RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine

2007-01-10 Thread {MDA} Spotta
Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke

Hence the =]

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some answers take longer and rely on other people - give him a break!
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RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine

2007-01-10 Thread {MDA} Spotta
Lol!

That's not hard to do on this list!

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Just look what you did. You started a conspiracy theory. Congratulations

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 Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke

 Hence the =]



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Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine

2007-01-10 Thread Jason

NO! The aliens who abducted him are using their mind control implants
that they implanted using a blood transfusion.
{MDA} Spotta wrote:

Lol!

That's not hard to do on this list!

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Just look what you did. You started a conspiracy theory. Congratulations

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Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke

Hence the =]





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Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine

2007-01-10 Thread Da-Huntha

You guys gone quite off-topic, useless mailbox filling... (Much like
this message).

Jason wrote:

NO! The aliens who abducted him are using their mind control implants
that they implanted using a blood transfusion.
{MDA} Spotta wrote:

Lol!

That's not hard to do on this list!

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Just look what you did. You started a conspiracy theory. Congratulations

=]

On 1/10/07, {MDA} Spotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke

Hence the =]





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Re: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine

2007-01-10 Thread mjjordan
Sorry for starting all this guys. I just didn't think it was right to pat 
Alfred on the back for the quick response when his sole motivation was not to 
help the group. I would like to see Valve (Alfred or whoever) chime in more on 
some of these topics and they don't do it.

Once again, sorry to all...



 From: Da-Huntha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/01/10 Wed AM 05:56:19 CST
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 Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine

 You guys gone quite off-topic, useless mailbox filling... (Much like
 this message).

 Jason wrote:
  NO! The aliens who abducted him are using their mind control implants
  that they implanted using a blood transfusion.
  {MDA} Spotta wrote:
  Lol!
 
  That's not hard to do on this list!
 
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  Just look what you did. You started a conspiracy theory. Congratulations
 
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  On 1/10/07, {MDA} Spotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke
 
  Hence the =]
 
 
 
 
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Re: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine

2007-01-10 Thread Graham Robinson

But think of the time-scale

Someone recommends an idea:
Has to forward to management, have a few meetings, talk to
programmers, decide to implement and then report

Someone has a bug:
Has to confirm the bug, talk to the devs and find a date for a patch, report

Wants to speak to a sales person about licences:
Presses 'forward' and types [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you for having the time for any of this Alfred, I know a lot of
companies don't tend to listen anywhere, never mind reply.

Graham

On 10/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sorry for starting all this guys. I just didn't think it was right to pat 
Alfred on the back for the quick response when his sole motivation was not to 
help the group. I would like to see Valve (Alfred or whoever) chime in more on 
some of these topics and they don't do it.


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Re: [hlds] hl1mp server dead after last update

2007-01-10 Thread HSantal

I wouldn't be surprised if it did. HLSW had to do an update after one
of the last Steam updates
borked access to our CSS server. DoD doesn't work properly with the
new version so I use the previous version to monitor our DoD server.

On 1/10/07, Ook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Did the latest update break hlsw? I can no longer use it to connect to
server, but haven't had time to troubleshoot.






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Re: [hlds] hl1mp server dead after last update

2007-01-10 Thread Ook

Yeah, there is an update on the hlsw site, I guess the last steam update
broke something.

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From: Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:51 PM
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very good ooks!
I don't use hlsw so I dont know ...

I did notice that the updated steam serverbrowser now has HLDM:Source
servers in it though.



- Original Message -
From: Ook
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] hl1mp server dead after last update



I got it running. Turns out that my gcf images were out of date because of
recent gcf updates (doh). What I did was do a clean install as you (and
others) recommended. Did a fresh extract of half-life source and
half-life
deathmatch source gcf, copied to server. Now it works. Just copying
updated
files to existing server install didn't work, interesting enough, had to
do
a clean install.

I'm going to leave it running for a while, and take a closer look this
weekend.

Did the latest update break hlsw? I can no longer use it to connect to
server, but haven't had time to troubleshoot.


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From: Kevin Ottalini To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] hl1mp server dead after last update



Some of these steps may be redundant or put unnecessary files on the
server,
but it appears to work:

http://qsextreme.com/hl1mp/hldms_install.htm



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Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] hl1mp server dead after last update



Could you do a tree listing of server directories - so that it has file
sizes and date/times? My server is still dead, and I'm not sure what
i'm
missing. I might have missed just one dll somewhere, but it continues
to
elude me :P

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From: Kevin Ottalini To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] hl1mp server dead after last update



I located the cause of the ammo pickup problems, totally bizarre but
there
was a second skill file (hl1mp\cfg\skill1.cfg) that was somehow
causing
this.

I removed that file and the server is working ok now.

That file was identical to the regular skill.cfg file so I have no
idea
why
it would have caused the problem (or how it was being executed).



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Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] hl1mp server dead after last update



Suckage. Still broken. Leaving town in the morning, this might have
to
wait
until next weekend. If you find anymore info, please post it here. If
we
can
get a good install set together, we should post it somewhere so
others
can
download it.

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From: Kevin Ottalini To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] hl1mp server dead after last update



The bin files were moved to a new GCF base source engine 2 so you
have
to extract those as well.

The server will run, but for some reason players are unable to
pickup
ammo
and weapon selection is messed up ... some other things also appear
broken.

Dizzy appears to have a good working set of executables, I'm trying
to
find out what he did.



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Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 4:23 PM
Subject: [hlds] hl1mp server dead after last update



I'm missing something. In the past, you could take your source
hl1mp
install, run hldsupdatetool to update it, and re-copy the files
from
the
gcf
and the server would run. With the latest update from Valve, this
no
longer
works as they changed some of the dlls in the bin directory, and
you
can
no
longer use the gcf versions because if you do you will get a
Server
uses
different class tables. error. You can't use the old DLLs like you
used
to because if you do you get a class table error.

I'm missing something. This used to work, now I'm dead in the
water.
Other dedicated servers are running, what am I missing?




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Re: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine

2007-01-10 Thread Ook

They can't. There are very strict policies covering what is said by any
Valve employee here or in any public forum. One slip of the tongue, and
Valve gets sued and the employee gets fired. Alfred hates not being able to
talk here as much as we hate him not talking, but they would fire his arse
real fast if he says the wrong thing - or spends too much time here.

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Sorry for starting all this guys. I just didn't think it was right to pat
Alfred on the back for the quick response when his sole motivation was not
to help the group. I would like to see Valve (Alfred or whoever) chime in
more on some of these topics and they don't do it.

Once again, sorry to all...




From: Da-Huntha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/01/10 Wed AM 05:56:19 CST
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine

You guys gone quite off-topic, useless mailbox filling... (Much like
this message).

Jason wrote:
 NO! The aliens who abducted him are using their mind control implants
 that they implanted using a blood transfusion.
 {MDA} Spotta wrote:
 Lol!

 That's not hard to do on this list!

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL
 Sent: 10 January 2007 08:59
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine

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 Just look what you did. You started a conspiracy theory.
 Congratulations

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 Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke

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