RE: [hlcoders] Mods on CD?

2003-05-28 Thread Geoff
Doesn't Fileplanet do this in effect anyway? Where you have the option
on the site to 'mail a cd' to yourself with the files you want. Not to
mention the plethora of Gaming magazines that regularly have mods on
their cover CDs.

-EvilGrin
http://halflife-central.com

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On Wed, 28 May 2003, Michael Shimmins wrote:
 Yahn once said to me that making money is not a good
 driving force behind the production of a mod.  Good advice.

I think the authors original point was to distribute the mod and cover
the
costs of distrobution, not to make a profit. Some people game via slower
net connections and it is not very easy to obtain a 200 plus meg file
via
the internet.

What I'd rather see is some officially sponsored (valve) method of
distrobuting mods on cd where one might get a smathering of mods on one
CD. Come to think of it, isn't this already being done via such places
as
fileshack where you can make your own cd by picking the files you want
and for a small fee recieve them on CD. I believe HL mods and patches
are
a part of this program already...

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RE: [hlcoders] Mods on CD?

2003-05-28 Thread Phil

 That was my point. There are websites where you can assembly a CD of files
 you want (for a small charge) and have it shipped to you. Obviously
 someone has already checked the legality of this...

Or maybe not since they would have to check the legality for every one of
their files and that would be a very difficult task to do.

-Philip


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Re: [hlcoders] Mods on CD?

2003-05-27 Thread MoD
 Now, therefore, in consideration of the mutual promises made herein, the
parties agree as follows:

1. License.

 1.1 License Grant.  Valve hereby grants Licensee a nonexclusive,
royalty-free, terminable, worldwide, nontransferable license to:

(a) use, reproduce and modify the SDK in source code form, solely to develop
a Mod; and

(b) reproduce, distribute and license the Mod in object code form, solely to
licensed end users of Half-Life, _without_charge_.

Apparently not.

--

MoD,

Often @ your service.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:14 PM
Subject: [hlcoders] Mods on CD?


 Lo, list ;)

 Some of my forum gnomes have been clamouring for me to sell cds
 with my mod on it. I wasn't exactly sure if this was legal as per the
 EULA. We wouldn't actually be making any profit from the sales of the cd
 - just whatever cafepress charges.

 Thanks for any (informed) responses...

 Jeff 'Kuja' Katz
 http://www.digitalpaintball.net


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RE: [hlcoders] Mods on CD?

2003-05-27 Thread Michael Shimmins
Actually I'd be very careful doing that.  Who's to say shipping didn't cost
$89.90?

My point is its not enough to be beyond reproach you have to appear to be
beyond reproach.  If you really are just charging for shipping, it may look
as though you are also making a bit on the side.

Apart from that, I don't think you can charge full stop.  I remember a few
years ago there was a discussion about this and the final answer was you
could charge for an internet distribution, but not for a distribution on
physical media.  I don't know if that has since changed.  You should email
Eric Smith and ask him.  He will pass it onto the relevant legal people.

Also on a side note, if you really want to make money from a mod, why not
look at more original ways of doing it rather than selling it perse?  Banner
ads etc for instance.  Yahn once said to me that making money is not a good
driving force behind the production of a mod.  Good advice.

Michael Shimmins
Sesechial Software

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On Tue, 27 May 2003, Jeff Katz wrote:

 Lo, list ;)

   Some of my forum gnomes have been clamouring for me to sell cds
 with my mod on it. I wasn't exactly sure if this was legal as per the
 EULA. We wouldn't actually be making any profit from the sales of the cd
 - just whatever cafepress charges.

 Thanks for any (informed) responses...

I doubt you could charge for the mod, but could probably charge for
shipping/handling and to cover cost of producing the CD itself. Linux is
free but you can buy redhat in the store or download it for free off
the redhat's site.

You should read Valve's license carefully since HL is not GPL'ed. But I
think you would be ok with charging 5-10 bucks or something for the CD
burned with mod on it and shipping charge included in that charge.

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