[Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and future trends

2012-10-31 Thread Webster, Thomas S.
I am scared to see what is going to happen to the technical component of 88305 
next month. A consultant is telling people to prepare for a 10 to 20 percent 
cut. Immunos and cytology enhancement 88112 are going to be slashed for 2014. 
It's going to be very difficult for smaller AP labs to survive. The medicare 
business helps keep the doors open for some labs with low client pricing and 
the other payers will reduce payments as well.


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Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and future trends

2012-10-31 Thread Daniel Schneider
I don't doubt what you're saying, but can you source this info more 
specifically than a consultant?  I'm going to discuss this with my colleagues 
and they're going to ask me.

Needless to say, a 10-20% cut in the TC of 88305, coming down the pipe in a 
month or two, is a big deal.

Dan Schneider, MD

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On Oct 31, 2012, at 6:49 AM, Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org wrote:

 I am scared to see what is going to happen to the technical component of 
 88305 next month. A consultant is telling people to prepare for a 10 to 20 
 percent cut. Immunos and cytology enhancement 88112 are going to be slashed 
 for 2014. It's going to be very difficult for smaller AP labs to survive. The 
 medicare business helps keep the doors open for some labs with low client 
 pricing and the other payers will reduce payments as well.
 
 
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RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and future trends

2012-10-31 Thread Weems, Joyce K.
Please share with all. I'd like to know too.

Thanks,

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To: Webster, Thomas S.
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future trends

I don't doubt what you're saying, but can you source this info more 
specifically than a consultant?  I'm going to discuss this with my colleagues 
and they're going to ask me.

Needless to say, a 10-20% cut in the TC of 88305, coming down the pipe in a 
month or two, is a big deal.

Dan Schneider, MD

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2012, at 6:49 AM, Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org wrote:

 I am scared to see what is going to happen to the technical component of 
 88305 next month. A consultant is telling people to prepare for a 10 to 20 
 percent cut. Immunos and cytology enhancement 88112 are going to be slashed 
 for 2014. It's going to be very difficult for smaller AP labs to survive. The 
 medicare business helps keep the doors open for some labs with low client 
 pricing and the other payers will reduce payments as well.


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[Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and future trends

2012-10-31 Thread Webster, Thomas S.
Here is what CAP has on their website about the issue.
Only the TC of 88305 is being discussed for 2013. We should know fairly soon 
the decision.
More codes have been flagged as overvalued as well that could be cut for 2014 
(PC and TC at this point).

http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/advocacy/advocacy_issues/revaluation.pdf


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Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and future trends

2012-10-31 Thread Brendal Finlay
This is disturbing news. As an employee of an in-house lab (which started in 
1996/1997) that does mostly skins, GI biopsies, and outpatient surgery 
specimens I'm pretty disheartened to hear about the 88305 issue. Melanoma 
excisions, prostates (even lower block # cases, we don't always get 12), breast 
biopsies, and other more difficult cases can be a lot of work on both the 
professional  technical end of things.  

As for prostate biopsies, CMS has already lowered reimbursement with the G 
codes. This is despite the wording that they are for saturation biopsies. We 
rarely have saturation biopsies, but Medicare denies us the 88305 charge if 
more than 5 specimens. 

Other insurance companies tend to follow their lead  after a little time.  I 
believe reimbursement is 50-75% less for 5-20 biopsies, but don't quote me on 
that.  I expect we may see the end of saturation and multi-container prostate 
biopsies in the near future. 

Another issue for many outpatient labs in my area is that larger insurances are 
requiring their patients to go to large multinational labs.  We cannot accept 
many PPOs or Medicare replacement plans because of this. 

I feel it can be a disservice to the patient because they do not get the same 
personal, local service with good turn around times. Even my insurance requires 
me to go to one of these labs where I feel inconvenienced and frustrated at the 
wait time required to submit my sample and get results to my physician. 

On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org wrote:

 Here is what CAP has on their website about the issue.
 Only the TC of 88305 is being discussed for 2013. We should know fairly soon 
 the decision.
 More codes have been flagged as overvalued as well that could be cut for 2014 
 (PC and TC at this point).
 
 http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/advocacy/advocacy_issues/revaluation.pdf
 
 
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[Histonet] Block/Slide placeholders

2012-10-31 Thread Elizabeth Cameron
Does anyone know where I can get the little cardboard tabs that you use as 
placeholders when a block or slide is pulled from the file?
Thanks!
-Liz

Elizabeth M. Cameron, HT, QIHC (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
The Jackson Laboratory
Bar Harbor, Maine
207-288-6326


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Re: [Histonet] Block/Slide placeholders

2012-10-31 Thread Will Chappell
Th product comes unassembled from any vendor, office supply store, paper store, 
or side of box. Just apply scissors as appropriate.

