H-Net* Malaysiakini: Agong Mangkat
King dies 12:29pm, Wed: breaking news The Yang di-Pertuan Agong Sultan Salahuddin Abdul Aziz Shah died earlier today at the Gleneagles Intan Medical Centre. The 75-year-old monarch had been in critical condition after undergoing cardiac surgery in Singapore two months ago. An official announcement is expected soon. Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad is calling for a press conference at Putrajaya now. Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month.
RE: H-Net* Malaysiakini: Agong kritikal, perlu rawatan rapi
*~* { Sila lawat Laman Hizbi-Net - http://www.hizbi.net } {Hantarkan mesej anda ke: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } {Iklan barangan? Hantarkan ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] } *~* PAS : KE ARAH PEMERINTAHAN ISLAM YANG ADIL ~~~ menurut satu sumber yang boleh dipercayai... ramai kerabat diraja sibuk tempah baju kurung putih.. nak kata raya dah dekat... posa baru lima hari... > -Original Message- > From: Perak Man [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:39 a.m. > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: H-Net* Malaysiakini: Agong kritikal, perlu rawatan rapi > > Agong kritikal, perlu rawatan rapi > Azlina Ngainon > > 7:19pm, Tue: Kesihatan Yang di-Pertuan Agong Sultan Salahuddin Abdul Aziz > Shah dalam tahap kritikal tetapi stabil hari ini. > > "Seri Paduka kini dalam keadaan kritikal dan memerlukan rawatan rapi," > Menurut pakar-pakar perubatan yang sedang merawat baginda di Pusat > Perubatan Gleneagles Intan. > > "Tetapi Seri Paduka masih dalam keadaan stabil menurut satu kenyataan > Istana Negara yang ditandatangani Datuk Pengelola Bijaya DiRaja, Datuk > Ishak Ahmad," laporan Bernama dipetik petang ini. > > <http://www.malaysiakini.com/News/2001/11/pics/sultansa>Sultan > Salahuddin menerima rawatan lanjut di pusat rawatan itu sejak Ahad lepas, > setelah pulang daripada menjalani rawatan kesihatan dan pembedahan di > Hospital Mount Elizabeth, Singapura. Baginda berada di republik itu sejak > 19 September. > > "Rakyat jelata dipohon agar dapat bersama-sama berdoa ke hadrat Allah SWT > untuk keselamatan dan kesejahteraan Baginda Tuanku, supaya kesihatan > baginda pulih seperti sediakala, kata kenyataan itu," laporan itu dipetik > lagi. > > Jawatan baginda dipangku oleh Timbalan Yang di-Pertuan Agong, Sultan > Terengganu Sultan Mizan Zainal Abidin, sejak 8 Oktober lalu. > > > > _ > > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! GeoCities <http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1> - quick and easy > web site hosting, just $8.95/month. ( Melanggan ? To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] pada body : SUBSCRIBE HIZB) ( Berhenti ? To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] pada body: UNSUBSCRIBE HIZB) ( Segala pendapat yang dikemukakan tidak menggambarkan ) ( pandangan rasmi & bukan tanggungjawab HIZBI-Net ) ( Bermasalah? Sila hubungi [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Pengirim: Syamsul b Kadiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
H-Net* Malaysiakini: Agong kritikal, perlu rawatan rapi
Agong kritikal, perlu rawatan rapi Azlina Ngainon 7:19pm, Tue: Kesihatan Yang di-Pertuan Agong Sultan Salahuddin Abdul Aziz Shah dalam tahap kritikal tetapi stabil hari ini. Seri Paduka kini dalam keadaan kritikal dan memerlukan rawatan rapi, Menurut pakar-pakar perubatan yang sedang merawat baginda di Pusat Perubatan Gleneagles Intan. Tetapi Seri Paduka masih dalam keadaan stabil menurut satu kenyataan Istana Negara yang ditandatangani Datuk Pengelola Bijaya DiRaja, Datuk Ishak Ahmad, laporan Bernama dipetik petang ini. Sultan Salahuddin menerima rawatan lanjut di pusat rawatan itu sejak Ahad lepas, setelah pulang daripada menjalani rawatan kesihatan dan pembedahan di Hospital Mount Elizabeth, Singapura. Baginda berada di republik itu sejak 19 September. Rakyat jelata dipohon agar dapat bersama-sama berdoa ke hadrat Allah SWT untuk keselamatan dan kesejahteraan Baginda Tuanku, supaya kesihatan baginda pulih seperti sediakala, kata kenyataan itu, laporan itu dipetik lagi. Jawatan baginda dipangku oleh Timbalan Yang di-Pertuan Agong, Sultan Terengganu Sultan Mizan Zainal Abidin, sejak 8 Oktober lalu. Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month.
