RE: [Histonet] RE: time off

2012-01-05 Thread Susan.Walzer
Time off is one thing but holidays are another. Holidays need to be rotated. 
Seniority should apply to things like choice of hours but not holidays.

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Angela Bitting
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 8:47 AM
To: Andrea; Toni Rathborne
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: time off

I've witnessed that granting time by seniority lets you open to abuse. I know 
of an employee with high seniority who takes the whole week after Christmas 
every year. Our policy allows only one person off per day per shift. So then no 
one else ever can take off at Christmastime. Her peers complain to management 
about it, but they won't say anything to her.  
Just my two cents.
 
 
 Andrea abeharry...@gmail.com 1/3/2012 5:40 PM 
We also have a policy on the number of people that can be off during peak 
times. Our vacation schedule runs from June to June of the following year. 
Staff have up until a deadline of January 31 to put in their request for the 
next vacation year, whether it is one day or weeks. The requests handed in by 
this time period are granted based on seniority. ( in our institution they 
figure it's one of the only perks to being a senior!) After the January 31 
deadline it is first come first serve. All vacation requests must be submitted 
on a vacation request form and time stamped when handed in. This way if two 
people ask for the same day the person who handed it in with an earlier time 
stamp is granted the time off.
All of this is written in our scheduling guidelines. It seems to work pretty 
well.



On 2012-01-03, at 4:32 PM, Rathborne, Toni 
trathbo...@somerset-healthcare.com wrote:

 We have a Laboratory policy which states that holidays will be rotated. There 
 is also a section which gives a limit to the amount of time an employee can 
 have off during peak vacation time. For example, our staff can only have a 
 maximum of two weeks off during the peak summer time, and no more that 2 days 
 off during the last two weeks of December. I personally have no problem with 
 staff requesting time off early in the year, but I do ask that they discuss 
 with their coworkers before giving me the request. 
 
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 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Amber McKenzie
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 4:10 PM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 Subject: [Histonet] time off
 
 
 Those of you who are supervisors, how do you handle your co-workers asking 
 for time off?  I have 2 employees that have asked off already (jan 3rd) for 
 every day they want off for the entire year!  Do you grant them the days off 
 since no one else has asked off yet, or tell them it's not fair to 
 continuously get off around every holiday by asking off  5 - 12 months in 
 advance? 
 
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[Histonet] Histological mordant

2012-01-05 Thread Massimo
Hi all,

I was going to
prepare a solution 1% in distlled water of  dodecaphosphomolybdic acid  as
histological mordant
for Mallory staining. I noticed that it was not completely soluble in water, as
the Chemistry says, 
but in the yellowish
solution there was a thin precipitate quite heavy.
So I have to filter the solution.
I wonder if there will be
a  leak as mordant or it will be
necessary to lengthen the processing time.
Any experience
about?
Thank you in
advance.
 
Kind Regards,
Massimo Tosi
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RE: [Histonet] NCCI policy on IHC billing

2012-01-05 Thread Sheila Fonner
Sally,

This is a little different from what I understood yesterday.  I thought that
it was stated you could only bill once per part, such as an S-100 on part
A,B,C would be fine, but not on A1,A3, and A5.

I did not read anything about only being allowed to order one antibody. I
thought panels were understood and completely acceptable as long as you were
only billing for each individual stain once per part.  Also, I understood
the part about cocktail stains now being billed as one charge instead of
multiple.

Do you have a direct link to what you are stating?  I mentioned it to our
powers that be yesterday and they did not seem too concerned since they had
heard absolutely nothing about it from our billing company.

I would like to have some concrete proof before I go back to them with more
bad news.

Thanks,
Sheila, HT (ASCP)
KDL Pathology
Knoxville, TN


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sally Price
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:17 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] NCCI policy on IHC billing

Histonetters:
I waited a few days to see how others might weigh in after this information
was posted.  Call me crazy, but I expected quite a bit more reaction from
our community.  How is it that such a signifcant change in how IHC testing
may be conducted and will be paid for in the future can produce so little
response?

The way this new policy is stated, it looks pretty straightfoward: one
antibody (IHC procedure) per specimen; so, when it's necessary to use a
battery of IHC stains to determine the origin of an undifferentiated
neoplasm, the lab can only bill for one procedure.  How could such an
approach be possible?  And what about multi-antibody procedures, which are
usually more cost effective than single-antibody procedures?

Come on folks, this is a big deal becuase IHC staining is essential to to
the practice of anatomic pathology and provides a lot of us with our
livelihood.  I know I'm not alone in thinking that the CMS needs to know
that this new policy is completely impractical and must be changed.  Sure,
there's some unnecessary IHC procedures being performed, but this isn't the
way limit the problem.
Sally
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:33:17 -0600
From: Webb, Dorothy L dorothy.l.w...@healthpartners.com
Subject: [Histonet] NCCI policy update
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'

Is everyone aware that beginning 1/1/12, we can no longer bill for each
block regarding IHC billing, only one unit of billing for each part type no
matter how many blocks are stained? Also IHC cocktail stains, such as
PIN4 must now be billed as one unit even though multiple antibodies are
reported out.

Kind of a surprising reversal of the policy set in motion 10/1/2009.
SPECIMEN becomes the unit of service rather than block(s) for IHC codes
88342, 88360, and 88361.

Happy New Year to everyone out there. May 2012 find you happiness and
health!

Dorothy Webb, HT
Regions Histology TS
651-254-2962
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[Histonet] RE: Using Nail Polish on coverslip?

2012-01-05 Thread Leiker, Merced
I'll seal the coverslip around all the edges and let it dry in the hood for up 
to half an hour (because of the smell). I use a clear color that doesn't 
fluoresce under the miscroscope and also allows the slide to be stored at low 
temp (-20) without the nail polish seal cracking.  Also be sure the polish is 
toluene- and benzene-free. 

We've discovered Revlon #771 Clear fits these parameters and works very well.  
Cheaper nail polishes seem to crack or flake off at cold temps.

Regards,
Merced

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kasai, Miki 
(NIH/NCI) [E]
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:14 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Using Nail Polish on coverslip?

We are currently starting up some IHC on frozen tissue sections.  After 
staining with different fluorescent antibodies, we end with applying DAPI 
w/Prolong gold and then coverslipping.  We would like to seal the coverslip so 
that we can keep the slides longer.

Any suggestions on where and how best to apply the nail polish for a permanent 
fix on the coverslips?