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On Oct 31, 2012, at 6:58 AM, Elizabeth Cameron elizabeth.came...@jax.org 
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 Does anyone know where I can get the little cardboard tabs that you use as 
 placeholders when a block or slide is pulled from the file?
 Thanks!
 -Liz
 
 Elizabeth M. Cameron, HT, QIHC (ASCP)
 Histology Supervisor
 The Jackson Laboratory
 Bar Harbor, Maine
 207-288-6326
 
 
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RE: [Histonet] Block/Slide placeholders

2012-10-31 Thread Elizabeth Cameron
Thank you to all who replied!
Lab Storage Systems also has them.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:15 AM
To: Elizabeth Cameron
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Block/Slide placeholders

Mercedes Medical sells them

Kaye

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Cameron
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:58 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Block/Slide placeholders

Does anyone know where I can get the little cardboard tabs that you use as 
placeholders when a block or slide is pulled from the file?
Thanks!
-Liz

Elizabeth M. Cameron, HT, QIHC (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
The Jackson Laboratory
Bar Harbor, Maine
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Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and future trends

2012-10-31 Thread Rene J Buesa
To everybody worrying for something that has NOT happen yet and that NOBODY 
knows if will happen.
These are pure speculations.
Do not put the cart before the horses. I do not think that this scary scenario 
is in the near future.
René J.



From: Brendal Finlay brendal.fin...@medicalcenterclinic.com
To: Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org 
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and 
future trends

This is disturbing news. As an employee of an in-house lab (which started in 
1996/1997) that does mostly skins, GI biopsies, and outpatient surgery 
specimens I'm pretty disheartened to hear about the 88305 issue. Melanoma 
excisions, prostates (even lower block # cases, we don't always get 12), breast 
biopsies, and other more difficult cases can be a lot of work on both the 
professional  technical end of things.  

As for prostate biopsies, CMS has already lowered reimbursement with the G 
codes. This is despite the wording that they are for saturation biopsies. We 
rarely have saturation biopsies, but Medicare denies us the 88305 charge if 
more than 5 specimens. 

Other insurance companies tend to follow their lead  after a little time.  I 
believe reimbursement is 50-75% less for 5-20 biopsies, but don't quote me on 
that.  I expect we may see the end of saturation and multi-container prostate 
biopsies in the near future. 

Another issue for many outpatient labs in my area is that larger insurances are 
requiring their patients to go to large multinational labs.  We cannot accept 
many PPOs or Medicare replacement plans because of this. 

I feel it can be a disservice to the patient because they do not get the same 
personal, local service with good turn around times. Even my insurance requires 
me to go to one of these labs where I feel inconvenienced and frustrated at the 
wait time required to submit my sample and get results to my physician. 

On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org wrote:

 Here is what CAP has on their website about the issue.
 Only the TC of 88305 is being discussed for 2013. We should know fairly soon 
 the decision.
 More codes have been flagged as overvalued as well that could be cut for 2014 
 (PC and TC at this point).
 
 http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/advocacy/advocacy_issues/revaluation.pdf
 
 
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Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) andfuture trends

2012-10-31 Thread Rene J Buesa
Kaye:
Sure!
The odd thing that struck me is that this fictitious scenario was planted 
on Histonet just a few day before the presidential election and I am suspicious 
of the final intent of the posting.
Is it to link a frightening scenario with the so called Obama care?
Is it the possible solution of this imaginary scenario to eliminate Obama 
care as has been promised by Romney?
Is this a way to get a few additinal votes for Romney? I would not be surprised 
at all!
I am always very suspicious of coincidences because coincidences do not 
exist.
René J.



From: Kaye Ryan kr...@nfderm.com
To: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

THANK YOU SO MUCH, RENEE!

Kaye

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:51 AM
To: Brendal Finlay; Webster, Thomas S.
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

To everybody worrying for something that has NOT happen yet and that NOBODY 
knows if will happen.
These are pure speculations.
Do not put the cart before the horses. I do not think that this scary scenario 
is in the near future.
René J.



From: Brendal Finlay brendal.fin...@medicalcenterclinic.com
To: Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org 
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and 
future trends

This is disturbing news. As an employee of an in-house lab (which started in 
1996/1997) that does mostly skins, GI biopsies, and outpatient surgery 
specimens I'm pretty disheartened to hear about the 88305 issue. Melanoma 
excisions, prostates (even lower block # cases, we don't always get 12), breast 
biopsies, and other more difficult cases can be a lot of work on both the 
professional  technical end of things.  

As for prostate biopsies, CMS has already lowered reimbursement with the G 
codes. This is despite the wording that they are for saturation biopsies. We 
rarely have saturation biopsies, but Medicare denies us the 88305 charge if 
more than 5 specimens. 

Other insurance companies tend to follow their lead  after a little time.  I 
believe reimbursement is 50-75% less for 5-20 biopsies, but don't quote me on 
that.  I expect we may see the end of saturation and multi-container prostate 
biopsies in the near future. 

Another issue for many outpatient labs in my area is that larger insurances are 
requiring their patients to go to large multinational labs.  We cannot accept 
many PPOs or Medicare replacement plans because of this. 

I feel it can be a disservice to the patient because they do not get the same 
personal, local service with good turn around times. Even my insurance requires 
me to go to one of these labs where I feel inconvenienced and frustrated at the 
wait time required to submit my sample and get results to my physician. 

On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org wrote:

 Here is what CAP has on their website about the issue.
 Only the TC of 88305 is being discussed for 2013. We should know fairly soon 
 the decision.
 More codes have been flagged as overvalued as well that could be cut for 2014 
 (PC and TC at this point).
 
 http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/advocacy/advocacy_issues/revaluation.pdf
 
 
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RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) andfuture trends

2012-10-31 Thread Bitting, Angela K.
Here we go with the political opinions again. They have no place on this forum. 
It's bad enough that Facebook is polluted with them.

