Re: [hlcoders] I'm DOA. Does the SDK work better on Windows XP?
I'm using hammer + compile tools, vtex, everything on win 2k, no problems so far. Octi - Original Message - From: Robert Oschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:41 PM Subject: [hlcoders] I'm DOA. Does the SDK work better on Windows XP? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm assuming that since no one has any solutions to my last thread about Hammer being unusable that Im a dead duck, at least on my current platform. I'm currently running on Windows 2000 sp 5. Does the Source SDK + Steam work better on Windows XP? I also was one of those people that on Windows 2000 is having really bad audio stuttering at odd times when playing HL2. If Windows XP is better, is there a document that will tell me the most painless way to migrate my Source SDK + Steam install on Windows 2000 to Windows XP? It's a dual boot system if that makes a difference. Thanks. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Still need this assert?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It happens for me every time the duck key is released as well. There's a nearby comment that says it should rarely or never happen. I assume something changed (or something that was supposed to change didn't) between when the assert was added and now. Anyway, I doubt there's any harm in removing it. On 11/7/06, Eric Van Huss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] This is for the recently released sdk update. I'm new and playing around with the sdk so I'll probably sound as such. I'm using 2005 Express. At the end of CGameMovement::Duck there's a hack check to make sure the viewoffset z value is correct. In the comments about this check it says it might not be needed but it's there to make sure people know if a certain bug is happening. I'm getting this assert after letting go of duck almost every time. If I comment out 'SetDuckedEyeOffset(0.0f)' ,at the end of the assert check, the code still works and the player's viewoffset z value gets changed to the correct value on it's own(64.0). In case anyone wants to know...! FinishUnDuck() sets the player's viewoffset(z = 64.0). It then goes back to engine.dll(which is a pain to debug :) ). Engine.dll calls CHLClient::FrameStageNotify - OnRenderStart(), which down the line calls C_BaseEntity::Interp_Interpolate(). The for loop in this method changes the z value of the player's viewoffset. Then Duck() gets called again and the assert happens. I guess this check/assert is not letting interpolation run its course? So do we still need this check/assert. Or maybe a better conditional check? Thanks, EJ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Still need this assert?
When I find any asserts i just comment them out. On 11/8/06, Skillet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It happens for me every time the duck key is released as well. There's a nearby comment that says it should rarely or never happen. I assume something changed (or something that was supposed to change didn't) between when the assert was added and now. Anyway, I doubt there's any harm in removing it. On 11/7/06, Eric Van Huss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] This is for the recently released sdk update. I'm new and playing around with the sdk so I'll probably sound as such. I'm using 2005 Express. At the end of CGameMovement::Duck there's a hack check to make sure the viewoffset z value is correct. In the comments about this check it says it might not be needed but it's there to make sure people know if a certain bug is happening. I'm getting this assert after letting go of duck almost every time. If I comment out 'SetDuckedEyeOffset(0.0f)' ,at the end of the assert check, the code still works and the player's viewoffset z value gets changed to the correct value on it's own(64.0). In case anyone wants to know...! FinishUnDuck() sets the player's viewoffset(z = 64.0). It then goes back to engine.dll(which is a pain to debug :) ). Engine.dll calls CHLClient::FrameStageNotify - OnRenderStart(), which down the line calls C_BaseEntity::Interp_Interpolate(). The for loop in this method changes the z value of the player's viewoffset. Then Duck() gets called again and the assert happens. I guess this check/assert is not letting interpolation run its course? So do we still need this check/assert. Or maybe a better conditional check? Thanks, EJ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
[hlcoders] November SDK - Final
Hey Looks like the nov sdk is final - did all the bugs get fixed mike? Nigredo Studios http://www.nigredostudios.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final
What bugs? On 11/8/06, Adam amckern Mckern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Looks like the nov sdk is final - did all the bugs get fixed mike? Nigredo Studios http://www.nigredostudios.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final
Well, you never know - there might have been something that Mike was sent via off list that we don't know about. I did not find anything - other then i need to change the CST BSP version to 20 (and then thats my own code). So yeah, I am just wondering if there is any changes that have been made from -beta 1031? Adam --- Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What bugs? On 11/8/06, Adam amckern Mckern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Looks like the nov sdk is final - did all the bugs get fixed mike? Nigredo Studios http://www.nigredostudios.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders Nigredo Studios http://www.nigredostudios.com Sponsored Link For just $24.99/mo., Vonage offers unlimited local and long- distance calling. Sign up now. http://www.vonage.com/startsavingnow/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final