Thanks,

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[Histonet] Cutting speed

2012-01-05 Thread Genest, Sharon SktnHR
Theresa
Although I agree with the messages on not trading quality for quantity
we ask our new grads to meet the following within the first 3 months.
Embedding 1 min/ block
Paring and cutting 2 min/block (average)
Some blocks are move difficult or require more levels and will take
longer and some will take less time.
Can you tell me if you received any numerical responses this will give
me an idea if our requirement is out of line?
Thanks and good luck!
Sharon Genest
Anatomic Pathology
Process Improvement
Saskatoon Health Region
306-655-8242
sharon.gen...@saskatoonhealthregion.ca

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RE: [Histonet] NCCI policy on IHC billing

2012-01-05 Thread Martha Ward-Pathology
From what we understand from the new policy the cocktailed antibodies, such as 
PIN4, are not to be charged separately.


Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC
Manager, Molecular Diagnostics Lab
Dept. of Pathology
Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center
Winston-Salem, NC 27157
336-716-2104



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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rae Staskiewicz
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:00 AM
To: 'Clare Thornton'; 'Sally Price'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Cc: Dana Spears
Subject: RE: [Histonet] NCCI policy on IHC billing

Clair,

I agree that the cocktailed antibodies would be charged as a single test,
however, with the dual and triple stains, since these are technically done
with separate procedures, would not each antibody be able to be charged?
This is what we are thinking. How are others interpreting this

Rae Staskiewicz

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Clare
Thornton
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:35 AM
To: Sally Price; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] NCCI policy on IHC billing

Sally,

The way I read it, I don't think it's one antibody per specimen; I think
what they are saying is that if you are running one antibody on multiple
blocks from one specimen, you can only bill once for that antibody.  I think
if you are running a panel of antibodies one one block from a specimen, you
can still charge for each antibody.  However, I completely agree with you.
This change came as a big surprise for our lab, until Dorothy posted it on
Histonet we had no idea.  How can that be?  (And thanks, Dorothy!)  The day
that post came out we happened to be running 20 pankeratin/p63 double stain
slides, all on multiple blocks from one specimen.  The two antibodies from
that double stain are applied at different times (to the same slide) and we
use two different detections.  So had we ran them after the new year, we
would've been able to charge only once for those 20 slides, never mind 20
tests being used from each antibody and 20 tests being taken from two
different detection kits.  And the tech time put into cutting those 20
slides!  We have several double and triple stains that we run on a daily
basis, and only one component from the triple stain is a cocktail; the rest
are separate antibodies being applied to the same slide using two different
detections.  I'm not sure exactly what our lab is going to do about it, but
somehow this change should have been made aware to everyone well before it
happened.  There are going to be labs who are no longer in compliance, and
we all know what that means..



Clare J. Thornton, HTL(ASCP)
Assistant Histology Supervisor
Dahl-Chase Diagnostic Services
417 State Street, Suite 540
Bangor, ME 04401
cthorn...@dahlchase.com

From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sally Price
[sprice2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:16 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] NCCI policy on IHC billing

Histonetters:
I waited a few days to see how others might weigh in after this information
was posted.  Call me crazy, but I expected quite a bit more reaction from
our community.  How is it that such a signifcant change in how IHC testing
may be conducted and will be paid for in the future can produce so little
response?

The way this new policy is stated, it looks pretty straightfoward: one
antibody (IHC procedure) per specimen; so, when it's necessary to use a
battery of IHC stains to determine the origin of an undifferentiated
neoplasm, the lab can only bill for one procedure.  How could such an
approach be possible?  And what about multi-antibody procedures, which
are usually more cost effective than single-antibody procedures?

Come on folks, this is a big deal becuase IHC staining is essential to to
the practice of anatomic pathology and provides a lot of us with our
livelihood.  I know I'm not alone in thinking that the CMS needs to know
that this new policy is completely impractical and must be changed.  Sure,
there's some unnecessary IHC procedures being performed, but this isn't the
way limit the problem.
Sally
--

Message: 6
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:33:17 -0600
From: Webb, Dorothy L dorothy.l.w...@healthpartners.com
Subject: [Histonet] NCCI policy update
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'

Is everyone aware that beginning 1/1/12, we can no longer bill for each
block regarding IHC billing, only one unit of billing for each part type no
matter how many blocks are stained? Also IHC cocktail stains, such as
PIN4 must now be billed as one unit even though multiple antibodies are
reported out.

Kind of a surprising reversal of the policy set in motion 10/1/2009.
SPECIMEN becomes the unit of 

[Histonet] RE: decal solution for molecular studies

2012-01-05 Thread Clare Thornton
To clarify, the Formical we use is a formic acid/EDTA solution.


Clare J. Thornton, HTL(ASCP), QIHC
Assistant Histology Supervisor
Dahl-Chase Diagnostic Services
417 State Street, Suite 540
Bangor, ME 04401
cthorn...@dahlchase.com



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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Clare Thornton
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:12 AM
To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] decal solution for molecular studies

Does anyone know of a decal solution that enables molecular studies (Her 2 
FISH, EGFR by PCR) to be performed later?  We use Formical for our decal 
solution.  Her 2 FISH works about 50% of the time, EGFR almost never.  We are 
looking at having to cut undecalcified bone today for both these studies, and 
we are not equipped to cut undecalcified bone.  Any suggestions?



Clare J. Thornton, HTL(ASCP), QIHC
Assistant Histology Supervisor
Dahl-Chase Diagnostic Services
417 State Street, Suite 540
Bangor, ME 04401
cthorn...@dahlchase.com

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[Histonet] Amazing

2012-01-05 Thread Sarah Dysart
I find it amazing sometimes when you don't do something for awhile how quickly 
your brain throws the information away.  That being said...I know back in the 
day when I was learning histology we used to make our own acid alcohol solution 
(now where I am had a butt load of Clearifier so I was using that up).  I don't 
want to buy that stuff anymore as making the solution is way cheaper and works 
just as well.  I want to say it was like a 1% acid solution in alcohol??  What 
was the acid?  For some reason my brain says glacial acetic...but time has made 
me forget.  Is the alcohol you mix it in 100% or something lower with a water 
content to it?  Please help my alzheimers =)
Happy Thursday!!

Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)
Histotechnologist
Mirna Therapeutics
2150 Woodward Street
Suite 100
Austin, Texas  78744
(512)901-0900 ext. 6912

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[Histonet] RE: Amazing

2012-01-05 Thread Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID)
If you are talking about a regressive HE stain then perhaps it was 1% HCL acid 
in 70% alcohol

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah Dysart
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:00 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Amazing

I find it amazing sometimes when you don't do something for awhile how quickly 
your brain throws the information away.  That being said...I know back in the 
day when I was learning histology we used to make our own acid alcohol solution 
(now where I am had a butt load of Clearifier so I was using that up).  I don't 
want to buy that stuff anymore as making the solution is way cheaper and works 
just as well.  I want to say it was like a 1% acid solution in alcohol??  What 
was the acid?  For some reason my brain says glacial acetic...but time has made 
me forget.  Is the alcohol you mix it in 100% or something lower with a water 
content to it?  Please help my alzheimers =) Happy Thursday!!

Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)
Histotechnologist
Mirna Therapeutics
2150 Woodward Street
Suite 100
Austin, Texas  78744
(512)901-0900 ext. 6912

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Re: [Histonet] Amazing

2012-01-05 Thread Rene J Buesa
You can use either acetic or hydrochloric, both will do. The strength is 1% BUT 
it does not matter. As a matter of fact the weaker the solution the better. 
Remember that the acid solution (that can be made with 7ethanolanol even 
better) is used to differentiate progressivesive hematoxylin, like Harris, and 
the weaker it is the more control you have with the differentiation.
A weak solution allows you to dip the slides several times until you obtain the 
desired reddish hue on the sections that signals when the differentiation is 
completed.
If the solution is too strong you will have to take the slides often 
precipitouslyusly and some sections will be have a weak nuclear staining.
So, use acetic at 1% in 70% ethanol  That is what I used to prepare.
René J.

--- On Thu, 1/5/12, Sarah Dysart sdys...@mirnarx.com wrote:


From: Sarah Dysart sdys...@mirnarx.com
Subject: [Histonet] Amazing
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, January 5, 2012, 10:59 AM


I find it amazing sometimes when you don't do something for awhile how quickly 
your brain throws the information away.  That being said...I know back in the 
day when I was learning histology we used to make our own acid alcohol solution 
(now where I am had a butt load of Clearifier so I was using that up).  I don't 
want to buy that stuff anymore as making the solution is way cheaper and works 
just as well.  I want to say it was like a 1% acid solution in alcohol??  What 
was the acid?  For some reason my brain says glacial acetic...but time has made 
me forget.  Is the alcohol you mix it in 100% or something lower with a water 
content to it?  Please help my alzheimers =)
Happy Thursday!!

Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)
Histotechnologist
Mirna Therapeutics
2150 Woodward Street
Suite 100
Austin, Texas  78744
(512)901-0900 ext. 6912

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[Histonet] RE: Amazing

2012-01-05 Thread Burton, Lynn
I still use that. It is 70% with 5mL of hydrochloric acid if making 1L.
Lynn Burton
Lab Assoc I
Animal Disease Lab
Galesburg, Il
309-344-2451

From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah Dysart 
[sdys...@mirnarx.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:59 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Amazing

I find it amazing sometimes when you don't do something for awhile how quickly 
your brain throws the information away.  That being said...I know back in the 
day when I was learning histology we used to make our own acid alcohol solution 
(now where I am had a butt load of Clearifier so I was using that up).  I don't 
want to buy that stuff anymore as making the solution is way cheaper and works 
just as well.  I want to say it was like a 1% acid solution in alcohol??  What 
was the acid?  For some reason my brain says glacial acetic...but time has made 
me forget.  Is the alcohol you mix it in 100% or something lower with a water 
content to it?  Please help my alzheimers =)
Happy Thursday!!

Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)
Histotechnologist
Mirna Therapeutics
2150 Woodward Street
Suite 100
Austin, Texas  78744
(512)901-0900 ext. 6912

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RE: [Histonet] Amazing

2012-01-05 Thread Bernice Frederick
We use .5%  acid alcohol ( hydrochloric) with Harris hemo. No problems.
Bernice

Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
Senior Research Tech
Pathology Core Facility
ECOGPCO-RL
Robert. H. Lurie Cancer Center
Northwestern University
710 N Fairbanks Court
Olson 8-421
Chicago,IL 60611
312-503-3723
b-freder...@northwestern.edu


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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:17 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Sarah Dysart
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Amazing

You can use either acetic or hydrochloric, both will do. The strength is 1% BUT 
it does not matter. As a matter of fact the weaker the solution the better. 
Remember that the acid solution (that can be made with 7ethanolanol even 
better) is used to differentiate progressivesive hematoxylin, like Harris, and 
the weaker it is the more control you have with the differentiation.
A weak solution allows you to dip the slides several times until you obtain the 
desired reddish hue on the sections that signals when the differentiation is 
completed.
If the solution is too strong you will have to take the slides often 
precipitouslyusly and some sections will be have a weak nuclear staining.
So, use acetic at 1% in 70% ethanol  That is what I used to prepare.
René J.

--- On Thu, 1/5/12, Sarah Dysart sdys...@mirnarx.com wrote:


From: Sarah Dysart sdys...@mirnarx.com
Subject: [Histonet] Amazing
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Thursday, January 5, 2012, 10:59 AM


I find it amazing sometimes when you don't do something for awhile how quickly 
your brain throws the information away.  That being said...I know back in the 
day when I was learning histology we used to make our own acid alcohol solution 
(now where I am had a butt load of Clearifier so I was using that up).  I don't 
want to buy that stuff anymore as making the solution is way cheaper and works 
just as well.  I want to say it was like a 1% acid solution in alcohol??  What 
was the acid?  For some reason my brain says glacial acetic...but time has made 
me forget.  Is the alcohol you mix it in 100% or something lower with a water 
content to it?  Please help my alzheimers =) Happy Thursday!!

Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)
Histotechnologist
Mirna Therapeutics
2150 Woodward Street
Suite 100
Austin, Texas  78744
(512)901-0900 ext. 6912

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[Histonet] Look at me...

