Re: [Histonet] Dragon

[E. Wayne Johnson via Histonet]

I use Nuance Dragon for making video scripts, transcribing audio stripped out 
of video recordings, and for dictation of documents.
Until one gets it trained it will create very humourous mondegreens of 
technical terms.
But you can add terms like thromboembolic meningoencephalitis and 
extramedullary haematopoesis which it handles with glee.
It is very fast and it can go as fast as I can talk.
I have a very fine Shure desktop microphone and a Jabra headset.  The Jabra 
headset sounds awful on audio recordings
but is great for dictations.  The Shure microphone sounds awesome but doesnt 
match the Jabra headset for dictation speed and
accuracy.  The worst thing about Dragon is that it is Windows-based and they 
dont have a Linux version and it doesnt run under Wine,
so I have to reboot my machine and start windows when i want to use it.

mModal is a 3M product.  3M medical is pretty stodgy and unfriendly and hard to 
get along with.

E. Wayne Johnson, DVM
Enable AgTech
Beijing

Terri Braud via Histonet wrote:

We were using mModal and are in transition to Voicebrook which uses Dragon as a 
speech recognition set up with SQ CoPath for both grossing and microscopic 
dictations. We have mixed user feelings, too.  Our PA who does the majority of 
the gross, uses it and has lots of templates preset to simplify the gross. She 
uses voice commands to navigate through CoPath.  She is very fast and seldom 
has an error.  With the pathologists, it's a bit of a mixed bag, somewhat 
dependent on how they embrace the technology change.  Proper installation and 
set up, complete with templates is key.  The use of a headset with mic seems to 
produce the best results as opposed to a gooseneck microphone.  I hope this 
helps.  Terri

Terri L. Braud, HT(ASCP)
Anatomic Pathology Supervisor
HNL Labs, Holy Redeemer Hospital
1648 Huntingdon Pike
Meadowbrook, PA 19046
ph: 215-938-3689
fax: 215-938-3874
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 16:48:30 -0500
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Subject: [Histonet] Dragon
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Does anyone use Dragon while grossing? We are looking at switching to Dragon 
and wanted some feedback for use in pathology.
Currently, we use M*Modal for dictations and then have transcriptionists type 
all of the information in Cerner reports.
Thanks!!
Amanda
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I used it exclusively in GI lab for years and loved it but we only did small 
biopsies, so it was super simple.  We use it now throughout the system I work 
in and there are a variety of opinions.  Some of the PAs love it and some 
really struggle.  Same with the pathologists.  So we live in dual worlds with 
both Dragon and MModal.  If you would like to contact me separately I am happy 
to discuss! Thanks Cristi



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Re: [Histonet] Dragon

[Terri Braud via Histonet]

We were using mModal and are in transition to Voicebrook which uses Dragon as a 
speech recognition set up with SQ CoPath for both grossing and microscopic 
dictations. We have mixed user feelings, too.  Our PA who does the majority of 
the gross, uses it and has lots of templates preset to simplify the gross. She 
uses voice commands to navigate through CoPath.  She is very fast and seldom 
has an error.  With the pathologists, it's a bit of a mixed bag, somewhat 
dependent on how they embrace the technology change.  Proper installation and 
set up, complete with templates is key.  The use of a headset with mic seems to 
produce the best results as opposed to a gooseneck microphone.  I hope this 
helps.  Terri

Terri L. Braud, HT(ASCP)
Anatomic Pathology Supervisor
HNL Labs, Holy Redeemer Hospital
1648 Huntingdon Pike
Meadowbrook, PA 19046
ph: 215-938-3689
fax: 215-938-3874
Care, Comfort, and Heal