Re: H-Net* Malaysiakini: Muslim men not allowed to divorce via mobile phone
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H-Net* Malaysiakini: Muslim men not allowed to divorce via mobile phone
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H-Net* Malaysiakini: Is the Islamic state a real issue?
*~* { Sila lawat Laman Hizbi-Net - http://www.hizbi.net } {Hantarkan mesej anda ke: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } {Iklan barangan? Hantarkan ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] } *~* PAS : KE ARAH PEMERINTAHAN ISLAM YANG ADIL ~~~ Is the Islamic state a real issue? James Wong Wing On 11:04am, Wed: opinion Like most the young undergraduates in political science and economics, I was once thrilled and excited over absolute and pure concepts taught in the lecture halls and tutorial rooms. And I used them in my essays and assignments on comparative political and economic systems with intellectual enthusiasm. It paid off in the first year because I obtained good marks and grades for clarity of thought and for possessing an analytical mind. However, as I moved into the second and third years, my essays and assignments on similar topics or subjects were downgraded for using those absolute and pure concepts without qualifications and modifications. As one of my lecturers remarked in one of my essays: In assessing real cases, you have to first study the real data, facts and figures before you jump to conclusions". I really did not understand why and I asked him to elaborate. He said absolute and pure concepts or models like capitalism, socialism, nationalism, imperialism or the neo-classical theory of supply and demand etc are only useful to sharpen the mind and to improve the clarity of thought. They do not necessarily exist in the real world on earth. Slowly, as I read more on the economic and political histories of particular countries and continents, I started to appreciate what he said. There has never been capitalism in its purest or most absolute sense as constructed analytically by Karl Marx in his magnum opus, Das Kapital. Capitalism and pre-capitalist societies existed side-by-side or in juxtaposition even in Marx's time. After the Western world experienced the Great Depression of the 30s, socialist and even Marxist ideas were grudgingly accepted and adopted in the theory and practice of capitalist economics through intellectually brave economists like Lord JM Keynes. Similarly, the leader of the revolutionary Bolsheviks, VI Lenin , despite his earlier rhetoric against capitalist exploitation, had to accept some management theories and principles taught by Americans like Federick Taylor, so that factories in the then new socialist state could be properly and productively managed. Thus, confronted with these earthly realities, we can no longer understand or make conclusions with pre-conceived concepts on models in their most absolute or purest forms. We need to make qualifications and modifications in the light of facts, figures and data in order to make sounder and more realistic judgements. Parliamentary strength The debate on an Islamic state sparked off by DAP's deputy president Karpal Singh and his PAS counterpart, Abdul Hadi Awang in recent days, really reminds me of my level of mind in those undergraduate days. And the topic chosen by the secular lawyer and the holy preacher to trade polemics against each other openly in the mainstream media, which is alleged by themselves to be the propaganda tool of the enemy, really sounds haprak (useless) to me. Despite their opposite positions, both of them seem to think that establishing an Islamic state is possible and imminent. So, while one pushes hard for it, the other resists and opposes it as if an Islamic state would be there the next morning when he wakes up. They seem to have forgotten the fact that in order to amend the Federal Constitution, a party or a coalition of parties needs at least two-thirds majority in the Parliament, which means 129 or more seats out of the total 193 seats. In the last general elections, PAS was only allocated 64 parliamentary seat by the Barisan Alternatif (BA) to contest. Even if it had won all the seats it contested, it still would not be able to summon enough parliamentary strength (129 seats) to amend the Federal Constitution to allow for the establishment of an Islamic state. Anyhow, PAS only won 27 seats. What about the next general elections? Is there a possibility that PAS would get stronger? Indeed, PAS may get stronger vis-a-vis Umno, but it will never get strong enough to amend the Federal Constitution to establish an Islamic state even if it aspires to do so. No basis There is vast difference between an idealistic and unilateral declaration of intention on one hand and hard realities on the other. Theoretically, PAS could withdraw from BA and free itself from the check-and-balance mechanism of the multilateral alliance and contest all the 193 seats with the hope of winning 129 seats or more. However, I really do not think any strategists in PAS would recommend this