2012-01-05 Thread Sarah Dysart
I'm just full of questions today!!  This one is IHC...I have been trying to 
optimize a Caspase3 stain for several months now and it is still just chalked 
full of background gradoo.  I do all the blocking including Fc 
receptors...still junk.  The clone I have been using is, from abcam (ab2302).  
I don't see the specific clone name listed.  I am staining human xenografts 
raised in mouse.  I get a whole lot of background staining making it very hard 
to find the positive staining.  The recommended dilution is about 1:30, but I 
have diluted all the way up to 1:500.  At the higher dilution no positive 
staining or background is observed.  Does anyone know of a good Caspase3 
antibody,  preferably mouse monoclonal?  All the rabbit polyclonal antibodies 
are difficult to stain on these xenografts.
Thanks again =)

Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)
Histotechnologist
Mirna Therapeutics
2150 Woodward Street
Suite 100
Austin, Texas  78744
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[Histonet] Nail Polish sealant

2012-01-05 Thread gayle callis
You wrote: 

We are currently starting up some IHC on frozen tissue sections.  After
staining with different fluorescent antibodies, we end with applying DAPI
w/Prolong gold and then coverslipping.  We would like to seal the coverslip
so that we can keep the slides longer.  Any suggestions on where and how
best to apply the nail polish for a permanent fix on the coverslips?

 

*

Prolong Gold antifade reagent is a hard seal to begin with. We only seal
ends but not the sides of cover glass.  Our coverslips go right to edge of
slides e.g. 25 X 30, 25 x 40, or 25 X 50.We don't like having nail
polish slop over the edges onto back of slides but one could seal all sides
of coverslip if careful. We buy the thinner top or base coat nail
polish, but in general, prefer to use thinned mounting media rather than
nail polish.   There can be some issues here.If you are trying to view
GFP or RFP (red fluorescence protein) labeled cells or tissue components,
you should not seal the coverslip with nail polish since the alcohol in nail
polish leaches under the coverslip and causes GFP/RFP to fade.  This fact
was published in Science.   We found that dumping out cheap clear nail
polish from bottle, rinsing away the residue with acetone, and then adding
permanent mounting media and thinning that with toluene to the consistency
of top coat nail polish works best.  Toluene or xylene based sealants cannot
leach under the cover glass since these solvents are NOT miscible with water
in the PBS.Thinned mounting media is better sealant for GFP purposes (no
fading) and also works for IF stained sections (perfect seal).  We love the
little brush in the nail polish bottle for application.  Thicker clear nail
polish (for non GFP studies) or IF stained sections is messy during
application so we buy the cheapest top coat polish we can find at Walmart.


 

DAPI in the Prolong Gold will cause an uneven staining gradient so that some
of the nuclei in the center of a section are not stained as brightly as the
nuclei on the outer edges of a stained section.  The cause is not getting
enough thicker Prolong Gold/DAPI over the section or not having just the
right amount of buffer on the section to permit a good flow of this
wonderful mounting media over the section.We now complete all IF
staining then stain with a DAPI solution before cover slipping with Prolong
Gold.   You can buy ready to use DAPI solutions from Pierce or Biogenex, or
make up the solution in house.   You can find the recipe at IHCworld website
or simply Google.  

 

We do NOT store our IF stained slides in the cold, but in a folder at RT in
a dark drawer before viewing on the day after staining to reduce any
movement/flow under the coverslip.   Fluorophores can and will eventually
fade.   I do not recall any studies saying storing IF stained slides in the
cold reduces fading but we never have space to do cold storage anyway and
store slides at RT.The new fluorophores (Alexas and Dylights) remain
stable over a longer time even for several weeks compared to fluorescein
derivatives e.g. FITC TRITC.  

 

Gayle M. Callis

HTL/HT/MT(ASCP)

Bozeman MT   

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[Histonet] RE: Look at me...

2012-01-05 Thread Elizabeth Chlipala
If you are looking to stain cleaved caspase 3 there is a better antibody from 
cell signaling it works in multiple species, it's a bit pricey but I have found 
that it works the best out of the few that I have tried.  We have used it mouse 
xenografts before without any issue.

Liz

Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
Premier Laboratory, LLC
PO Box 18592
Boulder, CO 80308-1592
(303) 682-3949 office
(303) 682-9060 fax
(303) 881-0763 cell
www.premierlab.com

Ship to address:

1567 Skyway Drive, Unit E
Longmont, CO 80504

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah Dysart
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:17 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Look at me...

I'm just full of questions today!!  This one is IHC...I have been trying to 
optimize a Caspase3 stain for several months now and it is still just chalked 
full of background gradoo.  I do all the blocking including Fc 
receptors...still junk.  The clone I have been using is, from abcam (ab2302).  
I don't see the specific clone name listed.  I am staining human xenografts 
raised in mouse.  I get a whole lot of background staining making it very hard 
to find the positive staining.  The recommended dilution is about 1:30, but I 
have diluted all the way up to 1:500.  At the higher dilution no positive 
staining or background is observed.  Does anyone know of a good Caspase3 
antibody,  preferably mouse monoclonal?  All the rabbit polyclonal antibodies 
are difficult to stain on these xenografts.
Thanks again =)

Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)
Histotechnologist
Mirna Therapeutics
2150 Woodward Street
Suite 100
Austin, Texas  78744
(512)901-0900 ext. 6912

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[Histonet] Elastichrome paper, and troubleshooting

2012-01-05 Thread Morken, Timothy
Does anyone have a pdf (or could fax me) the original paper for Elastichrome 
stain:

Richardson, L. Combination Elastic Trichrome Stain, Laboratory Medicine, 6.1, 
1975

We have a procedure with this reference, but no original paper to look at. We 
do it very rarely and no one seems to know how well it worked in the past.

I do have another paper in the same vein, A combination verhoeff's elastic and 
masson's trichrom stain for routine histology, O'Connor, S. Valle, Stain 
Technology V 57, no. 4, 1982, that is a modification of the Richardson paper, 
and gives us some ideas, but I would still like to see the original paper if 
possible.

Our problem is that the elastic stain washes out during or after the trichrome.

Procedure:
Bouins, 56C one hour
Wiegerts hematolylin, 3min
Verhoffs elastic stain, 15 min
2% ferric chloride differentiation (so far so-good)
Gomori's trichrome Blue, 15 min
0.2% glacial acetic acid, 1 min
Wash dH20, dehydrate, clear, mount

Results:  trichrome looks great, no elastin stain.

I'm thinking the acetic acid is too long so told them to shorten it to a few 
dips and see how it looks. But, maybe some has some experience with this and 
has other suggestions.

Thanks for any help.


