RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Pat Magnan]

If you're Adobe, feel free to invoke the DMCA and call in the FBI, if 
you're anyone else, no, because copyright infringement is civil law 
isn't it?? ;) (little sarcasm there).

I don't know honestly think that the police are concerned with 
copyright infringement, however, it would appear from other bidders 
that this little schmuck is actually comitting mail fraud (not making 
good on things he's supposedly selling -- My parents wouldn't let me 
buy/sell it). I'm not sure what position that the US courts have taken 
on this kind of stuff (i.e. is it really mail fraud - I'm pretty sure), 
and the other thing with fraud that I can vouch for from personal 
experience is that no one really goes into small cases (got ripped 
buying a Magic card a number of years ago in a newsgroup auction), no 
one cared.

Better to report the little puke to EBay (selling someone else's 
software illegally has to be against their rules), and let them handle 
it. It also seems he's under age (no contract in Candian law is 
enforceable against a minor, and I believe that the US would have a 
similar consideration), so EBay may be interested to learn that.

We could always make a number of complaints to them, and let them 
handle it. ;)

> I wonder if it'd be possible to report this kind of stuff to the po-
lice.
> 
> 

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RE: [hlcoders] VALVe: GMAX?

[Kevin Navia]

its 
not only for mapping my friend, also modelling as wel, gmax is better 
suited as modelling program afterall, with a free tool very accessible to 
ppl who doesnt own max and having cool animation capabilities and behave 
almost similar to max, well gmax is the TOOL to use for budget lipped 
modders. (and it might help them get ported to the pro 
stuff)
 
--- -- --- -- --- -- --- -- --- -- ---Kevin "runab0ut" Navia 
 
 Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dynerman David 
MSent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:11 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [hlcoders] VALVe: 
GMAX?

  
  That’s what I’m 
  saying.
   
  Valve: Please give us 
  a good modeling plugin so we can get content for our 
  mods!
   
  david
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Michael 
  Shimmins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:10 
  PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [hlcoders] VALVe: 
  GMAX?
   
  
  I'm curious as to why Valve (who 
  own Worldcraft now), would spend money and time making a *new* mapping plugin 
  for a 3rd party piece of software, when Worldcraft is already out here, and 
  doing the job fantasticly.
  
   
  
  Michael ShimminsThe 
  Absconder Effect
  
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob AmanSent: Thursday, 20 December 2001 9:24 
AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [hlcoders] VALVe: 
GMAX?

I'm actually far 
more interested in the mapping "capabilities" of gmax.  I already have 
a nice legal version of max thanks to my college's bookstore.  However, 
I find that doing complex architectural stuff in a map is difficult.  
(For example, making a statue is a pain in the butt.)  A modeling 
program is far better suited for stuff like this.  Complex 
objects are much more difficult to construct in Worldcraft.  Often 
a model is the only way to deal with this.  And then you have to use 
work-arounds like putting in clip brushes where the model is.  If gmax 
were set up to make prefabs, that'd be great.  WC is more than 
sufficient for everything else.
-Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric SmithSent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:37 
  PMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [hlcoders] VALVe: 
  GMAX?
  
  What 
  do you want to see out of GMAX?
  
   
  
  -Eric

RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Patrick Phillips]

I wonder if it'd be possible to report this kind of stuff to the po-lice.


>From: Ken Birdwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
>Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:39:54 -0800
>
>http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-software.html
>
>
>http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-copyrighteditems.html
>
>
>ebay is very good about this sort of thing.
>
>
>
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RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Ken Birdwell]

http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-software.html
 
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-copyrighteditems.html
 
ebay is very good about 
this sort of thing.
 
