RE: H-Net* Fwd: ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY CONTINUES...

2000-02-17 Terurut Topik Tad deBoar


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  From: "Munchkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [sangkancil] ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY
  CONTINUES...
  Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:38:30 +0800
  
  The following letter has already appeared in
  malaysiakini.  Here is the
  full, unedited version.  To malaysiakini's credit,
  they did not make many
  changes.
  
  HYPOCRITE, HE IS.
  
  Any one care to profer an opinion or two?
  
  The Munchkin
 
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  ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY CONTINUES
  
  Sir,
  I read with considerable consternation your report
  and written interview
  with Anwar Ibrahim, posted on January 26, 2000.
  Anwar's continued
  identification with the reform movement by
  reiterating his commitment
  towards combating corruption, cronyism and
  nepotism; and towards democracy
  and the rule of law has become unbearably
  nauseating and revolting to many
  fair-minded Malaysians.
  While no one can deny that Anwar, through his
  sacking, arrest and
  subsequent
  conviction, became a catalyst for reform and
  change, he can never be
  hailed
  as the great martyr that he regards himself as.
  The launch of his reform
  movement was part of an orchestrated survival
  strategy that was probably
  germinating in his mind prior to his removal from
  office, which he must
  have
  regarded, at the time, as imminent.  His
  deliberate tactic to immediately
  claim the moral high ground after his dismissal
  was fuelled by an almost
  spontaneous reaction by many Malaysians who
  empathised with a victim of
  Mahathir Mohamed's high-handed rule.  Anwar had
  long been cognisant of the
  latent discontent towards the Mahathir regime and
  duly packaged his agenda
  in reformist clothing.  Long-standing critics of
  the government were
  joined
  by die-hard Anwaristas on the Reformasi bandwagon
  that ignited a massive
  spark of political consciousness among Malaysians.
  One and a half years later this initially
  divergent support base has
  undergone a fusion, with long-time, independent
  critics finding themselves
  increasingly part of the cult of personality that
  has developed around
  Anwar.  This ominous trend is set to continue as
  his trial for sodomy
  resumes with the foreign and internet press
  eagerly covering his every
  utterance and entertaining every nod, wink, smile
  and scribble that he
  graces them with.  This deification of Malaysia's
  greatest hypocrite must
  stop now lest we lose our historical objectivity
  about a man who scarcely
  deserves to be at the vanguard of reform in
  Malaysia.
  His views on corruption et al are not new.  As an
  outspoken critic of the
  government in the 1970s he had begun his concerted
  attacks on money
  politics
  and the abuse of political power that he perceived
  as rampant in UMNO.
  Mahathir's successful recruitment of the then ABIM
  President was to
  significantly change the way in which Anwar
  operated.  During his meteoric
  sixteen years in UMNO, Anwar succeeded in not only
  becoming Mahathir's
  heir
  apparent, but also part of the nefarious network
  of "corrupt sycpophants
  and
  cronies" which make his current diatribes against
  the present regime ring
  hollow.
  In order to finance his rapid rise through the
  party hierarchy, Anwar
  created a patronage structure that included former
  aides and family
  members.
  His unabashed financial assistance to the former
  was most despicable. As
  Finance Minister he dished out shares and
  contracts to the likes of Ishak
  Ismail (former secretary of Anwar's Permatang Pauh
  division), Mohamed
  Sarit
  Yusoh (former political secretary), Nasaruddin
  Jalil (also former
  political
  secretary), Kamaruddin Jaffar and Kamaruddin
  Mohamad Nor (both Malay
  College
  Kuala Kangsar schoolmates of Anwar, the latter
  also Anwar's deputy in
  ABIM),
  and Ahmad Sebi Abu Bakar (contemporary at
  Universiti Malaya).  Anwar was
  equally charitable to his family with
  directorships and shares dispensed
  to
  his father Ibrahim Abdul Rahman; brothers,
  Marzuki, Rosli and the late
 
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2000-02-13 Terurut Topik Gina S. D


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The reason i posted article macam tu is because i wanted a variety of 
discussions in hizbi. Believe me, i did not bersusah payah cari articles 
about anwar's keburukan. I came across it. and also, bukan susah pun nak 
cari articles about anwar's keburukan.