Tim Morken
Supervisor, Histology, IPOX
UC San Francisco Medical Center
Box 1656
1600 Divisidero St, B217
San Francisco, CA 94115
USA

415.514.6042 (office)
415.885.7409 Fax
tim.mor...@ucsfmedctr.orgmailto:tim.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org

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[Histonet] RE: Elastichrome paper, and troubleshooting

2012-01-05 Thread Elizabeth Chlipala
Tim

We do this stain all of the time, we never used the original reference we just 
made up one on our own.  I'll send our SOP in a different e-mail.

Liz

Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
Premier Laboratory, LLC
PO Box 18592
Boulder, CO 80308-1592
(303) 682-3949 office
(303) 682-9060 fax
(303) 881-0763 cell
www.premierlab.com

Ship to address:

1567 Skyway Drive, Unit E
Longmont, CO 80504

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Morken, Timothy
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:45 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Elastichrome paper, and troubleshooting

Does anyone have a pdf (or could fax me) the original paper for Elastichrome 
stain:

Richardson, L. Combination Elastic Trichrome Stain, Laboratory Medicine, 6.1, 
1975

We have a procedure with this reference, but no original paper to look at. We 
do it very rarely and no one seems to know how well it worked in the past.

I do have another paper in the same vein, A combination verhoeff's elastic and 
masson's trichrom stain for routine histology, O'Connor, S. Valle, Stain 
Technology V 57, no. 4, 1982, that is a modification of the Richardson paper, 
and gives us some ideas, but I would still like to see the original paper if 
possible.

Our problem is that the elastic stain washes out during or after the trichrome.

Procedure:
Bouins, 56C one hour
Wiegerts hematolylin, 3min
Verhoffs elastic stain, 15 min
2% ferric chloride differentiation (so far so-good)
Gomori's trichrome Blue, 15 min
0.2% glacial acetic acid, 1 min
Wash dH20, dehydrate, clear, mount

Results:  trichrome looks great, no elastin stain.

I'm thinking the acetic acid is too long so told them to shorten it to a few 
dips and see how it looks. But, maybe some has some experience with this and 
has other suggestions.

Thanks for any help.


Tim Morken
Supervisor, Histology, IPOX
UC San Francisco Medical Center
Box 1656
1600 Divisidero St, B217
San Francisco, CA 94115
USA

415.514.6042 (office)
415.885.7409 Fax
tim.mor...@ucsfmedctr.orgmailto:tim.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org

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[Histonet] RE: Look at me...

2012-01-05 Thread Connolly, Brett M
I'll second that from our experience - Cell Signaling cleaved caspase-3 
antibody works well on xenografts

Brett

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West Point, PA 19486
brett_conno...@merck.com
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F- 215-993-6803


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Elizabeth 
Chlipala
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:36 PM
To: 'Sarah Dysart'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Look at me...

If you are looking to stain cleaved caspase 3 there is a better antibody from 
cell signaling it works in multiple species, it's a bit pricey but I have found 
that it works the best out of the few that I have tried.  We have used it mouse 
xenografts before without any issue.

Liz

Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
Premier Laboratory, LLC
PO Box 18592
Boulder, CO 80308-1592
(303) 682-3949 office
(303) 682-9060 fax
(303) 881-0763 cell
www.premierlab.com

Ship to address:

1567 Skyway Drive, Unit E
Longmont, CO 80504

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah Dysart
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:17 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Look at me...

I'm just full of questions today!!  This one is IHC...I have been trying to 
optimize a Caspase3 stain for several months now and it is still just chalked 
full of background gradoo.  I do all the blocking including Fc 
receptors...still junk.  The clone I have been using is, from abcam (ab2302).  
I don't see the specific clone name listed.  I am staining human xenografts 
raised in mouse.  I get a whole lot of background staining making it very hard 
to find the positive staining.  The recommended dilution is about 1:30, but I 
have diluted all the way up to 1:500.  At the higher dilution no positive 
staining or background is observed.  Does anyone know of a good Caspase3 
antibody,  preferably mouse monoclonal?  All the rabbit polyclonal antibodies 
are difficult to stain on these xenografts.
Thanks again =)

Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)
Histotechnologist
Mirna Therapeutics
2150 Woodward Street
Suite 100
Austin, Texas  78744
(512)901-0900 ext. 6912

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[Histonet] RE:

2012-01-05 Thread Mayer,Toysha N
Sarah,

I would use the 1% Acetic Acid in 70% alcohol, for a couple of reasons: your 
docs are used to looking at the stain with the Clarifier, and acetic is the 
ingredient in the Clarifier 2; also you probably will not have to change your 
staining times by too much if you use acetic. You could probably even dilute it 
out to 50% alcohol. HCL works too fast, especially since I have students. 

Toysha N. Mayer, MBA, HT (ASCP)
Instructor
Program in Histotechnology
School of Health Professions
MD Anderson Cancer Center
(713) 563-3481
tnma...@mdanderson.org






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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 15:59:35 +
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Subject: [Histonet] Amazing
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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8a70a9b2ecdd084dacfe6c59fcf86d509c9...@sn2prd0702mb098.namprd07.prod.outlook.com

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I find it amazing sometimes when you don't do something for awhile how quickly 
your brain throws the information away.  That being said...I know back in the 
day when I was learning histology we used to make our own acid alcohol solution 
(now where I am had a butt load of Clearifier so I was using that up).  I don't 
want to buy that stuff anymore as making the solution is way cheaper and works 
just as well.  I want to say it was like a 1% acid solution in alcohol??  What 
was the acid?  For some reason my brain says glacial acetic...but time has made 
me forget.  Is the alcohol you mix it in 100% or something lower with a water 
content to it?  Please help my alzheimers =)
Happy Thursday!!

Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)
Histotechnologist
Mirna Therapeutics
2150 Woodward Street
Suite 100
Austin, Texas  78744
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[Histonet] RE: Elastichrome Paper

2012-01-05 Thread Mayer,Toysha N
Tim,

I do not have the paper, but a few years ago I worked the kinks out of that 
stain.  Your acetic acid is too long. Try for the amount of time that you 
usually do for a one step. A few dips would be a good start. Then rinse in 
dH2O, not wash. 
Also, I do not remember using the Weigert's and Verhoeff's solution. No need. 
Just the Bouins mordant, VVG and did a trichrome as a counter stain. Also, do 
not differentiate as much with the Ferric. Under differentiation will 
compensate for the other reagents. How long do you usually leave the slides in 
one step when doing a regular one?
Those would be good starting points. 