 

  

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Nathan Taylor]

yea, exactly :)    - Original Message - From: Miguel Aleman Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 8:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b    EBay isn't a publically funded website. I think what you were trying to say was, don't sell it on a public website.  - Original Message -  From: Nathan Taylor  To: HLCoders  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b    Yikes, he's gunna get eaten...     Lesson number one in piracy: don't do it; lesson number 2: if you must do it don't do it on a publicly funded website...  - Original Message - From: Christopher Long Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b  no problem mr birdwell. This guy has more then one for sale though. He has like 6 auctions if you check his current sellings items so you might wanna nab him on all of them.   He's sold piratedf versions of wolfenstein as well but i suppose thats for others to look into :). Just doing what i can to decrease the lamer population.  - Original Message -  From: Ken Birdwell  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:33 AM Subject: RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b  Yes, selling* copyrighted material w/o permission is illegal.  Sierra goes through and has ebay remove these items when they find them, but it looks like they missed a few.  Thanks.      -Original Message-From: Christopher Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1314287113      Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the already huge cheating problem in online games.  Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Get more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Miguel Aleman]

EBay isn't a publically funded website. I think what you 
were trying to say was, don't sell it on a public website.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Nathan Taylor 

  To: HLCoders 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:16 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody 
  n00b
  
   
  Yikes, he's gunna get eaten...  
   
  Lesson number one in piracy: don't do it; lesson number 2: if you 
  must do it don't do it on a publicly funded website...
  
- Original Message -
From: 
Christopher Long
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:14 
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody 
n00b
 



no problem mr birdwell. This guy has more then 
one for sale though. He has like 6 auctions if you check his current 
sellings items so you might wanna nab him on all of them.
 
He's sold piratedf versions of wolfenstein as 
well but i suppose thats for others to look into :). Just doing what i can 
to decrease the lamer population.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ken 
  Birdwell 
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 
  8:33 AM
  Subject: RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody 
  n00b
  
  Yes, selling* copyrighted material w/o permission 
  is illegal.  Sierra goes through and has ebay remove these items 
  when they find them, but it looks like they missed a few.  
  Thanks.
   
   
   -Original 
  Message-From: Christopher Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
  
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1314287113
 
 
 Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and 
update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this 
dork punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a 
dork he is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to 
extend the already huge cheating problem in online 
games.
  
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Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Nathan Taylor]

  Yikes, he's gunna get eaten...     Lesson number one in piracy: don't do it; lesson number 2: if you must do it don't do it on a publicly funded website...  - Original Message - From: Christopher Long Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b  no problem mr birdwell. This guy has more then one for sale though. He has like 6 auctions if you check his current sellings items so you might wanna nab him on all of them.   He's sold piratedf versions of wolfenstein as well but i suppose thats for others to look into :). Just doing what i can to decrease the lamer population.  - Original Message -  From: Ken Birdwell  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:33 AM Subject: RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b  Yes, selling* copyrighted material w/o permission is illegal.  Sierra goes through and has ebay remove these items when they find them, but it looks like they missed a few.  Thanks.      -Original Message-From: Christopher Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1314287113      Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the already huge cheating problem in online games.Get more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Nathan Taylor]

heh, screwed...    - Original Message - From: Ken Birdwell Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b  Yes, selling* copyrighted material w/o permission is illegal.  Sierra goes through and has ebay remove these items when they find them, but it looks like they missed a few.  Thanks.      -Original Message-From: Christopher Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1314287113      Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the already huge cheating problem in online games.Get more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)

[Nathan Taylor]