Have a nice day!

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 11:03 AM
To: Kaye Ryan
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

Kaye:
Sure!
The odd thing that struck me is that this fictitious scenario was planted 
on Histonet just a few day before the presidential election and I am suspicious 
of the final intent of the posting.
Is it to link a frightening scenario with the so called Obama care?
Is it the possible solution of this imaginary scenario to eliminate Obama 
care as has been promised by Romney?
Is this a way to get a few additinal votes for Romney? I would not be surprised 
at all!
I am always very suspicious of coincidences because coincidences do not 
exist.
René J.



From: Kaye Ryan kr...@nfderm.com
To: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

THANK YOU SO MUCH, RENEE!

Kaye

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:51 AM
To: Brendal Finlay; Webster, Thomas S.
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

To everybody worrying for something that has NOT happen yet and that NOBODY 
knows if will happen.
These are pure speculations.
Do not put the cart before the horses. I do not think that this scary scenario 
is in the near future.
René J.



From: Brendal Finlay brendal.fin...@medicalcenterclinic.com
To: Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and 
future trends

This is disturbing news. As an employee of an in-house lab (which started in 
1996/1997) that does mostly skins, GI biopsies, and outpatient surgery 
specimens I'm pretty disheartened to hear about the 88305 issue. Melanoma 
excisions, prostates (even lower block # cases, we don't always get 12), breast 
biopsies, and other more difficult cases can be a lot of work on both the 
professional  technical end of things.  

As for prostate biopsies, CMS has already lowered reimbursement with the G 
codes. This is despite the wording that they are for saturation biopsies. We 
rarely have saturation biopsies, but Medicare denies us the 88305 charge if 
more than 5 specimens. 

Other insurance companies tend to follow their lead  after a little time.  I 
believe reimbursement is 50-75% less for 5-20 biopsies, but don't quote me on 
that.  I expect we may see the end of saturation and multi-container prostate 
biopsies in the near future. 

Another issue for many outpatient labs in my area is that larger insurances are 
requiring their patients to go to large multinational labs.  We cannot accept 
many PPOs or Medicare replacement plans because of this. 

I feel it can be a disservice to the patient because they do not get the same 
personal, local service with good turn around times. Even my insurance requires 
me to go to one of these labs where I feel inconvenienced and frustrated at the 
wait time required to submit my sample and get results to my physician. 

On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org wrote:

 Here is what CAP has on their website about the issue.
 Only the TC of 88305 is being discussed for 2013. We should know fairly soon 
 the decision.
 More codes have been flagged as overvalued as well that could be cut for 2014 
 (PC and TC at this point).
 
 http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/advocacy/advocacy_issues/revaluation.pdf
 
 
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RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) andfuture trends

2012-10-31 Thread Nails, Felton
Let's face it POL's were established to make more money for the groups, which 
takes money from the big reference labs who have large lobbyist groups.
HUM, I wonder who maybe driving these efforts. 

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Bitting, Angela 
K.
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:07 AM
To: Rene J Buesa; Kaye Ryan
Cc: Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

Here we go with the political opinions again. They have no place on this forum. 
It's bad enough that Facebook is polluted with them.

Have a nice day!

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 11:03 AM
To: Kaye Ryan
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

Kaye:
Sure!
The odd thing that struck me is that this fictitious scenario was planted 
on Histonet just a few day before the presidential election and I am suspicious 
of the final intent of the posting.
Is it to link a frightening scenario with the so called Obama care?
Is it the possible solution of this imaginary scenario to eliminate Obama 
care as has been promised by Romney?
Is this a way to get a few additinal votes for Romney? I would not be surprised 
at all!
I am always very suspicious of coincidences because coincidences do not 
exist.
René J.



From: Kaye Ryan kr...@nfderm.com
To: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

THANK YOU SO MUCH, RENEE!

Kaye

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:51 AM
To: Brendal Finlay; Webster, Thomas S.
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

To everybody worrying for something that has NOT happen yet and that NOBODY 
knows if will happen.
These are pure speculations.
Do not put the cart before the horses. I do not think that this scary scenario 
is in the near future.
René J.



From: Brendal Finlay brendal.fin...@medicalcenterclinic.com
To: Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and 
future trends

This is disturbing news. As an employee of an in-house lab (which started in 
1996/1997) that does mostly skins, GI biopsies, and outpatient surgery 
specimens I'm pretty disheartened to hear about the 88305 issue. Melanoma 
excisions, prostates (even lower block # cases, we don't always get 12), breast 
biopsies, and other more difficult cases can be a lot of work on both the 
professional  technical end of things.  

As for prostate biopsies, CMS has already lowered reimbursement with the G 
codes. This is despite the wording that they are for saturation biopsies. We 
rarely have saturation biopsies, but Medicare denies us the 88305 charge if 
more than 5 specimens. 

Other insurance companies tend to follow their lead  after a little time.  I 
believe reimbursement is 50-75% less for 5-20 biopsies, but don't quote me on 
that.  I expect we may see the end of saturation and multi-container prostate 
biopsies in the near future. 

Another issue for many outpatient labs in my area is that larger insurances are 
requiring their patients to go to large multinational labs.  We cannot accept 
many PPOs or Medicare replacement plans because of this. 

