[Histonet] LDT question

2018-08-23 Thread Erin McCarthy via Histonet
Hi All,

I have a validation question - we are looking into buying an RUO rated IHC
stainer for a future multiplexing project. Roche's Discovery Ultra to be
specific.

I have a pathologist that is convinced that we can run our clinical
antibodies on it as an LDT and still bill for the work. The material I have
read up to this point regarding that instrument explicitly states that no
slides can be run for diagnostic purposes. The instrument has software that
allows you to use it to mimic the IVD instruments' software capabilities so
you can validate a protocol on it, then move it right over to the Benchmark
so I can see why the idea that it can run our IVD items seems plausable.
However what I need to know is which is correct?

I do not want to do something that I am uncomfortable doing without
checking with others in my field first.

Thanks!

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Re: [Histonet] Alcian Blue digested w Hyaluronidase - any alternatives?

2018-08-23 Thread Hobbs, Carl via Histonet
You are right!

Thank you for correcting me.

Surely sialomucins will be positive for PAS and H.acid will be negative?


Curious-illy


Carl


Carl Hobbs FIBMS
Histology and Imaging Manager
Wolfson CARD
Guys Campus, London Bridge
Kings College London
London
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From: Mac Donald, Jennifer 
Sent: 23 August 2018 19:52:52
To: Hobbs, Carl
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Alcian Blue digested w Hyaluronidase - any alternatives?

The hyaluronidase is digesting out hyaluronic acid, a component found in 
connective tissue mucins.  This reaction is used to differentiate connective 
tissue mucins from epithelial mucins.  Hyaluronic acid and epithelial 
sialomucins will give the same staining results, both positive for alcian blue 
pH 2.5 and negative for pH 1.0.

-Original Message-
From: Hobbs, Carl via Histonet 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:32 AM
To: histonet 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Alcian Blue digested w Hyaluronidase - any alternatives?

Perhaps Alcian blue at pH3 ( all acidic mucins) on one slide/section  and Ab 
pH1 ( highly sulphated mucins only) on a sequential slide?
Sure, instead  use Alcian blue CEC method?
I will be interested to read other responses to your request.

Mucin-illy

carl




Carl Hobbs FIBMS
Histology and Imaging Manager
Wolfson CARD
Guys Campus, London Bridge
Kings College London
London
SE1 1UL

020 7848 6813
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Re: [Histonet] Alcian Blue digested w Hyaluronidase - any alternatives?

2018-08-23 Thread Mac Donald, Jennifer via Histonet
The hyaluronidase is digesting out hyaluronic acid, a component found in 
connective tissue mucins.  This reaction is used to differentiate connective 
tissue mucins from epithelial mucins.  Hyaluronic acid and epithelial 
sialomucins will give the same staining results, both positive for alcian blue 
pH 2.5 and negative for pH 1.0.

-Original Message-
From: Hobbs, Carl via Histonet  
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:32 AM
To: histonet 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Alcian Blue digested w Hyaluronidase - any alternatives?

Perhaps Alcian blue at pH3 ( all acidic mucins) on one slide/section  and Ab 
pH1 ( highly sulphated mucins only) on a sequential slide?
Sure, instead  use Alcian blue CEC method?
I will be interested to read other responses to your request.

Mucin-illy

carl


  
 
Carl Hobbs FIBMS 
Histology and Imaging Manager 
Wolfson CARD 
Guys Campus, London Bridge  
Kings College London 
London 
SE1 1UL 
  
020 7848 6813
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Re: [Histonet] cadaver tissue processing for histology

2018-08-23 Thread Hobbs, Carl via Histonet


Rinse in dist water ( or tap water) x3 over 30 mins
No big deal to do this but nice to get rid of extra smells in your processing 
reagents ( depending on where you start processing: I start in 90% 
alcoholsure, I ask for recd specimens to be rinsed in water then 
transferred  to 70% alcohol  before I will process them)
Hopefully, you don't want to do IHC as inclusion of Glut. is counterproductive.

Best wishes

Carl


Carl Hobbs FIBMS
Histology and Imaging Manager
Wolfson CARD
Guys Campus, London Bridge 
Kings College London
London
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Re: [Histonet] Alcian Blue digested w Hyaluronidase - any alternatives?

2018-08-23 Thread Hobbs, Carl via Histonet
Perhaps Alcian blue at pH3 ( all acidic mucins) on one slide/section  and Ab 
pH1 ( highly sulphated mucins only) on a sequential slide?
Sure, instead  use Alcian blue CEC method?
I will be interested to read other responses to your request.

Mucin-illy

carl


  
 
Carl Hobbs FIBMS 
Histology and Imaging Manager 
Wolfson CARD 
Guys Campus, London Bridge  
Kings College London 
London 
SE1 1UL 
  
020 7848 6813
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Re: [Histonet] LTP fluid with Phenol

2018-08-23 Thread Terri Braud via Histonet
Here is the approximate chemical make-up of LTP with Phenol.  (LTP stands for 
Long Term Preservation)
Ethanol  48.%
Formaldehyde 20.%
Ethylene Glycol 4.%
Phenol 11.%
Glutaraldehyde 4.%

Due to the presence of Ethylene Glycol, I would let the tissue set in a 
separate container of 10% Neutral Buffered Formalin for 24 hours before 
processing as usual.
I hope this helps. Terri

Terri L. Braud, HT(ASCP)
Anatomic Pathology Supervisor
Laboratory
Holy Redeemer Hospital
1648 Huntingdon Pike
Meadowbrook, PA 19046
ph: 215-938-3689
fax: 215-938-3874
Care, Comfort, and Heal

 4. cadaver tissue processing for histology (Preiszner, Johanna)

Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:59:44 +
From: "Preiszner, Johanna" 
Subject: [Histonet] cadaver tissue processing for histology
Hi,
I got some cadaver tissue floating in "LTP embalming fluid w/ phenol".
Can I put those straight into the processor? Or has to be rinsed/soaked before? 
If so what should I use?
My Internet searches did not bring up anything useful.
Thank you!
Hanna Preiszner
ETSU/QCOM Dept of Pathology


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[Histonet] Windsurg Reports

2018-08-23 Thread Vacca Jessica via Histonet
Afternoon,
Looking to see if anyone has some tipsheets on how to pull embedding logs or 
accession logs from winsurg. I am by no means familiar with the system so if 
you could send me step by step instructions I would really appreciate it!!

Thanks!

Jessica Vacca
HCA Epic Anatomic Pathology Lead

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