Happy New Year    - Original Message - From: Cortex Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)  I don't need anyone on my computer :) More seriously, it works ;) I use now my 4 mouse buttons in HL :)   Thanks to all helped me :)   CortexHL Albator coder & mapperwww.hlalbator.fr.st  - Original Message -  From: leming  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update) I'm with tom in that it can get more confusing trying to remember what you had a button (or key) bound to when you have more keys to deal with. Considering that hundreds, probably thousands of people get along without custom binding every peripheral in their possession to control a game, I think I'm safe in saying that you don't need to bind anything extra than the defaults. If it isn't working at all for you, say screw it and just play the game. Its about the game, not a contest to see who can have the most insane binds. Also to add onto what Tom said, if you set a button on your mouse to a function that isn't used in the game by default, you can just bind to that function instead of the button itself. I bound my mouse4 to F12, and it works as my comm button for roger wilco. A whole lot easier than trying to hit F12 while playing the game, I'll tell ya that much =)If you can't get it working by now, get someone on your computer who can get it working, or it would probably be best to just leave it as it is.--lemingAt 15:31 12/25/2001 +, you wrote:>in the logitech setup, bind mouse4 to shift, and then in hl bind shift to >whatever u want mouse 4 to be and it should work. IMHO the 4th button is >useless though cos its hard to concentrate on 4 buttons let alone 3 whist >shooting>- Original Message ->From: Nathan Taylor>To: HLCoders>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 2:26 PM>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)>>type bind mouse3  and see what shows up in console, also try bind mouse5>>- Original Message ->From: Cortex>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:10 AM>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)>>I don't get these messages at the console...>- Original Message ->From: Nathan Taylor>To: HLCoders>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 1:50 PM>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)>>umm yea u can.   assuming that they are unbound start hl in -dev mode and >when u click your mouse buttons other than mouse1 and mouse2 you will see >it print in the up left corner "mouse3 unbound" "mouse4 unbound" "mouse5 >unbound" etc (I have 5 buttons)>>-Lakario>>- Original Message ->From: Cortex>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 7:48 AM>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)>>OK ;)>>So, I can't use 4 buttons in HL but 3 :( There isn't any>"forth button" field in Logitech Mouseware :(>>Thanks all :)>- Original Message ->From: leming>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 4:51 AM>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)>>I presume that the logitech mice work similarly to the MS mice. I have the>optical explorer from ms, and in order for me (and you most likely) to be>able to use side buttons and the middle wheel button, those buttons CAN NOT>be set to perform another function in windows. In your mouseware software,>in the screen where you set the function for the buttons, I believe it is a>drop down list, and there should be something like "Middle Button" or>"Button 3" or similar. You need that selected for HL to recognize it as>mouse3. This is so for my MS mouse, as my back side button is set for>nothing, thus it is mouse4, but my front side button is a double click (NOT>mouse5) and will not behave or be recognized as mouse5. As everyone has>said before me, but possibly not as clearly, the middle button CAN NOT BE>SET TO PASTE OR ANY OTHER FUNCTION PROVIDED BY THE MOUSEWARE SOFTWARE. You>must put the setting on to "None", "Middle Button" or another similar>option. Once the actual OS is seeing it as a true middle button, it would>only be common sense that applications within that OS would also see it as>the middle button (other than the drivers controlling the mouse itself, of>course).>>-->leming>>At 15:47 12/23/2001 -0800, you wrote:> >As long as MouseWare supports 4-button mice, this should work.> >> >--- Cortex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Thanks> > >> > > However I'll reexplain my problem, because I'm not sure everybody> > > has un

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Christopher Long]

no problem mr birdwell. This guy has more then one 
for sale though. He has like 6 auctions if you check his current sellings items 
so you might wanna nab him on all of them.
 
He's sold piratedf versions of wolfenstein as well 
but i suppose thats for others to look into :). Just doing what i can to 
decrease the lamer population.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ken 
  Birdwell 
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:33 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody 
  n00b
  
  Yes, 
  selling* copyrighted material w/o permission is illegal.  Sierra 
  goes through and has ebay remove these items when they find them, but it looks 
  like they missed a few.  Thanks.
   
   
   -Original 
  Message-From: Christopher Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
  
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1314287113
 
 
 Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and 
update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork 
punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he 
is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the 
already huge cheating problem in online 
games.

RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Ken Birdwell]

Yes, 
selling* copyrighted material w/o permission is illegal.  Sierra goes 
through and has ebay remove these items when they find them, but it looks like 
they missed a few.  Thanks.
 
 
 -Original Message-From: 
Christopher Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 
December 26, 2001 2:26 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [hlcoders] what a bloody 
n00b

  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1314287113
   
   
   Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and update 
  patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork punished. 
  So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he is.. and 
  for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the already huge 
  cheating problem in online 
games.

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Patrick Phillips]

Lamers turn
the regulars
into flamers
of the lamers
who think they're gamers

/me is lame and bored on his break.

