[Histonet] histomorphometry - clarified

2010-10-01 Thread louise renton
Dear all,

just to clarify issues here - i have a histomorphometry analysis system -a
very nice one, and  i sort of know how to use it - what i DON'T know is what
sort of measurements i should be doing. So thanks to all who suggested
systems, i'm sorry if my initial e-mail was not all that clear.

further commentary on WHAT to measure and what parametres are useful will be
welcomed

best regards

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Katie McKinley katie.mckin...@i-path.co.uk
 wrote:

 Dear Louise,

 We have software which not only will allow the easy measurement of slides
 but also the management of your images.  We specialize in whole slide
 scanning software, We can scan your slides and your images are saved on our
 network of servers and can be accessed online using secure login details.
 Because the software is online you can access your images from any
 location.
 The scan can be treated like a glass slide.  You can zoom in to diagnostic
 resolution and pan around the whole slide and move through the layers.
 As well as measurements, you can annotate the slide, build up archives and
 banks of information and share with colleagues around the world instantly.
 We are currently in beta testing of our off the shelf imaging analysis
 software, but we do work on a consultancy basis to create analysis
 algorithms to suit our clients' needs specifically.

 Please visit our website for more info. www.i-path.co.uk

 Kind Regards

 Katie

 -Original Message-
 From: Wagner, Richard [BUL/LAK] [mailto:richard.wag...@buehler.com]
 Sent: 28 September 2010 21:48
 To: louise.ren...@gmail.com
 Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: FW: [Histonet] histomorphometry

 Louise:

 Versatile image analysis software like OmniMet can solve this problem.
 Powerful digital image acquisition, object and field measurement
 options, and counting tools are standard features of the software.
 http://www.buehler.com/productinfo/biomedical/ia.htm

 Regards,
 Rick Wagner

 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jack
 Ratliff
 Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 8:36 AM
 To: louise renton
 Cc: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] histomorphometry

 At the NSH this year, just this last Sunday in fact, Dr. Tony Villanueva
 demonstrated this very technique in his workshop. My best advice would
 be to contact him directly (avillanuev...@cox.net) and see what he can
 do for you. Another option would be to contact an image analysis vendor
 like BIOQUANT (nathan...@bioquant.com). Hope this information helps!

 Regards,

 Jack

 On Sep 28, 2010, at 3:25 AM, louise renton louise.ren...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  I desperately need some advice from an experienced
 histomorphometristI
  am trying to translate the old cumbersome visual measurement of using
 an
  eypiece grid and doing point counting to an easier computer system -
 but I
  am not sure how to do it - any help out there?
  --
  Louise Renton
  Bone Research Unit
  University of the Witwatersrand
  Johannesburg
  South Africa
  +27 11 717 2298 (tel  fax)
  073 5574456 (emergencies only)
  There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls.
  George Carlin
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Re: [Histonet] histomorphometry

2010-09-29 Thread Silvina Molinuevo
Hi louise! like Yak-Nam WangI do use Image J. It is very easy to use, you can 
use just a picture and count particles/cells manually or do it  automated after 
defining the size threshold. The last way It will take you a bit more time 
until you validate the process, but it is no difficult.
cheers, sil





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[Histonet] histomorphometry

2010-09-28 Thread louise renton
Hi all,

I desperately need some advice from an experienced histomorphometristI
am trying to translate the old cumbersome visual measurement of using an
eypiece grid and doing point counting to an easier computer system - but I
am not sure how to do it - any help out there?
-- 
Louise Renton
Bone Research Unit
University of the Witwatersrand
Johannesburg
South Africa
+27 11 717 2298 (tel  fax)
073 5574456 (emergencies only)
There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls.
George Carlin
No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Re: [Histonet] histomorphometry

2010-09-28 Thread Jack Ratliff
At the NSH this year, just this last Sunday in fact, Dr. Tony Villanueva 
demonstrated this very technique in his workshop. My best advice would be to 
contact him directly (avillanuev...@cox.net) and see what he can do for you. 
Another option would be to contact an image analysis vendor like BIOQUANT 
(nathan...@bioquant.com). Hope this information helps!