Hi All- No bug fixes. The release SDK is pretty much the same as the beta version. The bugs that showed up in Bugzilla either seemed minor or were not related to anything new in this SDK drop so I haven't addressed them yet. It seemed that most people had no trouble getting it to work with VS 2005 - which was the main new feature. Speaking of Bugzilla: make sure that you guys vote for the bugs that you really care about. Only 5 of the 62 current bugs have any votes at all! -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam amckern Mckern Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:33 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final Well, you never know - there might have been something that Mike was sent via off list that we don't know about. I did not find anything - other then i need to change the CST BSP version to 20 (and then thats my own code). So yeah, I am just wondering if there is any changes that have been made from -beta 1031? Adam --- Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What bugs? On 11/8/06, Adam amckern Mckern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Looks like the nov sdk is final - did all the bugs get fixed mike? Nigredo Studios http://www.nigredostudios.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders Nigredo Studios http://www.nigredostudios.com Sponsored Link For just $24.99/mo., Vonage offers unlimited local and long- distance calling. Sign up now. http://www.vonage.com/startsavingnow/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final
On Wednesday 08 November 2006 6:31 pm, Mike Durand wrote: Speaking of Bugzilla: make sure that you guys vote for the bugs that you really care about. Only 5 of the 62 current bugs have any votes at all! I vote for... all of them. -John Sheu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final
Then I will be able to effectively prioritize... none of them. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sheu Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:42 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final On Wednesday 08 November 2006 6:31 pm, Mike Durand wrote: Speaking of Bugzilla: make sure that you guys vote for the bugs that you really care about. Only 5 of the 62 current bugs have any votes at all! I vote for... all of them. -John Sheu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final
I will try to vote later tonight on some of the bugs. I don't remember if I created a account for bugzilla yet or not, I have too many accounts to remember, and waay too many passwords. Thanks Mike again for releasing the update. These updates help us coders a great deal. On 11/8/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I will be able to effectively prioritize... none of them. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sheu Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:42 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final On Wednesday 08 November 2006 6:31 pm, Mike Durand wrote: Speaking of Bugzilla: make sure that you guys vote for the bugs that you really care about. Only 5 of the 62 current bugs have any votes at all! I vote for... all of them. -John Sheu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Could we please bias some bugs on their age? We've been waiting on those bot fixes for several years now, and there still isn't and end in sight to it. There are a number of bot coders(and users no doubt) that would absolutely love to be able to make bots for CS:S, DOD:S, HL2DM, and other hl2 mods with the server plugin interface that has been forever lacking in functionality. Even if it was an incremental fix, adding the most important missing parts to begin with, and the rest later it would be greatly appreciated. I'm doing bots for Fortress Forever, using the SDK due to the server plugin shortfalls, so I have a good amount of experience with bots if you need help or info. Jeremy On 11/8/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to vote later tonight on some of the bugs. I don't remember if I created a account for bugzilla yet or not, I have too many accounts to remember, and waay too many passwords. Thanks Mike again for releasing the update. These updates help us coders a great deal. On 11/8/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I will be able to effectively prioritize... none of them. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sheu Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:42 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final On Wednesday 08 November 2006 6:31 pm, Mike Durand wrote: Speaking of Bugzilla: make sure that you guys vote for the bugs that you really care about. Only 5 of the 62 current bugs have any votes at all! I vote for... all of them. -John Sheu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final
I never liked the idea of bots. Mostly because they are just that robots. I haven't yet seen a robot that could learn, and if I did I don't know if I would want to play against one anyway. On 11/8/06, Jeremy Swigart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Could we please bias some bugs on their age? We've been waiting on those bot fixes for several years now, and there still isn't and end in sight to it. There are a number of bot coders(and users no doubt) that would absolutely love to be able to make bots for CS:S, DOD:S, HL2DM, and other hl2 mods with the server plugin interface that has been forever lacking in functionality. Even if it was an incremental fix, adding the most important missing parts to begin with, and the rest later it would be greatly appreciated. I'm doing bots for Fortress Forever, using the SDK due to the server plugin shortfalls, so I have a good amount of experience with bots if you need help or info. Jeremy On 11/8/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to vote later tonight on some of the bugs. I don't remember if I created a account for bugzilla yet or not, I have too many accounts to remember, and waay too many passwords. Thanks Mike again for releasing the update. These updates help us coders a great deal. On 11/8/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I will be able to effectively prioritize... none of them. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sheu Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:42 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final On Wednesday 08 November 2006 6:31 pm, Mike Durand wrote: Speaking of Bugzilla: make sure that you guys vote for the bugs that you really care about. Only 5 of the 62 current bugs have any votes at all! I vote for... all of them. -John Sheu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
[hlcoders] Re: I'm DOA. Does the SDK work better on Windows XP?