What's the point of a forum group if we just discuss one side of an opinion? 
there's no thrill. And moreover, it is not healthy. A forum group should be 
able to take anything that is posted. I'm not saying everyone should agree 
to every postings...but one should be able to read them with an open mind.

*gina*


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This guy is a clear enemy of Anwar. He certainly did not do enough research. 
He blame Anwar for almost anything as if  within 17 yrs of Anwar in govt he 
is only a hypocrite. he forget that Anwar was the most outspoken in fighting 
for the following facts :

1. low cost housing for govt servart expecially those in lower ranks
2. Amending the anti corruption act  (most UMNO leaders were very afraid of 
this)
3. initiate a bonus for govt staff
4. Introduction of bahasa baku   KBSR
5. fighting for a true economic  reform (unfortunately most Mahadhir crony 
will become bankcrupt)
6. Islamic bank, university, etc
7. Skim bantuan fakir miskin through YPEIM,  etc

Anwar is not perfect but at least  he is the best among the worst (BN, 
UMNO). aftre his removal what left now  is only the rot. He is somehow  
hypocrite before his  removal because he has to tolerate Mahadir but his 
limit of tolerant expires when he has to make a choice  between the people 
or the corporate crony (who need billions to inject during the crisis).  The 
'TRUE'  Anwar is what u see after his removal. This true Anwar is exactly as 
he was during past UMNO era



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Subject: H-Net* Fwd:  ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY CONTINUES...
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 15:51:28 WST


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From: "Munchkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [sangkancil] ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY CONTINUES...
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:38:30 +0800

The following letter has already appeared in malaysiakini.  Here is the
full, unedited version.  To malaysiakini's credit, they did not make many
changes.

HYPOCRITE, HE IS.

Any one care to profer an opinion or two?

The Munchkin


--

ANWAR’S HYPOCRISY CONTINUES

Sir,
I read with considerable consternation your report and written interview
with Anwar Ibrahim, posted on January 26, 2000.  Anwar’s continued
identification with the reform movement by reiterating his commitment
towards combating corruption, cronyism and nepotism; and towards democracy
and the rule of law has become unbearably nauseating and revolting to many
fair-minded Malaysians.
While no one can deny that Anwar, through his sacking, arrest and 
subsequent
conviction, became a catalyst for reform and change, he can never be 
hailed
as the great martyr that he regards himself as.  The launch of his reform
movement was part of an orchestrated survival strategy that was probably
germinating in his mind prior to his removal from office, which he must 
have
regarded, at the time, as imminent.  His deliberate tactic to immediately
claim the moral high ground after his dismissal was fuelled by an almost
spontaneous reaction by many Malaysians who empathised with a victim of
Mahathir Mohamed’s high-handed rule.  Anwar had long been cognisant of the
latent discontent towards the Mahathir regime and duly packaged his agenda
in reformist clothing.  Long-standing critics of the government were 
joined
by die-hard Anwaristas on the Reformasi bandwagon that ignited a massive
spark of political consciousness among Malaysians.
One and a half years later this initially divergent support base has
undergone a fusion, with long-time, independent critics finding themselves
increasingly part of the cult of personality that has developed around
Anwar.  This ominous trend is set to continue as his trial for sodomy
resumes with the foreign and internet press eagerly covering his every
utterance and entertaining every nod, wink, smile and scribble that he
graces them with.  This deification of Malaysia’s greatest hypocrite must
stop now lest we lose our historical objectivity about a man who scarcely
deserves to be at the vanguard of reform in Malaysia.
His views on corruption et al are not new.  As an outspoken critic of the
government in the 1970s he had begun his concerted attacks on money 
politics
and the abuse of political power that he perceived as rampant in UMNO.
Mahathir’s successful recruitment of the then ABIM President was to
significantly change the way in which Anwar 

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~~~
 This guy is a clear enemy of Anwar. He certainly did
 not do enough research. 
 He blame Anwar for almost anything as if  within 17
 yrs of Anwar in govt he 
 is only a hypocrite. he forget that Anwar was the
 most outspoken in fighting 
 for the following facts :
 