I feel it can be a disservice to the patient because they do not get the same 
personal, local service with good turn around times. Even my insurance requires 
me to go to one of these labs where I feel inconvenienced and frustrated at the 
wait time required to submit my sample and get results to my physician. 

On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org wrote:

 Here is what CAP has on their website about the issue.
 Only the TC of 88305 is being discussed for 2013. We should know fairly soon 
 the decision.
 More codes have been flagged as overvalued as well that could be cut for 2014 
 (PC and TC at this point).
 
 http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/advocacy/advocacy_issues/revaluation.pdf
 
 
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RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) andfuture trends

2012-10-31 Thread Hermina Borgerink
Thank you!!! I couldn't agree with you more. Those were my exact thoughts when 
I read the initial e-mail.

Hermina 

Hermina M. Borgerink, MA, HT(ASCP)HTL, QIHC
Wake Forest University Primate Center
Department of Pathology
Medical Center Blvd.
Winston-Salem, N C  27157
Tel. (336) 716-1538
Fax (336) 716-1515
Email: hborg...@wakehealth.edu


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 11:03 AM
To: Kaye Ryan
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

Kaye:
Sure!
The odd thing that struck me is that this fictitious scenario was planted 
on Histonet just a few day before the presidential election and I am suspicious 
of the final intent of the posting.
Is it to link a frightening scenario with the so called Obama care?
Is it the possible solution of this imaginary scenario to eliminate Obama 
care as has been promised by Romney?
Is this a way to get a few additinal votes for Romney? I would not be surprised 
at all!
I am always very suspicious of coincidences because coincidences do not 
exist.
René J.



From: Kaye Ryan kr...@nfderm.com
To: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

THANK YOU SO MUCH, RENEE!

Kaye

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:51 AM
To: Brendal Finlay; Webster, Thomas S.
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

To everybody worrying for something that has NOT happen yet and that NOBODY 
knows if will happen.
These are pure speculations.
Do not put the cart before the horses. I do not think that this scary scenario 
is in the near future.
René J.



From: Brendal Finlay brendal.fin...@medicalcenterclinic.com
To: Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and 
future trends

This is disturbing news. As an employee of an in-house lab (which started in 
1996/1997) that does mostly skins, GI biopsies, and outpatient surgery 
specimens I'm pretty disheartened to hear about the 88305 issue. Melanoma 
excisions, prostates (even lower block # cases, we don't always get 12), breast 
biopsies, and other more difficult cases can be a lot of work on both the 
professional  technical end of things.  

As for prostate biopsies, CMS has already lowered reimbursement with the G 
codes. This is despite the wording that they are for saturation biopsies. We 
rarely have saturation biopsies, but Medicare denies us the 88305 charge if 
more than 5 specimens. 

Other insurance companies tend to follow their lead  after a little time.  I 
believe reimbursement is 50-75% less for 5-20 biopsies, but don't quote me on 
that.  I expect we may see the end of saturation and multi-container prostate 
biopsies in the near future. 

Another issue for many outpatient labs in my area is that larger insurances are 
requiring their patients to go to large multinational labs.  We cannot accept 
many PPOs or Medicare replacement plans because of this. 

I feel it can be a disservice to the patient because they do not get the same 
personal, local service with good turn around times. Even my insurance requires 
me to go to one of these labs where I feel inconvenienced and frustrated at the 
wait time required to submit my sample and get results to my physician. 

On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org wrote:

 Here is what CAP has on their website about the issue.
 Only the TC of 88305 is being discussed for 2013. We should know fairly soon 
 the decision.
 More codes have been flagged as overvalued as well that could be cut for 2014 
 (PC and TC at this point).
 
 http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/advocacy/advocacy_issues/revaluation.pdf
 
 
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RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) andfuture trends

2012-10-31 Thread Bitting, Angela K.
I'm going back to Facebook now. Let me know when this thread poops out.

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Hermina 
Borgerink
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 11:33 AM
To: Rene J Buesa; Kaye Ryan
Cc: Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

Thank you!!! I couldn't agree with you more. Those were my exact thoughts when 
I read the initial e-mail.

Hermina 

Hermina M. Borgerink, MA, HT(ASCP)HTL, QIHC Wake Forest University Primate 
Center Department of Pathology Medical Center Blvd.
Winston-Salem, N C  27157
Tel. (336) 716-1538
Fax (336) 716-1515
Email: hborg...@wakehealth.edu


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 11:03 AM
To: Kaye Ryan
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

Kaye:
Sure!
The odd thing that struck me is that this fictitious scenario was planted 
on Histonet just a few day before the presidential election and I am suspicious 
of the final intent of the posting.
Is it to link a frightening scenario with the so called Obama care?
Is it the possible solution of this imaginary scenario to eliminate Obama 
care as has been promised by Romney?
Is this a way to get a few additinal votes for Romney? I would not be surprised 
at all!
I am always very suspicious of coincidences because coincidences do not 
exist.
René J.



From: Kaye Ryan kr...@nfderm.com
To: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

THANK YOU SO MUCH, RENEE!

Kaye

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:51 AM
To: Brendal Finlay; Webster, Thomas S.
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

To everybody worrying for something that has NOT happen yet and that NOBODY 
knows if will happen.
These are pure speculations.
Do not put the cart before the horses. I do not think that this scary scenario 
is in the near future.
René J.