comon game programming is one of the most dynamic areas in science...vista will be out soon and 2000 is so outa date i cant imagine what your trying to do...you have to move like water in a fast stream to even begin to imagine whats going on here..forget 2000 move on...I mean take a doctor for example..he/she cant begin to practice medicine as a whole..they have to select a area of specialty..how do you think you can keep up with such an old platform..with games one day and the universe changes... _ Advertisement: House hunt online now! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Erealestate%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Frsearch%3Fa%3Dbhp%26t%3Dres%26cu%3DMSN_t=758874163_r=HM_EndText_Nov06_m=EXT ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Your point? I'm happy for you that you are among the people that hate bots, though I'm not sure why you would share that here, your personal bot preferences have no bearing on the subject of fixes that have been put off for years. J On 11/8/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never liked the idea of bots. Mostly because they are just that robots. I haven't yet seen a robot that could learn, and if I did I don't know if I would want to play against one anyway. On 11/8/06, Jeremy Swigart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Could we please bias some bugs on their age? We've been waiting on those bot fixes for several years now, and there still isn't and end in sight to it. There are a number of bot coders(and users no doubt) that would absolutely love to be able to make bots for CS:S, DOD:S, HL2DM, and other hl2 mods with the server plugin interface that has been forever lacking in functionality. Even if it was an incremental fix, adding the most important missing parts to begin with, and the rest later it would be greatly appreciated. I'm doing bots for Fortress Forever, using the SDK due to the server plugin shortfalls, so I have a good amount of experience with bots if you need help or info. Jeremy On 11/8/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to vote later tonight on some of the bugs. I don't remember if I created a account for bugzilla yet or not, I have too many accounts to remember, and waay too many passwords. Thanks Mike again for releasing the update. These updates help us coders a great deal. On 11/8/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I will be able to effectively prioritize... none of them. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sheu Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:42 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final On Wednesday 08 November 2006 6:31 pm, Mike Durand wrote: Speaking of Bugzilla: make sure that you guys vote for the bugs that you really care about. Only 5 of the 62 current bugs have any votes at all! I vote for... all of them. -John Sheu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final
Hello, i currently have an Problem with the new memoverride.cpp... I have included it in my compile allready but now after the update i get lots of errors like...: memoverride.cpp:812: Error: _CRT_ALLOC_HOOK isnt an type (translated) or line 781: _heap_alloc undeclared (first use this function) i have 17 errors in this file... All beginns at line 781... The new included source... So whats wrong with it? i compile with: gcc 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3) I hope you can help me! Sorry for the bad english! i am from germany :) With friendly reguards Ratman2000 - Original Message - From: Jeremy Swigart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Your point? I'm happy for you that you are among the people that hate bots, though I'm not sure why you would share that here, your personal bot preferences have no bearing on the subject of fixes that have been put off for years. J On 11/8/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never liked the idea of bots. Mostly because they are just that robots. I haven't yet seen a robot that could learn, and if I did I don't know if I would want to play against one anyway. On 11/8/06, Jeremy Swigart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Could we please bias some bugs on their age? We've been waiting on those bot fixes for several years now, and there still isn't and end in sight to it. There are a number of bot coders(and users no doubt) that would absolutely love to be able to make bots for CS:S, DOD:S, HL2DM, and other hl2 mods with the server plugin interface that has been forever lacking in functionality. Even if it was an incremental fix, adding the most important missing parts to begin with, and the rest later it would be greatly appreciated. I'm doing bots for Fortress Forever, using the SDK due to the server plugin shortfalls, so I have a good amount of experience with bots if you need help or info. Jeremy On 11/8/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to vote later tonight on some of the bugs. I don't remember if I created a account for bugzilla yet or not, I have too many accounts to remember, and waay too many passwords. Thanks Mike again for releasing the update. These updates help us coders a great deal. On 11/8/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I will be able to effectively prioritize... none of them. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sheu Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:42 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] November SDK - Final On Wednesday 08 November 2006 6:31 pm, Mike Durand wrote: Speaking of Bugzilla: make sure that you guys vote for the bugs that you really care about. Only 5 of the 62 current bugs have any votes at all! I vote for... all of them. -John Sheu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