Toysha N. Mayer, MBA, HT (ASCP)
Instructor
Program in Histotechnology
School of Health Professions
MD Anderson Cancer Center
(713) 563-3481
tnma...@mdanderson.org








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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:45:25 -0800
From: Morken, Timothy timothy.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org
Subject: [Histonet] Elastichrome paper, and troubleshooting
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Does anyone have a pdf (or could fax me) the original paper for Elastichrome 
stain:

Richardson, L. Combination Elastic Trichrome Stain, Laboratory Medicine, 6.1, 
1975

We have a procedure with this reference, but no original paper to look at. We 
do it very rarely and no one seems to know how well it worked in the past.

I do have another paper in the same vein, A combination verhoeff's elastic and 
masson's trichrom stain for routine histology, O'Connor, S. Valle, Stain 
Technology V 57, no. 4, 1982, that is a modification of the Richardson paper, 
and gives us some ideas, but I would still like to see the original paper if 
possible.

Our problem is that the elastic stain washes out during or after the trichrome.

Procedure:
Bouins, 56C one hour
Wiegerts hematolylin, 3min
Verhoffs elastic stain, 15 min
2% ferric chloride differentiation (so far so-good)
Gomori's trichrome Blue, 15 min
0.2% glacial acetic acid, 1 min
Wash dH20, dehydrate, clear, mount

Results:  trichrome looks great, no elastin stain.

I'm thinking the acetic acid is too long so told them to shorten it to a few 
dips and see how it looks. But, maybe some has some experience with this and 
has other suggestions.

Thanks for any help.


Tim Morken
Supervisor, Histology, IPOX
UC San Francisco Medical Center
Box 1656
1600 Divisidero St, B217
San Francisco, CA 94115
USA

415.514.6042 (office)
415.885.7409 Fax
tim.mor...@ucsfmedctr.orgmailto:tim.mor...@ucsfmedctr.org



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[Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology

2012-01-05 Thread Amy Self
Happy New Year to All,

I need some help from all of you out there in histoland.

How many of you wear respirators during your entire 8 hour work day for routine 
histology?  If you don't wear a respirator do you wear any type of mask or 
shield at all for routine histology?

Also if any of you have any histology safety procedures or information that you 
would be willing to share with me I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance for all of your help, Amy


Amy Self
Georgetown Hospital System
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[Histonet] Clearing NBT/BCIP precipitate from wax sections

2012-01-05 Thread Andrew Gillis

Hello,

I have some paraffin sections that I've used for immunohistochemistry 
(using an alkaline phosphatase-conjugated secondary antibody and 
NBT/BCIP as a substrate), and coverslipped with an aqueous mounting 
medium (Fluoromount G). I would now like to de-coverslip and re-stain 
these sections with a different histochemical protocol (i.e. Masson's 
trichrome or HE). Does anybody know if there is a way to clear away 
the colour reaction precipitate from my previous IHC? If, after 
decoverslipping, I dehydrate and then rehydrate the sections, will this 
do the job?


Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks very much,
Andrew

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[Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais

2012-01-05 Thread Villarreal, Beth
Hello histonet,
I have a protocol that calls for safran du gatinais and am experiencing some 
serious sticker shock.  Can I substitute saffron in my solution or am I asking 
for trouble?

Many thanks,
Beth


Beth Villarreal
Scientist I
Novartis Institutes for BioMedical
Research, Inc.
300 Technology Square
Cambridge, MA 02139
USA


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Re: [Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology

2012-01-05 Thread Lisa Brenner
No, not here. We don't wear anything at all. We have excellent air flow, and we 
wear the badges that test for exposure to xylene and formalin annually which I 
think is a CAP requirement. Our results have been better than acceptable every 
year.

 
Lisa Brenner HTL (ASCP)
Histology Technical Consultant
Holland Hospital 
phone: (616)394-3184
li...@hollandhospital.org Amy Self as...@georgetownhospitalsystem.org 
1/5/2012 3:09 PM 
Happy New Year to All,

I need some help from all of you out there in histoland.

How many of you wear respirators during your entire 8 hour work day for routine 
histology?  If you don't wear a respirator do you wear any type of mask or 
shield at all for routine histology?

Also if any of you have any histology safety procedures or information that you 
would be willing to share with me I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance for all of your help, Amy


Amy Self
Georgetown Hospital System
843-527-7179
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RE: [Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology

2012-01-05 Thread Blazek, Linda
Nothing at all???

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lisa Brenner
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:22 PM
To: Amy Self; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology

No, not here. We don't wear anything at all. We have excellent air flow, and we 
wear the badges that test for exposure to xylene and formalin annually which I 
think is a CAP requirement. Our results have been better than acceptable every 
year.

 
Lisa Brenner HTL (ASCP)
Histology Technical Consultant
Holland Hospital
phone: (616)394-3184
li...@hollandhospital.org Amy Self as...@georgetownhospitalsystem.org 
1/5/2012 3:09 PM  Happy New Year to All,

I need some help from all of you out there in histoland.

How many of you wear respirators during your entire 8 hour work day for routine 
histology?  If you don't wear a respirator do you wear any type of mask or 
shield at all for routine histology?

Also if any of you have any histology safety procedures or information that you 
would be willing to share with me I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance for all of your help, Amy


Amy Self
Georgetown Hospital System
843-527-7179
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Re: [Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology

2012-01-05 Thread jsjurczak
They must be in a liberal part of Michigan. 

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as...@georgetownhospitalsystem.org, histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology 

Nothing at all??? 

-Original Message- 
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lisa Brenner 
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:22 PM 
To: Amy Self; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology 

No, not here. We don't wear anything at all. We have excellent air flow, and we 
wear the badges that test for exposure to xylene and formalin annually which I 
think is a CAP requirement. Our results have been better than acceptable every 
year. 


Lisa Brenner HTL (ASCP) 
Histology Technical Consultant 
Holland Hospital 
phone: (616)394-3184 
li...@hollandhospital.org Amy Self as...@georgetownhospitalsystem.org 
1/5/2012 3:09 PM  Happy New Year to All, 

I need some help from all of you out there in histoland. 

How many of you wear respirators during your entire 8 hour work day for routine 
histology? If you don't wear a respirator do you wear any type of mask or 
shield at all for routine histology? 

Also if any of you have any histology safety procedures or information that you 
would be willing to share with me I would greatly appreciate it. 