From: Brendal Finlay brendal.fin...@medicalcenterclinic.com
To: Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and 
future trends

This is disturbing news. As an employee of an in-house lab (which started in 
1996/1997) that does mostly skins, GI biopsies, and outpatient surgery 
specimens I'm pretty disheartened to hear about the 88305 issue. Melanoma 
excisions, prostates (even lower block # cases, we don't always get 12), breast 
biopsies, and other more difficult cases can be a lot of work on both the 
professional  technical end of things.  

As for prostate biopsies, CMS has already lowered reimbursement with the G 
codes. This is despite the wording that they are for saturation biopsies. We 
rarely have saturation biopsies, but Medicare denies us the 88305 charge if 
more than 5 specimens. 

Other insurance companies tend to follow their lead  after a little time.  I 
believe reimbursement is 50-75% less for 5-20 biopsies, but don't quote me on 
that.  I expect we may see the end of saturation and multi-container prostate 
biopsies in the near future. 

Another issue for many outpatient labs in my area is that larger insurances are 
requiring their patients to go to large multinational labs.  We cannot accept 
many PPOs or Medicare replacement plans because of this. 

I feel it can be a disservice to the patient because they do not get the same 
personal, local service with good turn around times. Even my insurance requires 
me to go to one of these labs where I feel inconvenienced and frustrated at the 
wait time required to submit my sample and get results to my physician. 

On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org wrote:

 Here is what CAP has on their website about the issue.
 Only the TC of 88305 is being discussed for 2013. We should know fairly soon 
 the decision.
 More codes have been flagged as overvalued as well that could be cut for 2014 
 (PC and TC at this point).
 
 http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/advocacy/advocacy_issues/revaluation.pdf
 
 
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[Histonet] RE: Block/Slide placeholders

2012-10-31 Thread Joe W. Walker, Jr.
We use old business cards cut in half.  The back works great to write all on 
the information you need when slides or blocks are removed.

Joe W. Walker, Jr. MS, SCT(ASCP)CM
Anatomical Pathology Manager
Rutland Regional Medical Center
160 Allen Street, Rutland, VT 05701
P: 802.747.1790  F: 802.747.6525
NEW EMAIL: joewal...@rrmc.org
www.rrmc.org

Our Vision:
To be the Best Community Healthcare System in New England

Rutland Regional...Vermont's 1st Hospital to Achieve Both ANCC Magnet 
Recognition® and the Governor's Award for Performance Excellence


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Elizabeth 
Cameron
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:58 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Block/Slide placeholders

Does anyone know where I can get the little cardboard tabs that you use as 
placeholders when a block or slide is pulled from the file?
Thanks!
-Liz

Elizabeth M. Cameron, HT, QIHC (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
The Jackson Laboratory
Bar Harbor, Maine
207-288-6326


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[Histonet] RE: Block/Slide placeholders

2012-10-31 Thread Brendal Finlay
Index cards work also.


Brendal Finlay, HT (ASCP)
Medical Center Clinic
brendal.fin...@medicalcenterclinic.com
850.474.8758
http://medicalcenterclinic.com
-Original message-
From: Joe W. Walker, Jr. joewal...@rrmc.org
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:20:57 -0500
To: Elizabeth Cameron elizabeth.came...@jax.org,
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Block/Slide placeholders

We use old business cards cut in half. The back works great to write
all on the information you need when slides or blocks are removed.

Joe W. Walker, Jr. MS, SCT(ASCP)CM
Anatomical Pathology Manager
Rutland Regional Medical Center
160 Allen Street, Rutland, VT 05701
P: 802.747.1790 F: 802.747.6525
NEW EMAIL: joewal...@rrmc.org
www.rrmc.org

Our Vision:
To be the Best Community Healthcare System in New England

Rutland Regional...Vermont's 1st Hospital to Achieve Both ANCC Magnet
Recognition® and the Governor's Award for Performance Excellence


-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Elizabeth Cameron
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:58 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Block/Slide placeholders

Does anyone know where I can get the little cardboard tabs that you
use as placeholders when a block or slide is pulled from the file?
Thanks!
-Liz

Elizabeth M. Cameron, HT, QIHC (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
The Jackson Laboratory
Bar Harbor, Maine
207-288-6326


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Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and future trends

2012-10-31 Thread H E *

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   Mrs. Buesa,
   I sincerely hope you are not pointing = to me as trying to foment some
   kind  of  fear  to drive voting in one = direction or another.   I did
   state  in my original post that I = hoped we could avoid the political
   vitriol, but I guess because the future = is somewhat foggy as to what
   is going to happen, I should have just left = out mention of political
   parties/presidents  in  my original post.  = We're mere days away from
   the  final  reconning, so if people haven't done = their due diligence
   and  research  on each candidate and the issues we're = facing, basing
   your  decision  on  some  comments on a forum might be a poor = way to
   base such an important decision.
   The  trending  in  POL's  is  = currently having a DIRECT effect on my
   employment  situation,  so  that  was = the motivation for my original
   post.I  would  like to = understand the landscape and ecosystem of
   private  labs,  POL's,  large = references labs and the like, and I am
   only  just starting to understand = the labrynth that is the medicaire
   billing  system.How this = all plays out is going to effect us all
   directly, so it is I guess = understandable that opinions and emotions
   almost can't be filtered out of = the discussion.  Our livelihoods are
   on the line.
   My  sincere  = appologies though if I have ruffled too many feathers
here. I was merely looking for deeper insight and = knowledge into
   the  topic.One  topic that seems to have been = raised though, and
   wich  I  tend  to agree, is there is some bloat, or = overinflation of
   procedures  going  on,  which  cuts  to  the  heart  of the issue = --
   monetary incentives to inflate charges and thus revenue, especially if
   =  Pathologists  are  now  able  to get an extra cut of the lab-fees
involved.Personally  I  don't  think  it's  a bad idea at all to
scrutinize  very closely what is going on with this, even if it upsets
   the  =  balance  and flows of money... if it leads to a more efficient
   and just = system.
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[Histonet] Re: Peptide needed for peptide competition

2012-10-31 Thread Eva Permaul
Does anyone have any suggestions?


