[Histonet] To detect injected mouse antibody inside mouse tissue

2010-01-21 Thread Amy Lee
Hello,
 
I have a question regarding detecting injected mouse antibody in mouse tissue 
by IHC.
Now I have mouse liver paraffin section. This mouse was injected mouse 
antibody. I was asked to locate this antibody. This is a mouse chimeric 
antibody. Variable regions from human antibody was combined with mouse IgG2a 
heavy chain and kappa light chain constant regions. I am thinking using rabbit 
anti-human IgG, F(ab) fragment specific. Do you think it's doable or you have 
any good suggestion? When this mouse antibody bind to antigen inside liver 
through this human variable region, my F(ab) fragment specific antibody can 
still bind to it?
 
Hope I describ my questions clearly.
 
Thank you in advance for any help!
 
Amy



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Re: [Histonet] To detect injected mouse antibody inside mouse tissue

2010-01-21 Thread koellingr



Amy, 

In my opinion the answer is, Yes, certainly possible.  Also in my opinion the 
answer is No, probably impossible.  Even with a Yahoo address I'm assuming that 
this is a research/biotech model and project.  In a previous life, when quietly 
gagged, I went about this on numerable occassions.  Sometimes extraordinarily 
successfully and sometimes complete failures.  Done at both light IHC level and 
with EM IHC.  Depends on your specific antibody molecule, how many target 
receptors on a given cell, pharmacokinetics of the injected antibody, making 
sure it gets to target and in sufficient quantity, not sequestered 
inappropriately, how long animal sacrificed post-injection.  Probably 5 other 
variables, each with nuances so just impossible to answer generally in this 
venue for your specific problem.  There are several papers on the subect if you 
look them up but they are specific procedures for a very specific model.  If 
successful, results are spectacular.  More often than not, you spend months on 
something that in retrospect was probably not doable in the first place after 
you sit and really think it through.  I once got bitten to the tune of several 
months work and at the end we found out something about the glycosylation of 
the antibody that would never allow us to localize it appropriately so we had 
been searching for something we could never find by IHC. 



Ray 



Raymond Koelling 

PhenoPath Labs 

Seattle, WA 
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Subject: [Histonet] To detect injected mouse antibody inside mouse tissue 

Hello, 
  
I have a question regarding detecting injected mouse antibody in mouse tissue 
by IHC. 
Now I have mouse liver paraffin section. This mouse was injected mouse 
antibody. I was asked to locate this antibody. This is a mouse chimeric 
antibody. Variable regions from human antibody was combined with mouse IgG2a 
heavy chain and kappa light chain constant regions. I am thinking using rabbit 
anti-human IgG, F(ab) fragment specific. Do you think it's doable or you have 
any good suggestion? When this mouse antibody bind to antigen inside liver 
through this human variable region, my F(ab) fragment specific antibody can 
still bind to it? 
  
Hope I describ my questions clearly. 
  
Thank you in advance for any help! 
  
Amy 



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