al
with excellent references)  Both of these publications are now freely
accessible in  J Histochem Cytochem.  ISH is more difficult on acid
decalcified bone, where EDTA may have to be used for FFPE.  There are some
excellent publications on using decalcified bone (marrow) with ISH, the most
recent from Gudrun Lang in Journal of Histotechnology, March 2010 describing
kappa and lambda ISH on acid bone marrow biopsies.   She listed several
excellent references on ISH/IHC for FFPE bone samples.   Gudrun participates
on Histonet and should be able to drop a pdf of this publication to you.  I
have also done PLP fixed, EDTA decalcified bone, sucrose cryoprotected bone
frozen sections mounted on Plus Charge slides, but prefixed bone frozen
sections often release from the slide surface during staining. That is the
joy of Cryojane, no release.  Working with the instrument takes some
practice, and there is an excellent publication by John Tarpley in J of
Histotechnology for doing this.  

 

Cryojane is unique but be sure it fits in your cryostat before purchase.
There is the Kawamoto tape method for bone frozen sections, but it requires
purchasing a knife holder, and I believe,  special knives.  The section is
NOT transferred to a slide, but remains on the tape where all staining takes
place, then mount the tape onto a slide in a special way.  Those who use it
acquire beautiful staining results for both IHC and ISH.  This method has
been around for awhile and you have to purchase all the accessories and
tapes from a company in Japan.  I know that Jamie Erickson is using this and
has also worked with Cryojane.   Hopefully Jamie is looking in and can
comment.  

 

Good luck, 

 

Gayle M. Callis

HTL/HT/MT(ASCP)   

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

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[Histonet] Protocol Needed for Processing Previously Snap Frozen Tissue

2010-05-10 Thread Neely, Tanisha
Hello Histo-Netters:
 
Does anyone have a protocol for post processing (FFPE) frozen tissue
samples?
 
Tanisha Neely HT(ASCP)
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RE: SPAM-LOW: [Histonet] Loss of tissue sections after antigenretrieval

2010-05-10 Thread Kelsey Jones
Patsy is correct, there is a very good chance the retrieval is the
issue. Another possible issue is the drying time. We find often times
with tissue loss we can remedy that with extended drying times. If we
get precut slides from an outside source, we dry them for 2 hours in a
58 degree oven to be cautious. 

Kelsey Jones
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Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: [Histonet] Loss of tissue sections after
antigenretrieval

Joe,

Did you buy an array that was not cut with the tape transfer system and
put
onto polymer coated slides?  If they had done that your tissues would
not
fall off, not sure of what to do after the fact, but you could certainly
try
a more gentle antigen retrieval technique such as waterbath (not sure of
what you are using as your heat source?)  sounds like your retrieval
method
is too harsh.

Patsy

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Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 1:32 PM
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Subject: SPAM-LOW: [Histonet] Loss of tissue sections after antigen
retrieval

Hi All,
We have a problem. We are using a commercial tissue array and we find
that
the two most important tissues are lost during antigen retrieval. The
tissues are samples of glioblastomas and are critical to our study. The
antigen retrieval system we use is a proprietary 2 step system using a
hi
and lo pH. Both Ca chelators. Does anyone have suggestions about how we
can
prevent tissue loss 
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[Histonet] Re: Cryostat vs decal sections of bone

2010-05-10 Thread Johnson, Teri
Hi Louise,

Remember me? It's been a while.

You asked if there were distinct advantages to using cryosections of bone over 
decalcified wax samples for IHC and ISH and the answer is yes, of course. Some 
antibodies and probes just won't work well in paraffin processed samples, 
either due to the decalcification process or the alcohol/solvent exposure. The 
ISH purists know that just paraffin processing can diminish signal greatly. 
Having said that, obtaining excellent sections of undecalcified, fresh frozen 
bone is tricky. Very tricky indeed, and what works one day doesn't work the 
next. You'll need to have at least one tungsten carbide knife for it, so make 
sure you also get the regular blade holder. I don't know if you still use steel 
knives on the cryostat, and if so you'll already have the correct blade holder, 
but we use disposables so we needed to order a separate one.

We've had pretty good luck getting beautiful sections of fixed and decalcified 
cryosections and the cryojane, and this would work well for samples that just 
flat don't like paraffin processing but the antibody staining does ok with 
formalin and formic acid treatment. Having the system opens up this possibility 
for your studies as well.

Best wishes always,

Teri Johnson, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Managing Director, Histology Facility
Stowers Institute for Medical Research
Kansas City, MO


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[Histonet] per deim work

2010-05-10 Thread richard shook
Hello Histoland 

I have question pertaining to temporary histology tech work/per Diem 
positions.I find myself currently out of work and am looking for my next 
adventure in  the great world of histology and one of the ideas i had was to 
check out the possibility's of doing temp work.The only thing is I'm not sure 
if there is a temp agency for histo techs,or is there someone in histo land 
that currently working as a temp . I would greatly appreciate any help in my 
endeavors into this new world. Any information as to how much the pay rate or 
what to charge for daily work travel lodging or any other expenses that would 
be incurred in this type of work.