Re: Fw: H-Net* MalaysiaKini: Deals dogged by shame and scandal
*~* { Sila lawat Laman Hizbi-Net - http://www.hizbi.net } {Hantarkan mesej anda ke: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } {Iklan barangan? Hantarkan ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] } *~* PAS : KE ARAH PEMERINTAHAN ISLAM YANG ADIL ~~~ I tends to agree with the comments from saudara zainol. I guess TD (Tun Daim) doesn't have the guts to buy the shares under Maluri. Perhaps it may be good if you (zainol) propose this suggestion (of Maluri buying over some MAS'shares) to the higher authority or any of the Datuk's or Tan Sri's whom you may know...? Who knowsit might be fruitful...? God's willing... >From: "Zainol Zainuddin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Fw: H-Net* MalaysiaKini: Deals dogged by shame and scandal >Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 00:43:43 > > >*~* >{ Sila lawat Laman Hizbi-Net - http://www.hizbi.net } >{Hantarkan mesej anda ke: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } >{Iklan barangan? Hantarkan ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] } >*~* > PAS : KE ARAH PEMERINTAHAN ISLAM YANG ADIL >~~~ >Assalamua'laikum, >...and Daim says " RM8.00 is a good price for the government to buy,based >on a willing seller, willing buyer.. it's a real good investment, coz the >MAS shares value is a lot higher" > >Well Daim, if it's such a good investment, why don't you just let your co. >"Maluri" buy the "MAS shares" from "Naluri" at the same price? > >We'll see whether you'll be singing the same tune , when it's YOUR CO.'s >MONEY. not the government's money doing such a moronic act of no economic >sense at all... > >Wassalam... >>From: "pakar rujuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "hizb_hizbi_net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Fw: H-Net* MalaysiaKini: Deals dogged by shame and scandal >>Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:54:58 +0800 >> >> >> >> >> >>- Original Message - >>From: Concorde >>Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 11:56 AM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; anwar; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: H-Net* MalaysiaKini: Deals dogged by shame and scandal >> >> >> >>*~* >>{ Sila lawat Laman Hizbi-Net - http://www.hizbi.net } >>{Hantarkan mesej anda ke: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } >>{Iklan barangan? Hantarkan ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] } >>*~* >> PAS : KE ARAH PEMERINTAHAN ISLAM YANG ADIL >>~~~ >>LETTERS >> >>Print version of this story >>Friday December 22 >> >> >>Deals dogged by shame and scandal >>Fooled-By-Mahathir >> >>4:27pm, Fri: I read with absolute disgust the piece on MAS’ head honcho >>Tajudin Ramli in the Sunday edition of the New Straits Times. Here is a >>man who brought shame to our national carrier with the ever burgeoning >>losses, but the NST decided to go all out to praise him, to deflect the >>rakyat's disgust and potential aberration over the bailout of his equity >>stake in MAS by using the rakyat's money. >> >>The prime minister, in justifying the sale of the government/Bank Negara >>Malaysia's stake in MAS to Tajudin then, had said that it is better for >>MAS to be run by a private owner as he puts his capital at risk and >>will, therefore, better manage the business. >> >>The PM even had the gall to say that RM8 a share is a good buying price >>although the market price of MAS is hovering around RM3.80. Brunei >>recently sold its MAS shares at RM4 each. >> >>The NST article purposely excluded the deteriorating profit and loss and >>financial positions of MAS to date. It is a ridiculous effort to shore >>up the image of the prime minister and his failed policies which are >>crumbling like domino, i.e. the Perwaja affair, Indah Water, Bakun, >>Petronas’ bailout of Proton, to name a few. >> >>Why do I say Proton will be and is a failure? Despite being the national >>car, prices are creeping up like nobody’s business. It only looks cheap >>because the financing has been made flexible, i.e. up to seven years >>