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Eva Permaul e...@georgetown.edu wrote:

 Good morning,
 I need to do a peptide competition for one of the antibodies we are using
 for IHC on FFPE. The company does not offer the peptide but the datasheet
 does have the sequence. Who do you use to generate peptides? Can you
 recommend any particular company?
 Thank you in advance for all of your valuable advice,
 Eva Permaul
 Georgetown University

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RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) andfuture trends

2012-10-31 Thread Marsh, Nannette
Great observation Rene'.  Thank you 

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:03 AM
To: Kaye Ryan
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

Kaye:
Sure!
The odd thing that struck me is that this fictitious scenario was planted 
on Histonet just a few day before the presidential election and I am suspicious 
of the final intent of the posting.
Is it to link a frightening scenario with the so called Obama care?
Is it the possible solution of this imaginary scenario to eliminate Obama 
care as has been promised by Romney?
Is this a way to get a few additinal votes for Romney? I would not be surprised 
at all!
I am always very suspicious of coincidences because coincidences do not 
exist.
René J.



From: Kaye Ryan kr...@nfderm.com
To: Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

THANK YOU SO MUCH, RENEE!

Kaye

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:51 AM
To: Brendal Finlay; Webster, Thomas S.
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) 
andfuture trends

To everybody worrying for something that has NOT happen yet and that NOBODY 
knows if will happen.
These are pure speculations.
Do not put the cart before the horses. I do not think that this scary scenario 
is in the near future.
René J.



From: Brendal Finlay brendal.fin...@medicalcenterclinic.com
To: Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] The Rise of Physician Owned/Operated Labs (POLs) and 
future trends

This is disturbing news. As an employee of an in-house lab (which started in 
1996/1997) that does mostly skins, GI biopsies, and outpatient surgery 
specimens I'm pretty disheartened to hear about the 88305 issue. Melanoma 
excisions, prostates (even lower block # cases, we don't always get 12), breast 
biopsies, and other more difficult cases can be a lot of work on both the 
professional  technical end of things.  

As for prostate biopsies, CMS has already lowered reimbursement with the G 
codes. This is despite the wording that they are for saturation biopsies. We 
rarely have saturation biopsies, but Medicare denies us the 88305 charge if 
more than 5 specimens. 

Other insurance companies tend to follow their lead  after a little time.  I 
believe reimbursement is 50-75% less for 5-20 biopsies, but don't quote me on 
that.  I expect we may see the end of saturation and multi-container prostate 
biopsies in the near future. 

Another issue for many outpatient labs in my area is that larger insurances are 
requiring their patients to go to large multinational labs.  We cannot accept 
many PPOs or Medicare replacement plans because of this. 

I feel it can be a disservice to the patient because they do not get the same 
personal, local service with good turn around times. Even my insurance requires 
me to go to one of these labs where I feel inconvenienced and frustrated at the 
wait time required to submit my sample and get results to my physician. 

On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Webster, Thomas S. twebs...@crh.org wrote:

 Here is what CAP has on their website about the issue.
 Only the TC of 88305 is being discussed for 2013. We should know fairly soon 
 the decision.
 More codes have been flagged as overvalued as well that could be cut for 2014 
 (PC and TC at this point).
 
 http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/advocacy/advocacy_issues/revaluation.pdf
 
 
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[Histonet] Re: POL

2012-10-31 Thread Contact HistoCare


 My eyelids and brain, more specifically my visual cortex hurts from trying to 
 process that last response! :)
 
 -M
 
 Quality Results and Reliable Histology Staffing
 
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[Histonet] Tritium whole body autoradiography

2012-10-31 Thread Pedro Brugarolas
Hi,
 
I am interested in doing whole body cryosections (10-50 um thick) of adult mice 
(~9x3 cm) for whole body autoradiography studies. We own a Leica CM1850 
cryostat but unfortunately the knife clearance is not long enough for these 
large samples. Can anyone tell me what kind of cryostat we need for these 
sections? Does anyone know any histology lab in Chicago or elsewhere that could 
help us cutting these specimens? These would be tritium injected 14 week old 
fresh frozen (unfixed) mice.

Thank you,

Pedro Brugarolas
The University of Chicago

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[Histonet] POL labs

2012-10-31 Thread Nicole Tatum
Let me start by sharing this:

Definition of FREE ENTERPRISE
: freedom of private business to organize and operate for profit in a
competitive system without interference by government beyond regulation
necessary to protect public interest and keep the national economy in
balance.

