RE: [hlds] Windows Equivalent of Dynamic ticks in Linux?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thats exactly how I mean it to be read. Without an FPS booster VNC takes between 4 and 8 percent, with an FPS booster we're looking at 20% which is enough to affect the servers running on the box. I'm aware other things may also be affected, but when one process is eating 20% of your CPU and the others are still around the 5% mark it's something to be aware of. I can't say what the load is when not connected via VNC because VNC is the only thing we use to admin the servers. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds] > Windows Equivalent of Dynamic ticks in Linux?> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 > 21:49:55 +1100> > --> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> Yes I > am aware that increasing the timer resolution does increase the over> all CPU > resources used, the way Gigabit Nick put it, was that VNC was more> adversely > affected by the increase in timer resolution, or at least that is> how I read > it.> > On 3/16/07, Steven Hartland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > Whisper > wrote:> > > --> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > > > Does that also occur if VNC is running on the box, but nobody is> > > > actually logged into VNC? Or does it only happen when somebody is> > > trying > to do stuff via VNC?> > > On 3/16/07, Gigabit Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:> > >>> > >> --> > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > > >> If anyone is using VNC to admin thier windows box you'll find that> > >> > altering the timer has a bad effect on CPU usage. The higher the> > >> timer > resolution, the higher CPU usage to the extent that it can> > >> gobble 20% > of a> > >> 3.0Ghz P4.So option 2 below is possible it would help all those> > > >> VNCers out there> >> > This has nothing to do with VNC its the pure fact > of raising the> > timer resolution that causes the CPU increase, its a well > known> > fact.> >> > Steve> >> >> > > > > This e.mail is private > and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and> > the person or entity to > whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection,> > the recipient is > prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise> > disseminating it or > any information contained in it.> >> > In the event of misdirection, > illegible or incomplete transmission please> > telephone +44 845 868 1337> > > or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > > ___> > To unsubscribe, edit your > list preferences, or view the list archives,> > please visit:> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> --> > > ___> To unsubscribe, edit your > list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows Equivalent of Dynamic ticks in Linux?
It's not perfect, but it still does limit your FPS. You just need to play with it a bit. On 3/15/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] You can't though, that is the point. 13:40:25 fps_max 13:40:25 "fps_max" = "600" ( def. "300" ) - Frame rate limiter 13:40:29 stats 13:40:29 CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 0.00 0.00 0.00 510 2 587.14 0 13:40:39 fps_max 400 13:40:43 stats 13:40:43 CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 0.00 0.00 0.00 511 2 256.34 0 See what I mean? On 3/16/07, James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At this point you could then use fps_max to further tweak the threshold. > > On 3/15/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Roman > > > > I don't want more than that, and you sort of answer your own question > any > > way. :) > > > > 1. I don't want to only have the options of 128 / 256 / 512 as my only > > options. I might want a bit more than 256 but not as much as 512, a 100% > > increase over the previous setting, yes? > > 2. It would be brilliant if we could do this so it was not system wide, > > especially if you wanted to run more than 1 game server type on the same > > physical server. > > > > Hope that makes sense > > > > Cheers > > > > On 3/16/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Changing Windows high resolution timer precision to 2ms, 4ms and 8ms > > > gives you 512, 256 and 128 FPS respectively. Do you really need more > > > than that? The only drawback is that this setting is system-wide... > > > > > > On 15/03/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > See the quoted post below: > > > > > > > > Is there a way to do this for Windows 2000 or 2003 that is not a > huge > > > drama? > > > > > > > > It would be fantastic to be able to run our Windows boxes at the > exact > > > FPS > > > > we want to run them at, rather than some arbitrary number forced > upon us > > > by > > > > the OS or hardware. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Whisper > > > > > > > > From: Valtteri Kiviniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Date: Mar 15, 2007 7:29 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Multiplayer Update Released - > server > > > FPS > > > > > problem > > > > > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > > > > > With 2.6.21 you can have 1000FPS with the High Resolution Timer > > > enabled > > > > > or the Dynamic Ticks. Dynamic ticks is cool because it basically > > > removes > > > > > HZ on your kernel, and timer interrupts happen only when they are > > > needed. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and i forgot to say that with high resolution timer you can > have > > > > > 1000FPS in HLDS with 100HZ kernel. Yes, 100HZ. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows Equivalent of Dynamic ticks in Linux?