Thanks in advance for all of your help, Amy 


Amy Self 
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RE: [Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais

2012-01-05 Thread Jerry Ricks

Hi Beth,


Saffron and safran du gatinais both refer to the dried stigma of the 
saffron crocus.  They are both saffron.  I use and alcoholic extract of 
Saffron to stain collagen in Movat stains.  I've tried saffron from multiple 
sources and price definitely does not always correlate with quality.  I gave up 
on Sigma-Aldrich, for example.  The best saffron has a deep red color and is 
highly aromatic.  There are possible workarounds for the lower quality 
material--like use more saffron, or stain longer, but best to use the best.

What stain are you doing and what solution are you making with the saffron?

Jerry Ricks
Research Scientist
University of Washington
Department of Pathology



 From: beth.villarr...@novartis.com
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 20:02:21 +
 Subject: [Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais
 
 Hello histonet,
 I have a protocol that calls for safran du gatinais and am experiencing some 
 serious sticker shock.  Can I substitute saffron in my solution or am I 
 asking for trouble?
 
 Many thanks,
 Beth
 
 
 Beth Villarreal
 Scientist I
 Novartis Institutes for BioMedical
 Research, Inc.
 300 Technology Square
 Cambridge, MA 02139
 USA
 
 
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[Histonet] antibody to CpiV

2012-01-05 Thread Elizabeth Chlipala
Is anyone aware of a source for an antibody to CpiV - canine parainfluenza 
virus.  I have searched and come across some papers with IHC staining but I am 
unable to access the complete paper.
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Liz

Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
Premier Laboratory, LLC
PO Box 18592
Boulder, CO 80308-1592
(303) 682-3949 office
(303) 682-9060 fax
(303) 881-0763 cell
www.premierlab.comhttp://www.premierlab.com

Ship to address:

1567 Skyway Drive, Unit E
Longmont, CO 80504

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[Histonet] RE: saffron vs. safran du gatinais

2012-01-05 Thread Truscott, Tom
Hi Beth, Saffron is a great spice. We use it in a old family recipe from 
Cornwall for a bread roll( saffron nubbies). We also find the price very 
expensive, but also varies a lot. If you know anyone in the middle East, or 
India, they could get it a lot cheaper. We have raised it in our garden and get 
about four 3/4 in long stigmas from each flower, so it is labor intensive to 
get much, but a little goes a long way. It has to. I don't know of any 
substitute in staining. Tom Truscott

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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais

Hello histonet,
I have a protocol that calls for safran du gatinais and am experiencing some 
serious sticker shock.  Can I substitute saffron in my solution or am I asking 
for trouble?

Many thanks,
Beth


Beth Villarreal
Scientist I
Novartis Institutes for BioMedical
Research, Inc.
300 Technology Square
Cambridge, MA 02139
USA


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Re: [Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology

2012-01-05 Thread Nicole Tatum
I also do not wear any type of respirator. Not at any point of my day. I
annually wear a formalin badge to test for exposure rate, but thats it. I
gross under a fume hood and I use Slide Bright instead of xylene. It does
not have any fumes or noxious odor and is non toxic. My stain line is also
contained under a fume hood. No one ever smells or complains about my
fumes, unless im changing the processor, they tend to smell the alcohol
then. Mask are a required safety supply, and I do believe in some
situations a respirator may be needed, but it is ultimately up to the
tech. Besides the lab should have adequite ventilation that a respirator
should not be needed for the entire shift, maybe during specfic tasks with
high fumes.

Nicole Tatum, HT ASCP




Happy New Year to All,

 I need some help from all of you out there in histoland.

 How many of you wear respirators during your entire 8 hour work day for
 routine histology?  If you don't wear a respirator do you wear any type of
 mask or shield at all for routine histology?

 Also if any of you have any histology safety procedures or information
 that you would be willing to share with me I would greatly appreciate it.

 Thanks in advance for all of your help, Amy


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Re: [Histonet] RE: Amazing

2012-01-05 Thread Rena Fail
0.5% HCL acid ih 70 % ethanol
Rena fail


On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Burton, Lynn lynn.bur...@illinois.govwrote:

 I still use that. It is 70% with 5mL of hydrochloric acid if making 1L.
 Lynn Burton
 Lab Assoc I
 Animal Disease Lab
 Galesburg, Il
 309-344-2451
 
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [
 histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah Dysart [
 sdys...@mirnarx.com]
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:59 AM
 To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: [Histonet] Amazing

  I find it amazing sometimes when you don't do something for awhile how
 quickly your brain throws the information away.  That being said...I know
 back in the day when I was learning histology we used to make our own acid
 alcohol solution (now where I am had a butt load of Clearifier so I was
 using that up).  I don't want to buy that stuff anymore as making the
 solution is way cheaper and works just as well.  I want to say it was like
 a 1% acid solution in alcohol??  What was the acid?  For some reason my
 brain says glacial acetic...but time has made me forget.  Is the alcohol
 you mix it in 100% or something lower with a water content to it?  Please
 help my alzheimers =)
 Happy Thursday!!

 Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)
 Histotechnologist
 Mirna Therapeutics
 2150 Woodward Street
 Suite 100
 Austin, Texas  78744
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RE: [Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology

2012-01-05 Thread Sarah Dysart
I'm in Texas and have been in histology labs since 1998 in 4 different places.  
None of them did we ever wear a respirator for normal histology work.  We did 
have to wear masks when cutting frozens because of possible TB in lung tissue, 
but that was it.  Most labs should have some kind of negative pressure in them 
and be exhausting out of the room.  I also have always had some kind of hood 
over the staining station, and usually another hood to gross specimens in.  I 
would say wearing a respirator every day for 8 hours would have made me decide 
on another field!!  How irritating!!
Good Luck!

Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)
Histotechnologist
Mirna Therapeutics
2150 Woodward Street
Suite 100
Austin, Texas  78744
(512)901-0900 ext. 6912


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Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Amy Self
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology

They must be in a liberal part of Michigan. 

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To: Lisa Brenner li...@hollandhospital.org, Amy Self 
as...@georgetownhospitalsystem.org, histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology 

Nothing at all??? 

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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:22 PM 
To: Amy Self; 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu' 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology 

No, not here. We don't wear anything at all. We have excellent air flow, and we 
wear the badges that test for exposure to xylene and formalin annually which I 
think is a CAP requirement. Our results have been better than acceptable every 
year. 