Key Word being For Profit. Health care is a commodity that is bought and
sold and the medical industry is big bucks for our economy. So what if a
POL is for profit, so are some hospitals, pharmaceutical companies,
pharmacies, and the local gas station. My point being is, just because a
POL is for profit does not mean that the facility does not offer the same
quality of care as a national laboratory who is also seeking profit. So,
as far as Im concerned the Doctor, owner, or medical director is able to
bill for any test he performs in his facility that is currently licensed
and regulated. I really dont think the setting should be a factor. We all
will see changes and cuts. I do not believe this thread has any thing to
do specifically with the election. Besides it doesnt really matter what
side of the fence your on. Cuts are comming, dare I say rationing. Even
if socialized medicine does not get passed and Romney wins, Medicare will
have to decrease its allowable payouts each year.  I personally am more
worried about what that will mean for our payscale. For those of you who
dont know me, I DO work in a POL lab. Im not bias, but I don't think the
location of my lab is relative to the fact that it shouldn't be allowed to
exist because its for profit. Just my thought. Happy Halloween to all.

Nicole Tatum, HT ASCP



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RE: [Histonet] POL labs

2012-10-31 Thread Kienitz, Kari
Hooray Nicole! Very well stated.


Kari Kienitz HT, (ASCP)
Histology Laboratory
Portland Gastroenterology
The Oregon Clinic
 NE 99th Ave
Portland, OR  97220
503.935.8311
kkien...@orclinic.com

From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nicole Tatum 
[nic...@dlcjax.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:39 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] POL labs

Let me start by sharing this:

Definition of FREE ENTERPRISE
: freedom of private business to organize and operate for profit in a
competitive system without interference by government beyond regulation
necessary to protect public interest and keep the national economy in
balance.

Key Word being For Profit. Health care is a commodity that is bought and
sold and the medical industry is big bucks for our economy. So what if a
POL is for profit, so are some hospitals, pharmaceutical companies,
pharmacies, and the local gas station. My point being is, just because a
POL is for profit does not mean that the facility does not offer the same
quality of care as a national laboratory who is also seeking profit. So,
as far as Im concerned the Doctor, owner, or medical director is able to
bill for any test he performs in his facility that is currently licensed
and regulated. I really dont think the setting should be a factor. We all
will see changes and cuts. I do not believe this thread has any thing to
do specifically with the election. Besides it doesnt really matter what
side of the fence your on. Cuts are comming, dare I say rationing. Even
if socialized medicine does not get passed and Romney wins, Medicare will
have to decrease its allowable payouts each year.  I personally am more
worried about what that will mean for our payscale. For those of you who
dont know me, I DO work in a POL lab. Im not bias, but I don't think the
location of my lab is relative to the fact that it shouldn't be allowed to
exist because its for profit. Just my thought. Happy Halloween to all.

Nicole Tatum, HT ASCP



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RE: [Histonet] POL labs

2012-10-31 Thread Blazek, Linda
Thanks Nicole.  Well said!  When a local hospital has a CEO hauling in 4+ 
million annually and they are nonprofit it makes me question

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nicole Tatum
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:40 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] POL labs

Let me start by sharing this:

Definition of FREE ENTERPRISE
: freedom of private business to organize and operate for profit in a 
competitive system without interference by government beyond regulation 
necessary to protect public interest and keep the national economy in balance.

Key Word being For Profit. Health care is a commodity that is bought and sold 
and the medical industry is big bucks for our economy. So what if a POL is for 
profit, so are some hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, pharmacies, and the 
local gas station. My point being is, just because a POL is for profit does not 
mean that the facility does not offer the same quality of care as a national 
laboratory who is also seeking profit. So, as far as Im concerned the Doctor, 
owner, or medical director is able to bill for any test he performs in his 
facility that is currently licensed and regulated. I really dont think the 
setting should be a factor. We all will see changes and cuts. I do not believe 
this thread has any thing to do specifically with the election. Besides it 
doesnt really matter what side of the fence your on. Cuts are comming, dare I 
say rationing. Even if socialized medicine does not get passed and Romney 
wins, Medicare will have to decrease its allowable payouts each year.  I 
personally am more worried about what that will mean for our payscale. For 
those of you who dont know me, I DO work in a POL lab. Im not bias, but I don't 
think the location of my lab is relative to the fact that it shouldn't be 
allowed to exist because its for profit. Just my thought. Happy Halloween to 
all.

Nicole Tatum, HT ASCP



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RE: [Histonet] POL labs

2012-10-31 Thread MaryK Mendell
Thanks Nicole  

Kate Mendell
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Blazek, Linda 
[lbla...@digestivespecialists.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:58 PM
To: 'Nicole Tatum'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] POL labs

Thanks Nicole.  Well said!  When a local hospital has a CEO hauling in 4+ 
million annually and they are nonprofit it makes me question

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nicole Tatum
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:40 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] POL labs

Let me start by sharing this:

Definition of FREE ENTERPRISE
: freedom of private business to organize and operate for profit in a 
competitive system without interference by government beyond regulation 
necessary to protect public interest and keep the national economy in balance.