Thanks for any help
Richard Shook HT(ASCP)




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[Histonet] Bone marrow smear staining

2010-05-10 Thread Lynette Pavelich
Need Histonet help.  Hematology recently purchased a new blood smear
stainer that is producing variable staining.  It is especially bad with
the bone marrow smears, even when it is run through twice as was the
norm with the old stainer (now gone).  
Until this is resolved, does anyone have a GOOD MANUAL wright-giemsa
staining protocol you would like to share?  Our pathologists are quite
frustrated.  They do not care for the May-Grunwald Giemsa that we do
manually for our hematology oncologists.

thank you for your quick responses!!
Lynette

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Histology Supervisor
Hurley Medical Center
One Hurley Plaza
Flint, MI  48503
email: lpave...@hurleymc.com
ph:  810-257-9948
Lab:  810-257-9138
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[Histonet] Curling floating mouse brains

2010-05-10 Thread Julie Ritchie
Hello everyone.  

I am slicing mouse brains that were perfused with 4% paraformaldehdye in
PBS, then sunk in 30% sucrose in PBS.  I want to cut the brains in 40 um
sections, collect in wells of PBS, and do IHC.  BUT my sections keep curling
into little cannolis (or even tighter, like those pirouette cookies).  

Just a few weeks ago I sectioned 24 rat brains in this manner without any
problem at all.  I did the perfusions for all of these animals, so it is not
an issue of inadequate perfusion.  

I asked someone if it could be related to size of tissue (mouse vs. rat),
and it was suggested that 30% scucrose was too high for mouse brains, so I
melted them out of frozen OCT (kept in a frig overnight in PBS), resunk
brains in 20% sucrose/PBS and refroze in OCT again.  They did indeed slice
better at this conc of sucrose (no streaks, shredding, etc. when slicing)
but the brains sure did curl still in the PBS!!! I thought the sections were
too thick, so dropped to 30 um, and still there is curling.  Even 20 um
sections curl up in the PBS.  

It is not a humidity problem, or a blade problem, for I have tried to cut on
another machine, and tissue still curled. 

Cutting temp is 13-14 degrees, same as used for rat brains.

Tried different PBS--- same curling.

I am at a loss. 

Any advice would be very helpful. 

Thank you.

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RE: [Histonet] Specimen Delivery

2010-05-10 Thread Laurie Colbert
Tissue specimens are brought directly to pathology.  Cytology fluids are
dropped off in Processing, because often fluids need to be shared
between several departments, and our Cytology dept doesn't necessarily
know that it is a shared specimen.  Processing can look it up in the
LIS.
Laurie

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For those of you who do tissue/cytology  processing in a hospital or
similar facility: Are tissue or fluid specimens brought directly to the
Anatomic Pathology/Cytology area, or are specimens dropped off in a
clinical accessioning area ?  We are debating the pros/cons of having
our
specimens dropped at a centralized location  since our Lab is becoming
more
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McLeod Regional Medical Center
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[Histonet] Bone marrow wright stain

2010-05-10 Thread Lynette Pavelich
Hello all,

Need Histonet help.  Hematology recently purchased a new blood smear
stainer that is producing variable staining.  It is especially bad with
the bone marrow smears, even when it is run through twice as was the
norm with the old stainer (now gone).  
Until this is resolved, does anyone have a GOOD MANUAL wright-giemsa
staining protocol you would like to share?  Our pathologists are quite
frustrated.  They do not care for the May-Grunwald Giemsa that we do
manually for our hematology oncologists.

thank you for your quick responses!!
Lynette

Lynette Pavelich, HT(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Hurley Medical Center
One Hurley Plaza
Flint, MI  48503
email: lpave...@hurleymc.com 
ph:  810-257-9948
Lab:  810-257-9138
fax:  810-762-7082



Lynette Pavelich, HT(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Hurley Medical Center
One Hurley Plaza
Flint, MI  48503
email: lpave...@hurleymc.com
ph:  810-257-9948
Lab:  810-257-9138
fax:  810-762-7082


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[Histonet] Re: Histonet Digest, Vol 78, Issue 12

2010-05-10 Thread Stephanie Rodriguez

We use this clone also.  It is distributed by Invitrogen, but the company
that makes it is CalTag. (Maybe Invitrogen owns them.)  We use AR of ph 9.0
Tris (0.5mM)/EDTA (0.1mM) for 20 min, dilution of 1:2000, and detection of
Dako Flex+.

It is not an IVD, by the way; it¹s still RUO.

Stephanie Rodriguez, HTL(ASCP), QIHC
Senior Molecular Tech/IHC Tech III
Phenopath Laboratories
Seattle, WA



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 Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:26:20 +0200
 From: Heather McCleod heather.mcl...@uct.ac.za
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] IgG4 source
 To: Joao Pessoa jphistol...@gmail.com,
  histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Message-ID: 4be8097c02cb00035...@gwiasmtp.uct.ac.za
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 
 I have used invitrogen - mouse anti-human IgG4 Clone HP6025  (successfully)
 AR in 1mm EDTA  Dilution 1:400
 Control - tonsil  (or Sjogren's Syndrome)
 
  Joao Pessoa jphistol...@gmail.com 2010/05/07 11:50 PM 
 I need to find a source for an IgG4 antibody for use with IHC studies on
 human FFPE tissue.  Any ideas?  My preference would be for a
 concentrated IVD.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joao
 Histo Tech
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[Histonet] Region II Managers Forum

2010-05-10 Thread Barone, Carol
Region II Managers on the Histonet:
Opportunity to attend the Managers Forum  -  Region II Meeting/Atlantic
City West, NJ. 

