Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

2019-08-08 Thread Tony Henwood (SCHN) via Histonet
Whoops,

The Ventana does not use Victoria blue, my mistake. They have a resorcin 
fuchsin solution (known as Hart's method) not Miller Victoria blue.



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Principal Scientist, the Children's Hospital at Westmead
Adjunct Fellow, School of Medicine, University of Western Sydney 
Tel: 612 9845 3306 
Fax: 612 9845 3318 
Pathology Department
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-Original Message-
From: Tony Henwood (SCHN) 
Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2019 10:44 AM
To: Bob Richmond 
Cc: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

Victoria Blue is the dye used in Miller's Stain for Elastic Tissue.
It is also used in the Roche Ventana Benchmark Stainer to stain elastic Tissue:

Miller PJ (1971) An elastin stain. Med Lab Technol 28, 148-149

Karen Percival & Zaher Radi (2017) Comparison of five elastin histochemical 
stains to identify pulmonary small vasculature, Journal of Histotechnology, 
40:3, 73-78

Yufeng Yu & Clifford M. Chapman (2000) "Elastic Tissue Staining in Human Skin" 
Histologic 32(1): 12

Roten SV, Bhat S, Bhawan J. Elastic fibers in scar tissue. J Cutan Pathol 1996: 
23: 37-42.


Regards
Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA) Principal 
Scientist, the Children's Hospital at Westmead Adjunct Fellow, School of 
Medicine, University of Western Sydney
Tel: 612 9845 3306
Fax: 612 9845 3318
Pathology Department
the children's hospital at westmead
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead Locked Bag 4001, Westmead 
NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA


From: Bob Richmond via Histonet 
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 4:10 AM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

Amy (where?) asks: >>I was asked to do Victoria Blue stain on rodent FFPE lung 
tissue to exam thickness of artery. Could anybody recommend a good vendor of 
this reagent kit?<<

You can get Victoria Blue R (Colour Index 44040) from Sigma-Aldrich and several 
others. I couldn't find anyone who offers a kit, only the dry dye.
There are other dyes called Victoria Blue, reported to give the same results.

You'd have to find a method for preparing it as an elastic stain, and I 
couldn't find such a method either with Google or in my old books. The 
requester needs to supply you with a method. I suspect the requester is reading 
an old article. There are stains for elastic tissue (which is I suppose what 
you want to "exam thickness of artery") that are a lot easier to get.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN
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Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

2019-07-30 Thread Dr. Michael Gudo (Morphisto GmbH) via Histonet
There is also a Kit and the ready to use solution available from MORPHISTO 
Germany.

Just contact the sales office: i...@morphisto.de

Cheers
Michael



> Am 27.07.2019 um 23:53 schrieb Tony Henwood (SCHN) via Histonet 
> :
> 
> Methods found here:
> 
> https://www.ihcworld.com/_protocols/special_stains/miller's_elastic_ellis.htm
> 
> http://www.histosearch.com/histonet/Dec98/Millersstainforelasticfib.html
> 
> https://www.sakuraus.com/getattachment/774d89be-4b32-4d69-bb02-8dea75c52c0c/858
> 
> ?
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
> Principal Scientist, the Children's Hospital at Westmead
> Adjunct Fellow, School of Medicine, University of Western Sydney
> Tel: 612 9845 3306
> Fax: 612 9845 3318
> Pathology Department
> the children's hospital at westmead
> Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
> Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA
> 
> From: Bob Richmond 
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 11:27:54 AM
> To: Tony Henwood (SCHN)
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue
> 
> Is this method published anywhere that "Amy" would likely have access to? 
> This looked to me like one of those cases of the blind leading the blind that 
> are all to common in research involving histochemistry.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 8:44 PM Tony Henwood (SCHN) 
> mailto:tony.henw...@health.nsw.gov.au>> wrote:
> Victoria Blue is the dye used in Miller's Stain for Elastic Tissue.
> It is also used in the Roche Ventana Benchmark Stainer to stain elastic 
> Tissue:
> 
> Miller PJ (1971) An elastin stain. Med Lab Technol 28, 148-149
> 
> Karen Percival & Zaher Radi (2017) Comparison of five elastin histochemical 
> stains to identify pulmonary small vasculature, Journal of Histotechnology, 
> 40:3, 73-78
> 
> Yufeng Yu & Clifford M. Chapman (2000) "Elastic Tissue Staining in Human 
> Skin" Histologic 32(1): 12
> 
> Roten SV, Bhat S, Bhawan J. Elastic fibers in scar tissue. J Cutan Pathol 
> 1996: 23: 37-42.
> 
> 
> Regards
> Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
> Principal Scientist, the Children's Hospital at Westmead
> Adjunct Fellow, School of Medicine, University of Western Sydney
> Tel: 612 9845 3306
> Fax: 612 9845 3318
> Pathology Department
> the children's hospital at westmead
> Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
> Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA
> 
> ____
> From: Bob Richmond via Histonet 
> mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>>
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 4:10 AM
> To: 
> Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue
> 
> Amy (where?) asks: >>I was asked to do Victoria Blue stain on rodent FFPE
> lung tissue to exam thickness of artery. Could anybody recommend a good
> vendor of this reagent kit?<<
> 
> You can get Victoria Blue R (Colour Index 44040) from Sigma-Aldrich and
> several others. I couldn't find anyone who offers a kit, only the dry dye.
> There are other dyes called Victoria Blue, reported to give the same
> results.
> 
> You'd have to find a method for preparing it as an elastic stain, and I
> couldn't find such a method either with Google or in my old books. The
> requester needs to supply you with a method. I suspect the requester is
> reading an old article. There are stains for elastic tissue (which is I
> suppose what you want to "exam thickness of artery") that are a lot easier
> to get.
> 
> Bob Richmond
> Samurai Pathologist
> Maryville TN
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Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