Most of your posts make sense, pal :) I just shared the only painless way to control server FPS on Windows platform I'm aware of. Just in case you missed it before. And I'm afraid there is no way to get anything better than this without significant effort from Valve team. Regards, Roman On 16/03/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Roman I don't want more than that, and you sort of answer your own question any way. :) 1. I don't want to only have the options of 128 / 256 / 512 as my only options. I might want a bit more than 256 but not as much as 512, a 100% increase over the previous setting, yes? 2. It would be brilliant if we could do this so it was not system wide, especially if you wanted to run more than 1 game server type on the same physical server. Hope that makes sense Cheers On 3/16/07, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Changing Windows high resolution timer precision to 2ms, 4ms and 8ms > gives you 512, 256 and 128 FPS respectively. Do you really need more > than that? The only drawback is that this setting is system-wide... > > On 15/03/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > See the quoted post below: > > > > Is there a way to do this for Windows 2000 or 2003 that is not a huge > drama? > > > > It would be fantastic to be able to run our Windows boxes at the exact > FPS > > we want to run them at, rather than some arbitrary number forced upon us > by > > the OS or hardware. > > > > Cheers > > Whisper > > > > From: Valtteri Kiviniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Mar 15, 2007 7:29 PM > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Multiplayer Update Released - server > FPS > > > problem > > > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > With 2.6.21 you can have 1000FPS with the High Resolution Timer > enabled > > > or the Dynamic Ticks. Dynamic ticks is cool because it basically > removes > > > HZ on your kernel, and timer interrupts happen only when they are > needed. > > > > > > Oh, and i forgot to say that with high resolution timer you can have > > > 1000FPS in HLDS with 100HZ kernel. Yes, 100HZ. > > -- > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows Equivalent of Dynamic ticks in Linux?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Yes I am aware that increasing the timer resolution does increase the over all CPU resources used, the way Gigabit Nick put it, was that VNC was more adversely affected by the increase in timer resolution, or at least that is how I read it. On 3/16/07, Steven Hartland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whisper wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Does that also occur if VNC is running on the box, but nobody is > > actually logged into VNC? Or does it only happen when somebody is > > trying to do stuff via VNC? > > On 3/16/07, Gigabit Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> -- > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> If anyone is using VNC to admin thier windows box you'll find that > >> altering the timer has a bad effect on CPU usage. The higher the > >> timer resolution, the higher CPU usage to the extent that it can > >> gobble 20% of a > >> 3.0Ghz P4.So option 2 below is possible it would help all those > >> VNCers out there > > This has nothing to do with VNC its the pure fact of raising the > timer resolution that causes the CPU increase, its a well known > fact. > > Steve > > > > This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and > the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, > the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise > disseminating it or any information contained in it. > > In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please > telephone +44 845 868 1337 > or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows Equivalent of Dynamic ticks in Linux?
Whisper wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Does that also occur if VNC is running on the box, but nobody is actually logged into VNC? Or does it only happen when somebody is trying to do stuff via VNC? On 3/16/07, Gigabit Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If anyone is using VNC to admin thier windows box you'll find that altering the timer has a bad effect on CPU usage. The higher the timer resolution, the higher CPU usage to the extent that it can gobble 20% of a 3.0Ghz P4.So option 2 below is possible it would help all those VNCers out there This has nothing to do with VNC its the pure fact of raising the timer resolution that causes the CPU increase, its a well known fact. Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows Equivalent of Dynamic ticks in Linux?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Does that also occur if VNC is running on the box, but nobody is actually logged into VNC? Or does it only happen when somebody is trying to do stuff via VNC? Thanks On 3/16/07, Gigabit Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > If anyone is using VNC to admin thier windows box you'll find that > altering the timer has a bad effect on CPU usage. The higher the timer > resolution, the higher CPU usage to the extent that it can gobble 20% of a > 3.0Ghz P4.So option 2 below is possible it would help all those VNCers out > there > _ > News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! > http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