Lisa Brenner HTL (ASCP) 
Histology Technical Consultant 
Holland Hospital 
phone: (616)394-3184 
li...@hollandhospital.org Amy Self as...@georgetownhospitalsystem.org 
1/5/2012 3:09 PM  Happy New Year to All, 

I need some help from all of you out there in histoland. 

How many of you wear respirators during your entire 8 hour work day for routine 
histology? If you don't wear a respirator do you wear any type of mask or 
shield at all for routine histology? 

Also if any of you have any histology safety procedures or information that you 
would be willing to share with me I would greatly appreciate it. 

Thanks in advance for all of your help, Amy 


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Georgetown Hospital System 
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[Histonet] RE: Elastichrome paper, and troubleshooting

2012-01-05 Thread Tony Henwood (SCHN)
How old is the alcoholic Hx you use to prepare the Verhoeffs. I have found that 
matured 10% ethanoic Hx is more resistant to differentiation than freshly 
prepared Hx.

Might be of use

Regards 
Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA) 
Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist 
Tel: 612 9845 3306 
Fax: 612 9845 3318 
the children's hospital at westmead
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA 

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Morken, Timothy
Sent: Friday, 6 January 2012 4:45 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Elastichrome paper, and troubleshooting

Does anyone have a pdf (or could fax me) the original paper for Elastichrome 
stain:

Richardson, L. Combination Elastic Trichrome Stain, Laboratory Medicine, 6.1, 
1975

We have a procedure with this reference, but no original paper to look at. We 
do it very rarely and no one seems to know how well it worked in the past.

I do have another paper in the same vein, A combination verhoeff's elastic and 
masson's trichrom stain for routine histology, O'Connor, S. Valle, Stain 
Technology V 57, no. 4, 1982, that is a modification of the Richardson paper, 
and gives us some ideas, but I would still like to see the original paper if 
possible.

Our problem is that the elastic stain washes out during or after the trichrome.

Procedure:
Bouins, 56C one hour
Wiegerts hematolylin, 3min
Verhoffs elastic stain, 15 min
2% ferric chloride differentiation (so far so-good) Gomori's trichrome Blue, 15 
min 0.2% glacial acetic acid, 1 min Wash dH20, dehydrate, clear, mount

Results:  trichrome looks great, no elastin stain.

I'm thinking the acetic acid is too long so told them to shorten it to a few 
dips and see how it looks. But, maybe some has some experience with this and 
has other suggestions.

Thanks for any help.


Tim Morken
Supervisor, Histology, IPOX
UC San Francisco Medical Center
Box 1656
1600 Divisidero St, B217
San Francisco, CA 94115
USA

415.514.6042 (office)
415.885.7409 Fax
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RE: [Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais

2012-01-05 Thread gayle callis
Beth, 

In the past, people replied to Histonet with the suggestion to buy saffron
aka safran du gatinais from a grocery store spice section.   Depending on
where you are located e.g. a bigger city, try to find a store that sells
spices from India may have the freshest saffron.   However, you won't suffer
the sticker shock of buying it from a chemical supplier.  It still tends to
be expensive but not like chemical company prices.Once we made the
alcoholic saffron solution for Movat's pentachrome, we stored this solution
in a container with a dessicant to maintain a water free environment.   

I was fascinated that Tom actually grew and harvested saffron from the
flowers.   That is true devotion, but I suspect it was for those delicious
sounding nubbies .   

Good luck

Gayle M. Callis
HTL/HT/MT(ASCP) 
Bozeman MT  

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Villarreal,
Beth
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:02 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] saffron vs. safran du gatinais

Hello histonet,
I have a protocol that calls for safran du gatinais and am experiencing some
serious sticker shock.  Can I substitute saffron in my solution or am I
asking for trouble?

Many thanks,
Beth


Beth Villarreal
Scientist I
Novartis Institutes for BioMedical
Research, Inc.
300 Technology Square
Cambridge, MA 02139
USA


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[Histonet] Re: Histonet Digest, Vol 98, Issue 6

2012-01-05 Thread Madeleine Huey
Sarah,

Your background is caused by cross-activity from your mouse primary
antibody on mouse tissue (xenografts).  You can try Mouse on Mouse kit
(Biocare's has a great Mouse on Mouse HRP Polymer system).

I have used Cell Signaling's Rabbit anti-Cleaved Caspase 3 (Cat #
9661) on Xenografts and they work very well. They are very specified
and high affinity (appx. ~ 1:10k) with Dako's Envision + system.

Your problem will be solve if you just switch your primary ab from
mouse to rabbit.

Good Luck!
Madeleine Huey BS, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
Supervisor - Pathology (IPOX  Histology)
madeleineh...@elcaminohospital.org



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 To clarify, the Formical we use is a formic acid/EDTA solution.


 Clare J. Thornton, HTL(ASCP), QIHC
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 Bangor, ME 04401
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 Does anyone know of a decal solution that enables molecular studies (Her 2 
 FISH, EGFR by PCR) to be performed later?  We use Formical for our decal 
 solution.  Her 2 FISH works about 50% of the time, EGFR almost never.  We are 
 looking at having to cut undecalcified bone today for both these studies, and 
 we are not equipped to cut undecalcified bone.  Any suggestions?



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 I find it amazing sometimes when you don't do something for awhile how 
 quickly your brain throws the information away.  That being said...I know 
 back in the day when I was learning histology we used to make our own acid 
 alcohol solution (now where I am had a butt load of Clearifier so I was using 
 that up).  I don't want to buy that stuff anymore as making the solution is 
 way cheaper and works just as well.  I want to say it was like a 1% acid 
 solution in alcohol??  What was the acid?  For some reason my brain says 
 glacial acetic...but time has made me forget.  Is the alcohol you mix it in 
 100% or something lower with a water content to it?  Please help my 
 alzheimers =)
 Happy Thursday!!

 Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP)
 Histotechnologist
 Mirna Therapeutics
 2150 Woodward Street
 Suite 100
 Austin, Texas  78744
 (512)901-0900 ext. 6912



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Re: [Histonet] Respirators and Routine Histology

2012-01-05 Thread Emily Sours
When I work with xylene, it's always in the fume hood while wearing
gloves.  The same goes for formaldehyde.  I never use a face shield for
anything, I just do it in the fume hood if I need to use caution with a
certain chemical.

Emily

The whole point of this country is if you want to eat garbage, balloon up
to 600 pounds and die of a heart attack at 43, you can! You are free to do
so. To me, that’s beautiful.
--Ron Swanson
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