2019-07-29 Thread MARR, Penelope (EAST SUSSEX HEALTHCARE NHS TRUST) via Histonet
Miller's stain is available from VWR.
I do not recommend the BSS to stain elastin - it is not strong enough and 
misses the fine fibres.

Kind regards,
Penny :)

Penny Marr
Senior BMS

C/- Histology
Conquest Hospital
St Leonards-on-Sea TN37 7RD

penny.m...@nhs.net

(01424) 758023


-Original Message-
From: Tony Henwood (SCHN) [mailto:tony.henw...@health.nsw.gov.au]
Sent: 27 July 2019 01:44
To: Bob Richmond
Cc: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

Victoria Blue is the dye used in Miller's Stain for Elastic Tissue.
It is also used in the Roche Ventana Benchmark Stainer to stain elastic Tissue:

Miller PJ (1971) An elastin stain. Med Lab Technol 28, 148-149

Karen Percival & Zaher Radi (2017) Comparison of five elastin histochemical 
stains to identify pulmonary small vasculature, Journal of Histotechnology, 
40:3, 73-78

Yufeng Yu & Clifford M. Chapman (2000) "Elastic Tissue Staining in Human Skin" 
Histologic 32(1): 12

Roten SV, Bhat S, Bhawan J. Elastic fibers in scar tissue. J Cutan Pathol 1996: 
23: 37-42.


Regards
Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
Principal Scientist, the Children's Hospital at Westmead
Adjunct Fellow, School of Medicine, University of Western Sydney
Tel: 612 9845 3306
Fax: 612 9845 3318
Pathology Department
the children's hospital at westmead
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA


From: Bob Richmond via Histonet 
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 4:10 AM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

Amy (where?) asks: >>I was asked to do Victoria Blue stain on rodent FFPE
lung tissue to exam thickness of artery. Could anybody recommend a good
vendor of this reagent kit?<<

You can get Victoria Blue R (Colour Index 44040) from Sigma-Aldrich and
several others. I couldn't find anyone who offers a kit, only the dry dye.
There are other dyes called Victoria Blue, reported to give the same
results.

You'd have to find a method for preparing it as an elastic stain, and I
couldn't find such a method either with Google or in my old books. The
requester needs to supply you with a method. I suspect the requester is
reading an old article. There are stains for elastic tissue (which is I
suppose what you want to "exam thickness of artery") that are a lot easier
to get.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN
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Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

2019-07-27 Thread Tony Henwood (SCHN) via Histonet
Methods found here:

https://www.ihcworld.com/_protocols/special_stains/miller's_elastic_ellis.htm

http://www.histosearch.com/histonet/Dec98/Millersstainforelasticfib.html

https://www.sakuraus.com/getattachment/774d89be-4b32-4d69-bb02-8dea75c52c0c/858

?



Regards
Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
Principal Scientist, the Children's Hospital at Westmead
Adjunct Fellow, School of Medicine, University of Western Sydney
Tel: 612 9845 3306
Fax: 612 9845 3318
Pathology Department
the children's hospital at westmead
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA

From: Bob Richmond 
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 11:27:54 AM
To: Tony Henwood (SCHN)
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

Is this method published anywhere that "Amy" would likely have access to? This 
looked to me like one of those cases of the blind leading the blind that are 
all to common in research involving histochemistry.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 8:44 PM Tony Henwood (SCHN) 
mailto:tony.henw...@health.nsw.gov.au>> wrote:
Victoria Blue is the dye used in Miller's Stain for Elastic Tissue.
It is also used in the Roche Ventana Benchmark Stainer to stain elastic Tissue:

Miller PJ (1971) An elastin stain. Med Lab Technol 28, 148-149

Karen Percival & Zaher Radi (2017) Comparison of five elastin histochemical 
stains to identify pulmonary small vasculature, Journal of Histotechnology, 
40:3, 73-78

Yufeng Yu & Clifford M. Chapman (2000) "Elastic Tissue Staining in Human Skin" 
Histologic 32(1): 12

Roten SV, Bhat S, Bhawan J. Elastic fibers in scar tissue. J Cutan Pathol 1996: 
23: 37-42.