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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 16:48:30 -0500
From: Amanda Coscetti 
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Subject: [Histonet] Dragon
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Does anyone use Dragon while grossing? We are looking at switching to Dragon 
and wanted some feedback for use in pathology.  
Currently, we use M*Modal for dictations and then have transcriptionists type 
all of the information in Cerner reports. 
Thanks!! 
Amanda 
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 17:01:54 -0500
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To: Amanda Coscetti 
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Dragon
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I used it exclusively in GI lab for years and loved it but we only did small 
biopsies, so it was super simple.  We use it now throughout the system I work 
in and there are a variety of opinions.  Some of the PAs love it and some 
really struggle.  Same with the pathologists.  So we live in dual worlds with 
both Dragon and MModal.  If you would like to contact me separately I am happy 
to discuss! Thanks Cristi



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Re: [Histonet] Dragon

[Cristi Rigazio via Histonet]

I used it exclusively in GI lab for years and loved it but we only did small 
biopsies, so it was super simple.  We use it now throughout the system I work 
in and there are a variety of opinions.  Some of the PAs love it and some 
really struggle.  Same with the pathologists.  So we live in dual worlds with 
both Dragon and MModal.  If you would like to contact me separately I am happy 
to discuss!

Thanks
Cristi

> On Feb 9, 2021, at 4:56 PM, Amanda Coscetti via Histonet 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone use Dragon while grossing? We are looking at switching to Dragon 
> and wanted some feedback for use in pathology.  
> Currently, we use M*Modal for dictations and then have transcriptionists type 
> all of the information in Cerner reports. 
> 
> Thanks!! 
> Amanda 
> 
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[Histonet] Dragon

[Amanda Coscetti via Histonet]

Does anyone use Dragon while grossing? We are looking at switching to Dragon 
and wanted some feedback for use in pathology.  
Currently, we use M*Modal for dictations and then have transcriptionists type 
all of the information in Cerner reports. 

Thanks!! 
Amanda 


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Re: [Histonet] Dragon and Cerner

[Sue]

We use Dragon with CoPath Plus and works great, you can make macros and I know 
my PA have created some quick texts as well.  We actually stared with Kurzweil 
in the 80's and expanded to Dragon speak.  the only time we do not use Dragon 
is with Synoptic, although it works, it is labor intensive. 
  
Susan T. Paturzo 
TJUH 
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[Histonet] Dragon and Cerner

[Mike Pence]

Hey everyone,

Just wondering who out there is successfully using Dragon within the AP 
application of Cerner?

Does it work? Not work? Are you using templates in Dragon or Cerner?

You can PM me if you like. This is a peer benchmarking I would like to compare 
what we do now to what other Cerner users are doing. I don't want to ask this 
question in a Cerner forum where Cerner can control the commentary.

Thanks,
Mike Pence
AP Supervisor
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RE: [Histonet] Dragon Voice Recognition software

[Keyser Gerald T]

Voice to text cannot cope with doctors mumbling into recorders. Even the best 
VRS only hits about 95% of the regular dictionary; which is very good. But, a 
5% error rate is wildly unacceptable in a clinical environment.  

Another parallel is trying to apply handwriting recognition software to a 
physician penmanship. Would totally make the software divide by zero and have a 
fit. 

gerry

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Joelle Weaver
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:59 PM
To: Jay Lundgren; Houston, Ronald
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Dragon Voice Recognition software

The work that can be done in histology-pathology is endless! I know that in 
past positions that sometimes transcriptionists have felt threatened by voice 
recognition dictation and software when it was suggested. I don't really blame 
them for these feelings, but it never turned out the way they worried it might. 
 
Machines or computer software never completely replace people, they don't 
"think", make decisions or have judgment. The people just have to function at a 
higher level or in an alternate way since the rudimentary processes for the 
people are reduced .  
 
I just set up Dragon dictation for the microscopic for the pathologists, but it 
will be in Orchard Pathology, so could not help with the interface to your 
system Ronnie. But it did not replace the information management function or 
its oversight, just changed the tasks that needed to be performed somewhat, and 
increased overall efficiency. 


Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC


  

 
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:07:53 -0500
> From: jaylundg...@gmail.com
> To: ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Dragon Voice Recognition software
> CC: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> 
> I'd imagine it would really upset the transcriptionists, because you 
> wouldn't need them anymore?
> 
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Houston, Ronald < 
> ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org> wrote:
> 
> > Is anyone using this transcribing directly into Sunquest CoPathPlus?
> >
> > How successful was the transition, what problems did you encounter, 
> > and what resistance if any was there from pathologists, PAs and 
> > transcriptionists?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC FIBMS Anatomic Pathology Manager 
> > ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital 
> > www.childlab.com
> >
> > 700 Children's Drive
> > Columbus, OH 43205
> > (P) 614-722-5450
> > (F) 614-722-2899
> > ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org > ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org>
> > www.NationwideChildrens.org<http://www.nationwidechildrens.org/>
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RE: [Histonet] Dragon Voice Recognition software

[Joelle Weaver]

The work that can be done in histology-pathology is endless! I know that in 
past positions that sometimes transcriptionists have felt threatened by voice 
recognition dictation and software when it was suggested. I don't really blame 
them for these feelings, but it never turned out the way they worried it might. 
 
Machines or computer software never completely replace people, they don't 
"think", make decisions or have judgment. The people just have to function at a 
higher level or in an alternate way since the rudimentary processes for the 
people are reduced .  
 
I just set up Dragon dictation for the microscopic for the pathologists, but it 
will be in Orchard Pathology, so could not help with the interface to your 
system Ronnie. But it did not replace the information management function or 
its oversight, just changed the tasks that needed to be performed somewhat, and 
increased overall efficiency. 


Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC


  

 
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:07:53 -0500
> From: jaylundg...@gmail.com
> To: ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Dragon Voice Recognition software
> CC: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> 
> I'd imagine it would really upset the transcriptionists, because you
> wouldn't need them anymore?
> 
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Houston, Ronald <
> ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org> wrote:
> 
> > Is anyone using this transcribing directly into Sunquest CoPathPlus?
> >
> > How successful was the transition, what problems did you encounter, and
> > what resistance if any was there from pathologists, PAs and
> > transcriptionists?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC FIBMS
> > Anatomic Pathology Manager
> > ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital
> > www.childlab.com
> >
> > 700 Children's Drive
> > Columbus, OH 43205
> > (P) 614-722-5450
> > (F) 614-722-2899
> > ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org > ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org>
> > www.NationwideChildrens.org<http://www.nationwidechildrens.org/>
> >
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> > ~ E.M. Forster
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RE: [Histonet] Dragon Voice Recognition software

[Houston, Ronald]

we've got plenty of other tasks for them to do! Plus we are an academic center 
so there are grants to write, articles, abstratcs and presentations to prepare, 
send-outs and consults to handle….the list goes on and on

From: Jay Lundgren [mailto:jaylundg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:08 AM
To: Houston, Ronald
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Dragon Voice Recognition software

I'd imagine it would really upset the transcriptionists, because you wouldn't 
need them anymore?

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Houston, Ronald 
mailto:ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org>>
 wrote:
Is anyone using this transcribing directly into Sunquest CoPathPlus?

How successful was the transition, what problems did you encounter, and what 
resistance if any was there from pathologists, PAs and transcriptionists?

Thanks

Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC FIBMS
Anatomic Pathology Manager
ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital
www.childlab.com<http://www.childlab.com>

700 Children's Drive
Columbus, OH 43205
(P) 614-722-5450
(F) 614-722-2899
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Re: [Histonet] Dragon Voice Recognition software

[Jay Lundgren]

I'd imagine it would really upset the transcriptionists, because you
wouldn't need them anymore?