>From: "Christopher Long" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
>Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 22:49:57 +1000
>
>hahaha thats not all after checking out his other auctions this is what i 
>got and also note that i will put a comment beside each.
>
>  dangte (2) Dec-21-01 19:29:21 PST 1310656341 S
>  Complaint : Tried to sell pirated software...Did not complete the 
>transaction...
>   MY NOTE - hmmm well he didn't even respond to this
>
>  regista4eva (19)  Dec-21-01 16:52:49 PST 1298022634 S
>  Complaint : Is a child and shouldnt be on ebay.Charged 5 dollars for 
>ship. when it costed 1!
>  Response by gr_lam - Got angry when they found out i was 16. Should 
>have looked at shipping cost b4
>  MY NOTE - well considering you have to be at least 18 to use ebay he 
>made his first mistake admitting he was 16
>
>
>   baby1228 (67)  Dec-19-01 17:17:54 PST 1310720779 B
>  Complaint : "BUY IT NOW'& TURN AROUND SAID HIS PARENTS NOT ALLOW HIM 
>TO BUY & REFUSE TO PAY
>  Response by gr_lam - ParentsLetMeBuyItNow, So I did but later on my 
>parents said no. WHYisITmyFAULT?
>
>   MY NOTE - its your fault mate cause you for one saying you will buy 
>it then later decline with a lame reason. This is not on
>
>   also lets not stop there. here are other things he is selling
>
> 1314286826 Dec-25-01 Jan-01-02 20:52:27 $3.50 Counterstrike w/ 
>Cheats Hacks and More! OGC  No Bids Yet
> 1314286976 Dec-25-01 Jan-01-02 20:53:43 $3.50 Counter-Strike 
>plus Cheats Hacks Maps More  No Bids Yet
> 1314287113 Dec-25-01 Dec-28-01 20:54:40 $3.50 CS 
>counter-strike counterstrike PLUS CHEATS!  No Bids Yet
> 1314287309 Dec-25-01 Dec-28-01 20:56:09 $3.50 Counter-strike 
>updates + Cheats Hacks Maps !  No Bids Yet
> 1314296110 Dec-25-01 Jan-01-02 22:28:25 $3.50 Ti-86 Ti86 
>Graphing Calculator New w/ PC LINK  No Bids Yet
>
>
>   i myself am guessing the Ti-86 calculator is stolen from school :)
>
>   but he is a serious lamer and all i was looking for was 40k 
>minatures. :(
>   just goes to show i suppose hehe lamers are everywhere.
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Nathan Taylor
>   To: HLCoders
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 8:42 PM
>   Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
>
>
>   wow, he should die...
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Long
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1314287113
> go check that out... i find it extremely lame. I remember a post a 
>while back on phl on how someone was selling hacks on ebay so i thought i'd 
>see if the trend is still there... well only one guy.
>
> What i find worse is he is selling on a cd update patches to something 
>not owned by him. This is what he is listed as selling
> Counter-strike full version installation 1.1
> Counter-strike updates to 1.3 (current)
>
> Half-life update to 1.1.0.7
>
> Half-life update to 1.1.0.8(current)
>
> Maps you get(very popular): AWP_MAP, AWP_MAP2, SCOUT_MAP, HE_TENNIS
>
> Wally texture editor (edit textures in the game)
>
> Half-life logo creater (spray paint a picture on the walls in 
>Counterstrike, w/ any picture you have on your computer)
>
> OGC CHEAT(current version)
>
> OGC PUNKBUSTER HACK(bypasses punkbuster servers even if you have OGC 
>CHEAT!)
>
>
> Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and update 
>patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork 
>punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he 
>is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the 
>already huge cheating problem in online games.
>
>
>
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Re: [hlcoders] Linux problem

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

To get the Rho-Bot to work with MingW32, I needed to link to the stdc++ library.  Maybe
you need to include an -lstdc++ to the mp.dll portion of the make file.