Regards
Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
Principal Scientist, the Children's Hospital at Westmead
Adjunct Fellow, School of Medicine, University of Western Sydney
Tel: 612 9845 3306
Fax: 612 9845 3318
Pathology Department
the children's hospital at westmead
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA


From: Bob Richmond via Histonet 
mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 4:10 AM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

Amy (where?) asks: >>I was asked to do Victoria Blue stain on rodent FFPE
lung tissue to exam thickness of artery. Could anybody recommend a good
vendor of this reagent kit?<<

You can get Victoria Blue R (Colour Index 44040) from Sigma-Aldrich and
several others. I couldn't find anyone who offers a kit, only the dry dye.
There are other dyes called Victoria Blue, reported to give the same
results.

You'd have to find a method for preparing it as an elastic stain, and I
couldn't find such a method either with Google or in my old books. The
requester needs to supply you with a method. I suspect the requester is
reading an old article. There are stains for elastic tissue (which is I
suppose what you want to "exam thickness of artery") that are a lot easier
to get.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN
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Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

2019-07-26 Thread Tony Henwood (SCHN) via Histonet
Victoria Blue is the dye used in Miller's Stain for Elastic Tissue.
It is also used in the Roche Ventana Benchmark Stainer to stain elastic Tissue:

Miller PJ (1971) An elastin stain. Med Lab Technol 28, 148–149

Karen Percival & Zaher Radi (2017) Comparison of five elastin histochemical 
stains to identify pulmonary small vasculature, Journal of Histotechnology, 
40:3, 73-78

Yufeng Yu & Clifford M. Chapman (2000) "Elastic Tissue Staining in Human Skin" 
Histologic 32(1): 12

Roten SV, Bhat S, Bhawan J. Elastic fibers in scar tissue. J Cutan Pathol 1996: 
23: 37-42.


Regards
Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
Principal Scientist, the Children’s Hospital at Westmead
Adjunct Fellow, School of Medicine, University of Western Sydney
Tel: 612 9845 3306
Fax: 612 9845 3318
Pathology Department
the children's hospital at westmead
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA


From: Bob Richmond via Histonet 
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 4:10 AM
To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

Amy (where?) asks: >>I was asked to do Victoria Blue stain on rodent FFPE
lung tissue to exam thickness of artery. Could anybody recommend a good
vendor of this reagent kit?<<

You can get Victoria Blue R (Colour Index 44040) from Sigma-Aldrich and
several others. I couldn't find anyone who offers a kit, only the dry dye.
There are other dyes called Victoria Blue, reported to give the same
results.

You'd have to find a method for preparing it as an elastic stain, and I
couldn't find such a method either with Google or in my old books. The
requester needs to supply you with a method. I suspect the requester is
reading an old article. There are stains for elastic tissue (which is I
suppose what you want to "exam thickness of artery") that are a lot easier
to get.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN
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Re: [Histonet] Victoria blue for lung tissue

2019-07-26 Thread Bob Richmond via Histonet
Amy (where?) asks: >>I was asked to do Victoria Blue stain on rodent FFPE
lung tissue to exam thickness of artery. Could anybody recommend a good
vendor of this reagent kit?<<

You can get Victoria Blue R (Colour Index 44040) from Sigma-Aldrich and
several others. I couldn't find anyone who offers a kit, only the dry dye.
There are other dyes called Victoria Blue, reported to give the same
results.

You'd have to find a method for preparing it as an elastic stain, and I
couldn't find such a method either with Google or in my old books. The
requester needs to supply you with a method. I suspect the requester is
reading an old article. There are stains for elastic tissue (which is I
suppose what you want to "exam thickness of artery") that are a lot easier
to get.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN
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[Histonet] Victoria Blue for lung tissue

2019-07-25 Thread Amy Lee via Histonet
Hello Histonet,

I was asked to do Victoria Blue stain on rodent FFPE lung tissue to exam
thickness of artery. Could anybody recommend a good vendor of this reagent
kit?

Thanks,

Amy
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