Re: Fw: H-Net* MalaysiaKini: Deals dogged by shame and scandal
*~* { Sila lawat Laman Hizbi-Net - http://www.hizbi.net } {Hantarkan mesej anda ke: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } {Iklan barangan? Hantarkan ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] } *~* PAS : KE ARAH PEMERINTAHAN ISLAM YANG ADIL ~~~ Assalamua'laikum, ...and Daim says " RM8.00 is a good price for the government to buy,based on a willing seller, willing buyer.. it's a real good investment, coz the MAS shares value is a lot higher" Well Daim, if it's such a good investment, why don't you just let your co. "Maluri" buy the "MAS shares" from "Naluri" at the same price? We'll see whether you'll be singing the same tune , when it's YOUR CO.'s MONEY. not the government's money doing such a moronic act of no economic sense at all... Wassalam... >From: "pakar rujuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "hizb_hizbi_net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Fw: H-Net* MalaysiaKini: Deals dogged by shame and scandal >Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:54:58 +0800 > > > > > >----- Original Message - >From: Concorde >Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 11:56 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; anwar; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: H-Net* MalaysiaKini: Deals dogged by shame and scandal > > > >*~* >{ Sila lawat Laman Hizbi-Net - http://www.hizbi.net } >{Hantarkan mesej anda ke: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } >{Iklan barangan? Hantarkan ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] } >*~* > PAS : KE ARAH PEMERINTAHAN ISLAM YANG ADIL >~~~ >LETTERS > >Print version of this story >Friday December 22 > > >Deals dogged by shame and scandal >Fooled-By-Mahathir > >4:27pm, Fri: I read with absolute disgust the piece on MAS’ head honcho >Tajudin Ramli in the Sunday edition of the New Straits Times. Here is a >man who brought shame to our national carrier with the ever burgeoning >losses, but the NST decided to go all out to praise him, to deflect the >rakyat's disgust and potential aberration over the bailout of his equity >stake in MAS by using the rakyat's money. > >The prime minister, in justifying the sale of the government/Bank Negara >Malaysia's stake in MAS to Tajudin then, had said that it is better for >MAS to be run by a private owner as he puts his capital at risk and >will, therefore, better manage the business. > >The PM even had the gall to say that RM8 a share is a good buying price >although the market price of MAS is hovering around RM3.80. Brunei >recently sold its MAS shares at RM4 each. > >The NST article purposely excluded the deteriorating profit and loss and >financial positions of MAS to date. It is a ridiculous effort to shore >up the image of the prime minister and his failed policies which are >crumbling like domino, i.e. the Perwaja affair, Indah Water, Bakun, >Petronas’ bailout of Proton, to name a few. > >Why do I say Proton will be and is a failure? Despite being the national >car, prices are creeping up like nobody’s business. It only looks cheap >because the financing has been made flexible, i.e. up to seven years >repayment, etc., whereas the reality is that prices of non-national cars >are almost half of what Proton is offering, if not for the ridiculously >high duties imposed on those CBUs or CKDs. > >Now the government is talking about "strategic alliance" by offering >"auto technology" to the other automobile global players. > >In the first place, what technology can Proton offer to the global auto >players, i.e. DaimlerChrysler and Ford? And talking about these global >auto players transferring their technology to Japan, my question is - >for donkey’s years, Proton has been in partnership with Mitsubishi of >Japan, so why is the main component (the engine) still being imported >from Mitsubishi? > >The very same people who sold Proton to Petronas have now entered into a >joint venture with Honda Japan to manufacture Honda Civic in Malaysia. >Anticipating zero prospects (with the Asean Free Trade Agreement >nearing), they dump Proton on Petronas and secure Honda instead. Where >is their loyalty to the national car? Now they run to "orang asing" (our >PM's favourite word) for cover. > >Today Petronas has been forced to become an investment-holding company >with interests in property (Putrajaya), shipping (MISC) and automobile >(the latest being the bailou
Re: H-Net* MalaysiaKini: Suqiu mencabar agama Islam - Tajudin Rahma & Ibrahim Ali