Regards,

Jack

On Sep 28, 2010, at 3:25 AM, louise renton louise.ren...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I desperately need some advice from an experienced histomorphometristI
 am trying to translate the old cumbersome visual measurement of using an
 eypiece grid and doing point counting to an easier computer system - but I
 am not sure how to do it - any help out there?
 -- 
 Louise Renton
 Bone Research Unit
 University of the Witwatersrand
 Johannesburg
 South Africa
 +27 11 717 2298 (tel  fax)
 073 5574456 (emergencies only)
 There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls.
 George Carlin
 No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
 However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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FW: [Histonet] histomorphometry

2010-09-28 Thread Wagner, Richard [BUL/LAK]
Louise:

Versatile image analysis software like OmniMet can solve this problem.
Powerful digital image acquisition, object and field measurement
options, and counting tools are standard features of the software.
http://www.buehler.com/productinfo/biomedical/ia.htm
 
Regards,
Rick Wagner

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jack
Ratliff
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 8:36 AM
To: louise renton
Cc: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] histomorphometry

At the NSH this year, just this last Sunday in fact, Dr. Tony Villanueva
demonstrated this very technique in his workshop. My best advice would
be to contact him directly (avillanuev...@cox.net) and see what he can
do for you. Another option would be to contact an image analysis vendor
like BIOQUANT (nathan...@bioquant.com). Hope this information helps!

Regards,

Jack

On Sep 28, 2010, at 3:25 AM, louise renton louise.ren...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I desperately need some advice from an experienced
histomorphometristI
 am trying to translate the old cumbersome visual measurement of using
an
 eypiece grid and doing point counting to an easier computer system -
but I
 am not sure how to do it - any help out there?
 -- 
 Louise Renton
 Bone Research Unit
 University of the Witwatersrand
 Johannesburg
 South Africa
 +27 11 717 2298 (tel  fax)
 073 5574456 (emergencies only)
 There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls.
 George Carlin
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Re: [Histonet] histomorphometry

2010-09-28 Thread Yak-Nam Wang
Hi Louise,

If your lab is like other labs and are a bit strapped for money but need
basic point counting, you may also be able do this using ImageJ. ImageJ is a
free piece of software developed at and provided by NIH. It has grid and
point overlays and counting tools. The learning curve isn't very steep, and
it's free! 

http://rsbweb.nih.gov/ij/

There is also a pc version.

Good luck
Yak-Nam Wang


On 9/28/10 1:47 PM, Wagner, Richard [BUL/LAK] richard.wag...@buehler.com
wrote:

 Louise:
 
 Versatile image analysis software like OmniMet can solve this problem.
 Powerful digital image acquisition, object and field measurement
 options, and counting tools are standard features of the software.
 http://www.buehler.com/productinfo/biomedical/ia.htm
  
 Regards,
 Rick Wagner
 
 -Original Message-
 From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jack
 Ratliff
 Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 8:36 AM
 To: louise renton
 Cc: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
 Subject: Re: [Histonet] histomorphometry
 
 At the NSH this year, just this last Sunday in fact, Dr. Tony Villanueva
 demonstrated this very technique in his workshop. My best advice would
 be to contact him directly (avillanuev...@cox.net) and see what he can
 do for you. Another option would be to contact an image analysis vendor
 like BIOQUANT (nathan...@bioquant.com). Hope this information helps!
 
 Regards,
 
 Jack
 
 On Sep 28, 2010, at 3:25 AM, louise renton louise.ren...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I desperately need some advice from an experienced
 histomorphometristI
 am trying to translate the old cumbersome visual measurement of using
 an
 eypiece grid and doing point counting to an easier computer system -
 but I
 am not sure how to do it - any help out there?
 -- 
 Louise Renton
 Bone Research Unit
 University of the Witwatersrand
 Johannesburg
 South Africa
 +27 11 717 2298 (tel  fax)
 073 5574456 (emergencies only)
 There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls.
 George Carlin
 No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
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[Histonet] Histomorphometry

2010-09-28 Thread Michelle MacVeigh-Aloni
We use MetaMorph software. 
It comes with a digital camera for taking the pictures. You can get the 
software only if you have already the micrioscope and the camera. You can 
easily measure anything you want, but it is costly.

Michelle

USC School of Medicine
LA CA
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