Date: June 10 

Time: 1:30-5:00PM

Session Title: Manager's Forum: Roundtable Discussion for Anatomic
Pathology Managers and Core Labs

Panel of Experts: 

Carol Barone

Director Histotech Core Lab, Nemours - A.I. duPont Hospital for
Children, Wilmington, DE

Janice Alvarez 

Anatomic Pathology Project Manager, Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore,
MD

Melissa Gannon 

Histology Manager, DIANON/Laboratory Corporation of America, Raleigh, NC

Moderator: Diana Goodwin, Previous Anatomic Pathology Supervisor
Pennsylvania Hospital in Phila,PA   

 

This informal  discussion among peers, will be conducted by and for
individuals who are in a supervisory or managerial roles encompassing
technical and/or administrative oversight in histotechnology.
Registrants are encouraged to submit topics of interest, or concern via
e-mail to :dgoodwin...@comcast.net at least two weeks prior to the
event.  

Participants will earn 3 CEU for attending this half day workshop. Cost
of this session is $40 for state society or Region II members or $60 for
non-members.

Deadline is May 20th   

 

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RE: [Histonet] Specimen Delivery

2010-05-10 Thread Podawiltz, Thomas
Here, all the surgical specimens are delivered directly to the Histology lab. 
All other specimens are delivered to the Specimen processing area (SPA). This 
way all specimens that need to be shared can be done there.


Tom Podawiltz, HT (ASCP)
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer
LRGHealthcare
603-524-3211 ext: 3220

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Subject: [Histonet] Specimen Delivery

For those of you who do tissue/cytology  processing in a hospital or
similar facility: Are tissue or fluid specimens brought directly to the
Anatomic Pathology/Cytology area, or are specimens dropped off in a
clinical accessioning area ?  We are debating the pros/cons of having our
specimens dropped at a centralized location  since our Lab is becoming more
spread out and nurses are confused about where to bring stuff.


Melanie S. White, MT(ASCP)
Laboratory Supervisor, Systems/Anatomic Pathology
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[Histonet] Histology Labs work schedules

2010-05-10 Thread Sharon . Davis-Devine
I have an important question to pose to all of you Histonetters. We currently 
have 5 Histotechs who work from 4:00 am to 4:30 pm Monday thru Friday.  One 
comes in at 4 am to embed, another comes in at 5 am to help finish embedding 
and start cutting blocks. The others come in from around 7 am to 8 am. We 
average around 200-250 blocks per day with an average of 350-400 slides cut per 
day.  IHC and Special staining is averaging around 145-200 slides per day with 
that number increasing.  So the burden of the work rests on these 5 techs in 
the morning.  We have a tech from Cytology who performs all of the IHC staining 
using two Ventana Benchmark stainers.  The problem is our IHC volume keeps 
increasing so that two runs a day are not keeping up with the volume.  We are 
playing around with the idea of adding an additional shift so that we have 
personnel here later in the day to run the IHC and special stainers and to 
embed and cut small biopsies and breast specimens.  Below is a list of 
questions that I would like for you to answer to assist us in making these 
crucial decisions.

1.   What are your staff schedules?  HT's, PA's and Lab 
assistants.
2.   On average, how many blocks and slides do you cut per day?
3.   If you have more than one shift, what hours do they work 
and what job functions do they perform?
4.   Does any of your staff work on the weekend and if they do 
what is their job function?
5.   What kind of QC/QA program do you utilize in your 
laboratory?

Thank you so much for you help.


Sharon Davis-Devine, CT (ASCP)
Cytology-Histology  Supervisor
Carle Foundation Hospital
Laboratory and Pathology Services
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Urbana, Illinois 61801
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[Histonet] P/T Certified Techs Needed (Multiple Openings)

2010-05-10 Thread Timothy Jay
I have job openings in Santa Rosa, Folsom, and Torrance, California for 
part-time certified histotechs. Great opportunity to work in brand new, well 
furnished, high quality,  in-office path labs with great physicians. 
Competitive pay and flexible hours. Send resumes to Timothy Garcia-Jay at 
tja...@yahoo.com
 
Thank you. 
 
Tim



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[Histonet] Are Histotechs considered exempt employees?

2010-05-10 Thread Anthony Sandoval
Hello fellow Histotechs, I have recently become certified as an HTL and was 
wondering if anyone out there is an 'exempt' employee? I live in California 
and feel that I am being taken advantage of.  I make 16.15$ per hour and 
frequently work 50 hour weeks. Am I off base? should I just be grateful that 
I have a job, as my employer so frequently reminds me? Thank you Histonet! 
you have been an invaluable resource in my career and assisting me in 
passing the HTL! 



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