*~* { Sila lawat Laman Hizbi-Net - http://www.hizbi.net } {Hantarkan mesej anda ke: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } {Iklan barangan? Hantarkan ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] } *~* PAS : KE ARAH PEMERINTAHAN ISLAM YANG ADIL ~~~ Eh...apa dah jadi dengan Pemuda UMNO sampai kena tubuhkan pula BBM ni untuk kononnya mempertahankan hak Melayu? Bukankah UMNO dan Pemuda UMNO lantang mengatakan mereka hero orang Melayu? Agaknya ketuanya tengah sebok shopping raya kot. 2. Baru terdengar suara raja katak Ibrahim Ali setelah lama terpendam. Kesian. Kasi canlah. Lepas ni tenggelam baliklah dia. Wassalam. >From: Concorde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,anwar ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: H-Net* MalaysiaKini: Suqiu mencabar agama Islam - Tajudin Rahma & >Ibrahim Ali >Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:51:23 +0800 > > > *~* > { Sila lawat Laman Hizbi-Net - http://www.hizbi.net } > {Hantarkan mesej anda ke: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } > {Iklan barangan? Hantarkan ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] } > *~* > PAS : KE ARAH PEMERINTAHAN ISLAM YANG ADIL > ~~~ >NEWS > >Print version of this story >Friday December 22 > > >Barisan Melayu untuk hadapi Suqiu >Mohd Irfan Isa > >6:49pm, Fri: Sekumpulan bekas pemimpin Pemuda Umno yang pernah ditahan >dalam Operasi Lalang pada 1987 hari ini diumumkan akan menyertai Barisan >Bertindak Melayu (BBM) untuk memantau usaha melucutkan hak Melayu. > >Ketua Bahagian Umno Pasir Mas, Datuk Paduka Ibrahim Ali berkata >penubuhan BBM bertujuan mempertahankan hak-hak istimewa orang Melayu. > >Saya sangka soal ketuanan Melayu ini telah selesai selepas 13 Mei. >Tetapi ia terus berlaku, maka adalah perlu untuk menubuhkan BBM, >katanya kepada pemberita di hadapan masjid Pasir Mas, Kelantan selepas >sembahyang Jumaat. > >Kami sebenarnya berbudi bahasa, dan kita tidak berkata apa-apa pada >permulaannya. Tetapi Suqiu masih tidak mengambil tindakan untuk menarik >balik tuntutannya, katanya lagi, dalam satu perhimpunan bagi membantah >Jawatankuasa Rayuan Pilihanraya Persatuan-persatuan Cina (Suqiu) yang >dihadiri hampir 100 orang di luar masjid itu. > >Menurut Ibrahim, BBM yang mempunyai urusetia tetap di Kuala Lumpur akan >bertindak memantau usaha melucutkan hak Melayu. > >Badan itu dipimpin oleh bekas beberapa anggota exco Pemuda Umno yang >pernah ditahan di bawah Akta Keselamatan Dalam Negeri (ISA) pada 1987, >dan juga bekas pemimpin pelajar. > >Jawatankuasa kami ini semua orang berani mati. Yang penakut-penakut >tidak ada. Dan kami semua bersedia untuk menghadapi sebarang akibat >berikutan tindakan kami, kata Ibrahim lagi. > >Beliau merupakan seorang daripada tiga aktivis Pemuda Umno yang ditahan >dalam operasi tangkapan besar-besaran 13 tahun lalu. > >Seorang lagi pemimpin BBM, Tajudin Rahman mengulangi desakan beberapa >pemimpin Umno sebelum ini. > >Tiada dialog, tiada perbincangan. Suqiu tiada pilihan lain selain >daripada menarik balik tuntutannya. Kalau tidak, bersedialah untuk >menghadapi sebarang tindakan daripada semua orang Melayu, termasuk BBM, >kata Tajudin, sambil berkata kumpulan pemimpin tersebut pernah bertindak >berhubung perkara yang sama pada 1987. > >Suqiu cabar Islam > >Tetapi kami tidak peduli siapa di belakang Suqiu. Sama ada parti dalam >kerajaan, luar kerajaan, NGO kita akan lawan habis-habisan. > >Suqiu mencabar agama Islam sebagai agama rasmi di negara ini. Dan oleh >itu, saya menyeru semua umat Islam di negara ini untuk bangun membela >Islam, kata bekas exco Pemuda Umno itu lagi. > >Tajuddin juga menggesa Ketua Pemuda Umno Datuk Hishammuddin Hussein >membatalkan hasrat untuk mengadakan dialog dengan Suqiu. > >Kalau tidak, kedudukan kepimpinan Pemuda Umno akan menjadi persoalan di >kalangan orang Melayu. Saya tahu Pemuda Umno ini masih bersatu, tetapi >yang lemah adalah pucuk pimpinan. > >Saya ingin menganjurkan kalau kelemahan di pucuk pimpinan ini >berterusan, maka Pemuda harus memilih suatu (barisan) kepimpinan baru >yang dapat membela kepentingan agama, bangsa dan negara, tegas Tajudin >kepada pemberita-pemberita yang meliputi peristiwa itu. > >Sepanjang demonstrasi ini, ahli-ahli BBM juga telah membakar satu >sepanduk anti-Suqiu pada perhimpunan aman ini yang telah bersurai p
Fw: H-Net* MalaysiaKini: Deals dogged by shame and scandal