 1. low cost housing for govt servart expecially
 those in lower ranks
 2. Amending the anti corruption act  (most UMNO
 leaders were very afraid of 
 this)
 3. initiate a bonus for govt staff
 4. Introduction of bahasa baku   KBSR
 5. fighting for a true economic  reform
 (unfortunately most Mahadhir crony 
 will become bankcrupt)
 6. Islamic bank, university, etc
 7. Skim bantuan fakir miskin through YPEIM,  etc
 
 Anwar is not perfect but at least  he is the best
 among the worst (BN, 
 UMNO). aftre his removal what left now  is only the
 rot. He is somehow  
 hypocrite before his  removal because he has to
 tolerate Mahadir but his 
 limit of tolerant expires when he has to make a
 choice  between the people 
 or the corporate crony (who need billions to inject
 during the crisis).  The 
 'TRUE'  Anwar is what u see after his removal. This
 true Anwar is exactly as 
 he was during past UMNO era
 
 
 
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 Subject: H-Net* Fwd:  ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY
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 From: "Munchkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [sangkancil] ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY
 CONTINUES...
 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:38:30 +0800
 
 The following letter has already appeared in
 malaysiakini.  Here is the
 full, unedited version.  To malaysiakini's credit,
 they did not make many
 changes.
 
 HYPOCRITE, HE IS.
 
 Any one care to profer an opinion or two?
 
 The Munchkin




 --
 
 ANWAR’S HYPOCRISY CONTINUES
 
 Sir,
 I read with considerable consternation your report
 and written interview
 with Anwar Ibrahim, posted on January 26, 2000. 
 Anwar’s continued
 identification with the reform movement by
 reiterating his commitment
 towards combating corruption, cronyism and
 nepotism; and towards democracy
 and the rule of law has become unbearably
 nauseating and revolting to many
 fair-minded Malaysians.
 While no one can deny that Anwar, through his
 sacking, arrest and 
 subsequent
 conviction, became a catalyst for reform and
 change, he can never be 
 hailed
 as the great martyr that he regards himself as. 
 The launch of his reform
 movement was part of an orchestrated survival
 strategy that was probably
 germinating in his mind prior to his removal from
 office, which he must 
 have
 regarded, at the time, as imminent.  His
 deliberate tactic to immediately
 claim the moral high ground after his dismissal
 was fuelled by an almost
 spontaneous reaction by many Malaysians who
 empathised with a victim of
 Mahathir Mohamed’s high-handed rule.  Anwar had
 long been cognisant of the
 latent discontent towards the Mahathir regime and
 duly packaged his agenda
 in reformist clothing.  Long-standing critics of
 the government were 
 joined
 by die-hard Anwaristas on the Reformasi bandwagon
 that ignited a massive
 spark of political consciousness among Malaysians.
 One and a half years later this initially
 divergent 

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2000-02-03 Terurut Topik lan nur


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testing


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Subject: Re: H-Net* Fwd: ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY CONTINUES...
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This guy is a clear enemy of Anwar. He certainly did not do enough 
research. He blame Anwar for almost anything as if  within 17 yrs of Anwar 
in govt he is only a hypocrite. he forget that Anwar was the most outspoken 
in fighting for the following facts :

1. low cost housing for govt servart expecially those in lower ranks
2. Amending the anti corruption act  (most UMNO leaders were very afraid of 
this)
3. initiate a bonus for govt staff
4. Introduction of bahasa baku   KBSR
5. fighting for a true economic  reform (unfortunately most Mahadhir crony 
will become bankcrupt)
6. Islamic bank, university, etc
7. Skim bantuan fakir miskin through YPEIM,  etc

Anwar is not perfect but at least  he is the best among the worst (BN, 
UMNO). aftre his removal what left now  is only the rot. He is somehow  
hypocrite before his  removal because he has to tolerate Mahadir but his 
limit of tolerant expires when he has to make a choice  between the people 
or the corporate crony (who need billions to inject during the crisis).  
The 'TRUE'  Anwar is what u see after his removal. This true Anwar is 
exactly as he was during past UMNO era



From: "Gina S. D" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: H-Net* Fwd:  ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY CONTINUES...
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 15:51:28 WST


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From: "Munchkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [sangkancil] ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY CONTINUES...
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:38:30 +0800

The following letter has already appeared in malaysiakini.  Here is the
full, unedited version.  To malaysiakini's credit, they did not make many
changes.

HYPOCRITE, HE IS.

Any one care to profer an opinion or two?