Key Word being For Profit. Health care is a commodity that is bought and sold 
and the medical industry is big bucks for our economy. So what if a POL is for 
profit, so are some hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, pharmacies, and the 
local gas station. My point being is, just because a POL is for profit does not 
mean that the facility does not offer the same quality of care as a national 
laboratory who is also seeking profit. So, as far as Im concerned the Doctor, 
owner, or medical director is able to bill for any test he performs in his 
facility that is currently licensed and regulated. I really dont think the 
setting should be a factor. We all will see changes and cuts. I do not believe 
this thread has any thing to do specifically with the election. Besides it 
doesnt really matter what side of the fence your on. Cuts are comming, dare I 
say rationing. Even if socialized medicine does not get passed and Romney 
wins, Medicare will have to decrease its allowable payouts each year.  I 
personally am more worried about what that will mean for our payscale. For 
those of you who dont know me, I DO work in a POL lab. Im not bias, but I don't 
think the location of my lab is relative to the fact that it shouldn't be 
allowed to exist because its for profit. Just my thought. Happy Halloween to 
all.

Nicole Tatum, HT ASCP



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Re: [Histonet] POL labs

2012-10-31 Thread Kim Donadio
I for one refuse to get into politics here, but I am glad this information was 
posted. Its valuable information and it should be posted. 
 
Thank you Nicole for such a well put response. 
 
Happy Haloween as well all 
 


 From: Blazek, Linda lbla...@digestivespecialists.com
To: 'Nicole Tatum' nic...@dlcjax.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] POL labs
  
Thanks Nicole.  Well said!  When a local hospital has a CEO hauling in 4+ 
million annually and they are nonprofit it makes me question

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nicole Tatum
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:40 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] POL labs

Let me start by sharing this:

Definition of FREE ENTERPRISE
: freedom of private business to organize and operate for profit in a 
competitive system without interference by government beyond regulation 
necessary to protect public interest and keep the national economy in balance.

Key Word being For Profit. Health care is a commodity that is bought and sold 
and the medical industry is big bucks for our economy. So what if a POL is for 
profit, so are some hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, pharmacies, and the 
local gas station. My point being is, just because a POL is for profit does not 
mean that the facility does not offer the same quality of care as a national 
laboratory who is also seeking profit. So, as far as Im concerned the Doctor, 
owner, or medical director is able to bill for any test he performs in his 
facility that is currently licensed and regulated. I really dont think the 
setting should be a factor. We all will see changes and cuts. I do not believe 
this thread has any thing to do specifically with the election. Besides it 
doesnt really matter what side of the fence your on. Cuts are comming, dare I 
say rationing. Even if socialized medicine does not get passed and Romney 
wins, Medicare will have to decrease its
 allowable payouts each year.  I personally am more worried about what that 
will mean for our payscale. For those of you who dont know me, I DO work in a 
POL lab. Im not bias, but I don't think the location of my lab is relative to 
the fact that it shouldn't be allowed to exist because its for profit. Just my 
thought. Happy Halloween to all.

Nicole Tatum, HT ASCP



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[Histonet] request for a little bit of Zinc Formalin

2012-10-31 Thread Cheryl
Hi everybody-
 
We're testing a way to improve some of our IHC staining by inserting a Zinc 
Formalin post-fix step but we can't find just a little bit!  Does anyone have 
ZN formalin where they could send us a little bit--even just 10 ml so I don't 
have to buy a huge bottle we may never use?
Thank you!
 
Cheryl Kerry for
Pathology Group of Louisiana


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RE: [Histonet] POL labs

2012-10-31 Thread Norm Burnham
http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/31/4/741.full?ijkey=2zuxtnRPMwVpAke
ytype=refsiteid=healthaff



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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kim Donadio
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:36 PM
To: Blazek, Linda; 'Nicole Tatum'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] POL labs

I for one refuse to get into politics here, but I am glad this information
was posted. Its valuable information and it should be posted. 
 
Thank you Nicole for such a well put response. 
 
Happy Haloween as well all 
 


 From: Blazek, Linda lbla...@digestivespecialists.com
To: 'Nicole Tatum' nic...@dlcjax.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] POL labs
  
Thanks Nicole.  Well said!  When a local hospital has a CEO hauling in 4+
million annually and they are nonprofit it makes me question

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nicole Tatum
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:40 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] POL labs

Let me start by sharing this:

Definition of FREE ENTERPRISE
: freedom of private business to organize and operate for profit in a
competitive system without interference by government beyond regulation
necessary to protect public interest and keep the national economy in
balance.

Key Word being For Profit. Health care is a commodity that is bought and sold
and the medical industry is big bucks for our economy. So what if a POL is
for profit, so are some hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, pharmacies, and
the local gas station. My point being is, just because a POL is for profit
does not mean that the facility does not offer the same quality of care as a
national laboratory who is also seeking profit. So, as far as Im concerned
the Doctor, owner, or medical director is able to bill for any test he
performs in his facility that is currently licensed and regulated. I really
dont think the setting should be a factor. We all will see changes and cuts.
I do not believe this thread has any thing to do specifically with the
election. Besides it doesnt really matter what side of the fence your on.
Cuts are comming, dare I say rationing. Even if socialized medicine does
not get passed and Romney wins, Medicare will have to decrease its  allowable
payouts each year.  I personally am more worried about what that will mean
for our payscale. For those of you who dont know me, I DO work in a POL lab.
Im not bias, but I don't think the location of my lab is relative to the fact
that it shouldn't be allowed to exist because its for profit. Just my
thought. Happy Halloween to all.

Nicole Tatum, HT ASCP



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