- Original Message - From: Concorde Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 11:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; anwar; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: H-Net* MalaysiaKini: Deals dogged by shame and scandal *~*{ Sila lawat Laman Hizbi-Net - http://www.hizbi.net }{ Hantarkan mesej anda ke: [EMAIL PROTECTED] }{ Iklan barangan? Hantarkan ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] }*~* PAS : KE ARAH PEMERINTAHAN ISLAM YANG ADIL~~~LETTERSPrint version of this storyFriday December 22Deals dogged by shame and scandalFooled-By-Mahathir4:27pm, Fri: I read with absolute disgust the piece on MAS’ head honchoTajudin Ramli in the Sunday edition of the New Straits Times. Here is aman who brought shame to our national carrier with the ever burgeoninglosses, but the NST decided to go all out to praise him, to deflect therakyat's disgust and potential aberration over the bailout of his equitystake in MAS by using the rakyat's money.The prime minister, in justifying the sale of the government/Bank NegaraMalaysia's stake in MAS to Tajudin then, had said that it is better forMAS to be run by a private owner as he puts his capital at risk andwill, therefore, better manage the business.The PM even had the gall to say that RM8 a share is a good buying pricealthough the market price of MAS is hovering around RM3.80. Bruneirecently sold its MAS shares at RM4 each.The NST article purposely excluded the deteriorating profit and loss andfinancial positions of MAS to date. It is a ridiculous effort to shoreup the image of the prime minister and his failed policies which arecrumbling like domino, i.e. the Perwaja affair, Indah Water, Bakun,Petronas’ bailout of Proton, to name a few.Why do I say Proton will be and is a failure? Despite being the nationalcar, prices are creeping up like nobody’s business. It only looks cheapbecause the financing has been made flexible, i.e. up to seven yearsrepayment, etc., whereas the reality is that prices of non-national carsare almost half of what Proton is offering, if not for the ridiculouslyhigh duties imposed on those CBUs or CKDs.Now the government is talking about "strategic alliance" by offering"auto technology" to the other automobile global players.In the first place, what technology can Proton offer to the global autoplayers, i.e. DaimlerChrysler and Ford? And talking about these globalauto players transferring their technology to Japan, my question is -for donkey’s years, Proton has been in partnership with Mitsubishi ofJapan, so why is the main component (the engine) still being importedfrom Mitsubishi?The very same people who sold Proton to Petronas have now entered into ajoint venture with Honda Japan to manufacture Honda Civic in Malaysia.Anticipating zero prospects (with the Asean Free Trade Agreementnearing), they dump Proton on Petronas and secure Honda instead. Whereis their loyalty to the national car? Now they run to "orang asing" (ourPM's favourite word) for cover.Today Petronas has been forced to become an investment-holding companywith interests in property (Putrajaya), shipping (MISC) and automobile(the latest being the bailout of Proton and the million-ringgit annualsponsorship of the Formula 1 race).Letters to editor:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Last modified:Friday December 22, 4:28 pm( Melanggan ? To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] pada body : SUBSCRIBE HIZB)( Berhenti ? To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] pada body: UNSUBSCRIBE HIZB)( Segala pendapat yang dikemukakan tidak menggambarkan )( pandangan rasmi & bukan tanggungjawab HIZBI-Net )( Bermasalah? Sila hubungi [EMAIL PROTECTED] )Pengirim: Concorde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
H-Net* Malaysiakini: Dengarlah Rungutan Laman Web: Anwar
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H-Net* Malaysiakini
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H-Net* Malaysiakini
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Re: H-Net* Malaysiakini
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Re: H-Net* Malaysiakini
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H-Net* Malaysiakini
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H-Net* [Malaysiakini]PM aibkan rakyat Indonesia
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H-Net* Malaysiakini report: Mahathir and Ummi Hafilda in London