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Houston, Ronald <
ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org> wrote:

> Is anyone using this transcribing directly into Sunquest CoPathPlus?
>
> How successful was the transition, what problems did you encounter, and
> what resistance if any was there from pathologists, PAs and
> transcriptionists?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC FIBMS
> Anatomic Pathology Manager
> ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital
> www.childlab.com
>
> 700 Children's Drive
> Columbus, OH 43205
> (P) 614-722-5450
> (F) 614-722-2899
> ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org>
> www.NationwideChildrens.org
>
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> ~ E.M. Forster
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[Histonet] Dragon Voice Recognition software

[Houston, Ronald]

Is anyone using this transcribing directly into Sunquest CoPathPlus?

How successful was the transition, what problems did you encounter, and what 
resistance if any was there from pathologists, PAs and transcriptionists?

Thanks

Ronnie Houston, MS HT(ASCP)QIHC FIBMS
Anatomic Pathology Manager
ChildLab, a Division of Nationwide Children's Hospital
www.childlab.com

700 Children's Drive
Columbus, OH 43205
(P) 614-722-5450
(F) 614-722-2899
ronald.hous...@nationwidechildrens.org
www.NationwideChildrens.org

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~ E.M. Forster


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[Histonet] Dragon users

[Nancy Schmitt]

Hi All-

we are using Dragon Enterprise and currently using Plantronics wireless 
headsets - does anyone have any experience with other wireless microphone 
options?

Thanks for your input-

NancySchmitt

Dubuque, IA



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[Histonet] Dragon

[Knutson, Deanne]

We are currently researching the Dragon voice recognition system and I see
that there is quite a bit of recent emails on the histonet concerning this
subject.  Is there anyone who is using Dragon that experienced reluctant
Pathologists and how did you deal with that?  I would be very interested in
the mini steps you may have taken to go paperless and bring the Pathologists
on board with this new idea.  Thank you for sharing your experiences and
suggestions with me.  This histonet is such a great tool!!!

 

Deanne Knutson

Anatomic Pathology Supervisor

St. Alexius Medical Center

900 E. Broadway

Bismarck, North Dakota  58506

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[Histonet] Dragon

[Fye Beth]

Some of you have given very good responses to the Dragon question.  May I ask 
an additional detail?  Do any of you have Meditech as your information system, 
and if you do, did it have any particular problems when implementing?  We have 
been trying to implement for a couple of months.  There are several reasons I 
think we have been unsuccessful at this point, one being technical problems 
with Meditech.  If anyone has any advice in particular for Meditech, I would be 
very appreciative!!!

Beth A. Fye, CT (ASCP)
Pathology Technical  Manager
HCA Richmond Hospital Laboratories
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[Histonet] Dragon

[Webb, Dorothy L]

Our pathology department has been using Dragon for 3 years now and really like 
it, both PA's and pathologists alike!  It is time saving and easy to adapt to, 
even the Pathologists who have their foreign accents!!  In fact, our entire 
facility is switching to Dragon for dictation.  The only negative was the loss 
of FTE's for secretaries, as it took their work away!!

Dorothy Webb, HT
Regions Histology Technical Supervisor
651-254-2962



  
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RE: [Histonet] Dragon dictating system

[Michael Mihalik]

Judy, my company and I have been experimenting with Dragon since version 4.
The current version is 10.  

The bottom line summary is Yes, it will work if you 

1.  put a lot of time in it, or
2.  use a lot of macros/shortcuts/items of that nature.


When it works, it's pretty awesome.  If you need more details, please let me
know.  I'd be happy to share.


Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369
 
 
 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:27 PM
To: histonet
Subject: [Histonet] Dragon dictating system

Histonet,
Has anyone had any experience with the Dragon dictating system? Pro's or
Con's?

Thanks for your opinions

Judy McKinney    
John Peter Smith Hospital
Fort Worth Texas
817-927-1024
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[Histonet] Dragon dictating system

[judy webb]

Histonet,
Has anyone had any experience with the Dragon dictating system? Pro's or Con's?

Thanks for your opinions

Judy McKinney    
John Peter Smith Hospital
Fort Worth Texas
817-927-1024
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