-Scott

alfred wrote:

> Looks like you are using the ios c++ classes, but the linux .so (dll)
> can't find that object within its libraries. Perhaps you need to include
> another header file?
>
> Dave R. Meyers wrote:
>
> > Ok, here is a copy of a log I received from Sparken how is helping me get
> > the rho-bot code back into OZ under Linux.  He is using the egcs version
> > recommended by valve (egcs 1.1.2?).  Now the code compiles and runs just
> > fine without the bot code, but once the bot code is added, then run this
> > happens.  Now from my understanding, it compiles just fine, with no big
> > problems.  But as I was not even able to get it this far by myself, I am not
> > even sure where to start offering help.  Anyone seen this before, and we
> > searched through all the code, and there is no reference to __vt_3ios that
> > we can find???
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > Here is a copy of the entire log file:
> > --
> > Host_Init
> > Added packfile /beta/hl_2/valve/pak0.pak (985 files)
> > Added packfile /beta/hl_2/oz/pak0.pak (73 files)
> > Protocol version 45
> > Exe version 4.1.0.8
> > Exe build: 15:09:28 Sep 17 2001 (1789)
> > WON Auth Server
> > couldn't exec language.cfg
> > Server logging data to file /beta/hl_2/oz/logs/L1224133.log
> > L 12/24/2001 - 14:57:52: Log file started (file
> > "/beta/hl_2/oz/logs/L1224133.log") (game "oz") (version "45/4.1.0.8/1789")
> > L 12/24/2001 - 14:57:52: Log file closed
> > Server logging data to file /beta/hl_2/oz/logs/L1224134.log
> > L 12/24/2001 - 14:57:52: Log file started (file
> > "/beta/hl_2/oz/logs/L1224134.log") (game "oz") (version "45/4.1.0.8/1789")
> > LoadLibrary failed on /beta/hl_2/oz/dlls/mp_i386.so:
> > /beta/hl_2/oz/dlls/mp_i386.so: undefined symbol: __vt_3ios
> > Host_Error: Couldn't get DLL API from /beta/hl_2/oz/dlls/mp_i386.so!
> > Error Host_Error: Couldn't get DLL API from /beta/hl_2/oz/dlls/mp_i386.so!
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)

[Cortex]

I don't need anyone on my computer 
:)
More seriously, it works ;) I use 
now my 4 mouse buttons in HL 
:)
 
Thanks to all helped me :)
 