"M.G.G. Pillai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MONDAY - Jan 31, 2000Mahathir and Ummi in LondonLee Tse YinJan 31: There was a surprise speech by Ummi Hafilda and a discussion onhomosexuality. And with the fire-engine red jumper Prime MinisterMahathir Mohamad wore, it was no surprise the students were soon fanningtheir overheated selves in Malaysia Hall, even though gale-like windswere raking London outside yesterday. LEE TSE YIN was there to coverMahathirs meet-the-students session for malaysiakini. Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamads generous offer of a free Hari Rayalunch and a dialogue session with students has been met with a packedhall of about 160 people. This is less than the pre-election crowds byabout half or a third, but people are still jammed up to the entrance bythe end of the session. People began filing into Malaysia Hall at about 9.45am. Security at thedoor was tight, with entry restricted to the production of a Malaysianidentity card or student identification and a "yes" to the question,"are you Malaysian?" One student, attempting to tape a microphone to the podium, is told shecannot do so, as the security officer is wondering who she is, and isnot sure the Prime Minister would allow it. It is not the men in darksuits sporting ear-pieces who tell her this, but a makcik in a greenbaju kurung, who apologises for doing so, and tells her she can tapeMahathir's speech from where she is sitting instead. Two German students are stopped at the door and told it is aMalaysian-only affair, despite their protests, in Indonesian, that theyare studying politics in the region and are not from the media. Unlikethe unyielding, stolid responses of "I'm just doing my job," from thesecurity officer though, Mahathir himself is charming when they accosthim later at the front door and ask if they can join the talk instead ofwatching it on CCTV in the canteen next door. "Of course, of course," hesmiles, letting them follow him into the hall in his wake. By the time Mahathir and his family enter the hall, the aisle leading upto the stage is so crowded they have to squeeze through to get to thefront. Once on stage, Mahathir beams warmly round at the crowd as if itis an old friend and sits on a chair behind low window boxes of plasticflowers, potted plants and a table covered in white lace. There is ahuge Malaysian flag hung on the wall to his left with the words "SelamatDatang". Throughout the opening speeches and doa, his face becomes serious,almost pulled into a deep scowl. He nods and smiles at some phrases,like "memajukan negara" and "beramah dengan pemimpin-pemimpin negara",but mostly he looks down at his hands, which are loosely claspedtogether.He is examining the back of his right hand when the Malaysian HighCommissioner for UK and Eire Mohamad Amir Ja'afar congratulates him onthe election results and on winning the mandate of the people again. Helooks up at this and there is that warm smile again. When he finallysteps up to speak, his voice is a bit hoarse at first, and he has toclear his throat a few times before it smoothes out. He begins byannouncing that uber cool shoe designer, Jimmy Choo, a guest in thefront row, is coming back to live in Malaysia, which draws a smatteringof uncertain applause from the crowd. Then he says he is here to listento people's views and launches into the importance of listening to allsides of any story.It is classic Dr M talk if the repetition of this theme from previousspeeches is anything to judge by. Following on, he leads onto anarticle he has read in Britain's Sunday Times, about the Britishgovernment's wish to repeal Clause 28, which prevents the promotion ofhomosexuality. His mention of "seks sejenis" draws nervous giggles fromthe crowd. "Pendapat ini ditentang oleh kebanyakan badan-badan ugama. Mereka mahusupaya disekat. Kerana kalau ada promosi homoseks, maka masyarakat yangtidak homoseks pun berminat juga," he says playfully, smile in place. The crowd chuckles in response. "Ini promosi, bukan sahaja membuat penerangan; promosi," he stresses."Sudah ada satu video, saya berharap tuan-tuan tidak tengok (he chucklesheh and the crowd chuckles back with him) yang mana seorang budakberumur 15 tahun berkata 'kamu harus cuba yang mana yang lebih baiksebelum membuat keputusan, er, untuk, er, apa sajalah. (He smiles andthe crowd laughs.) "Itu kebebasan. Kebebasan negara ini ialah perhubungan homoseks. Ituperkara biasa bagi mereka. Kalau kita bawa balik budaya ini kepadanegara kita, sudah tentu ia akan menghakis budaya kita. Dan ini, padapendapat kita, adalah tidak sihat. "Memang kita tahu. Dalam semua masyarakat tabiat itu memang ada,terutama di kalangan muda-mudi ini, ada juga tabiat itu. Tapikebanyakanya apabila mereka sudah dewasa, gugurkanlah tabiat yang tidakbaik ini. Tapi kalau digalakan - apabila diadakan promosi - makaperkara yang dahulu kita anggap hina akan dianggap biasa dan akanditerima." >From here, he moves on to the topic of irrational hatred that he seemsto thi