The Munchkin


--

ANWAR’S HYPOCRISY CONTINUES

Sir,
I read with considerable consternation your report and written interview
with Anwar Ibrahim, posted on January 26, 2000.  Anwar’s continued
identification with the reform movement by reiterating his commitment
towards combating corruption, cronyism and nepotism; and towards 
democracy
and the rule of law has become unbearably nauseating and revolting to 
many
fair-minded Malaysians.
While no one can deny that Anwar, through his sacking, arrest and 
subsequent
conviction, became a catalyst for reform and change, he can never be 
hailed
as the great martyr that he regards himself as.  The launch of his reform
movement was part of an orchestrated survival strategy that was probably
germinating in his mind prior to his removal from office, which he must 
have
regarded, at the time, as imminent.  His deliberate tactic to immediately
claim the moral high ground after his dismissal was fuelled by an almost
spontaneous reaction by many Malaysians who empathised with a victim of
Mahathir Mohamed’s high-handed rule.  Anwar had long been cognisant of 
the
latent discontent towards the Mahathir regime and duly packaged his 
agenda
in reformist clothing.  Long-standing critics of the government were 
joined
by die-hard Anwaristas on the Reformasi bandwagon that ignited a massive
spark of political consciousness among Malaysians.
One and a half years later this initially divergent support base has
undergone a fusion, with long-time, independent critics finding 
themselves
increasingly part of the cult of personality that has developed around
Anwar.  This ominous trend is set to continue as his trial for sodomy
resumes with the foreign and internet press eagerl

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Maybe DSA did some wrongdoings (again MAYBE)...

walaubagaimanapun peristiwa yang telah berlaku telah membuka banyak minda
dan mata rakyat akan kejelekan, penipuan, penyelewangan dan kemungkaran
pihak kepimpinan BN...
yang mana saya percaya a lot of damages have been done...
dan kebanyakan rakyat tidak akan kembali kepada BN...
dan semakin bertambah kalangan rakyat yang akan meninggalkan BN...

not unless perubahan yang secara besar dilakukan pada kepimpinan, cara
perjuangan dan matlamat pergerakan BN (umno khususnya)...

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Namun sebaliknya kes DSAI ini adalah pemangkin kepada
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adi.

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~~~
 This guy is a clear enemy of Anwar. He certainly did
 not do enough research. 
 He blame Anwar for almost anything as if  within 17
 yrs of Anwar in govt he 
 is only a hypocrite. he forget that Anwar was the
 most outspoken in fighting 
 for the following facts :
 
 1. low cost housing for govt servart expecially
 those in lower ranks
 2. Amending the anti corruption act  (most UMNO
 leaders were very afraid of 
 this)
 3. initiate a bonus for govt staff
 4. Introduction of bahasa baku   KBSR
 5. fighting for a true economic  reform
 (unfortunately most Mahadhir crony 
 will become bankcrupt)
 6. Islamic bank, university, etc
 7. Skim bantuan fakir miskin through YPEIM,  etc
 
 Anwar is not perfect but at least  he is the best
 among the worst (BN, 
 UMNO). aftre his removal what left now  is only the
 rot. He is somehow  
 hypocrite before his  removal because he has to
 tolerate Mahadir but his 
 limit of tolerant expires when he has to make a
 choice  between the people 
 or the corporate crony (who need billions to inject
 during the crisis).  The 
 'TRUE'  Anwar is what u see after his removal. This
 true Anwar is exactly as 
 he was during past UMNO era
 
 
 
 From: "Gina S. D" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: H-Net* Fwd:  ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY
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 Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 15:51:28 WST
 
 

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 From: "Munchkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [sangkancil] ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY
 CONTINUES...
 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:38:30 +0800
 
 The following letter has already appeared in
 malaysiakini.  Here is the
 full, unedited version.  To malaysiakini's credit,
 they did not make many
 changes.
 
 HYPOCRITE, HE IS.
 
 Any one care to profer an opinion or two?
 
 The Munchkin

--
--

--
--
 --
 
 ANWAR'S HYPOCRISY CONTINUES
 
 Sir,
 I read with considerable consternation your report
 and written interview
 with Anwar Ibrahim, posted on January 26, 2000. 
 Anwar's continued
 identification with the reform movement by
 reiterating his commitment
 towards