CortexHL 
Albator coder & mapperwww.hlalbator.fr.st

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  leming 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:43 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse 
  third button in HL (update)
  I'm with tom in that it can get more confusing trying to 
  remember what you had a button (or key) bound to when you have more keys 
  to deal with. Considering that hundreds, probably thousands of people get 
  along without custom binding every peripheral in their possession to 
  control a game, I think I'm safe in saying that you don't need to bind 
  anything extra than the defaults. If it isn't working at all for you, say 
  screw it and just play the game. Its about the game, not a contest to see 
  who can have the most insane binds. Also to add onto what Tom said, if you 
  set a button on your mouse to a function that isn't used in the game by 
  default, you can just bind to that function instead of the button itself. 
  I bound my mouse4 to F12, and it works as my comm button for roger wilco. 
  A whole lot easier than trying to hit F12 while playing the game, I'll 
  tell ya that much =)If you can't get it working by now, get someone on 
  your computer who can get it working, or it would probably be best to just 
  leave it as it is.--lemingAt 15:31 12/25/2001 +, you 
  wrote:>in the logitech setup, bind mouse4 to shift, and then in hl bind 
  shift to >whatever u want mouse 4 to be and it should work. IMHO the 
  4th button is >useless though cos its hard to concentrate on 4 buttons 
  let alone 3 whist >shooting>- Original Message 
  ->From: Nathan 
  Taylor>To: HLCoders>Sent: 
  Tuesday, December 25, 2001 2:26 PM>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech 
  mouse third button in HL (update)>>type bind mouse3  and 
  see what shows up in console, also try bind mouse5>>- 
  Original Message ->From: Cortex>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 
  2001 9:10 AM>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: 
  Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)>>I 
  don't get these messages at the console...>- Original Message 
  ->From: Nathan 
  Taylor>To: HLCoders>Sent: 
  Tuesday, December 25, 2001 1:50 PM>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech 
  mouse third button in HL (update)>>umm yea u can.   
  assuming that they are unbound start hl in -dev mode and >when u click 
  your mouse buttons other than mouse1 and mouse2 you will see >it print 
  in the up left corner "mouse3 unbound" "mouse4 unbound" "mouse5 
  >unbound" etc (I have 5 
  buttons)>>-Lakario>>- Original Message 
  ->From: Cortex>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 7:48 
  AM>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: 
  Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)>>OK 
  ;)>>So, I can't use 4 buttons in HL but 3 :( There isn't 
  any>"forth button" field in Logitech Mouseware :(>>Thanks 
  all :)>- Original Message ->From: leming>To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: 
  Monday, December 24, 2001 4:51 AM>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech 
  mouse third button in HL (update)>>I presume that the logitech 
  mice work similarly to the MS mice. I have the>optical explorer from 
  ms, and in order for me (and you most likely) to be>able to use side 
  buttons and the middle wheel button, those buttons CAN NOT>be set to 
  perform another function in windows. In your mouseware software,>in the 
  screen where you set the function for the buttons, I believe it is 
  a>drop down list, and there should be something like "Middle Button" 
  or>"Button 3" or similar. You need that selected for HL to recognize it 
  as>mouse3. This is so for my MS mouse, as my back side button is set 
  for>nothing, thus it is mouse4, but my front side button is a double 
  click (NOT>mouse5) and will not behave or be recognized as mouse5. As 
  everyone has>said before me, but possibly not as clearly, the middle 
  button CAN NOT BE>SET TO PASTE OR ANY OTHER FUNCTION PROVIDED BY THE 
  MOUSEWARE SOFTWARE. You>must put the setting on to "None", "Middle 
  Button" or another similar>option. Once the actual OS is seeing it as a 
  true middle button, it would>only be common sense that applications 
  within that OS would also see it as>the middle button (other than the 
  drivers controlling the mouse itself, 
  of>course).>>-->leming>>At 15:47 
  12/23/2001 -0800, you wrote:> >As long as MouseWare supports 
  4-button mice, this should work.> >> >--- Cortex 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:> > > Thanks> > >> > > However 
  I'll reexplain my problem, beca

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Christopher Long]

hahaha thats not all after checking out his other auctions 
this is what i got and also note that i will put a comment beside 
each.
 


  
  

dangte 
  (2)
Dec-21-01 19:29:21 PST
1310656341
S
  


  Complaint : Tried to sell 
  pirated software...Did not complete the transaction... 
  MY NOTE - hmmm well he didn't even respond to 
  this
   
  

regista4eva 
  (19) 
  
Dec-21-01 16:52:49 PST
1298022634
S
  

Complaint : 
  Is a child and shouldnt be on ebay.Charged 5 dollars for ship. 
  when it costed 1! 
  


  Response by gr_lam - Got angry when they found out i was 16. 
  Should have looked at shipping cost b4 
  


  MY NOTE - well considering you have to be at least 18 to 
  use ebay he made his first mistake admitting he was 16
   
   
  baby1228 
  (67) 
  
Dec-19-01 17:17:54 PST
1310720779
B
  

Complaint : 
  "BUY IT NOW'& TURN AROUND SAID HIS PARENTS NOT ALLOW HIM TO 
  BUY & REFUSE TO PAY 
  


  Response by gr_lam - ParentsLetMeBuyItNow, So I did but later 
  on my parents said no. WHYisITmyFAULT? 
   
  MY NOTE - its your fault mate cause you for one saying you will buy 
  it then later decline with a lame reason. This is not on
   
  also lets not stop there. here are other things he 
  is selling
   
  


  1314286826
  Dec-25-01
  Jan-01-02 20:52:27
  $3.50
  Counterstrike w/ Cheats Hacks and More! OGC 
  
  No Bids Yet 

  1314286976
  Dec-25-01
  Jan-01-02 20:53:43
  $3.50
  Counter-Strike plus Cheats Hacks Maps More 
  
  No Bids Yet 

  1314287113
  Dec-25-01
  Dec-28-01 20:54:40
  $3.50
  CS counter-strike counterstrike PLUS CHEATS! 

  No Bids Yet 

  1314287309
  Dec-25-01
  Dec-28-01 20:56:09
  $3.50
  Counter-strike updates + Cheats Hacks Maps ! 

  No Bids Yet 

  1314296110
  Dec-25-01
  Jan-01-02 22:28:25
  $3.50
  Ti-86 Ti86 Graphing Calculator New w/ PC LINK 

  No Bids Yet 
   
  i myself am guessing the Ti-86 calculator is stolen from school 
  :)
   
  but he is a serious lamer and all i was looking for was 40k 
  minatures. :(
  just goes to show i suppose hehe lamers are 
everywhere.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Nathan Taylor 

  To: HLCoders 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 8:42 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody 
  n00b
  
  wow, he should die...
  
- Original Message -
From: 
Christopher Long
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:27 
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [hlcoders] what a bloody 
n00b
 



http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1314287113
go check that out... i find it extremely lame. 
I remember a post a while back on phl on how someone was selling hacks on 
ebay so i thought i'd see if the trend is still there... well only one 
guy.
 
What i find worse is he is selling on a cd 
update patches to something not owned by him. This is what he is listed as 
selling
Counter-strike full version 
installation 1.1

Counter-strike updates to 1.3 (current) 
Half-life update to 1.1.0.7 
Half-life update to 1.1.0.8(current) 
Maps you get(very popular): AWP_MAP, AWP_MAP2, SCOUT_MAP, HE_TENNIS 
Wally texture editor (edit textures in the game) 
Half-life logo creater (spray paint a picture on the walls in 
Counterstrike, w/ any picture you have on your computer) 
OGC CHEAT(current version) 
OGC PUNKBUSTER HACK(bypasses punkbuster servers even if you have OGC 
CHEAT!) 

Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs 
and update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this 
dork punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork 
he is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend 
the already huge cheating problem in online 
  games.
  
  Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
  


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Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Nathan Taylor]

wow, he should die...  - Original Message - From: Christopher Long Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1314287113 go check that out... i find it extremely lame. I remember a post a while back on phl on how someone was selling hacks on ebay so i thought i'd see if the trend is still there... well only one guy.   What i find worse is he is selling on a cd update patches to something not owned by him. This is what he is listed as selling Counter-strike full version installation 1.1  Counter-strike updates to 1.3 (current)  Half-life update to 1.1.0.7  Half-life update to 1.1.0.8(current)  Maps you get(very popular): AWP_MAP, AWP_MAP2, SCOUT_MAP, HE_TENNIS  Wally texture editor (edit textures in the game)  Half-life logo creater (spray paint a picture on the walls in Counterstrike, w/ any picture you have on your computer)  OGC CHEAT(current version)  OGC PUNKBUSTER HACK(bypasses punkbuster servers even if you have OGC CHEAT!)Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the already huge cheating problem in online games.Get more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

[hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

[Christopher Long]

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1314287113
go check that out... i find it extremely lame. I 
remember a post a while back on phl on how someone was selling hacks on ebay so 
i thought i'd see if the trend is still there... well only one guy.
 
What i find worse is he is selling on a cd update 
patches to something not owned by him. This is what he is listed as 
selling
Counter-strike full version 
installation 1.1

Counter-strike updates to 1.3 (current) 
Half-life update to 1.1.0.7 
Half-life update to 1.1.0.8(current) 
Maps you get(very popular): AWP_MAP, AWP_MAP2, SCOUT_MAP, HE_TENNIS 
Wally texture editor (edit textures in the game) 
Half-life logo creater (spray paint a picture on the walls in Counterstrike, 
w/ any picture you have on your computer) 
OGC CHEAT(current version) 
OGC PUNKBUSTER HACK(bypasses punkbuster servers even if you have OGC CHEAT!) 
 
Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and 
update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork 
punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he 
is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the 
already huge cheating problem in online 
games.

Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)

[leming]

I'm with tom in that it can get more confusing trying to remember what you 
had a button (or key) bound to when you have more keys to deal with. 
Considering that hundreds, probably thousands of people get along without 
custom binding every peripheral in their possession to control a game, I 
think I'm safe in saying that you don't need to bind anything extra than 
the defaults. If it isn't working at all for you, say screw it and just 
play the game. Its about the game, not a contest to see who can have the 
most insane binds. Also to add onto what Tom said, if you set a button on 
your mouse to a function that isn't used in the game by default, you can 
just bind to that function instead of the button itself. I bound my mouse4 
to F12, and it works as my comm button for roger wilco. A whole lot easier 
than trying to hit F12 while playing the game, I'll tell ya that much =)

If you can't get it working by now, get someone on your computer who can 
get it working, or it would probably be best to just leave it as it is.

--
leming

At 15:31 12/25/2001 +, you wrote:
>in the logitech setup, bind mouse4 to shift, and then in hl bind shift to 
>whatever u want mouse 4 to be and it should work. IMHO the 4th button is 
>useless though cos its hard to concentrate on 4 buttons let alone 3 whist 
>shooting
>- Original Message -
>From: Nathan Taylor
>To: HLCoders
>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 2:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)
>
>type bind mouse3  and see what shows up in console, also try bind mouse5
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Cortex
>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:10 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)
>
>I don't get these messages at the console...
>- Original Message -
>From: Nathan Taylor
>To: HLCoders
>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 1:50 PM
>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)
>
>umm yea u can.   assuming that they are unbound start hl in -dev mode and 
>when u click your mouse buttons other than mouse1 and mouse2 you will see 
>it print in the up left corner "mouse3 unbound" "mouse4 unbound" "mouse5 
>unbound" etc (I have 5 buttons)
>
>-Lakario
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Cortex
>Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 7:48 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)
>
>OK ;)
>
>So, I can't use 4 buttons in HL but 3 :( There isn't any
>"forth button" field in Logitech Mouseware :(
>
>Thanks all :)
>- Original Message -
>From: leming
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 4:51 AM
>Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)
>
>I presume that the logitech mice work similarly to the MS mice. I have the
>optical explorer from ms, and in order for me (and you most likely) to be
>able to use side buttons and the middle wheel button, those buttons CAN NOT
>be set to perform another function in windows. In your mouseware software,
>in the screen where you set the function for the buttons, I believe it is a
>drop down list, and there should be something like "Middle Button" or
>"Button 3" or similar. You need that selected for HL to recognize it as
>mouse3. This is so for my MS mouse, as my back side button is set for
>nothing, thus it is mouse4, but my front side button is a double click (NOT
>mouse5) and will not behave or be recognized as mouse5. As everyone has
>said before me, but possibly not as clearly, the middle button CAN NOT BE
>SET TO PASTE OR ANY OTHER FUNCTION PROVIDED BY THE MOUSEWARE SOFTWARE. You
>must put the setting on to "None", "Middle Button" or another similar
>option. Once the actual OS is seeing it as a true middle button, it would
>only be common sense that applications within that OS would also see it as
>the middle button (other than the drivers controlling the mouse itself, of
>course).
>
>--
>leming
>
>At 15:47 12/23/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >As long as MouseWare supports 4-button mice, this should work.
> >
> >--- Cortex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > However I'll reexplain my problem, because I'm not sure everybody
> > > has understood :( My english is not very good :(
> > >
> > > So, I want to use the third (wheel button) and the forth (side)
> > > button in HL. In mouseWare (lastest version), I can set a function to
> > > the two buttons. If I set them "Third button", HL works fine with them
> > > but they have the same action ;( So, I wanted to set a "Forth button"
> > > to the side button, so as to have two different actions for the two
> > buttons.
> > > Is this possible ?
> > >
> > > I hope you'll understand ;) If not, I'll re-reexplain :)
> > >
> > > --